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New Bionic owner.

Receiving my Bionic in a day or two.. Should I root the Bionic before I update or update then root? The reason I ask is many times the carriers patch the root methods that are used and after the update they no longer work.
I also noticed the bootloader is still locked down and is this going to be figured out?? Coming from all HTC devices I have noticed the Recovery that is used is a little different then on my Thunderbolt.
The Recovery that is used is in the Android Market and is called the Bionic Bootloader?
I will be doing lot's of reading but my main concern was the new update that has just been pushed out, should I download it before I root??
Thanks,
Vinny
Go Patriots

I am also interested in this exact same question about what to do first. I just bought my wife a bionic and she came from a rooted Fascinate. She keeps asking me why she can't do certain things on her bionic and I have to keep telling her I'll fix it soon lol. Problem is I'm not sure if I should wait for the official update.
I'm definitely going to root because it will be her wifi at home while I'm at work.
Sent from my SHIFTAO5P

Our update process veers of the course of the official update path. We have a method of retaining root known as Forever Root by P3Droid (I believe?). In addition, our bootloader is still locked, but we are petitioning. Hoping for an Atrix type unlock. As for recovery, since we don't have unlocked bootloader, we can't write recovery. The one you see in the market is a paid donation. There is also a free one. This allows you to flash ROM's.
We also have Safestrap for CM7 and ICS, but they are still very early works.
Sent from my DROID BIONIC

I see there is a new official update rolling out and my phone will be delivered tomorrow. Should I root it right away and then download the update through recovery? Coming from a long line of HTC devices I can say that Motorola is all new to me. If I accept the new update I may not be able to root it thru the current methods. Carriers are great at plugging holes. If anyone can point me in the right direction I would appreciate it. Every article I read about the Droid Bionic there are so many different methods I am not familiar with.
Thanks,
Vinny
I was going to buy the razr but I like the idea of a battery I can get at. Both phones have just about the same specs and accessories. The Locked down bootloader really sucks.

I've been researching this question all day at work, shhh lol, and I'm pretty confident I know what to do now.
Those of us who are not rooted and have not accepted the new update will need to root first using the forever root method developed by the droidtheory crew. Then after we are rooted we can update to the newest ota and still maintain root. We will also be able to flash whatever rom we would like.
This is what I am going to do to my wife's bionic so hopefully I don't screw up! Someone correct me if I am wrong.
Sent from my SHIFTAO5P

Well I got it rooted fine, but I can't get the update to show up. I've rebooted 3 times so far and nothing. I'm currently making a nandroid backup of the complete stock rom. I'm hoping the update just hasn't rolled out yet to the South Dakota area.
Sent from my SHIFTAO5P

I was finally able to get the update. I rebooted into cwm and cleared data/factory reset. Rebooted and the update showed up. The update went smoothly and I was able to keep root. Flashed droidtheory's kinectix rom and everything is perfect now.
Word of caution: Do not format system in cwm and then try to use the reboot recovery option. It will soft brick your phone! Luckily it was very easy to fix, but it still scared the bejesus outta me!
Sent from my SHIFTAO5P

I would follow the steps you stated. follow this link and it works just fine. Be completely stock and should have no issues. Make sure to download the Blur to your SD card.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1327537

OTA ICS update

So out of sheer curiosity, I just got the text about the OTA update from ATT what happens if I did this. I currently have my phone rooted and ics that pirate dropped a while back.
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You mess up your phone. Return to stock GB, it is in the dev. Section. You also will have to relock bootloader. I bet you know this already but just want to keep you from messing up your phone.
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using XDA

You'll need to relock your bootloader if you want to run the update.

Yeah, I got it too. Probably just the OFFICIAL ics roll out that made it our way.. I doubt there's much difference.. oh, and we'd lose our roots. I'm not going to update it.

Yeah I kind of already knew that was the case but wanted some other opinions... Any one use the RUU that ghost put out have any problems... Sometimes my audio gets buggy, like doesn't play sound then reset phone and all good... Doubt the two are connected but just curious
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I also just received the text from AT&T informing me of the important update.
My boot loader is re-locked, phone is un-rooted and I used the latest ICS RUU to update the phone.
My question is now or later (assuming I stay locked and on the current ROM) if I happen to select the check for updates option on the phone will I screw anything up?
Does this OTA method give you the option to save the downloaded file but not do the upgrade?

samsat said:
I laos just received the text from AT&T informing me of the important update.
My boot loader is re-locked, phone is un-rooted and I used the latest ICS RUU to update the phone.
My question is now or later (assuming I stay locked and on the current ROM) if I happen to select the check for updates option on the phone will I screw anything up?
Does this OTA method give you the option to save the downloaded file but not do the upgrade?
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Yes, it will download and let you save for later. You won't screw anything up. However, since you are already on the latest ics you don't need the update.

megatronisabeast said:
Yes, it will download and let you save for later. You won't screw anything up. However, since you are already on the latest ics you don't need the update.
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Thanks.
I agree that I dont need it but AT&T will probably have my phone flagged as not having received the update. I wanted to make sure that say in 6 months time while playing with the phone I forget and try the update option that I dont screw anything up.
I imagine though that before then I will re-lock, root and download one of the custom ROM's in which case I need to make sure that I dont accidentally choose the OTA update!!

got it today too but i am using wildchilds rom went ahead and went to software update clicked check for update and it said software up to date

samsat said:
Thanks.
I agree that I dont need it but AT&T will probably have my phone flagged as not having received the update. I wanted to make sure that say in 6 months time while playing with the phone I forget and try the update option that I dont screw anything up.
I imagine though that before then I will re-lock, root and download one of the custom ROM's in which case I need to make sure that I dont accidentally choose the OTA update!!
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My favorite custom ROM is Wild Childs. If you don't know about it, let me know and I can tell you about it.
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using XDA

megatronisabeast said:
My favorite custom ROM is Wild Childs. If you don't know about it, let me know and I can tell you about it.
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using XDA
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I know it exists but would be interested for you to tell me about it.

samsat said:
I know it exists but would be interested for you to tell me about it.
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http://www.wcxxperia-nce.com/index.php
Go to that website. To see the vivid forums you will have to register. After you register you will be able to see the different roms he has which includes generic, if you want to tether. I am on the att version, just like stock without the bloat. Also it comes with his wcx recovery. It is already rooted as well so no worries there. He also has videos that show every step in installing his recovery plus rom. It is also "over clocked" at 1.5 instead of the 1.2 the factory sends out.
Hope this helps out!

megatronisabeast said:
http://www.wcxxperia-nce.com/index.php
Go to that website. To see the vivid forums you will have to register. After you register you will be able to see the different roms he has which includes generic, if you want to tether. I am on the att version, just like stock without the bloat. Also it comes with his wcx recovery. It is already rooted as well so no worries there. He also has videos that show every step in installing his recovery plus rom. It is also "over clocked" at 1.5 instead of the 1.2 the factory sends out.
Hope this helps out!
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What's the battery life like with the overclocking?

samsat said:
What's the battery life like with the overclocking?
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It's really not truly over clocked, it is the natural clocking for the phone. My battery life has improved by about an hour since I went to this rom. I was on stock ics before switching to this. I usually use it 12-14 hours a day with at least 30 left at the end of the day. I listen to an hour of pandora, spend at least a couple of hours on xda, usa today, and sync 3 emails accounts. The biggest battery waster for me and I would get a few more hours if not for it is the screen brightness. If I would turn off auto brightness and dim it, I would have a couple of days worth of battery life.

[Q] VZW XT1060 safestrap/unlocked bootloader?

Alright so I was able to gain root and am running stock 4.4. I was under the impression that I should be able to run safestrap recovery, although some places tell me it doesn't work on 4.4 but some do. Which is it? My bootloader is locked thanks to Big Red...
Also, is the bootloader still working on being unlocked for the VZW non-dev phone? Or has that been given up on?
Thanks for the help to a new guy in the community coming from the GS4.

bravesfan171 said:
Alright so I was able to gain root and am running stock 4.4. I was under the impression that I should be able to run safestrap recovery, although some places tell me it doesn't work on 4.4 but some do. Which is it? My bootloader is locked thanks to Big Red...
Also, is the bootloader still working on being unlocked for the VZW non-dev phone? Or has that been given up on?
Thanks for the help to a new guy in the community coming from the GS4.
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well this is a tricky question, according to the safestrap thread on rootwiki it is not 4.4 friendly but there are some people who say they have it installed on 4.4 and it works fine. so really all you can do is try installing it and see what happens.
as for bootloader unlock i am not sure but i would not get your hopes up.

dray_jr said:
well this is a tricky question, according to the safestrap thread on rootwiki it is not 4.4 friendly but there are some people who say they have it installed on 4.4 and it works fine. so really all you can do is try installing it and see what happens.
as for bootloader unlock i am not sure but i would not get your hopes up.
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I might will give it a try. Any risk in that?

bravesfan171 said:
I might will give it a try. Any risk in that?
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no u can just remove it via the app if you have issues worse case you have to flash the recovery.img in the stock firmware package

Did safestrap work ok for you?
Sent from my XT1060 using xda app-developers app

Yeah, I actually just installed it and was surprised to see it worked. I am running 4.4 and not 4.4.2 but I'm just glad I can make backups now to mess with some stuff in my stock rom. Anyone have any recommendations for safestrap roms?

Eclipse works perfectly. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521509. There's also a stock rooted ROM over at the Rootzwiki forums (under CDMA Moto X development). Don't know of any others.
Sent from my Moto X

bravesfan171 said:
Yeah, I actually just installed it and was surprised to see it worked. I am running 4.4 and not 4.4.2 but I'm just glad I can make backups now to mess with some stuff in my stock rom. Anyone have any recommendations for safestrap roms?
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Please post results. A while back I also saw that thread that says it is not 4.4 friendly, but after some were reporting it working I went ahead and installed it. I am on Verizon as well and it seems to have went fine. Boots into safestrap recovery and I made a backup - it all seemed to work. However, in that time, I haven't flashed any roms in any of the rom slots. So if you are going to can you please report back so we know that there were no errors involved with that?

I've been using it while on Kit Kat for a couple months now (including backups and restores). No problems. I only use the stock slot, not ROM slots.
Sent from my Nexus 7

mercado79 said:
I've been using it while on Kit Kat for a couple months now (including backups and restores). No problems. I only use the stock slot, not ROM slots.
Sent from my Nexus 7
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This is good to hear. My last phone had unlocked bootloader so I didn't have to deal with safestrap before. You're Verizon also? And you've just been backing up, wiping stock slot and installing there?

somerandomname1 said:
This is good to hear. My last phone had unlocked bootloader so I didn't have to deal with safestrap before. You're Verizon also? And you've just been backing up, wiping stock slot and installing there?
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Yes. Exactly.
Sent from my Moto X

Safestrap doesnt seem to be working for me. After i install it and open the app. It just sits on a blank screen forever. And if I try to press the menu button in the corner it says that app is not responding. Does anybody know whats going on?

bravesfan171 said:
Also, is the bootloader still working on being unlocked for the VZW non-dev phone? Or has that been given up on?
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Give that dream up, it's never gonna happen.

Upgrading to CM12.1

If I upgrade to CM12.1 and, for some reason, don't like it, can I revert back to 4.4.2, or will I need to revert back to 5.0?
Thanks!

slicetwo said:
If I upgrade to CM12.1 and, for some reason, don't like it, can I revert back to 4.4.2, or will I need to revert back to 5.0?
Thanks!
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With locked bootloader u not going be able to put cm on your phone. But if u do get cm loaded let us all know. Cause that mean we have custom recovery.

XRange said:
With locked bootloader u not going be able to put cm on your phone. But if u do get cm loaded let us all know. Cause that mean we have custom recovery.
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Gotcha. After a bit more research, I saw that on some other posts and then forgot I had posted this question. I was originally under the impression that we could flash CM12 and other ROMs via Flashfire or SafeStrap. I just got the GS5 today (haven't even seen it yet, it's in my mailbox at home right now), so I'm trying to get up to speed on it all as I'm coming from a GS3.
But does this mean that we can't install ANY custom ROMs on the device at this point? Cause now I'm confused by the other ROMs I see posted about in the development forum.

You can as long as they are based on touchwiz. Since you say its new you are most likely stuck though as it will come with lollipop so you cant downgrade which means no root.
Sent from my twi5ted SM-G900A using Tapatalk

The one I got today has 4.4.2 on it, but the phone itself was kind of physically jacked up so I need to replace it. Hopefully my replacement will be on 4.4.2.

[Q&A] [DOG1-N910T/T3] TEKXvirgin N4 URv0 > 8/11 STOCK ODEX ROM/ LOLLIPOP 5.1.1 > TEK

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TEKHD! Thank you!
TEKHD ! Thank you so much! Finally I feel like my Note 4 is as smooth as the iphone UI now. 5.1 completely changed the feeling like an ealier poster mentioned earlier. I can't wait to see how smooth this runs with some tweaks / debloat.
For the Record : This is the FIRST rom to date I've ran on my note 4 on lollipop that actually goes to the task switcher after hitting the button, not 2 seconds later.
Running great so far on my n910t.
1) Backed up
2) flashed COG2 using Odin to update baseband
3) phone apps were crashing on reboot, went back to recovery, wiped per instructions in first post and then restored the second posted file.
4) Reboot to a brand new feeling Note 4
TEK HD Thanks again !

Has anyone on an N910T gone from this 5.1.1 ROM back to COG2? I Odined back but got a flurry of force closes that made it impossible to use the phone. NFC was one of the things constantly force closing... maybe because something to do with the phone thinking it became an N910T3?
Anyway, I did not wipe data after Odining because I usually don't have issues. Anyone know how to go back to COG2? I backed up my data and will try again with data wiped...
BTW, this ROM is very nice, fast and fluid, and indeed recent apps is much quicker. But I just want VoLTE and WiFi calling to work. Thanks in advance!
Edit: i see the note about wiping data when UPDATING to COG2, from COD6 or whatever, but when i did that before, i had no force close issues at all. so i was surprised that i had it when reverting from DOG1. anyway, i guess i may have to wipe if i wanna revert.... will try

does it support vietnamese language?

re: vietnamese language
dangkhoavt said:
does it support vietnamese language?
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Sorry to say but it don't support the vietnamese language
unless you find it somewhere, download it and install it.
Good luck,
Have a great day!

Anyone know if there any other kernels that might fire this rom up?
Sent from my SM-N910T3 using Tapatalk

Does anyone have a sound mod for the T3?
Sent from my SM-N910T3 using Tapatalk 2

Q?
I am wondering if n910t mod will wor on n910t3? (Flashable Mods designed for the n910t)

Any fix for the GPS and Data slow down problems?
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I just bought a second hand N910T that is still carrier locked. Should I get it unlocked before rooting/ flashing this rom or will rooting/ flashing this rom also unlock?

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itsmillertime said:
I just bought a second hand N910T that is still carrier locked. Should I get it unlocked before rooting/ flashing this rom or will rooting/ flashing this rom also unlock?
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Rooting roms, flashing roms or firmwares have nothing to do with unlocking the phone.
Whether the phone is locked or unlocked either way you can flash roms, firmwares or
anything else and it has no effect on the locked or unlocked status of your phone.
p.s. rooting or flashing roms will not unlock or lock your phone.
Good luck,
Have a great day!

Misterjunky said:
Rooting roms, flashing roms or firmwares have nothing to do with unlocking the phone.
Whether the phone is locked or unlocked either way you can flash roms, firmwares or
anything else and it has no effect on the locked or unlocked status of your phone.
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That's true, but to be fair, there are two kinds of "locked".
Bootloaders can be locked or unlocked, usually depending on the carrier or manufacturer. The locked bootloader on AT&T's SM-910A is why only temporary root is available (and why I'm running a SM-910T on AT&T's network). T-Mobile Note4s have unlocked bootloaders, allowing different kernels, ROMs, and rooting. As far as I know, the only way to change the bootloader locked state is if the carrier or manufacturer allows it. I had an ASUS Transformer 2 that originally had a locked bootloader. After some complaining from XDA members and others, ASUS released a patch that unlocked the bootloader and I think voided the warranty. Anyway, unlocked bootloader doesn't mean you can swap in a foreign or prepaid SIM and have it work. That comes with the other kind of locking.
The carrier/SIM locking is completely separate from bootloaders. You can be stock, unrooted, etc and still have your phone unlocked to accept non-carrier SIMs. I purchased a carrier/SIM unlocked 910T to use on AT&T's network, but I could also take it to Europe and use a prepaid SIM. The carriers will unlock for free as long as the phone is fully paid for. Other online services don't care if the phone is paid for yet, but charge $30 or so I think. Never used them, so I can't comment specifically. I have ALWAYS unlocked by phones before selling them on Swappa because it tends to increase the value a bit.

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mletchworth said:
That's true, but to be fair, there are two kinds of "locked".
Bootloaders can be locked or unlocked, usually depending on the carrier or manufacturer. The locked bootloader on AT&T's SM-910A is why only temporary root is available (and why I'm running a SM-910T on AT&T's network). T-Mobile Note4s have unlocked bootloaders, allowing different kernels, ROMs, and rooting. As far as I know, the only way to change the bootloader locked state is if the carrier or manufacturer allows it. I had an ASUS Transformer 2 that originally had a locked bootloader. After some complaining from XDA members and others, ASUS released a patch that unlocked the bootloader and I think voided the warranty. Anyway, unlocked bootloader doesn't mean you can swap in a foreign or prepaid SIM and have it work. That comes with the other kind of locking.
The carrier/SIM locking is completely separate from bootloaders. You can be stock, unrooted, etc and still have your phone unlocked to accept non-carrier SIMs. I purchased a carrier/SIM unlocked 910T to use on AT&T's network, but I could also take it to Europe and use a prepaid SIM. The carriers will unlock for free as long as the phone is fully paid for. Other online services don't care if the phone is paid for yet, but charge $30 or so I think. Never used them, so I can't comment specifically. I have ALWAYS unlocked by phones before selling them on Swappa because it tends to increase the value a bit.
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There are a lot more than just two type of locks in our phones.
However your original post only mentioned carrier sim unlocking so my
reply had nothing in it about any other kind of locking or unlocking.
What else can I say? I can't read people's minds. LOL
Good luck,
Have a great day!

Misterjunky said:
There are a lot more than just two type of locks in our phones.
However your original post only mentioned carrier sim unlocking so my
reply had nothing in it about any other kind of locking or unlocking.
What else can I say? I can't read people's minds. LOL
Good luck,
Have a great day!
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Yep, you're right. Sorry to take the thread off-topic. Just trying to help out and explain what I understand the differences to be so u/itsmillertime can get his issues resolved.

YrrchSebor said:
Has anyone on an N910T gone from this 5.1.1 ROM back to COG2? I Odined back but got a flurry of force closes that made it impossible to use the phone. NFC was one of the things constantly force closing... maybe because something to do with the phone thinking it became an N910T3?
Anyway, I did not wipe data after Odining because I usually don't have issues. Anyone know how to go back to COG2? I backed up my data and will try again with data wiped...
BTW, this ROM is very nice, fast and fluid, and indeed recent apps is much quicker. But I just want VoLTE and WiFi calling to work. Thanks in advance!
Edit: i see the note about wiping data when UPDATING to COG2, from COD6 or whatever, but when i did that before, i had no force close issues at all. so i was surprised that i had it when reverting from DOG1. anyway, i guess i may have to wipe if i wanna revert.... will try
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So were you successful? I see no reply to your question or followup from you.
On a similar note: I'm wondering if I have a TWRP backup of a 4.4.4 ROM, and a TWRP backup of this one, if I can just switch back and forth with a restore or whichever one.

Yeah the reason I bought the tmobile version was for the unlocked bootloader. I just didn't know if there was a way to unlock it via Odin or anything. I ended up getting it unlocked by imeifix.com. $15 and 15 minutes later, highly satisfied with their service.

Files corrupted?
i tried downloading both files and both were corrupted when i used Winrar to unzip, also downloaded 7zip and nothing. What could be wrong?

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So were you successful? I see no reply to your question or followup from you.
On a similar note: I'm wondering if I have a TWRP backup of a 4.4.4 ROM, and a TWRP backup of this one, if I can just switch back and forth with a restore or whichever one.
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hi sorry i forgot to update, but the data wipe did work. as for your nandroids, it's possible you may run into the same issue with the data, and also i think those two ROMs need different bootloaders and basebands, so you would have to change those as well when going back and forth.

I'm confused with this new 910T/910T3 nandroid backups. So we run these and it turns the software of our 910T into 910T3? And the DOG1 firmware? What's the advantage of this over running the tekxodus v3.3 with 5.1.1 and COG2? This new 3.3 is just so awesome