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[Q] Galaxy Tab P1010 Dedicated Development?

Hey everyone!
Just curious about something: I recently purchased a tab P1010L, and to my surprise, it's basically just a big phone. I'm fine with that, you know? But I was expecting to get some Gingerbread love for Google Talk and you know, MAYBE USE THE FRICKIN' FFC that comes with it, since Qik, Tango and Fring all work like crap if at all.
So really, I'm wondering how come there's nothing on the P1010 anywhere on the web? Like no active development, no custom ROMs, no dedicated forums... just... nothing. Or maybe I just haven't found such a place yet? If so, please do tell.
WHY is the Wi-Fi Only Tab such an outcast for devs? It's a cheaper device with no contracts attached to it, so why don't devs work on it?

because its only WIFI , almost ppl have GSM tab And VRN thats all
with wifi why you should even bother yourself to custom rom for it , if its only got 1 mission to go with ( WIFI only ) serfing the internet thats all
you shouldn't buy the wifi only

k0sh said:
because its only WIFI , almost ppl have GSM tab And VRN thats all
with wifi why you should even bother yourself to custom rom for it , if its only got 1 mission to go with ( WIFI only ) serfing the internet thats all
you shouldn't buy the wifi only
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That's dumb. I carry a phone with me that is perfectly capable of tethering to my Tablet and that way I can have the best of both worlds. Your argument is absolutely silly.
Why would you pay for *two* contracts, phone and tablet, instead of just one?
Also, saying that Wi-Fi is only for browsing the internet is plain silly. What about video chat? Games? production apps? I'm sorry, but I rather keep the *phone* part on, you know, my actualy phone.
Is there anyone else willing to shed light into this, but this time with some semblance of logic?

Foodie_Monster said:
That's dumb. I carry a phone with me that is perfectly capable of tethering to my Tablet and that way I can have the best of both worlds. Your argument is absolutely silly.
Why would you pay for *two* contracts, phone and tablet, instead of just one?
Also, saying that Wi-Fi is only for browsing the internet is plain silly. What about video chat? Games? production apps? I'm sorry, but I rather keep the *phone* part on, you know, my actualy phone.
Is there anyone else willing to shed light into this, but this time with some semblance of logic?
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woh !! why you take it so deeply ?
i just give my opinion about the WIFI only tab , Surfing the internet its also mean you can chat , do whatever by using the internet
i'm using my tab as a phone and tablet , but if you asked anyone what brand of tab you'll buy sure will go for the GSM tabs because it have alot of options and roms to flash
anyways i'm sorry i didn't mean to be an A***hole about your tab feelings

k0sh said:
woh !! why you take it so deeply ?
i just give my opinion about the WIFI only tab , Surfing the internet its also mean you can chat , do whatever by using the internet
i'm using my tab as a phone and tablet , but if you asked anyone what brand of tab you'll buy sure will go for the GSM tabs because it have alot of options and roms to flash
anyways i'm sorry i didn't mean to be an A***hole about your tab feelings
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You didn't hurt my feelings, but you came off a bit thick-headed. Most people don't normally use their tab as a phone, considering you cannot carry it in a pocket or a suit. Sure, non-working people may carry rucksacks with them at all times and use silly Bluetooth headsets, but normal folk? Nope.
Sure, I can understand having more options, but there's *plenty* of tabs out there that don't have GSM modules yet they have development. I didn't figure a Galaxy Tab, which is arguably one of the most popular tabs out there, would not have any development at all for one of its branches.

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You didn't hurt my feelings, but you came off a bit thick-headed. Most people don't normally use their tab as a phone, considering you cannot carry it in a pocket or a suit. Sure, non-working people may carry rucksacks with them at all times and use silly Bluetooth headsets, but normal folk? Nope.
Sure, I can understand having more options, but there's *plenty* of tabs out there that don't have GSM modules yet they have development. I didn't figure a Galaxy Tab, which is arguably one of the most popular tabs out there, would not have any development at all for one of its branches.
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the tab can fit in my back pocket and yeah maybe its wiredo that carrying headset bluetooth all the time , that is why i'm not using them anymore
even though if you are business man , or anything , you should wear formula to your work (jacket) so its very possible that the tab fit inside the jacket pocket right and it will look more *SEXY* with bluetooth headset
because almost the business man wearing it
but you right there is not dev for the wifi tab and that's so wired

Same concern here. I was surprised by the lack of interest
with community development for the P1010. So now, I'm
starting to wonder whether could I shell out few more grand
to have my P1010 replaced with P1000. Just not sure if I
can do that, otherwise I'm stuck with P1010 so might as well
maximize what I can with it...
I'm still hoping and looking forward to community support
in the coming months though. Let's hope the awesome
developers at XDA finds interest with it.

in the same place with you all brother. my biggest problem is video with skype. I know there's a hacked one already (link) but there are issues with rotation that are still awaiting resolution. i heard that skype video calling works just fine in p1000 running on gingerbread and hence the frustration of upgrading to gingerbread.

another frustrated P1010 user
i got a cheap offer for this tablet and since the name wasn't that far from its older brother (Galaxy Tab P1000> Galaxy Tab P1010), i assume the news on Gingerbread also meant for the P1010 and not just P1000. now i'm stuck on Froyo.. anyone heard any rumours on Gingerbread coming to P1010? i just want to have skype FFC video chat

You should know that there are many countries in which you could get the p1000 WITHOUT contract. Price was 350 vs 300 euro at the time I bought mine.
The p1000 has better a cpu core, sgx core and better bluetooth, thats why I chose it over the p1000, even if I didnt plan to use a sim card back then.
This might be a reason for p1000 vs p1010 sales at least here in europe...
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[Q] is 1280x800 resolution a major concern to potential customers?

hey guys, i need your feedback.
galaxy note display is 1280x800 pixel right? as i understand it, that is the same resolution that is used in most android honeycomb tablets.
i would like to know if apps made for honeycomb tablets are compatible with galaxy note or not? because my main concern is the unique resolution for a smartphone that might not motivate devs to make apps compatible with it.
tell me your opinion or experience, guys. i am considering to buy this phone, so your review, opinion and experience are of utmost important to me.

stfudude said:
hey guys, i need your feedback.
galaxy note display is 1280x800 pixel right? as i understand it, that is the same resolution that is used in most android honeycomb tablets.
i would like to know if apps made for honeycomb tablets are compatible with galaxy note or not? because my main concern is the unique resolution for a smartphone that might not motivate devs to make apps compatible with it.
tell me your opinion or experience, guys. i am considering to buy this phone, so your review, opinion and experience are of utmost important to me.
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like i heard, it is compatible, because tablet uses honeycomb firmware and note gingerbread atm. But ics (android 4) update will allow us to use tablet and smartphones applications without any incompatible problems ;D

EdgaBimbam said:
like i heard, it is compatible, because tablet uses honeycomb firmware and note gingerbread atm. But ics (android 4) update will allow us to use tablet and smartphones applications without any incompatible problems ;D
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i see..
so users have to play the waiting game after buying this phone?

Welcome to Android?

the "waiting game" will last 2 months at most, that's if you wait for the official update...
you can flash the 4.0.3 leak that just becae available and enjoy right away

I don't have any problems with apps.And ICS is on the way...
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zviki said:
I don't have any problems with apps.And ICS is on the way...
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you mean every app you want to install is compatible? even gameloft games? how many apps have you got installed on your note?

Games may be the biggest issue due to screen resolution. I don't use the phone for this but of the one mind game I have, the app itself is smaller than the actual screen so I have not used it since.
For general apps that follow the UI design principles to use device independant resolution they work fine. I am developing an application just now and it runs on QVGA upwards. On the Note I get a lot more shown on the screen but it is still perfectly usable on the QVGA phones too.
Cheers,
Dave...

I've had a couple of apps that don't display properly. With one major exception (robot unicorn attack) these have all been crappy little gimmicky apps. I'm sure the problem exists for other paid and 'high quality' apps, but I haven't seen it yet.
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Thanks Dave and newg.
And now I'm having doubt about buying this phone.

stfudude said:
Thanks Dave and newg.
And now I'm having doubt about buying this phone.
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My advice, go for galaxy nexus. Buy it online. Ull get the best of everything.. And S II is a good option.
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stfudude said:
Thanks Dave and newg.
And now I'm having doubt about buying this phone.
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Then don't buy it!
Note that you could well have exactly the same sort of issues for any phone with a screen resolution beyond 800x480 (e.g. HTC Sensation, Galaxy Nexus etc).
Developers *should* be trying to make their applications resolution independent where possible, but this isn't always the case. However, I've had no serious compatibility issues with my Note thus far.
If you want surefire compatibility, get a Galaxy S II because that is probably compatible with the majority of applications.
Regards,
Dave

harshdoshi25 said:
My advice, go for galaxy nexus. Buy it online. Ull get the best of everything.. And S II is a good option.
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Don't wanna buy galaxy nexus because of its mediocre specs. I'm a specs crazy guy, I can't accept the fact that galaxy nexus uses the same gpu like sgs, and low MP count camera.
SGS 2 is the same like note, only with smaller screen.
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foxmeister said:
Then don't buy it!
Note that you could well have exactly the same sort of issues for any phone with a screen resolution beyond 800x480 (e.g. HTC Sensation, Galaxy Nexus etc).
Developers *should* be trying to make their applications resolution independent where possible, but this isn't always the case. However, I've had no serious compatibility issues with my Note thus far.
If you want surefire compatibility, get a Galaxy S II because that is probably compatible with the majority of applications.
Regards,
Dave
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Yeah man, I sure hope devs will appreciate the beauty of galaxy note... :-(
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Is it possible to get Note 10.1 features?

So, for those of you who haven't seen the "Introducing Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1" video Samsung recently posted to YouTube, then you should probably check it out here before reading onwards into this post. There are two features highlighted greatly within the video which really interest me, but unfortunately there is no reason frankly nor monetary backing for me to get a tablet (hence why I purchased an all-in-one device such as the Note), and these are the Learners' Hub and the split-screen multitasking shown. Can I download this hub and get it working on my Note and is there any way to split the screen to view multiple apps on my Note's screen at the same time?

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UPDATE: Found "Learning Hub" by Samsung on Samsung Apps. It hasn't got a great selection, but could prove useful for studying history (which I am doing) for example. Just want to split the screen for multitasking so that I can copy information from a web-page to S-Note easy and stuff like that. I saw a calculation somewhere that the Note's screen split in half landscape would give you two 3.6 inch screens, which is the same size as the iPhone's screen.

Does it only work on stock ICS?

ultra99 said:
Does it only work on stock ICS?
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You need the Samsung Apps store to download it, so probably. It is quite useful for a bit of learning - there are even a fair few free books.

Brad387 said:
So, for those of you who haven't seen the "Introducing Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1" video Samsung recently posted to YouTube, then you should probably check it out here before reading onwards into this post. There are two features highlighted greatly within the video which really interest me, but unfortunately there is no reason frankly nor monetary backing for me to get a tablet (hence why I purchased an all-in-one device such as the Note), and these are the Learners' Hub and the split-screen multitasking shown. Can I download this hub and get it working on my Note and is there any way to split the screen to view multiple apps on my Note's screen at the same time?
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I anticipate that if the demand is high enough, it's only a matter of time before a dev implements a port of these features to the galaxy note.

(Request) Samsung galaxy note multi-window feature port

Any chance some enterprising dev could get this running on our nexus 7's
http://phandroid.com/2012/10/05/sam...te-brings-awesome-multi-window-feature-video/http://phandroid.com/2012/10/05/sam...te-brings-awesome-multi-window-feature-video/
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That would be cool if they could, but I'm guessing this is deeply integrated into Touch wiz.
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Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
Umm .. *cough* *cough* Cornerstone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX8w3UZIjkc
It's open source. Roman made an ICS/AOKP/Cornerstone build a long time ago ... felt it was too buggy to continue.
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AOKP got this request recently.
Seems a Cornerstone build would be the only way out...which is unlikely.

I'm fully aware this would probably be quite difficult to port, and likely quite time consuming.
Having said that, I also want this. It makes so much more sense on a 7 inch tablet then a 5 inch whatever.

This works with a handful of Google Apps, no other apps. I don't see the point.

khaytsus said:
This works with a handful of Google Apps, no other apps. I don't see the point.
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Running 2 apps at the same time. Seems like a great idea to me. It supports a limited amount of apps, but unlike Galaxy Note 10.1, you could probably hack in other apps to work.

khaytsus said:
This works with a handful of Google Apps, no other apps. I don't see the point.
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Yes, but the Galaxy Note 2 supports all apps in multi-window mode...

This would be *nice* to have but I don't know how much easier it would be then to just multitasking between 2 apps now and having the apps full screen. I can see some of the benefits like watching a youtube video while chatting on Google Talk. There are some good alternatives such as popup video players and notepads that overlay on top of current app and typically are resizable and movable.
While it makes sense this would be better on a 7" then a 5"... it really would be best on a 10". 7" barely gives me enough breathing room for 1 app. Plus most of the "compatible apps" are simple things like a calculator and notes

Well it seems VERY useful to me.
It's better than popup apps in my opinion - more app options.

Overscreen browser is a great alternative for now
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No, it's not.
This allows multiple apps to run side by side, Overskreen is just the browser. Also, it's not even compatible with Jelly Bean, so no one who owns a Nexus 7 can use it.

RickROM said:
Yes, but the Galaxy Note 2 supports all apps in multi-window mode...
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No, as I said, handful of specific Google apps. Read up on it. Will the list grow? Maybe? I'd have to guess it is a sdk used to support the function, is it worth app dev time to do it and possibly maintain multiple versions of their app?

more then google apps
Not just google apps can do this on the samsung note 10.1 .
samsng snote and lecture app
browser
vidoe player
picture gallery
polaris office
Photo shop (special note version)
I think there a few others that are on the samsung web app store. Samsung sbe adding apps to this.
Now for the bubble burst. The reason they work on the galaxy note is the new QUAD Core cpu and 2 GB Very fast ram .. samsung tried to release a less ram/power version of the 10.1 note with a higer res display. they backed the display down and increased the cpu//ram. this is also to support the WACOM S PEN..
I have been reading alot about the device because mine will be here Monday. So the above if from my reading and research. I can update you more mid next week.. I do not see a need for split windows on a 7 inch screen .. get the overscreen browser and try it.. JUST Does not work for productive work...
Hope this help make it more understandable... too bad samsung did not make the n7 . i give up because of the screen issues sent two of them back and will NOT order a 3rd...

Dude. Overskreen DOES NOT work on Jelly Bean. And it is just one app, vs an entire suite of Google Apps.
Also there's no need for window management.
Nexus 7 has a quad-core processor too, just less RAM - which isn't even a problem, it still can handle side by side apps.
And you're telling some weird stuff here. We are talking about Galaxy Note 2, which allows more apps, and works better. AND it works on a 5 inch screen, so it'll be awesome on a seven inch.
So yeah, please don't come back with your 'research' to tell us that you think that this feature is unnecessary.

i hope sincerely as a dev can make a mod for port this feature in future beacause it's very usefull even if work only with google apps it's better ,
anyone know if a moded youtube apps existing for play a video on background because i search since 3 month but not find ?
thx

I don't think there is one, sadly. Android doesn't support true multitasking

While i would love to have or port this it simply isnt possible, it requires a lot of changing to the frameworks and it would be hard to decompile all of samsungs sources and extract it.

SilverHedgehog said:
I don't think there is one, sadly. Android doesn't support true multitasking
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Stock android not, but there are a few roms with cornerstone, i think mainly on 10 inch tablets.

Web os did this kinda on a dual core wish android would absorb that multitasking feature right now running multiple apps kinda is a hit and miss
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New Chromecast keys really unrootable forever?

I just got my brand new Chromecast, but I would like to know why are they so hard to be rooted?
I mean is the kernel encrypted, written in an unknown programmable language, <putanotherreasonhere>?
Any hopes for the future or?

Not sure on any of any answer to those ??. I am sure some are working to see if there is, but the demand is also not that high either from what I can see. Personally working when I have time to see if I can program the firmware manually onto the Chromecast and get it to boot.
1080xt root 12.15.15

Cr4z33 said:
I just got my brand new Chromecast, but I would like to know why are they so hard to be rooted?
I mean is the kernel encrypted, written in an unknown programmable language, <putanotherreasonhere>?
Any hopes for the future or?
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Mainly you can't flash anything without Google's signature.
See Root Mini-FAQ

Alright then I better sell it and get a Minix Neo X7 instead!
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Cr4z33 said:
Alright then I better sell it and get a Minix Neo X7 instead!
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If you want a media server, definitely get a media server.
Chromecast is more of an add-on adapter, think of it as a "play certain videos remotely" adapter, rather than a full device.
Give it to a non-tech-head friend or family member. It works very well for those without smart TVs (or smart TVs with crappy UI).

I will bet that eventually it will be rooted one way or another say by a hardware flasher where someone will get the keys and from there woof they will make a software mod
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When I bought my cc it was rootable, but I considered rooting it was too much hassle (didn't even found a cable at the local stores) for a very small reward.
I don't regret updating it and I'm very pleased with it [emoji41]