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Hi all,
I cannot but tell you this huge doubt that has been haunting me since I got my Nexus 4: is this new 4.2 lockscreen really an improvement?
For me, it can be considered as a step forward (widgets) and two steps backward (camera and Google Now).
Let me explain:
Step back 1: the camera is now accessible only by swiping the screen to the right
Step back 2: Google Now is hidden as a tiny, little, dotted ring in the far bottom of the screen (see attached image)
Step forward: widgets to the left screen
This is all related to the new circle lock widget, that now allows you only to unlock the phone by dragging the center to whatever position in the borders (see attached image).
And you wanna now why Google did this? I'm strongly convinced they did it because of Apple's lockscreen patent. No joke and no flame intended here. If you read the patent, it clearly says that
The device is unlocked if contact with the display corresponds to a predefined gesture for unlocking the device.
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Well, with this upgrade the "predefined gesture" exists no more. Before Android 4.2, the only way you could slide to unlock was to move from point A (center) to point B (right): that's exactly what we call a "predefined gesture". Now you can slide to unlock from point A (center) to point B (right), or point C (left), or point D (bottom), and so on. In Android 4.2 the user is free to unlock to whatever position he or she feels like, Google is safe from Apple lawtrolls, but my impression is that we all lose here.
If this is not the reason, I can't figure out why they did this.
Honestly, who cares to unlock to whatever position? It is an automated gesture, I hardly see anyone saying "Oh, thank God, I really needed to swipe left and now I can, good job Google".
Now, instead of having three of the most useful apps in one place, and unlocking them immediately, we have to break this process in three different procedures. This is not immediate, this is awful and I'd like Google to revert to how things were before. They can leave the widgets, but the circle lock widget has to be restored as we have seen it in 4.1.
What do you think? Is this new lockscreen really this big improvement or, like me, do you see more cons than pros?
overall, im ok with it. like the google now thing is fine. but sliding left and right can sometimes be bothersome, but it wont kill me
It is just the start. They will build on it.
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I was worried as well, After using it on my GNex i have to say i like it, Alot of 3rd party apps have updated and are usable like Hd Widgets and Falcon for twitter. Im sure many more will follow.Getting to the camera and google now still only take 1 swipe. I see where you are coming from but adding functionality is hardly a step back. You dont have to use widgets and getting to Gnow and the camera are just as simple
i really do like the google now being down there. its where the home button actually is, which makes sense since you do drag up from the home button to get to google now quickly when on any screen (besides the lock screen of course). a bit more organized and less confusing for those who are coming to this phone for the first time
I just want my clock widget to get better from the black eye it's got.
What I'm saying is that the overall third party widget idea is more than welcome, but Google could have done much better by keeping Google Now and the Camera app within the lock circle and giving more space to widgets: that would have been accessible not only by swiping to the left, but also to the right.
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i really do like the Google Now being down there. its where the home button actually is, which makes sense since you do drag up from the home button to get to Google Now quickly when on any screen (besides the lock screen of course). a bit more organized and less confusing for those who are coming to this phone for the first time
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You know, at first I thought they had eliminated Google Now completely, then a friend of mine told me that it was in fact hidden behind that little dotted circle.
Every time you unlock in 4.1, you see a giant Google Now logo; in 4.2, if you want to get access to it in the lock screen, you have to go figure it out.
UltimateGoblin said:
You know, at first I thought they had eliminated Google Now completely.
A friend of mine had to tell me that it was in fact hidden behind that little dotted circle.
Every time you unlock in 4.1, you see a giant Google Now logo.
In 4.2, if you want to get access to it in the lock screen, you have to go figure it out.
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but youre used to it being on the lock screen, like sliding it up. im saying more for those who are new to the phone. they may be like "oh, sliding up on the home button gives me google now. cool!" then they will think that, and when going to the lock screen, it'll be the same process for them. now thats only my speculation. but i understand what you mean
It looks like a bug for me!!! The 4.1 lockscreen was way better!
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Old lockscreen found running on 4.2 Nexus 4
Thought this might interest you, also I would love to know how this is possible.
Here in the UK I tried out a Nexus 4 in a Carphone Warehouse store yesterday. We opened the box for the first time, booted up the phone and it presented us with the 4.1 version of the lockscreen .
The thing is, the phone was running on Android 4.2, I checked the settings, it was confirmed to be Android 4.2.
I am desperately trying to find a way to restore the old lock screen. The camera loads slower, the widgets are rubbish and I hate the new clock typeface.
Does anyone else know how this could be possible? The phone was unboxed and came straight from Google.
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Thought this might interest you, also I would love to know how this is possible.
Here in the UK I tried out a Nexus 4 in a Carphone Warehouse store yesterday. We opened the box for the first time, booted up the phone and it presented us with the 4.1 version of the lockscreen .
The thing is, the phone was running on Android 4.2, I checked the settings, it was confirmed to be Android 4.2.
I am desperately trying to find a way to restore the old lock screen. The camera loads slower, the widgets are rubbish and I hate the new clock typeface.
Does anyone else know how this could be possible? The phone was unboxed and came straight from Google.
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if you read reviews on the device, they were running 4.2 without the lockscreen widgets. the OTA implemented the functionality. idk why everyone thinks its bad. im ok with it. maybe the devs will include the option to have the old lockscreen in a custom ROM in the future
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if you read reviews on the device, they were running 4.2 without the lockscreen widgets. the OTA implemented the functionality. idk why everyone thinks its bad. im ok with it. maybe the devs will include the option to have the old lockscreen in a custom ROM in the future
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Oh now that is interesting, I'm very surprised Google didn't allow people to retain the old lock screen. One can only hope they listen to complaints and roll out an option to toggle widgets, customise clock typeface, etc.
I find accessing the camera by swiping to be a slower experience than before. It makes all that work speeding up the shutter seem a little pointless.
Not only that but sliding between widgets is very awkward when you have a phone case on. Step backwards indeed.
Initially I didn't like it, but it's kinda grown on me now. And I actually like the look of the clock with the hour in bold :victory:
If it's ever too humid or I'm too sweaty, making the phone that easy to unlock one way or another leads to some nasty accidents in the pocket. One time I ended up pocket calling two people over 20 times in the period of an hour. And that was with the original slide to unlock. It was so bad I had to put a pin lock on it temporarily.
For those complaining about the bold hour font on the clock you can easily download a mod to change it.
I didn't like the two flashing boxes that appeared for the widget screens so I downloaded a mod and now I just see the clock and the pattern unlock.
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For those complaining about the bold hour font on the clock you can easily download a mod to change it.
I didn't like the two flashing boxes that appeared for the widget screens so I downloaded a mod and now I just see the clock and the pattern unlock.
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That sounds great, which specific mod is that good sir?
I dont Understand why People are complaining about Smth so small
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The lock screen is too buggy
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arzbhatia said:
The lock screen is too buggy
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Really? I haven't found any bugs whatsoever in 4.2 so far.
Hi,
I've just installed PAC-MAN's 4.2.2. Really good ROM and I spotted a little third icon in the notification center.
Then I tapped on that, suddenly a little circle popped up on my screen and just sticked to the left. Then things becomes really annoying, because this little thing just does not go away. I went into the settings - ROM Control - Ribbons, and tried menu - reset ribbons again and again. Still can't get rid of this. Can somebody please tell me how to make this little circle thing disappear?
This little circle thing is really annoying. I'm not sure if this is the official feature of Android, or is it just the dev team's work? It takes the job of Notification center and pops out every single time I get new push notifications. I already see what the notification is from the status bar, and can easily deal with it in the dropdown notification center, so I do not need this thing to tell me again! What's worse, this thing takes up screen space, considering Galaxy Exhibit's screen is already a tiny one. And now I just don't know how to deal with it, letting it sitting there popping up randomly and I just can't turn the thing off.
Then I see that maybe the dev team has brought the idea of Ubuntu's idea. The point is, Ubuntu's idea is just a vertical dock, and the dock idea is not only Mac OS X's, but also Android's - look at the "phone" "contact" and "app drawer" icons at the bottom of the screen! I can't say this is a bad idea, but, please, give me the option to disable it.
Double tap and drag to the x. I think.
OMG it magically worked...
Thanks a lot!!!
gr. street said:
Hi,
I've just installed PAC-MAN's 4.2.2. Really good ROM and I spotted a little third icon in the notification center.
Then I tapped on that, suddenly a little circle popped up on my screen and just sticked to the left. Then things becomes really annoying, because this little thing just does not go away. I went into the settings - ROM Control - Ribbons, and tried menu - reset ribbons again and again. Still can't get rid of this. Can somebody please tell me how to make this little circle thing disappear?
This little circle thing is really annoying. I'm not sure if this is the official feature of Android, or is it just the dev team's work? It takes the job of Notification center and pops out every single time I get new push notifications. I already see what the notification is from the status bar, and can easily deal with it in the dropdown notification center, so I do not need this thing to tell me again! What's worse, this thing takes up screen space, considering Galaxy Exhibit's screen is already a tiny one. And now I just don't know how to deal with it, letting it sitting there popping up randomly and I just can't turn the thing off.
Then I see that maybe the dev team has brought the idea of Ubuntu's idea. The point is, Ubuntu's idea is just a vertical dock, and the dock idea is not only Mac OS X's, but also Android's - look at the "phone" "contact" and "app drawer" icons at the bottom of the screen! I can't say this is a bad idea, but, please, give me the option to disable it.
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Its a new app called halo me and jaws talked about it in the PAC thread.
Hi,
Been awhile since i was last to these forums, received my N6 yesterday and theres a few changes i would like to make, if its possible id like to disable the always on status bar clock, battery, network and wifi icon. as they are white and its an amoled screen id like to avoid burning these in quickly.
Im on factory android 5.0.0 build LRX210 that has an unlocked bootloader and rooted. thanks for any help you can provide.
Ruffian said:
Hi,
Been awhile since i was last to these forums, received my N6 yesterday and theres a few changes i would like to make, if its possible id like to disable the always on status bar clock, battery, network and wifi icon. as they are white and its an amoled screen id like to avoid burning these in quickly.
Im on factory android 5.0.0 build LRX210 that has an unlocked bootloader and rooted. thanks for any help you can provide.
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anyone?
I asked the same question about the Alarm icon in the status bar about 2 hours ago and it is already scrolled to the 2nd page so it doesn't look good for this.
Check out an app called GMD Immersive in the Play Store. It lets you hide the nav bar, or both nav and status bars.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gmd.immersive&hl=en
thanks ill give it a try, i really want to keep the n6 but i can already see the things that will burn in really quickly and im pretty ocd, would do my head in.
yep it does work, next thing is the google search bar, spure white will burn in quick, getting rid of that just leaves the wall paper really.
I upgraded via Muniz method to 5.0, meaning I can downgrade to 4.4.2 if I need to, but I'd rather try and stick with Lollipop. However, if I can't do a few specific things, I may be forced to downgrade. Perhaps y'all can help me out.
1. I hate the new notification system. I'd rather not have the annoying iOS type notifications on my lockscreen, but there's no way to just get the little icon in the top when getting a message or something. It seems you have to have that heads up stuff. Am I wrong? Is there a way to bring back just the icon at the top of the screen? Along with that, there's no way to dismiss the notification on the lockscreen while leaving an icon in the status bar. Overall, I'm just really really hating the notification situation.
With that said, when my phone is airlplane mode, which is most of the day at work, there's a damn heads up notification on my lockscreen telling me that even though there's also an icon in my status bar. Same with when Power Saving mode is on and when I'm connected to Wifi.
2. The trusted places seems to lack WIFI options, and even when connected to my trusted bluetooth device, I still need to swipe to unlock. On my old GS3 with Xposed, I had the No Lock Home module which didn't require the swiping, while also worked with Wifi and BT.
3. So far, I'm really unimpressed with the camera. Are there any cameras out there that have manual focus that WORKS on the S5? (Not totally a Lollipop issue).
4. Is there a way to get rid of the typing keyboard chooser in the notification panel?
I'm sure I could add more to this as I go on, but I feel like if I can at least fix the notification situation, I'd be ok for now until Xposed works (if it ever works) on TW 5.0.
Thanks!
I've been out of the loop for a while, and don't know all the ins and outs of Pie, but I was excited to see it was coming out and couldn't wait for it...until i woke up yesterday morning and found out that my Tmo Note 9 had installed something called a One UI Update and there was a notification in the upper-left corner that wouldn't go away. I realized it was the clock position, no moved away from the right corner.
Is there any way to move the clock back to the right side so it doesn't look like a perma-notification? Something that doesn't require root?
I've done some quick searches and some results are for the pixel or require root. Another possible solution was to use something called substratum(?) but that still might require root? Other places just said to file a bug report with google, but I doubt that would do anything.
Anyway, if anyone knows how to move the clock, back to where it's been for as long as I can remember, I'd appreciate it.
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I've been out of the loop for a while, and don't know all the ins and outs of Pie, but I was excited to see it was coming out and couldn't wait for it...until i woke up yesterday morning and found out that my Tmo Note 9 had installed something called a One UI Update and there was a notification in the upper-left corner that wouldn't go away. I realized it was the clock position, no moved away from the right corner.
Is there any way to move the clock back to the right side so it doesn't look like a perma-notification? Something that doesn't require root?
I've done some quick searches and some results are for the pixel or require root. Another possible solution was to use something called substratum(?) but that still might require root? Other places just said to file a bug report with google, but I doubt that would do anything.
Anyway, if anyone knows how to move the clock, back to where it's been for as long as I can remember, I'd appreciate it.
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Use System UI tuner .
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It shouldn't show just a notification...it shows the actual clock in the status bar.
Also possible with (Samsung) Good Lock and Quick Panel star app
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It shouldn't show just a notification...it shows the actual clock in the status bar.
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What I mean is that for years, notifications have always been in upper left by default (at least to my knowledge). So when I first looked at my screen, granted I had just woke up and my eyes were still a little fuzzy, it looked like a notification. Then I realized it was the clock.
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What I mean is that for years, notifications have always been in upper left by default (at least to my knowledge). So when I first looked at my screen, granted I had just woke up and my eyes were still a little fuzzy, it looked like a notification. Then I realized it was the clock.
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Ok, now I understand. I thought you meant it was just showing a notification, no clock.
Yeah, this has been discussed many times here in several Pie threads. This isn't a Samsung or One UI thing. It's a change Google implemented in Pie. Theory is, it is to account for notches, an for hole punch displays...like the S10/+ which has the hole on the right.
I never thought it would be this controversial of a change, and I imagine Google didn't either. I've been truly surprised at how many people hate it, LOL. Took me about 30 seconds to adjust to it, and I havent thought about it since. I guess to me it made sense, because in prior versions of Android, when you pulled the notification shade down, the clock moved over to the left anyway. Now it doesn't move.
Thanks for the suggestions for UI Tuner and and Sammy Good Lock; I'll give those a try.
Vote for good lock.
Wanted to report back that over the weekend I installed Good Lock.
Also, as a side note, I live really close to the manager of one of the Tmo stores in town and we chat in passing while walking our dogs every so often. Over the weekend we met each other on one such doggy walk and he had the exact same question for me that I asked here. Apparently he had quite a few people call or come in asking him the same thing too! I pointed him to the Good Lock app and showed him what it did for me. We're all happy campers now!
Appreciate the help, thanks!
Can I use SystemUI Tuner to add seconds to the stock clock?
I tried via the System UI Demo shortcut method and that didn't work. It's not a big deal I just like having the seconds up there as well. Also, will using SystemUI Tuner interfere with Good Lock in anyway?