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I had posted earlier about no Remix 3.0 for the Mini. Am I missing something here the Mini is only a matter of maybe a few months old and they have stopped supporting it already? This seems to me like a very poor way of doing business. Could you imagine if Microsoft announced that they where going to stop supporting Windows 10 after only six months? I tried to warn them about Allwinner during the Kickstarter everything I have tried from them has been junk plan and simple. Allwinner also has terrible support. But I expected more from Jide. I also have inquired with Jide if they intend to offer a discount on the new Rockchip Mini for the Kickstarter supporters where they have pulled support after it just being released. I like Remix OS but I am now skeptical about purchasing anything more from them after this.
You are not the only one. I paid $50 for a box that is inferior(besides the flash quality) to a $36 box that is apparently supported by them, and now I see on top of the box being inferior, support will be dropped for it too.
Pretty stupid.
Also the idea that you have to hardware mod to get root? No.
I understand frustration. But I use my Remix Mini every day (I Heart Radio, Tune In Radio) and occasionally Kodi, Netflix, various TV network apps, etc. Does all I ask of it and more. For less than $50. Would it be nice to have Marshmallow, or 4k video, of faster processor? Sure, but none seem to improve what I use it for.
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I see it okay for what I use it for even though after a couple of hours of use it gets REALLY hot and SLOW, to the point where I have to restart my Mini.
I would hope that updates would help it just run smoother so the lack of support sucks and causes me to look at other alternatives. Lesson learned on a 50$ experiment.
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I see it okay for what I use it for even though after a couple of hours of use it gets REALLY hot and SLOW, to the point where I have to restart my Mini.
I would hope that updates would help it just run smoother so the lack of support sucks and causes me to look at other alternatives. Lesson learned on a 50$ experiment.
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yeah but that lesson learned netted them over 1.5 Million and now they are just dropping it and expecting people to by a new model when the old one is only 8 months, never mind that they falsely advertised the 4K and can't even reproduce the digital audio AC3 out without glitches...
I thought of that but there is not much I can do at this point. I have been thinking of just installing the RemixOS to a i5 NUC of some sort.
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I thought of that but there is not much I can do at this point. I have been thinking of just installing the RemixOS to a i5 NUC of some sort.
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...i have RemixOS(4PC) running on part of my (Lenovo YogaPro3 ---12GB RAM + 512SSD)...& it is ridiculous-fast!!! i love it..
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....2 the original poster: "+1 right here with ya! ...i'm a kickstarter supporter and however i use my Mini on the daily in the living room.. I use the tablet a couple times a week for small tablet-tasks. When i found out the loss of support---- i was a bit peeved but i still enjoy what i have of theirs and i'm still going to end up purchasing the new one and probably still enjoy the O.G. Mini... OR... i may just hack it to pieces with a new OS."
Unfortunately I have 3 of the Mini's and while keeping one may be okay I definately don't need the other 2 but I could not in good conscious sell the others to to somebody unless they new the remix before hand...
To anybody interested in the other 2 I would sell them for $20$us each plus exact shipping. Barely even used except to make sure that all 3 worked when I got them and give them their recent updates. For $30US each I will throw in one of those mini keyboards with the Touch mouse and backlite for each one
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no point at the mo (no audio over HDMI) jide won't fix it coz its not their problem . so you might have to wait for MM release of remix to see if that's been fixed .
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Unfortunately I have 3 of the Mini's and while keeping one may be okay I definately don't need the other 2 but I could not in good conscious sell the others to to somebody unless they new the remix before hand...
To anybody interested in the other 2 I would sell them for $20$us each plus exact shipping. Barely even used except to make sure that all 3 worked when I got them and give them their recent updates. For $30US each I will throw in one of those mini keyboards with the Touch mouse and backlite for each one
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I may be interested in one of them, where are you located Darryl?
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@thirdlobe
no point at the mo (no audio over HDMI) jide won't fix it coz its not their problem . so you might have to wait for MM release of remix to see if that's been fixed .
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Like I said, I will just pick up a NUC later on.
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I may be interested in one of them, where are you located Darryl?
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Sorry already sold and picked up, I feel better, I got most of my money back.
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I had posted earlier about no Remix 3.0 for the Mini. Am I missing something here the Mini is only a matter of maybe a few months old and they have stopped supporting it already? This seems to me like a very poor way of doing business. Could you imagine if Microsoft announced that they where going to stop supporting Windows 10 after only six months? I tried to warn them about Allwinner during the Kickstarter everything I have tried from them has been junk plan and simple. Allwinner also has terrible support. But I expected more from Jide. I also have inquired with Jide if they intend to offer a discount on the new Rockchip Mini for the Kickstarter supporters where they have pulled support after it just being released. I like Remix OS but I am now skeptical about purchasing anything more from them after this.
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Hey wastate2014,
Really sorry to hear the disappointment evident from your post. The Remix Mini won't be getting Remix OS based on 6.0 anytime soon due to the Allwinner chip not supporting Marshmallow. This I've probably mentioned to you before.
Supporting Remix Mini is still something we're actively working on. There will be a test version going out to testers within a couple days and after it goes through testing, it'll be released as a public OTA update for all Mini users. If all goes well, I'd say testing will take around a week. Thus, we do continue to support Remix Mini, though we do have our resource challenges as a startup.
As for everything you've tried from us being junk, please let me know exactly what it is that's been bad and I'll do my best to make sure it's fixed as long as it's within my power to. Can you pass on a private email through PM here and I'll contact you about your issues.
Lastly, we will work harder to make sure our earliest backers, esp on Kickstarter, know we're listening and we value you. I'm sorry to anyone who has felt let down by us in any way.
Jason
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sketchman16 said:
You are not the only one. I paid $50 for a box that is inferior(besides the flash quality) to a $36 box that is apparently supported by them, and now I see on top of the box being inferior, support will be dropped for it too.
Pretty stupid.
Also the idea that you have to hardware mod to get root? No.
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Hey sketchman16,
Do you mind if you PM me with your email? I'd like to try to rectify the disappointment you have in us and our products.
Thanks,
Jason
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Hey sketchman16,
Do you mind if you PM me with your email? I'd like to try to rectify the disappointment you have in us and our products.
Thanks,
Jason
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Email address PMed. Thanks for the response.
Sooooo, not sure what the update did, but there is a new update if you opt in to receiving the testing releases. Still no root like you get by default in MM, which the Mini won't get.
I'm really not sure how this happens, but I'm done. There's no "rectify"-ing this beyond taking returns and providing refunds I don't think. And I would not expect that, of course.
So, I'm done. Anybody want mine, PM me. It's mint, and updated to the latest FW.
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Email address PMed. Thanks for the response.
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mine has been sat in a drawer for the last 2 months hugely disappointed with jide "rooting your mini will void your warranty" poor excuse. this device should have come pre-rooted simular to the way cm roms are. the people on xda are by nature tinkers and you jide actively dennying root access does not endear you. (a half pre rooted rom is still not good enough).
for most people the "P" in pc means personnal as in yours to do with or customize as YOU see fit, however in the case of the remix mini i think it means "pwned" by jide.
i had massive hopes for this device and remix but sadly have moved on.
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Sooooo, not sure what the update did, but there is a new update if you opt in to receiving the testing releases. Still no root like you get by default in MM, which the Mini won't get.
I'm really not sure how this happens, but I'm done. There's no "rectify"-ing this beyond taking returns and providing refunds I don't think. And I would not expect that, of course.
So, I'm done. Anybody want mine, PM me. It's mint, and updated to the latest FW.
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How did you sign up for that testing?
I dont mind by nature. LOL
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How did you sign up for that testing?
I dont mind by nature. LOL
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It's somewhere around the update window. 3 dots to click that give you settings to accept testing releases. I don't really see any point, unless they will offer root on the testing releases, maybe.
And still, I won't be bothering.
Nope.. not upset
I have bought many android devices... (meson/s802h/a31s/805/3188/3288/H8 ) some cheap.. some expensive
Expensive doenst mean good.. in many cases.. (and more cores doesnt mean faster computing)
-Most android tv boxes have no support what-So-ever, But with some support from XDA\freaktab\Libre-elec... most of them got to be quite good
The Remix Mini is just a average android device.. (hardware wise) But with good support and a great User Interface
The have earnt my respect.. ( with Remix Mini support / releasing 32bit for older pc hardware...giving a new spark to android x86 project )
Here is how to be a tester: http://support.jide.com/hc/en-us/articles/218012497-How-to-be-a-tester-
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Isn't it funny? :laugh:
Nougat is already available...
EE still haven't rolled out the update for some reason
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Isn't it funny? :laugh:
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Yes it is funny, that 5% of people that probably have branded phone cry all the time that they didnt get update, where everyone else have it...
Its annoying that minority make so much noise about it that for people who watch that from side its look like its some major problem, where in reality its just small group of people who didnt get that update because of their region or branding...
Also, again, to everyone who cry about updates: GET A LIFE. Update will not make your phone super-mega-ultra better, its juts a bigger number in phone info and few random UI features... What do you expect from updating your phone? You could have damn 4.0 in it that just look like 7.0 and you would not notice difference...
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5% of people didnt get update, where everyone else have it...
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Source?
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Source?
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Simple statistic math system: look for posts of people who have and dont have update, and to make it better, look for other forums too. It should took you about 10-15min because of magic of search engines(obviously use key words to speed it up). Or if you check such forums often you will get overall idea of how many people whine that they dont have update and people who say that they have.
And because of standard statistic reasoning that most of companies use, one person typically have the same opinion as 3-5 others people in group, so we round it up to some nice number(you should easily have 100 person that posted if they have/dont have update), and after that you will get that only about 5-15% of them dont have update, and biggest part of them didnt get it because they have branded device or live in specific region where even other companies dont push update so fast.
Of course statistics are statistics. They say only half of truth, but they give you basic idea of something without checking whole group, like for example group of people that own P9.
Also you can take in to the account Official Google statistics regarding Android:
https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html
And as you see here, only 8.9% of users have nougat on their devices.... it just prove that Huawei is not that bad at pushing updates, its just common problem with Android update system that google literally F### up at the beginning and didnt fix it for all those years(read: separating system components) :]
All the stats in the world aren't going to change the fact that it sucks, that despite promises of a "global" roll-out by the end of Q1 there are still 15% of us (according to your statistic) that didn't get the update.
If your company promised everyone bonus pay and in the end 15% of you didn't get it, you'd think that sucks too.
I've given up hope of receiving the update, seeing as the P10's been out for a few months already. And that sucks even more, because that means my Huawei "flagship" didn't even get ONE major Android update. And even though EMUI 4.1 is all right, there were a few features and improvements in EMUI 5.0 I was looking forward to.
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All the stats in the world aren't going to change the fact that it sucks, that despite promises of a "global" roll-out by the end of Q1
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So we should bash company because minority didnt get update, mostly because they have branded phone?
I got all updates that they roll out. And when you look at other brands and their update policy you will see that all companies promise fast updates and then for most of time they need to wait, OR WORST, they get that update but its bugged as hell and they need to wait even more to fix those bugs.
Also as I said, what do you really expect from those updates? Your phone doesnt work? it lack some features?
Because I had lots of devices, and Huawei P9 is not different here: new updates doesnt change much. More battery? More power? Nope. Most of people that say such thing say that because of clean install or lack of proper comparison(read: placebo).
All you will get is few random changes in UI that doesnt really matter in everyday usage and... thats it. Rest is just "something on changelog that you dont see anyway"
I'm not bashing anything.
You received all the updates and you think nothing important's been changed. Great for you. All I'm saying is: it's not up to you to decide what should or shouldn't be important for other people.
Some of the UI changes in EMUI 5.0 would make a difference to me in my daily use of the phone. But that's probably never going to happen. So yes, regardless of what you say: the fact that we still don't have an update sucks.
It's a flagship device. Very expensive device. And I still can't get the latest firmware update after 10 months of Nougat availability. They are completely incompetent if you admit it or not. It's embarrassing. This is my first and last phone from Huawei.
I think it's reasonable for owners of a machine that cost them the upper side of $500 to at least feel like the company respects them and is appreciative of their business.
You're right - updates aren't all that - however, they DO allow it's owners to feel connected to their devices, and foster the feeling that, yes, indeed, the machine was worth buying.
This is really the difference between Android and Apple and it does not help to excuse Android OEMs.
An update to 7.0 is not the same as an update within a particular series - it's a step upgrade to the current OS.
I also get upset with the constant whining for updates, however, it is reasonable, in JUNE for the Mate 9 owner to expect an update to Nougat.... And certainly to complain LOUDLY for not having received it. O is around the corner.
For Huawei and for the Mate 9, it's not too much to ask, PARTICULARLY when there are Mate 9s around the world that received updates half a year ago.
Let them complain is all I'm saying. People come here to feel like they've at least been heard. I know the frustration and sometimes just coming here and saying it, helps.
But also, really, if you had an update last month, don't come in and talk about how you'll 'never buy it again' because b300 has been out for at least two weeks, you've seen it, and the updates suck, you'll check again tonight and let us all know tomorrow. It cheapens the experience of an excellent phone and the hard work of the people behind it.
For those who haven't received the update, I'm sorry, I feel you, just remember you have a great, great phone - don't let the S8s and OnePlus's fool you, nor allow the lack of updates to degrade your enjoyment of the phone. The update will come, don't worry.
P.S. OMG - I've posted in the wrong topic...I thought this was Mate 9!! Oooops.
Why bash Huawei for it? In the case where providers didn't roll out the update, it is their fault, not Huawei's...
The update will come, don't worry. - Well no update since september 2016 when it comes to Vodafone Huawei P9, they keep saying they have not received the firmware from Huawei yet. Which means it's up to huawei to send the firmware to Vodafone for testing.
I bet most people debrand and update to nougat when their service provider seems to never be able to release an nougat firmware update because of huawei not giving it to them for testing. It should of been released months ago like a normal flagship phone.
I don't want Nougat anyway. All the builds I have used so far have been gash.
Quite happy on MM.
my advice is contact your local huawei support. I did a few weeks ago to be told that they have no intention of releasing the update in New Zealand to the p9 lite, and that they basically stopped supporting it in NZ last septemeber. This includes not patching the trustzone vulnerability. Have been working with the place I brought it from to get a refund
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It's a flagship device. Very expensive device. And I still can't get the latest firmware update after 10 months of Nougat availability. They are completely incompetent if you admit it or not. It's embarrassing. This is my first and last phone from Huawei.
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I agree, I got the P9 under EE... I couldn't believe no upgrade to nougat, and yes there is a big difference in the way new OS works with the phone... and the UI improvements help a lot in day to day usage of phone compared the crappy huawei marshmallow version... (very narrow minded of others to say you won't get any improvements..you do, I experienced the obvious difference!) .
I decided I wouldn't wait for the upgrade when I knew it was out... So I very very painfully upgraded the phone to nougat by spending stupid amounts of hours gaining knowledge. At the end I felt I got a new phone as responsiveness improved and the new emui 5 nougat OS was so much better and more usable. (fixed a lot of bugs)
So I feel for a lot of people who spend money to get flagship phones that never see the light of day with any upgrades/security patches, feels like we are cheated... Never owned (or will ever own) any apple ? IPhones but the OS ecosystem is rock solid... I wish the new OS version of Android that separates core OS from providers helps improve this.
Piece!
1 month and 7 days later - still nothing. :laugh:
I wouldnt worry about the 7 builds either, battery life is as good as halved.
Is it really? Why the issue? Are you sure its not the battery stats that need to re establish after a mjor upgrade?
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I wouldnt worry about the 7 builds either, battery life is as good as halved.
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I thought this too but since updating to b386 directly (skipped 361) battery life is far better than on MM. Been browsing Reddit and Facebook n WiFi for 2hr 44min and still have 71% battery left.
For those who haven't yet received updates, know that the delay in rollout is good for you..how? you may ask:
OTAs intentionally start very slowly, both in terms of numbers and in terms of timing. The goal is to try to identify catastrophic failures that wouldn’t have been found in testing. Those things can happen, unfortunately. From the point where a phase of the OTA is sent out, it takes at least 2 days to collect enough information to make a decision about the next phase.
Phase by phase, the OTA gets exponentially deployed to more and more people, up to a point where enough people are running it to be able to extrapolate even rare issues to the entire population, at which point the flow gets much faster.
The point of going phase by phase is explicitly to be able to stop the process in case something goes wrong, and that’s why there can’t even be an ETA.
Maybe that is so, maybe not. Did you receive this information from the horse's mouth directly or did you just made this up?
Not saying this could not be a strategy though.
I got this info from here : this is for Google though
https://www.google.com/amp/s/ausdro...pdates-and-why-they-are-slow-to-roll-out/amp/
You must know that Huawei software development teams, or for that matter any phone companies for their respective softwares, are constantly looking into and collecting feedbacks from popular English and Non-English community forums including XDA. That's why we need to participate actively and state out even smallest of bugs. OnePlus burnt it's fingers by inserting data snooping codes last year, so they will leverage as much as possible on community forums for feedbacks.
I need some info
I'm on 9.0.0.142(C185E10R1P16)
Is it the latest update or I'm behind
Mines on 9.0.0.146(C432E1OR1P16) November 1st security
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I'm on 122 in the UK, Vodafone... Got some serious catching up to do... Really want 171 so I can unlock bootloader!
The last one is 176 for Mate 20 pro...
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For those who haven't yet received updates, know that the delay in rollout is good for you..how? you may ask:
OTAs intentionally start very slowly, both in terms of numbers and in terms of timing. The goal is to try to identify catastrophic failures that wouldn’t have been found in testing. Those things can happen, unfortunately. From the point where a phase of the OTA is sent out, it takes at least 2 days to collect enough information to make a decision about the next phase.
Phase by phase, the OTA gets exponentially deployed to more and more people, up to a point where enough people are running it to be able to extrapolate even rare issues to the entire population, at which point the flow gets much faster.
The point of going phase by phase is explicitly to be able to stop the process in case something goes wrong, and that’s why there can’t even be an ETA.
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I got this info from here : this is for Google though
https://www.google.com/amp/s/ausdro...pdates-and-why-they-are-slow-to-roll-out/amp/
You must know that Huawei software development teams, or for that matter any phone companies for their respective softwares, are constantly looking into and collecting feedbacks from popular English and Non-English community forums including XDA. That's why we need to participate actively and state out even smallest of bugs. OnePlus burnt it's fingers by inserting data snooping codes last year, so they will leverage as much as possible on community forums for feedbacks.
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Maybe you are right but you should not generalize: if you know of any specific failures with any specific updates, please share that instead.
Also, the article you reference to is from 2013 and speaks about Google and their Nexus devices - Huawei and other companies might do their own testing before rolling out OTAs.
Meh, updates don't mean loss of power or features. If anything this is the most rock solid phone I have ever had, and as for raw performance - they have already found a very nice balance off efficiency. The Kirin 980 is crazy efficient, I do question just how aggressive the memory management is but I haven't seen performance throttled for heat or anything. We may be missing a few key features still (at least here in North America), but I'm still willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. It doesn't seem like Hi-Vision was snipped because it was buggy, it is probably just the adjustments for the Western market that are holding it back. The only 'bug' I've seen is that wi-fi seems to slow down, toggling airplane mode seems to 'reset' it but I'm hoping updates make this better.
In India we are still stuck with 9.0.0.126. October patch
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For those who haven't yet received updates, know that the delay in rollout is good for you..how? you may ask:
OTAs intentionally start very slowly, both in terms of numbers and in terms of timing. The goal is to try to identify catastrophic failures that wouldn’t have been found in testing. Those things can happen, unfortunately. From the point where a phase of the OTA is sent out, it takes at least 2 days to collect enough information to make a decision about the next phase.
Phase by phase, the OTA gets exponentially deployed to more and more people, up to a point where enough people are running it to be able to extrapolate even rare issues to the entire population, at which point the flow gets much faster.
The point of going phase by phase is explicitly to be able to stop the process in case something goes wrong, and that’s why there can’t even be an ETA.
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This feature can be used when charging is urgently needed, very good.
Stuck on .122 have a SIM free phone so not carrier locked, got the phone in Ireland but am travelling over the last few months, no update is showing, either on the phone or hi care on pc.. anyone know the story?
Good for who still on earlier version like .122. Higher version seem worse on battery life + temperature
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Zanr Zij said:
Good for who still on earlier version like .122. Higher version seem worse on battery life + temperature
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I'm actually getting better battery usage on .187 than I was on .122
Anyway to force the latest update to show up??
Hungary Vodafone .... 187 . January security patch.
In Indonesia stuck at .183 (C301), but I force update to .187 (C432) using MMC
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In Indonesia stuck at .183 (C301), but I force update to .187 (C432) using MMC
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What do you mean forced the update using MMC?
206 is the latest you can install using some modifications. Works fine on C432. Check the thread by "mikeos".
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What do you mean forced the update using MMC?
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my cust is C301, but I'm update the firmware using MMC with C432.
After update my cust still C301.
Now, I'm trying update using HSToool 1.0.1 from Mikeos to 9.0.0.206
I was randomly browsing youtube when I suddenly felt the urge to search for this device however, with a filter to only get videos posted in the past 24 hours.
And I found this particular video which caught my attention immediately.
I watched it and within the first minute, my e-boner died. Apparently, this user contacted the support from Nubia who confirmed that the Global versions won't get anymore updates, like literally none. Not even security updates, let alone major patches.
I'm shocked and curious if anybody else knows anything else about this. I mean... those security patches mean a lot and I was expecting a minimum of guaranteed android Q update in the future. Yet... apparently the phone is practically dead, unless you force punch the chinese ROM down it's throat.
Can anybody confirm any of this? For me it would be a 100% deal breaker.
First, they completely cut off whatever piece of software they were using for the phone and gave us a very stock feel/look with cut down features and abilities. Now this? Nubia come on.
Don't worry about updates. You are worrying about a guy who spoke to a CUSTOMER SERVICE REP. Those people are paid hourly wages and don't know ANYTHING about when or if devices will get updates. Relax and enjoy this awesome phone.
Hi,
Given the past of ZTE/Nubia, I would not put too high expectations on updates.
Maybe we will have 2 or 3 updates in the phones lifetime.
But I would expect a major update like to Android Q (I am pretty sure this will not happen).
There's no secret : to release a device with those features at that price and with all bonuses (earphones + USB-C cable + external battery + joystick) they ahve to save some expenses. Where do they make those savings ?
Yeah, you guessed correctly : in support.
So ask a question to customer support => 3 days to get an answer to a really simple question.
And of course support of software : non existent. Probably made by interns but in no way some pros working there... If there were, they would never have released this totaly useless global software...
As far as I am concerned : the device is used only for GPS guiding when I am on the way. But for nothing else... That makes a 480€ GPS. Probably the most expensive device I've ever had...
Jesus. So the basic global software is so... basic that it fully cancels out it's usability?
Have you considered going through the pain of flashing the chinese ROM?
It's really worrying to see that there are quite a few people stating that this device might not see more than 3 to 4 software updates in it's life. It's fascinating to see that the device is in fact not really a priority...
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Jesus. So the basic global software is so... basic that it fully cancels out it's usability?
Have you considered going through the pain of flashing the chinese ROM?
It's really worrying to see that there are quite a few people stating that this device might not see more than 3 to 4 software updates in it's life. It's fascinating to see that the device is in fact not really a priority...
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I dont know what people have but the global rom is okay, i have no Bugs, battery lifetime is good and so on.
I totally agree with the previous poster.
I'm on global, which is basically Vanilla Android Pie.
The phone is smooth as butter and I have about 11 hours of SOT time.
Yes, at the moment it doesn't have Dark mode and the themes engine. I'm sure it will receive these soon.
I don't care about updates at the moment, will see about that in the future.
But I can assure you that at the moment global is quite ok.
Hello everyone!
I am planning on purchasing a Note 9 which has just come up on discount locally. I was wondering if you guys could help me out with a few questions I have : ):
- Does the battery life of the Note 9 diminish greatly within a few months of usage?
- Does the stock Samsung UI start to lag a lot within a few months of usage?
- Stock camera app good enough or will need to install Google Cam app? If so, How good is google camera app on the Note 9?
Thank you for your time.
No
No
Very good
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Maky-313 said:
Hello everyone!
I am planning on purchasing a Note 9 which has just come up on discount locally. I was wondering if you guys could help me out with a few questions I have : ):
- Does the battery life of the Note 9 diminish greatly within a few months of usage?
- Does the stock Samsung UI start to lag a lot within a few months of usage?
- Stock camera app good enough or will need to install Google Cam app? If so, How good is google camera app on the Note 9?
Thank you for your time.
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it all depends on what you install on it.
but for the last question stock is pretty good. especially if device has the latest firmware(software update)
Maky-313 said:
Hello everyone!
I am planning on purchasing a Note 9 which has just come up on discount locally. I was wondering if you guys could help me out with a few questions I have : ):
- Does the battery life of the Note 9 diminish greatly within a few months of usage?
- Does the stock Samsung UI start to lag a lot within a few months of usage?
- Stock camera app good enough or will need to install Google Cam app? If so, How good is google camera app on the Note 9?
Thank you for your time.
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Best way to charge is with a wireless charge pad overnight. That's a slow charge and very easy on the battery. By the end of my 12hr days of moderate talking/texting, the phone is at 80%, and then I use it all night (instead of tv) and it's at 50% when I go to bed. That's with auto brightness, the dark UI (night mode) and no added theme. Dark mode all the apps. It looks gorgeous. I've had it for about four months, and it's an amazing phone. No lag. VERY nice OS (Android 9 + OneUI). Camera app is excellent. Google Cam app would not be better. When you buy a Note9 new, do ALL the updates (Android 8 to 9 and all security patches) right away before installing any apps, and you will have a trouble-free system. Android 9 in most regions does not have call recording. A US unbranded Note9 is bloat-free and great for T-Mobile, because you still get wifi-calling and VoLTE, but for the other carriers, you lose those if you don't get their branded version. If you want to root your phone, you must buy an Exynos or dual-sim Snapdragon version. All US Note9 versions are bootloader-locked and will not root. Ain't happening. This is the first Android setup I've had where it's so good I don't need root (7 of my Androids are rooted and non-stock ROMmed). Note9 is better than Note10. The last great Samsung phone.
If you're thinking about Sprint as a carrier learn Spanish. No way Jose. The device cant do voice and data unless you downgrade to Oreo and even then its wishy washy.
docdg said:
If you're thinking about Sprint as a carrier learn Spanish. No way Jose. The device cant do voice and data unless you downgrade to Oreo and even then its wishy washy.
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CDMA has always been terrible.
Nah just this phone
ok thanks guys
It's really betweent his and the S9 for now.
No lag at all running on firmware that orginally shipped with the Note 9 which is Android 8.1.
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No lag at all running on firmware that orginally shipped with the Note 9 which is Android 8.1.
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Why you're still on such an old firmware???
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bat0nas said:
Why you're still on such an old firmware???
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Easy. Becasue I hate Pie.
I want to buy a 512GB Note9 International for Christmas or so, nice to see everyone is happy with the phone & the updates
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Easy. Becasue I hate Pie.
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Have you tried it?
I really don't understand the haters.
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dave678 said:
Easy. Because I hate Pie.
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Don't go past Oreo Dave. There is more wrong past that than is immediately apparent. Most of the complaints at the play store about apps that used to work and don't anymore is based on not only Pie, but also play store updates that put you in iPhone prison. The apps at the Play Store had to be rewritten to uselessness to remain listed, which made apkpure.com my new friend to download previous versions of apps, and turn off Google Policy Updates at both the play store and my phone. Because I have the 960U, I had to flash to the US UNLOCKED U1 firmware and then disable updates in the configs by following these instructions. The forcing updates by US carriers and play store to strip functionality that protects you appears to be a US deep state driven thing because many nations won't put up with those restrictions and appears to be a U-model-only thing.
There's a lot of opinions and hyperbole about Pie and OneUI on Note9. I've been running it since day one on Note9, and I have zero app issues. I think most app issues are from updating from 8 to 9 after apps were installed. Those with upgrade issues have done a factory reset then reinstalled apps and watched all those issues go away. I like it much more than Android 8 + TouchWiz. Most of the justified dislike is around call recording. If you must have call recording, better disable updates and stay on old software otherwise update without worry, and enjoy continued security updates.
Had zero issues after update.
When I hear people complaining about such things I tend to believe that the problem is not with pie+one_ui but with the people.
Yes there are exceptions.
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Have you tried it?
I really don't understand the haters.
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I have tried it multipe times whenever I go to Costco. By playing around with an S10 and Note 10 Plus and I still hate it.
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There's a lot of opinions and hyperbole about Pie and OneUI on Note9. I've been running it since day one on Note9, and I have zero app issues. I think most app issues are from updating from 8 to 9 after apps were installed. Those with upgrade issues have done a factory reset then reinstalled apps and watched all those issues go away. I like it much more than Android 8 + TouchWiz. Most of the justified dislike is around call recording. If you must have call recording, better disable updates and stay on old software otherwise update without worry, and enjoy continued security updates.
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I just hate the look and no AM or PM.
gruuvin said:
There's a lot of opinions and hyperbole about Pie and OneUI on Note9. I've been running it since day one on Note9, and I have zero app issues. I like it much more than Android 8 + TouchWiz. Most of the justified dislike is around call recording. If you don't need that, then you can update without worry.
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I would agree with that. Actually, any app other than a dialer that leverages your contacts and call history is hamstrung or no longer works. On Android 10, they purposely killed call recording altogether. Since most calls go VoLTE, the calling parties are the only ones deprived of a record of their calls. Everyone else in the chain keeps a copy.
Android established its market by being the open choice, and actually the only choice for non-Apple after Steve Balmer pulled the plug on the Windows Mobile/Pocket PC. Even rooting was a normal option without permanently disabling the capabilities of your device. The progression has been to force IOS limitations upon Android, with more an more access to your private information by phone makers and Google. As with LTE-A, It's time for a non-proprietary mobile operating system that is beholden to its users instead of companies and governments. Vendors can plug their Touchwiz or whatever into that.
As for CDMA, Qualcomm used it as a product name because it incorporates cdma as a technology. The only reason GSM didn't go with it is CDMA as a product name and technology is because it was owned by Qualcomm. GSM service was poor, expensive, and impractical in many areas until later when GSM went to cdma. The EU legislated against CDMA, and this affected their orbiting countries. Developed countries went with CDMA, including the US, Japan, South Korea, Russia, etc., and even countries in the EU bolted GSM for CDMA. The defining moment came at 4G time when Sprint gained control of Clearwire, the owner of the new 4G, Wi-MAX. This caused Verizon to bolt Wi-MAX. Their clout plus the emerging Cingular/ATT network caused Sprint to realize they couldn't pull this off and they also bolted. That enabled LTE to gain critical mass and LTE-A to become the IP of cellular networks. With the problem becoming usable cellular bandwidth, and with a usable de facto worldwide standard for wireless communication, the FCC and similar organizations could now force out the 3G and earlier technologies that were tying up bandwidth. Because CDMA is locked to the wireless network vendor and cannot be shared, it is logical for it to be the first on the chopping block. There are no longer any Wi-MAX phones, but Clearwire, who was and is many years ahead, has gone on to provide the wireless matrix for many of the largest cities around the world with user technologies at their perimeter, of which 5G is one. GSM's claim to fame has never been one of technical superiority, it has been openness and interoperability. However, the US did something similar when it developed the DARPANET/INTERNET by not allowing proprietary protocols and building out IP.
When I updated my S7 to Oreo, I liked the improvements over Nougat, but there were still a lot of things with the OS that needed tweaking, with frameworks like Exposed or Substratum. But with third-party options like that, the problem is diverging development, late bug-fixes, and generally dealing with a certain amount of brokenness. I think Android+Samsung OS has evolved well, to the point where PieOneUI is the first system that I don't mind not rooting or need to heavily tweak. Dark mode is a big part of that. I HATE WHITE APPS. I think Android 10 with OneUI is going to be quite good.
All that said, I agree with IT, and I don't like the GOOG having this much control. I do wish we had a much more open and community driven OS.
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dave678 said:
I just hate the look and no AM or PM.
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AM or PM? ruserious?
Now that you pointed it out, I might have to roll back to Oreo! Oh wait, I can look out the window.
To me, this OS feels like less is more. It's clean, it's laid out sensibly. (unbranded no carrier bloat + tmobile + Nova Prime also helps). There is a Note9 OneUI port for the S7, which has made my S7 almost perfect now.
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When I updated my S7 to Oreo, I liked the improvements over Nougat, but there were still a lot of things with the OS that needed tweaking, with frameworks like Exposed or Substratum. But with third-party options like that, the problem is diverging development, late bug-fixes, and generally dealing with a certain amount of brokenness. I think Android+Samsung OS has evolved well, to the point where PieOneUI is the first system that I don't mind not rooting or need to heavily tweak. Dark mode is a big part of that. I HATE WHITE APPS. I think Android 10 with OneUI is going to be quite good.
All that said, I agree with IT, and I don't like the GOOG having this much control. I do wish we had a much more open and community driven OS.
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AM or PM? ruserious?
Now that you pointed it out, I might have to roll back to Oreo! Oh wait, I can look out the window.
To me, this OS feels like less is more. It's clean, it's laid out sensibly. (unbranded no carrier bloat + tmobile + Nova Prime also helps). There is a Note9 OneUI port for the S7, which has made my S7 almost perfect now.
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Ahh the old look out the window comment. You live in Alaska you're ****ed so you need AM and PM. Also it's on phones for years until the notch trend rolled in and they axed it. If it's useless then why did so many people beg Samsung to bring it back during the Pie beta test?