My mother is looking at getting a new tablet but is looking at getting a tablet where she can install the apps on the sd card. Looking at the 2016 version with 6.0. Can you do that with this tablet
I have the T813 and stock it's cumbersome. You have to manually move each app to SD card within Application Manager. And every time there's an update from Play Store for said app you have to repeat memory move. It's garbage really.
Tennoh said:
I have the T813 and stock it's cumbersome. You have to manually move each app to SD card within Application Manager. And every time there's an update from Play Store for said app you have to repeat memory move. It's garbage really.
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This is not even a Samsung limitation it's Android in general, so not sure what you mean by 'garbage'?
There are 2 ways around this, enable adoptable storage or use one of the many apps to move the apps for you automatically.
Link2sd , Folder mount etc. Root required.
Also the fact it already has 32gb of internal storage, to fill it you would have to have a serious amount of apps installed if all you use the internal storage for is apps.
I manage just fine with plenty left over on 16gb.
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I had said stock. To use any of those 3rd party app or terminal fixes or you need root which in turn invalidates warranty currently with the 2016 S2 Tabs that I'm aware of.
As for this being a general Android problem, so what? Samsung being largest OEM should be building devices with large internal memory options for this 2016 series.
Aside from memory management, I'm actually quite satisfied with my T813 regardless. I just won't be custom modding right now. Maybe later when the issue becomes more annoying.
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Hi,
I'm trying to be patient and wait for the 32gb S5 to be available but:
Here's my question:
After you get your 16 gb S5, and then you install all your must have apps,
how much space is actually left on the internal storage????
This is assuming you put all your music,videos on a sd card.
Thanks, Ken
approximately, 9 GB left, yes all music,photos,video and some apps are on sdcard
You don't need 32. I have a crazy amount of apps, i use google music and i have tons of songs saved on my SD card. i have about 8.5 gigs still left on internal storage. see screenshot.
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available space is 9.11GB
With 50 apps installed, available space is 9.11GB.
Space taken by .thumbnails (302 MB) and whatsapp (271MB mostly pictures and videos)
My photos, video, music are on SD card.
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yoonus said:
With 50 apps installed, available space is 9.11GB.
Space taken by .thumbnails (302 MB) and whatsapp (271MB mostly pictures and videos)
My photos, video, music are on SD card.
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Hi,
And thanks for all your replies. On my S4 I have 2.62gb in apps and backup program I use.
So, doing the math, I can install everything on the 16 gb S5 and possibly have 7 plus gigs left.
I think that may work out well then!!!!
Ken
kenfb1 said:
Hi,
I'm trying to be patient and wait for the 32gb S5 to be available but:
Here's my question:
After you get your 16 gb S5, and then you install all your must have apps,
how much space is actually left on the internal storage????
This is assuming you put all your music,videos on a sd card.
Thanks, Ken
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I got about 8.4 go left and I have everything on my SD card and some of my apps. Before I moved my apps I had about 7.5 go left
TBH I was holding out for the GS5 32GB as well but finally caved as I didn't want to be stuck with the GN3 any longer. So far I installed my usual list of apps and I did move what apps I could and only the portion of the app that will transfer to the microSD card. My d/l of apps is usually about 1.5-1.8GB so after I moved the apps I have over 10GB left and I feel I can live with it.
That said IF Samsung doesn't start offering the GS in a 32GB version on the S6 and up I likely won't stay regardless of how much I like their hardware. For me you need MORE storage not less and the included bloatware was a joke. Oddly you could disable much more this time around compared to the GN3 including Flipboard but still I want more.
I use my S5 as my mobile media device and I have a 64gb external storage card cause my tab 3 doesn't support over 32gb. the fact that, one post said I don't need that much external memory is not a heavy user as others are.
My issue is that with os 4.4.x and later, they stopped allowing a user to write from device memory to external memory via apps. This sounds like an iphone setup to me. I have had all galaxy s series from the s2 to current s5 and to take that option to transfer from device memory to external storage memory via my apps is making me wonder about Android becoming more of an iPhone than an Android.
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i dunno, i've apps on my s5 that are happily maintaining data on the sd card i put in.
The default Camera among them.
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My issue is that with os 4.4.x and later, they stopped allowing a user to write from device memory to external memory via apps. This sounds like an iphone setup to me. I have had all galaxy s series from the s2 to current s5 and to take that option to transfer from device memory to external storage memory via my apps is making me wonder about Android becoming more of an iPhone than an Android.
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I second this complaint. Just another reason I want root.
C0derbear said:
i dunno, i've apps on my s5 that are happily maintaining data on the sd card i put in.
The default Camera among them.
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@C0derbear.. my concern is the transferring of photos and videos from device folders to sd card folders using the prespective app for moving or copying on the S5
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'Prespective' app? I'll need to look that one up. Not familiar.
Do you mean 'perspective' by a54studio?
I thought by perspective apps, he meant apps like file explorers.
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I think Qwayke just made a typo. He meant to say *respective* apps.
Transferring using e included file manaher works fine to be sure. I do it all the time with pics downloaded from Web or FB.
I have used a reported 6gig out of 11 on my /sdcard0, and yet when I run sd analyst in es explorer it doesn't add up as you can see in the attachment.
Sd analyst seems to be correct because I don't have any huge games installed. So where did all my storage go?
Its all the apps Samsung puts on there that you cant delete.
If somebody starts a class action lawsuit on this device like they did with the iPad I am all over it. Its not even remotely fair that a 16gig device has 8.9gig free because of 3+ gigs of bloatware you cant delete.
I have an SD card, but the lack of app space is concerning me.
Except I'm not running touch wiz. I'm running a CM12 ROM. Any way if I'm reading it right, this is just counting /storage/emulated/legacy the user data partition. Very weird.
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Except I'm not running touch wiz. I'm running a CM12 ROM. Any way if I'm reading it right, this is just counting /storage/emulated/legacy the user data partition. Very weird.
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That does not make sense? I hope one of the Devs can come up with the answer to this mystery!
Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't it that if you root your device and get a rom let's say CM, as far as I know CM doesn't eat up a lot of space meaning depending on the contents of that rom, that 3gb bloat ware should be gone right?? Also this is what frustrates me with Samsung, we just can't have the option to write over to SD cards which I know can be a liability but look at the what we need to deal with. There's no 32gb version in my country so I'm always cramped up for space and I hate it, having to remove apps and games just to get by.
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Well I wiped my internal memory (drastic measure) and started over and now it looks correct. Not sure what was behind it.
More information would be great here. I know there's an incredible amount of Google bloat on these devices, but perhaps there is some information missing from the ES File Explorer results. I'd recommend downloading a dedicated app cache cleaner and a dedicated storage analyst app to get an accurate idea of all the things that are taking up storage. Some of the biggest offenders are browsers, but the one I've seen eat up a whole gigabyte on unknowing users' phones is usually the sneaky Google+.
Storage analyzer
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.levelokment.storageanalyser
1Tap Cleaner
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.a0soft.gphone.acc.free
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with Samsung, we just can't have the option to write over to SD cards which I know can be a liability but look at the what we need to deal with.
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Well, with Google Android Kitkat, it was decided that apps should only be allowed to write to their own sandboxed folders on the SD card anyway. Samsung has always been pretty good about at least allowing file management via a first party app, and even managing which apps can use the SD card are listed in the application manager, so I fail to see how Samsung is at fault here. (Meanwhile, in addition to demanding restrictions across the board to SD cards in Kitkat and then Lollipop, Google's more focused on forcing a social network on their users than writing a file manager for all the devices that DO have SD cards... or providing any decent AOSP apps in general.)
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Without going into too much detail the amount of available space is affected by the partition layout of the device. Esp with cm or custom rom that only takes up a couple hundred mb; the system partition ends up with a lot of unused space. If you were willing the modify your default partition table you could reclaim some usable space. Though I would place this in the advanced user grouping and would not recommend attempting it.
Hi All, at the risk of being flamed with a crazy n00b question, I'm trying to figure out the best way to use the microSD card. Got 3 of these Kindle Fire's for Christmas for my 10, 8, and 5 yr old boys. The parental controls look fabulous for my needs for them, the obvious problem is the internal storage. I'm reading up as much as I can, realizing root is my saving grace (Thank you Tomsgt!!!!) for getting apps to move to the microSD card, I'm trying to figure out the best/easiest program to make this actually happen.
What are you all using? Any pre-requisites to make this happen (besides root)? Do I have to setup symbolic links, or is there a way to make this all automagic? Is there a way to make content automatically download to the SD card or do I just need to plan on managing this a little an app at a time to move after install?
I tried Link2SD, followed some guides I found, but the immediate problem I found was I wasn't able to copy anything onto the FAT32 partition when it's in the Fire and the Fire is in my computer. Maybe I need to just take the card out and copy content (movies and stuff) directly onto the card that way, but it just doesn't seem quite right.
Ultimately my goal is to get all apps (not system apps obviously) and content to the microSD card.
Thanks so much for your help to this n00b (typically an iPhone user, having a fun time trying to drink from a firehouse trying to live in both worlds)!!
I've been using Link2sd for a number of years. And I find it very helpful for the fire. 1st off you need to repartition the SD card. Set both partitions as primary. 2nd partition I set as a ext2. I have it setup to automatically move new apps to 2nd partition via settings.
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Thanks for responding back! I'm working to try to get link2sd working, but am running into an issue.
I've rooted, installed link2sd, rebooted, and when I launch the app I can choose whichever of the 2 I've created (44GB FAT32 and 20GB EXT2), in either case, after I choose that I'll see a screen that says: "Root Access Warning", "Link2SD could not obtain root access."
In an effort to try to 'start over', I've downloaded the latest firmware, re-installed, went through the basics, did root ONLY (no OTA blocks, nor ad bocks), and just tried re-installing Link2SD, but I'm getting the exact same behavior and unable to move apps.
Got any ideas or thoughts?
Thanks a ton!
Short Version:
I formatted ext2, but had to choose ext4 upon startup of link2sd.
Long Version:
I got it worked out. Stupid. When I formatted the SD card on my computer, I KNOW I told it to go ext2 because every guide I read said use 2 since it'd be better for stock ROMs. When launching link2sd every time I said use ext2 it would tell me it couldn't obtain root. I went and got the link2sd app from google play (I had previously only been using the one from the Amazon App store) and it's pretty obvious the one in the Amazon App store is out dated, or stripped down or something. When I launched the latest link2sd, I would get mount script errors. I then proceeded to just start trying other partitions, and when I chose ext4, BAM, looks like that's the ticket.
Hopefully this might help other poor unsuspecting souls.
Is LINK2SD the only way to do this ?
I'm running the resurrection-remix rom and wondered if there's something built in that I'm missing.
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Is LINK2SD the only way to do this ?
I'm running the resurrection-remix rom and wondered if there's something built in that I'm missing.
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I certainly can't say for sure, but, it definitely appears that this is truly the only app I can find that will actually allow you to move ALL aspects of an app to the SD Card. I've tried several others and all they end up allowing you to do is move the program itself, not the content. Which, for something like Knights Of The Old Republic, sucks 'cause the app's like 40 MB, and the content is 2GB. The kicker is that Link2SD is "free", but it's basically not functional until you purchase the license. I suppose they do this so you can first see if you can get it all to the point JUST BEFORE you can move content, because as I've found, there are several steps. Once you're ready to move, you're good to go, just need the license and you can proceed forward. I'm still in the middle of playing with it, but it appears that there are settings which will auto place EVERYTHING onto the SD card if installing from an online app store. Truly worth the 2 bucks and change to actually open up your SD card.
(on a side note, I totally understand one reason why this *could* be a bad thing to do, and that's only if your microSD card is slow. The internal memory on devices is likely as fast as you can get, but the budget microSD cards are definitely going to be slower. I seriously doubt it'll prevent an app from opening, all it means is that you just need to go into it with your eyes wide open that it might launch apps a little slower... which... for me I could care less 'cause these fires are for my 10, 8, and 5 year olds )
Just found foldermount on the playstore, sounds ideal, I'll report back here.
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Just found foldermount on the playstore, sounds ideal, I'll report back here.
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This app works a treat
I highly recommend paying the small price for the pro version to remove the limitations.
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link2sd isn't the only app that's severely out of date on the Amazon appstore. I find that to be very common.
Foldermount works well, but nothing beats the simplicity of link2sd. Most notably, sometimes on bootup Foldermount can take some time to do its thing, whereas link2sd links are usually immediately functional. I don't know what difficulty you had with the free version; I used it successfully for years (and supplemented it with Foldermount for two offline navigation apps whose data storage was particularly bad) before finally paying the $2.35 for the Plus version which basically just adds the ability to move an app's data as well as the app itself.
When you have a ton of apps on a slow SD card (regardless of link2sd vs. Foldermount etc) the whole system can get very slow and even unresponsive, far beyond a tolerable mere need to wait for an app to open. However, if that happens then you know what you need to do...uninstall some apps. I try to keep apps that run all the time on internal. That helps. And yeah, if you're using link2sd/Foldermount/etc then definitely don't cheap out on a slow card.
Using a Samsung Memory 64 GB Evo MicroSDXC UHS-I Grade 1 Class 10 Memory Card at the minute, hopefully good enough. Poor decision not to be able to store apps on an external card as standard tbh.
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So ive been using this option since setting up my Exynos Note 8 from day one with a Sammy Pro Evo Plus 256gb micro sd card and its worked pretty much perfect allowing me to move all of the app/data to the external SD Card BUT when an app gets an update come through and downloading/installing said update the app always reverts back to the Internal whereas it was previously on the external which is obviously very annoying and inconvenient that's Query 1 so Query 2 is only as far as i can tell this only happens with any app/game from installed from Google play using this feature that is whilst im able to move all of the app/data to the external Sd card it actually doesn't show/reflect that at all in the Storage options which obviously makes know sense and obviously pointless being a complete waste of time, any ideas/suggestion with any of the above welcome, thx.
I have an MS-N950U1, stock, running the latest update S2BQL2. Most apps cannot use/have access to SD Card. I tried enabling the "FORCE ALLOW APPS ON EXTERN....." under Developers Options - Please see photo attached, but still, apps have no access to SD Card.
Anyone knows if there is a write fix similar t the one that was available on the Note4/Kitkat?
don't think so, even if you did the app most likely would not work properly unless you knew how to optimise it yourself and it doesn't sound like you do
leave apps on internal memory and keep music/video/pictures on sd card (get a good one)
way less head ache
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don't think so, even if you did the app most likely would not work properly unless you knew how to optimise it yourself and it doesn't sound like you do
leave apps on internal memory and keep music/video/pictures on sd card (get a good one)
way less head ache
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This has nothing with app optimization. Apps give you the choice of storage location, the problem, external SD doesn't show up. Back in the days, there was a "write fix" to be flashed to give apps access to external storage under kit Kat, I think.
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This has nothing with app optimization. Apps give you the choice of storage location, the problem, external SD doesn't show up. Back in the days, there was a "write fix" to be flashed to give apps access to external storage under kit Kat, I think.
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I know it isn't exactly app optimisation but was trying to explain in an easy to understand way that it is not possible like the same way it was back in note 2 and 3 days
There is a way to do it but I haven't tried. Something along the lines of making your SD card "Adaptive Storage". Did some research on it a few months ago and it's honestly more trouble than it's worth. 64gbs isn't enough for some of the apps I would like to keep on my phone but I've managed to just keep it to the bare essentials.
Since Android 6.0, Google has tighten the 3rd party apps freedom or movement