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[Q] Need to know a bit more about my phone

It's been 9 months since I've been in the android scene. Waited for the xperia s1/compact that never came to the US. Had been using an old spare iphone.
So I caved and got a moto x on craigslist as I couldn't take it any more, but didn't want to waste my upgrade options.
I had to add a different imei to get LTE on my moto x on at&t as well.
If you guys could help me understand exactly what i have, and what I should do to get the most out of my moto x that would be great and I would really appreciate it. Also if it's safe to root this.
The only thing I can figure out is that it has a Rogers flash on it. Don't know what that would mean to me. I do have the box if that helps.
android version 4.4.2
baseband:
msm8960pro_bp_2323.031.111.00r
kernel version
3.4.42-g7a3369f
[email protected]#1
system version
161.44.26.ghost_row.rci.en.ca
build number
kxa20.16-1.26
imei
lol just kidding

If its rogers firmware, its probably a rogers xt1058. Unless its already rooted....then who knows what's been flashed. Actually, it doesn't need to be rooted to flash firmware...so that doesn't help. Did you buy it in/from Canada??
People made messes of their phones being too impatient to wait for their phones 4.4.2.....and Rogers was one of the first 4.4.2 versions out, so I guess your phone could be anything.
You need to find out for sure somehow. One bonus, if it is a Rogers model, is that you can unlock the boot loader. If its actually an at&t phone....then you can't.
What that means is , its stuck with 4.4.2 now, so if you can unlock boot loader, great....you can root. If you can't unlock the boot loader, then you can't root 4.4.2 as of today....and you're stuck.
Call Motorola with the serial number, they should be able to tell you what it is!!??
I'd find out what phone it is for sure, and flash its proper firmware anyway. But then again, if it works now...maybe no point.
Good luck!!
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....

[Q] Moto X AT&T stock version, does it come with a lock?

Hi guys,
total n00b question.
A friend of mine brought an AT&T Moto X (1st generation) phone with him for me from the U.S. to Germany.
He bought it from the motorola.com page directly 2 years ago through the Thanksgiving promo, never got it activated and its still stock and everything, never used before.
He paid the full retail price of 400$ at the time, does it however still come with a sim/netlock?
I thought since it didn't come with a contract (where you pay only a few $ and you are bound to a 1y/2y contract) and he paid the full 400$ for it, it doesn't have any sim/net lock?
Sadly I don't have a nano sim card to try it out, before I order one from my carrier I was hoping someone could help me out with this
I know that simlock threads are not allowed, I'm not asking for an unlock, just whether a retail 400$ phone has that lock or not?
Thanks in advance!

If it's stock and on 4.4.2 or below, invest in Sunshine to unlock your bootloader. I'm not sure if AT&T sim-locked their Moto Xs. They should provide the code for free, if necessary, though since the phone was paid in full.

Thanks for the quick reply, already looked into SuneShine for unlocking the BL (its a shame that I didn't pick the T-Mobile version over the AT&T, hmm)
But worth spending another 25$ for it!
Now I'm still curious about the sim/netlock.
From what I found out by googling and reading for hours, if it has a simlock, AT&T will not unlock it cause I've never been a customer and it never was hooked up to an AT&T account, kinda bad if you ask me for a full price cell phone... The T-Mobile version comes 100% sim and BL unlocked...
Moto chat support cant help, they didn't even know that there are different versions of the Moto X 1st Gen...

It's usually less than 20 dollars to unlock them on a website that offers Sim unlocking. Not sure if at&t devices are usually OK to do so, but I would think they are. The carriers usually charge more even... In Canada anyway. ?

OK, thanks a lot!
I'm really just surprised that if you pay the full retail price for a phone it can still be sim/netlocked...
Hope you guys don't mind asking me another few questions, I'm just transiting over from my Razr I so a few things are different
If I don't need a custom recovery but planning on installing a different official Moto firmware which is signed by Moto (would love to flash the EU firmware to have full German language support) do I still need to unlock the BL or will this work with a locked BL since its an official Moto firmware?
Also are there any files I should not flash, therefore remove from the xml?
And I know that the BL unlock has nothing to do with the sim unlock, but any change if I unlock the BL and flash a different firmware, I won't need to enter a sim unlock code then?
I'm just trying to get as many answers before I try it and find out the "hard" way it won't work and that it results in a completely bricked device in the end...
AND sorry, but another question
Are the LTE bands hardware or software coded? Cause we use different bands over here in Europe and I know from the Sony Z1C you can activate all bands software-wise, so I was thinking maybe its the same with the Moto X?
Thanks again!

Hello, I was wondering if I also could install a pure Android on my at&t Moto X 2014?
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mmaslo1124 said:
Hello, I was wondering if I also could install a pure Android on my at&t Moto X 2014?
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Wrong section, This is the 2013 section. And this thread has nothing to do with your question, that's called thread hijacking.
So you should go to the Moto X 2014 section, and if you don't see a thread on the same sort of topic.... Then post your own thread in the Q&A section. ?

So I read an insane number of pages and somewhere I found this great page:
https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/?#/
Long story short, I reveived a nano sim card today, AT&T Moto X is locked, contacted AT&T via the above mentioned website, it took 2 days and today I received my sim unlock code via email from AT&T for free, no account with them needed and it works!

dagoban said:
If I don't need a custom recovery but planning on installing a different official Moto firmware which is signed by Moto (would love to flash the EU firmware to have full German language support) do I still need to unlock the BL or will this work with a locked BL since its an official Moto firmware?
Also are there any files I should not flash, therefore remove from the xml?
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With the bootloader on the ATT XT1058 being locked, you'll only be able to flash Moto Signed Roms for your phone's CID or carrier branding. You will not be able to flash the XT1052 EU rom, or other X roms. Only the ATT XT1058.
If you are lucky and your ATT XT1058 has not yet been upgraded to Android 4.4.4 and bootoader 30.B7, you should be able to use JCase's Sunshine tool to unlock the bootloader. Note: Because this is a HACK, do NOT try to re-lock the bootloader after using it, or you will be permanently bootloader locked.
dagoban said:
And I know that the BL unlock has nothing to do with the sim unlock, but any change if I unlock the BL and flash a different firmware, I won't need to enter a sim unlock code then?
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I don't believe flashing a different ROM would give you SIM unlock.
You're only option is getting it from the Carrier if you meet their terms/conditions. Or buying a SIM unlock code from an online seller.
dagoban said:
AND sorry, but another question
Are the LTE bands hardware or software coded? Cause we use different bands over here in Europe and I know from the Sony Z1C you can activate all bands software-wise, so I was thinking maybe its the same with the Moto X?
Thanks again!
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I've read different things. So I can't say for sure which is correct.
I know that the Verizon X, XT1060, initially game supporting only LTE Band 13. Band 4 was later enabled by firmware update.
But I've also seen posts of some losing their entire cellular radio when flashing other model's full roms, and not getting it back by flashing the correct rom. (I don't recall the full details, sorry!).
On other phones, I've seen things like "edits" to turn on other bands. But no so for the 2013 X.
So I wouldn't mess with it.

Thanks for the explanations @KidJoe
Until know I didn't know that a signed Moto firmware is not just bound to the model but also to a CID, always thought you could flash any region firmware over the phone as long as its the same model.
Sunshine is def. an option, I didn't take the OTA (even thou it reminds me at least once a day cause I suspected already there would be more exploits available with a lower android OS.
SIM unlock is no problem anymore, AT&T provided me the unlock key via website request (took me a while to find that link, thou) and you don't need to have an account with them and the phone does NOT need to be hooked to an AT&T contract.
About the LTE bands:
OK, I don't want to mess with the modem / radio and lose all bands in the end but could I just flash the system files from the EU version via fastboot?
Which files should I flash and which files should I avoid flashing?
Basicially what I'm trying to achieve is getting German as android language and not just have German as keyboard language.
Or is German included in the CM11 as well cause then I imagine it would be much easier to just flash CM11 without damaging any bands...
All in all, I'm just looking for a fully stable KK OS that is in German
Thanks again for your replies!

dagoban said:
About the LTE bands:
OK, I don't want to mess with the modem / radio and lose all bands in the end but could I just flash the system files from the EU version via fastboot?
Which files should I flash and which files should I avoid flashing?
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You could try using mFastboot and flash only System.img... BUT!!!! Its going to cause issues with OTA updates, and having mismatched parts always increases the risks for bricking and/or things just not working correctly!! So I usually don't recommend mixing things up.
dagoban said:
Basicially what I'm trying to achieve is getting German as android language and not just have German as keyboard language.
Or is German included in the CM11 as well cause then I imagine it would be much easier to just flash CM11 without damaging any bands...
All in all, I'm just looking for a fully stable KK OS that is in German
Thanks again for your replies!
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I've not messed with adding additional languages. Nor have I used CM as I like my Moto features too much, and stock (rooted) runs just fine here.

[Q] Lollipop For AT&T Moto X 2014

Is there a way to force the update for android lollipop to the AT&T variant. I bought a AT&T Moto X used and got it carrier unlock. Is there any way to get AT&T to just let Motorola to update my phone it is basically not their locked phone any more. Is there a pure edition stock image that can work perfectly fine to flash on to my device and yes i seen the person who was able to flash the pure edition stock image but had to flash some extra stuff but is there another easier thing that works. AT&T should let people who unlock their phone decide if they get update or not. Thank guys.

No. You need to wait until it's pushed to your phone. The AT&T variant does not have an unlockable bootloader, ergo you are at their mercy for updates. You should have bought the Pure edition.

Having issue with 4.2.2 JB. update need help

Just got my Moto x Verizon branded and came with 4.2.2 JB. For some reason when I hit the update it says I'm on the latest firmware. Any idea what's going on here. Im currently situated in Dubai but not sure how that would have anything to do with it. Any help?
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yes, update moto update services via playstore. I dont own a vz X but I suggest you check your bootloder unlock option if interested before updating.

Yes root and unlock it now, because 4.4.4 root isn't quite ideal yet.
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bushako said:
Just got my Moto x Verizon branded and came with 4.2.2 JB. For some reason when I hit the update it says I'm on the latest firmware. Any idea what's going on here. Im currently situated in Dubai but not sure how that would have anything to do with it. Any help?
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Did you buy it used? If yes, then its possible that the previous owner rooted and disabled the OTA update check. Especially if this is NOT a Developer Edition for Verizon.
Now, if it was purchased new, or the original owner didn't disable the OTA update check, then its likely because you are not on Verizon's network. I've seen this happen on my BB Z10, galaxy S4 and S5, and my Moto X, when running wth my t-mobile sims or on wifi. They will always say either no update found (90% of the time), or Update service not available (10% of the time). I must put my Verizon SIM in to download the update.
Since both the Developer and Non-Developer XT1060 for Verizon use the same ROMs you can download and manually flash the SFB/FXZ files from Moto Directly... -> HERE If you have the Non-Developer XT1060 and you want to unlock the bootloader, do NOT flash anything newer than 4.4.2!!
Use the link in my signature about the Risks of Downgrading to confirm your phone's bootloader version to get a better understanding of your phone's state.
IF you want to root and disable write protection going forward, you need to unlock the bootloader, and you do NOT have the developer edition for Verizon, the only option for that would be to use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader BEFORE you upgrade it to 4.4.4 or higher. For more... see HERE

KidJoe said:
Did you buy it used? If yes, then its possible that the previous owner rooted and disabled the OTA update check. Especially if this is NOT a Developer Edition for Verizon.
Now, if it was purchased new, or the original owner didn't disable the OTA update check, then its likely because you are not on Verizon's network. I've seen this happen on my BB Z10, galaxy S4 and S5, and my Moto X, when running wth my t-mobile sims or on wifi. They will always say either no update found (90% of the time), or Update service not available (10% of the time). I must put my Verizon SIM in to download the update.
Since both the Developer and Non-Developer XT1060 for Verizon use the same ROMs you can download and manually flash the SFB/FXZ files from Moto Directly... -> HERE If you have the Non-Developer XT1060 and you want to unlock the bootloader, do NOT flash anything newer than 4.4.2!!
Use the link in my signature about the Risks of Downgrading to confirm your phone's bootloader version to get a better understanding of your phone's state.
IF you want to root and disable write protection going forward, you need to unlock the bootloader, and you do NOT have the developer edition for Verizon, the only option for that would be to use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader BEFORE you upgrade it to 4.4.4 or higher. For more... see HERE
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I got it brand new sealed box cost approx $122 16GB, so no chance of it being rooted. I'm glad that it's still JB, read that part of 4.4.4 being not unlockable at the moment. So I just made the payment for Sunshine now waiting for either of the devs to wake up and send me those sweet digits to unlock. The phone came with a Verizon sim card in it but I get a message saying its unrecognizable but that's okay It's customs roms all the way for me from here.
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@bushako @hbenz2008 @metaljr81 @KidJoe
You are all now in a new thread.

A bit of help here please? (not sure if I'm understanding correctly...)

So, I'm still in the process of skimming appropriate threads and trying to nail down what's appropriate for me and what isn't;
I have two Verizon Moto X 2014 that are new sitting in the box running Kit Kat 4.4.
Am I to understand (based on the various posts up and down this forum),
I have the potential to pay for a temp root, then pay for Sunshine Bootloader Unlock tool.
With the phone(s) unlocked, flash them up to a Moto X 2014 Pure image, and flash back the Verizon modems so that they would work on the Verizon network? (Though, from what I read last, the latest Moto X Pure images have modems that work on all networks?)
If so (and for now, it's a big if...)
What's the prevent me from losing my IMEI numbers so that Verizon would actually allow the phones on the network?

Wongdirection said:
So, I'm still in the process of skimming appropriate threads and trying to nail down what's appropriate for me and what isn't;
I have two Verizon Moto X 2014 that are new sitting in the box running Kit Kat 4.4.
Am I to understand (based on the various posts up and down this forum),
I have the potential to pay for a temp root, then pay for Sunshine Bootloader Unlock tool.
With the phone(s) unlocked, flash them up to a Moto X 2014 Pure image, and flash back the Verizon modems so that they would work on the Verizon network? (Though, from what I read last, the latest Moto X Pure images have modems that work on all networks?)
If so (and for now, it's a big if...)
What's the prevent me from losing my IMEI numbers so that Verizon would actually allow the phones on the network?
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You are correct about almost everything.
Do not flash the xt1095 firmware. The xt1095 pure is compatible with all GSM netowrks. The problem is that verizon uses CDMA not GSM. To put things basically, if you flash the pure edition firmware, no calls and no network connection.
If you want to unlock your bootloader do it now. If you upgrade to 5.1 lollipop it becomes impossible to unlock the bootloader.
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Wongdirection said:
So, I'm still in the process of skimming appropriate threads and trying to nail down what's appropriate for me and what isn't;
I have two Verizon Moto X 2014 that are new sitting in the box running Kit Kat 4.4.
Am I to understand (based on the various posts up and down this forum),
I have the potential to pay for a temp root, then pay for Sunshine Bootloader Unlock tool.
With the phone(s) unlocked, flash them up to a Moto X 2014 Pure image, and flash back the Verizon modems so that they would work on the Verizon network? (Though, from what I read last, the latest Moto X Pure images have modems that work on all networks?)
If so (and for now, it's a big if...)
What's the prevent me from losing my IMEI numbers so that Verizon would actually allow the phones on the network?
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AFAIK, you don't need to pay for the temproot if you're on 4.4. You should be able to still use Kingroot(?) to root on Kitkat for free, then pay for the sunshine unlock.

intx said:
AFAIK, you don't need to pay for the temproot if you're on 4.4. You should be able to still use Kingroot(?) to root on Kitkat for free, then pay for the sunshine unlock.
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Kingroot or TowelRoot should work, depending on kernel build date and what exploits are available. They wouldn't temp root. It would be full root. And then sunshine unlock and be done!
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