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Is it possible to use the captivate (2010 year models) on Wind Mobile in Canada? I have a rooted and unlocked phone, but when I put a Wind Mobile SIM in the phone, it did not seem to show any service of any kind.
I do understand the phone is not capable of AWS, and I don't really care id I can get any data anyway, just voice would be great since I have wifi availble most of the times when I need it anyway.
I am willing to load whatever ROMs, modems, etc to get it working if its even possible.
Thanks!
No sorry, that's not possible. Try the T-Mobile version, unless you'd like to be roaming on Rogers all the time
you need APN settings for wind.call them and get them
So a rogers captivate will work on wind?
With the right APN settings I dont see why not.
False, it doesn't have the right frequencies to get reception.
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LagunaCid said:
False, it doesn't have the right frequencies to get reception.
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Just to confirm, I can't even use my captivate on Wind even for voice only calling. Just want to make sure since this APN talk I figured was for data which I know won't work since its 1700/2100 AWS.
I only want to use Wind since there voice plans are so cheap, but I can not afford another phone at the moment.
Hi Everyone,
I've been reading the reviews and specs for the MI5 Pro and am considering purchasing one. GSM/CDMA support, 128Gb Storage, etc. sounds great to me.
My plan is to have something with an unlocked BL so I can root, TWRP, and AOSP it just the way I want it.
Before I do how much of a pain will it be to getting working on Verizon's 4G/LTE networks? If I understand what I am reading correctly it supports all the frequency bands on Big Red. Any thoughts? Comments and suggestions are requested on this.
Thanks in Advance
I should also add this is not for the BYOD (Bring Your Own Device) program. I have a monthly plan and am up for a new device but don't want what they offer.
I highly doubt you'll be able to get it to work on Verizon. Even unlocking GSM bands is a pain.
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VZW is CDMA. The specs say it supports all the needed bands I just don't know if they are "active" out of the box.
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VZW is CDMA. The specs say it supports all the needed bands I just don't know if they are "active" out of the box.
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I don't specifically know about verizon, but our local CDMA carriers do work with the Mi5.
Cdma carriers the us only allows approved devices.
No hope.
FernBch said:
VZW is CDMA. The specs say it supports all the needed bands I just don't know if they are "active" out of the box.
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You can be the guniea pig and try it out but your chances of getting it to work on Verizon are slim to none.
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The more I research this the more dim the results look. It seems that the problem with bringing it to a CDMA network is lack of 4G functionality. Definitely a deal breaker for sure......
Verizon only allows approved devices on their network (read: their branded devices). So there's pretty much no chance of your Mi5 (an unapproved, semi-compatible, and untested device as far as they are concerned) getting on the network, as your MEID needs to be in their system for you to connect to their network.
Stick with an actual GSM carrier.
Duwenbasden said:
Verizon only allows approved devices on their network (read: their branded devices). So there's pretty much no chance of your Mi5 (an unapproved, semi-compatible, and untested device as far as they are concerned) getting on the network, as your MEID needs to be in their system for you to connect to their network.
Stick with an actual GSM carrier.
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I knew that was how they were in the past but I thought maybe they loosened up on it. They now have a Bring Your Own Device program. Still doesn't get past getting 4G working flawlessly on CDMA.
I need to look deeper at GSM carriers in the US. Coverage in my area is important for work.
I just saw you message and it is a bit late, but I have the Mi5 and use it on Verizon. It is only 3G on that. I can also use both my Verizon Sim card and my AT&T sim at the same time and have two carriers with two different numbers on the same phone. I had to do nothing to get it to work on Verizon other than pop in the sim card. I hope this helps.
Thanks DFSPCC, I was wondering the same thing and having it listed to work with VZN in the US on willmyphonework.net up to 3G speeds, which is fine by me. Considering the low price at the moment for the Mi5, I think is a great option.
Never to late
I'm considering on getting this phone... 5.7 inch with OK specs to work with Verizon only thing is you said 3g but that's OK its just to play and test hopefully I can root it... Don't knkw if they have any Roms for it..... Ive been HTC for over 10 yrs and they have let me down been waiting for a 5.7 or bigger... The max was nice but bad specs realy slow so.... I was going to do the s8 plus but now I see the U12 coming soon. But i don't know if Verizon will carry it... They don't carry the U11 don't know why.... What do you think? And thanks again for your time and help god bless....
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I just saw you message and it is a bit late, but I have the Mi5 and use it on Verizon. It is only 3G on that. I can also use both my Verizon Sim card and my AT&T sim at the same time and have two carriers with two different numbers on the same phone. I had to do nothing to get it to work on Verizon other than pop in the sim card. I hope this helps.
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Do NOT buy this phone in the US unless Sony gets its phones approved to work with T-Mobile & AT&T
Sadly Sony is the only phone maker that offers a NORMAL sized phone with the Compact series.
Please show me ANY other options for an Android phone with a 4.6"-4.8" screen with a good camera. THERE ARE NONE! The battery life is also beyond incredible. I easily get 1+ (up to 2) days battery life with heavy usage. Standby time (screen off) is easily 7 days (no greenify or any of that crap needed).
I have a Sony Xperia X Compact and it is the BEST ANDROID PHONE I have ever had.
Despite that I have to say that NOBODY SHOULD BUY ANY SONY PHONES.
The phone is awesome and supports pretty much any 3G and 4G band out there but Sony refuses to get these phones approved by AT&T and T-Mobile for VoLTE.
That means (for T-Mobile as an example) that the Xperia X Compact technically supports T-Mobile's super-duper Band 12 LTE which has almost better coverage than Verizon, BUT because the phone is not approved for VoLTE, Sony phones will almost immediately get disconnected from that T-Mobile tower. You may be standing next to someone with an approved phone that has 100% coverage, yet the Sony Xperia phones will show NO RECEPTION.
Sony phones should be able to at least connect to Band 12 for data but they don't. It may technically have the ability to connect to Band 12 and even use VoLTE, but the tower refusal to keep the connection. Sony then apparently also screwed up the band prioritization, because Sony phones even have issues connecting to non VoLTE networks (eg Band 4).
As a result, ALL SONY PHONES ARE PRETTY MUCH UNUSABLE on T-Mobile and AT&T AS A PHONE.
Do NOT buy any Sony phones if you want to use them on T-Mobile and AT&T, though I can tell you that they are the BEST phones otherwise - just not as a phone.
This is pathetic and there is no response from Sony.
But the press releases say these 2 phones will work with t-mobile VOLTE and WiFi Calling.
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But the press releases say these 2 phones will work with t-mobile VOLTE and WiFi Calling.
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Yea it will.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...z1-compact-support-t-mobile-wifi-calling.html
Lol yes first compact phone they certified I think. If someone figures out how to retain the volte functions and gain fingerprint sensor, I'm in.
I've had several Sony phones (Z1C, Z3, Z5C, all international single-SIM versions) and since at least the Z3, they all supported LTE on AT&T. I'm not sure anything changed since the Z5 era, so I'm hoping the XZ1C works fine on AT&T.
Can someone confirm this phone will work on at&t in the us? God I want it to do bad.
texaslegend said:
Can someone confirm this phone will work on at&t in the us? God I want it to do bad.
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Unproven rumors that it will be voLTE certified. NO CONFIRMATION FROM SONY OR T-MOBILE.
Even so, you won't be able to use the fingerprint sensor, since the international ROM won't support it.
Do NOT buy!!!!
Cool story but I'll be buying. Can't wait!
Btw, it also not confirmed that it WON'T work. Don't you think it would be a good idea to wait and see.
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It seems you have some sort of personal agenda against Sony and/or this particular phone. An idealistic preference for what network(s) should be supported.
I don't know that I care if VoLTE is possible. I want to know if I can make/receive calls, text, access data for app and internet use.
The fingerprint scanner is irrelevant for me, it's there or not.
So simply said, will this work on US networks although some features may not be compatible.
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Should be fine like every other Sony Compact I've had. Best Buy and Amazon will be selling it here shortly so one would logically assume they would be US carrier compatible in terms of calling/ data. I could give a crap about VoLTE.
From what I understand T-Mobile was sued a few years ago when someone couldn't make a 911 call in an area where there was only Band 12 LTE (since Band 12 goes through walls better than the 1900 MHz 2G and 1700 MHz 3G that T-Mo uses, apparently legally you are better off with no cell service than with only data service), because of that lawsuit T-Mobile asked phone makers to disable Band 12 on US devices that do not have VoLTE. (I can't post a source because I'm a new member but you can google this). It looks like the Band 12 blocking is done at the phone firmware level, not from T-Mobiles end, so there is a decent chance that the European firmware will not have Band 12 disabled. Though it will most likely also not support VoLTE on T-Mobile. You should still get good LTE data, you just might have to drop back to 3G or 2G for calls.
That said, this would need to be tested. It would be a shame if you had to choose between band 12 coverage without the fingerprint sensor, or a fingerprint sensor with band 12 coverage.
Either way I'm pretty psyched for this phone. I wish there was more competition in this space, but since Sony is the only game in town when it comes to non-phablet smartphones we really don't have much of a choice do we?
Phones re in and ... I am sadly correct.
Maybe if people spent more time to complain to T-Mobile, Sony, the FCC, the FTC and their Senator/congressman we would not have this issue.
Cell phone networks were supposed to let unlocked phones on ... VoLTE violates that.
Currently using my phone on tmobile just fine.
Getting LTE for data and no voice disconnects.
Could care less about volte; most people don't use their phones to talk anymore, myself included. Normal voice works fine for my needs. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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That said, this would need to be tested. It would be a shame if you had to choose between band 12 coverage without the fingerprint sensor, or a fingerprint sensor with band 12 coverage.
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Sadly, some of us do.
theplasmastorm said:
Currently using my phone on tmobile just fine.
Getting LTE for data and no voice disconnects.
Could care less about volte; most people don't use their phones to talk anymore, myself included. Normal voice works fine for my needs. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Dont assume too much. Since band 12 is much better than bands 2 and 4 in many ways, t-mobile is often not only adding band 12 but using it to replace bands 2 and 4 (kinda makes sense, why would you upkeep obsolete bands). I have had T-Mobile for about a year with an older unlocked phone and they recently switched to a lot of band 12 all over my area/region and now I have lots of total deadzones (including my house). I need to be able to make/receive phone calls, as I'm sure many do. But, for your point, I do still have data, sometimes, it seems to be much weaker a lot of the time compared to what it used to though, but maybe that's just me. I recall coming across a list of cities/places where t-mobile plans to switch things to band 12 and the timeline.
Edit: I am not sure this was the exact article I originally viewed, but here's a link < http://www.prepaidphonenews.com/2017/07/tmo-lte-spectrum-update.html?m=1 >.
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Currently using my phone on tmobile just fine.
Getting LTE for data and no voice disconnects.
Could care less about volte; most people don't use their phones to talk anymore, myself included. Normal voice works fine for my needs. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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So to clarify, if it doesn’t have VoLTE, it just drops to LTE?
So if I flash UK firmware to get the fingerprint scanner (with AT&T) I just get LTE?
I don’t see why this is such a huge issue then, at least for me where I live I’ve never seen anyone with anything more than LTE anyway, it’ll be just business as usual. I also don’t make many phone calls so this doesn’t seem like anything that will hurt me with this phone one bit.
kobold98 said:
So to clarify, if it doesn’t have VoLTE, it just drops to LTE?
So if I flash UK firmware to get the fingerprint scanner (with AT&T) I just get LTE?
I don’t see why this is such a huge issue then, at least for me where I live I’ve never seen anyone with anything more than LTE anyway, it’ll be just business as usual. I also don’t make many phone calls so this doesn’t seem like anything that will hurt me with this phone one bit.
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To clarify,
On AT&T, with US firmware, you can:
1] You get LTE data.
2] You can make calls over GSM or UMTS, but not over LTE. This will also drop your data rate to 3G if you are using voice and data simultaneously.
3] You get no fingerprint reader.
On AT&T, with European firmware, you can:
1] You get LTE data.
2] You can make calls over GSM or UMTS, but not over LTE. This will also drop your data rate to 3G if you are using voice and data simultaneously.
3] You get a working fingerprint reader.
The VoLTE certification and modem configurations are only for T-Mobile on US firmware and other operators on specific, non-US firmware variants.
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To clarify,
On AT&T, with US firmware, you can:
1] You get LTE data.
2] You can make calls over GSM or UMTS, but not over LTE. This will also drop your data rate to 3G if you are using voice and data simultaneously.
3] You get no fingerprint reader.
On AT&T, with European firmware, you can:
1] You get LTE data.
2] You can make calls over GSM or UMTS, but not over LTE. This will also drop your data rate to 3G if you are using voice and data simultaneously.
3] You get a working fingerprint reader.
The VoLTE certification and modem configurations are only for T-Mobile on US firmware and other operators on specific, non-US firmware variants.
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Thank you so much, it’s been hard to find a totally clear picture of this. As someone who doesn’t make a lot of phone calls (but does rely on LTE data) and never uses data during phone calls it sounds like I’ll be good to go with European firmware.
Thank you, that is a good summary for a fellow AT&T user. But one thing I am curious about. Does AT&T have VoLTE at all? Or is tmo the only one with that ability? Basically, if I bought a totally different phone specifically for AT&T would I get VoLTE?
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Thank you, that is a good summary for a fellow AT&T user. But one thing I am curious about. Does AT&T have VoLTE at all? Or is tmo the only one with that ability? Basically, if I bought a totally different phone specifically for AT&T would I get VoLTE?
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AT&T only offers VoLTE (they brand it: HD Voice) via their own branded handsets (ones bought through them) or any iPhone 6 or newer (as i recall).
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Phones re in and ... I am sadly correct.
Maybe if people spent more time to complain to T-Mobile, Sony, the FCC, the FTC and their Senator/congressman we would not have this issue.
Cell phone networks were supposed to let unlocked phones on ... VoLTE violates that.
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Have you?
I'm not really new to this. I would always buy the phones, then root them when root was available. My question is if I buy the unlocked version and have it on Verizon, does anyone know what features won't work? Like I believe wifi calling on tmobile won't. But what about Verizon?
I THINK similarly, HD calling and Wifi calling won't work. I remember this from other discussions of unlocked Galaxy devices on Verizon.
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I THINK similarly, HD calling and Wifi calling won't work. I remember this from other discussions of unlocked Galaxy devices on Verizon.
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Ok, thanks.... That is the problem I'm having cause I don't know about that part. Like I said, I normally just buy the phones then root them when root is available, but the s8 never got it or it took so long I didn't worry about it anymore. But I'm going overseas soon and would like to just swap sims and not worry about international charges
HD calling and volte should work. wifi calling a visual voicemail won't. check Samsungs page for compatibility.
my pixel 2 unlocked has EVERYTHING working on Verizon tho. dunno why.
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Features you lose with unlocked phone on verizon network.
Visual Voicemail (VVM)
LTE Video Calling
Enhanced Address Book
VoWiFi (WiFi calling)
Family Base
Family Locator
that's worth it. no big deal except maybe wifi calling.
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no way, cellular trash store will offer you phone with unlocked bootloader.
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I'm not really new to this. I would always buy the phones, then root them when root was available. My question is if I buy the unlocked version and have it on Verizon, does anyone know what features won't work? Like I believe wifi calling on tmobile won't. But what about Verizon?
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I have an unlocked S9+ on Verizon prepaid. Everything works fine including VoLTE and WiFi Calling. The only thing that doesn't is Visual Voicemail, but that's because I'm on prepaid. I'm sure the S10 will be the same.
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I have an unlocked S9+ on Verizon prepaid. Everything works fine including VoLTE and WiFi Calling. The only thing that doesn't is Visual Voicemail, but that's because I'm on prepaid. I'm sure the S10 will be the same.
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Does Video Calling work on the unlocked s9+ on Verizon?
My unlocked note 9 on Verizon didn't have any features except HD calling and VoLTE. I worked with Verizon tech support forever, they couldn't figure it out. They indicated it was a Samsung issue. Samsung said it was a Verizon issue. I sold it on swappa then got a Verizon branded one because I need WiFi calling and texting.
I really hope my unlocked S10 plus isn't the same.
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My unlocked note 9 on Verizon didn't have any features except HD calling and VoLTE. I worked with Verizon tech support forever, they couldn't figure it out. They indicated it was a Samsung issue. Samsung said it was a Verizon issue. I sold it on swappa then got a Verizon branded one because I need WiFi calling and texting.
I really hope my unlocked S10 plus isn't the same.
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You could've flashed the VZ fw onto the U1. I converted my TMO Note to U1/XAA for better battery. Knox isn't tripped by signed packages.
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Does Video Calling work on the unlocked s9+ on Verizon?
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I think Video Calling and Visual Voice Mail are for Post-Paid accounts only. I'm on Pre-Paid.
Plus I can use one of several other apps to video call, so I don't miss it. VoLTE and WiFi calling work great.
I can confirm that Wi-Fi calling IS indeed working on my unlocked S10+ on Verizon. Imagine that! The only thing I'm missing is Verizon's native video calling but that feature is so useless that it's not even worth mentioning.
Also, this thread is helpful describing all the features that work on Verizon:
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S10/Unlocked-Galaxy-S10-and-Verizon-Functionality/td-p/464884
I have unlocked Samsung galaxy S10 SM-G973U1 (although on the box it said G973U)
So my question is how to change it to SM-G973U for wifi-calling to work on AT&T? and if I change it to the required version, is there a guarantee that wifi calling will work?
I believe you have to change the firmware so the system thinks it is an AT&T branded unit? My unlocked GS10 has wifi calling when i use it on T-Mobile or Verizon but has never worked on AT&T ..I hope someone can help you with the proper steps to change as i am not sure
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AT&T disallows Wi-Fi calling on the factory unlocked S10. The IMEI of those units will never be provisioned since they are barred from AT&T exclusive features.
My advice is to ditch AT&T.
Agree with monkeydroid as I just ported my service over to Verizon and now I have WiFi calling and VoLTE AND much better call clarity and coverage, use same unlocked GS10
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I have a galaxy s10 unlocked U1 though and not just the U. I'm reading that it can be flashed by someone on here and I can. Get it working again, I'm willing to pay for so help. It would be greatly appreciated
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Agree with monkeydroid as I just ported my service over to Verizon and now I have WiFi calling and VoLTE AND much better call clarity and coverage, use same unlocked GS10
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Better yet, use an MVNO instead and save money. I was on VZ before, but switched to Total Wireless and have been very happy. Same towers, half the price ($60 for 2 lines)...
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Better yet, use an MVNO instead and save money. I was on VZ before, but switched to Total Wireless and have been very happy. Same towers, half the price ($60 for 2 lines)...
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Hear Hear!
2nd this very much. I use Mint Mobile (t-mo mvno), only pay 15 a month (4 gig data), have volte and vowifi, and it does carrier aggregation. Never had a phone that did that before... you get a little plus symbol next to the LTE symbol when it's doing that. The signal is almost always strong in the same spot where other devices almost always had weak signals.