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I love the HD7, but I HATE the “t-mobile” logo. It’s hideous! That logo will 100% make me disregard from dropping any cash on that device.
1) Can I get the European version and use it on t-mobile’s 3G network? I assume the new HD7 does not has hspa+.
2) BTW, why is it that the euro HD2 does not have a carrier logo on it?
anyone? whats do u think?
If the HD7 does launch on a international carrier I'm sure you can unlocks it's sim, but don't expect any Tmo-US 3G. Tmobile USA isn't using the 3G standard everyone is using and has been having a hard time getting support from unlocked devices.
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Do you think it will be able to be unlocked to AT&T in the future?
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Do you think it will be able to be unlocked to AT&T in the future?
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Im intrested in knowing this also. Had my hd2 running edge on us att,but that has got old want 3g or better
Telstra is the answer!
An Australian cellphone company by the nemae of Telstra carries the HD2. Telstra operates their 3G network in the 850mhz band which is the same band that AT&T primarily uses. I curently have been using an unlocked Telstra HTC HD2 (costed me $1000) on AT&T's network for several months now and could not be happier, I had to upgrade the firmware, the phone will not run in the U.S. with stock Telstra firmware.
As for the HTC HD 7, Cnet Australia is reporting it is headed for Telstra in early 2011 here is the link to the article: http://www.cnet.com.au/htc-hd7-339306576.htm . I would hold off buying it up untill more info is on xda about replacing the firmware to make it compatible in the U.S.
not sure about the logo thing, i havnt had or seen a phone in the uk with a carrier logo, im not saying ther isnt, i just havnt seen one.
Every year I have bought a new HTC device, but this time it looks like I don't buy one.
My HD2 can make more than the hd7, WP7 can be ported so I have no advice of buying the HD7
based on my experience with the HD2. O2 UK just branded the software, I suppose it was because this was the first HTC phone that they had without any hadrware rebranding. I imagine it was cheaper for O2 too do it this way.
I expect the HD7 will have an O2 HUB and probably colours. In Europe O2 will be provideing 16GB storeage as opposed to the 8 GB for the unbranded European version.
I expect the phone to be SIM locked like the HD2 but you can get an unlock coade from O2. We shall see
Here in germany all o2 devices are unlocked.
Amazon.de sells a HD7 without branding for 599 euros.
ugh. i just hate branding!
are all uk phones unlocked?
my hd2 was bought in europe unlocked.
id like to have an australia hd7, unbranded, and hope that it will work with att 3g.
lemonspeakers said:
ugh. i just hate branding!
are all uk phones unlocked?
my hd2 was bought in europe unlocked.
id like to have an australia hd7, unbranded, and hope that it will work with att 3g.
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If you buy a UK phone from a carrier (like O2, Vodafone, Orange, T-Mobile, etc.) they will be locked as they are often subsidised by the carrier, although the carrier sometimes unlocks them for no charge if you ask.
In terms of logo use, O2 doesn't seem to brand any of their phones on the outer hardware, they just brand the software. But they seem to be the only one - Vodafone, Orange and T-Mobile over here seem to brand a lot of their phones on the case.
To tell you the truth, that T-Mobile logo looks kinda flashy, makes it seem more elegant... it's pretty funny how you are not purchasing a device and going through such a struggle, just cause it has the company name plastered on the top right corner of the device. Be happy it's not the device name:
The T-Mobile7
lol >.>?
Well... if it's just the Logo you're in luck. T-Mobile, at least in europe, is normally putting there name (and magenta color theme) in every spot possible on device hardware and software.
If you buy it unlocked from europe it will only support the 900 Mhz and 2100 Mhz bands, both of which are not in use in the US. The asian version seems to be the same on that front.
U can look up that information on HTCs homepage in the device specifications.
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Well... if it's just the Logo you're in luck. T-Mobile, at least in europe, is normally putting there name (and magenta color theme) in every spot possible on device hardware and software.
If you buy it unlocked from europe it will only support the 900 Mhz and 2100 Mhz bands, both of which are not in use in the US. The asian version seems to be the same on that front.
U can look up that information on HTCs homepage in the device specifications.
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NOOOOOO!!!
then am I sh*t out of luck then? Is there anyone in the world who uses T-mobile's 3G frequencies that WONT brand "T-mobile" on the HD7?
what are my HD7 options if I DO want data on my phone?
At the moment there are known several 'versions' of the Motorola Droid 3...
My question is: Which version is the best for using in Europe / The Netherlands?
I'm using the Vodafone network here in The Netherlands and I want to buy the best version of this device,
which is fully working and compatible with the HSDPA-network out here, which is 14.4Mbps (at the moment)
So which version is best:
1. Motorola XT883, for sale in China
At the moment there is no information about supported networks, standbytime, prices or (sim)locks...
2. Motorola Droid 3, for sale in the USA with supported networks:
WCDMA 850/1900/2100, CDMA 800/1900, GSM 850/900/1800/1900
HSDPA 10.2 Mbps (Category 9/10), CDMA EV-DO Release A, EDGE Class 12, GPRS Class 12, HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
Standbytime is 300 hours and you can call 550 minutes with it.
Disadvantages of this version:
- It is known that it has got a Verizon-provider(sim)lock
- It supports HSDPA speeds up to 10.2Mbps
- It has got several Verizon bloatware on board
- It has got several Verizon logo's on the outside of the device
Advantage of this version:
- The price, which is only $429,00 if I'm correct
(an unlockcode will cost you about $30 via eBay)
- The (XDA)community, which is probably the best for this version
3. Motorola XT860 4G, for sale in Canada with supported networks:
WCDMA 850/1900/2100, GSM 850/900/1800/1900
HSDPA 14.4 Mbps (Category 9/10), EDGE Class 12, GPRS Class 12, HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
Standbytime is 240 hours and you can call 580 minutes with it.
What is not known about this version at the moment:
- Will this version have a providerlock / simlock?
- Will this version have providerbloatware just like the Droid 3?
- Price for only the phone, without a contract, is unknown?
Advantages of this version:
- It supports HSDPA speeds up to 14.4Mbps
- It hasn't got several logo's of the provider on the outside of the device!
My own conclusion
At the moment I thinks the Motorola XT860 4G is the best option...
And I'm still waiting for the Motorola XT883 specifications offcourse.. What do you think? Thanks in advance!
Several topics on XDA / Droidforums about using the Droid 3 outside the USA:
-Droid 3 in GSM?
-Droid 3 sim unlock discussion
-Droid 3 unlockable
-Droid 3 Verizon vs. Unlocked vs. China version..?
Wonderful topic/questions, and the answers interest me also, for the same Vodafone network, also in Europe.
I am trying to purchase the Droid 3 from USA, at this time.
Also, from where can we buy D3/Milestone 3 in Europe?
The most important network is WCDMA. It will show for you with H or 3.5G mark.
(HSDPA is showing as 3G Mark.
EGPRS is showing as E or 2G
and GPRS is showing as G or 2G.)
If phone is equipped with it, it should work everywhere in Europe. I am planning also this phone. And Verizon brand marks looks good..
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and where from can we buy it? on verizon they said it can be bought only with a 2years contract...
You can buy it without a contract as well from verizon for $459. I just bought it this weekend.
Unfortunatelly, they did not allow a friend of mine to do so..
So any other online store which sends it to europe?
Even if you can buy it, how do you intend to handle SIM unlocking? AFAICS, third party codes are not yet confirmed to work.
The only chance I see right now is to buy on ebay and to convince the seller to obtain the codes from Verizon for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1172521
http://cgi.ebay.com/Unlock-Code-Ver...500?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c5df4bddc
or possibly TURBO SIM?
or perhaps buy it directly from Moto-store, if i were to be in the USA
http://www.store.motorola.com/Motor...dtextbin,subjectbin,color_map,price,size_name
I didn't realize there is already a confirmed third party unlock. Thank you!
its also in the first post of this topic
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-3/158398-droid-3-sim-unlock-discussion.html
So, any of the Canadian or USA version will work fine in Europe? (being unlocked, of course) ?
Just ordered the phone from Motorola store you mentioned above. Have it shipped to Germany with borderlinx. Should work...
Why do you doubt it could work? UMTS band 2100 is good enough for Europe, at least Germany, but I think for most other countries as well. Just the same as with D2G.
I should not choose for the Droid 3 if I were me =p
The disadvantages have I mentioned in the first post.
Bloatware, logo's on the phone, not the best HSDPA speeds..
Okay it will work in Europe, but it's not the 'best version' I think..
HSDPA speeds, OK, technically you are right, this is a real disadvantage -- however I doubt I'd really feel the difference, for many reasons ...
Regarding the bloatware, I will get rid of it with another launcher, like Launcher Pro. Just as with D2G.
And the logo is unobtrusive, at least for me.
Of course it is not the 'best version' -- but available NOW.
@CLB-NL, and what do you chose for Europe? Wait for milestone 3 launched for Eu especially?
and what if i buy the D3 without contract? than it should be sim-unlocked?
Any information regarding the Canada version? like..price..sim- blocked??
Something buying a Milestone 2 taught me, is that the US variant (Droid) will get about eleven thousand times more dev support here.
@ rweb: with installing another launcher you still have got the bloatware!
We have to wait for rootacces and then we can delete that crap!
@ bogdan_wrc: personally I think the XT860 4G is the best version to use at the moment of writing this. Offcourse we have to wait for some answers. Simlock, bloatware, price and so on, but it's just my opinion... And we have to wait for the official Milestone XT883 specs also!
@ Sjael: the support is an advantage of the Droid 3, that's true!
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@ rweb: with installing another launcher you still have got the bloatware!
We have to wait for rootacces and then we can delete that crap!
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But I do not see it anymore, so I don't mind. It may waste some resources, but I don't think this is very much. At least it works out this way on my D2G, and I asume it we be the same with D3.
It will probably work the same =)
And with the standard launcher you also can 'hide' it.
Just create a Verizon folder with all the bloatware apps and don't show / use it.
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Just ordered the phone from Motorola store you mentioned above. Have it shipped to Germany with borderlinx. Should work...
Why do you doubt it could work? UMTS band 2100 is good enough for Europe, at least Germany, but I think for most other countries as well. Just the same as with D2G.
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when i try to buy one, it will only let me use a US address for billing. do borderlinx offer assisted purchasing as well, or am i the only one experiencing this?
trying to order a droid 3 off the US site btw, not a canadian version
Does anyone out there know the model (region) specific LTE configurations?
I just bought an HTC one (waiting for international delivery).. it was model 801n.. I could not find much data on it, but I did find some info at pdadb.net, which suggests that this model has the following LTE bands:
Secondary+Cellular+Phone
Dual-Cellular-Network;Operation: Selectable cellular module
Secondary-Cellular+Networks: LTE700 (B17), LTE850 (B5), LTE1700/2100 (B4), LTE1900 (B2)
Secondary;Cellular;Data-Links: LTE
Secondary+Cellular;Antenna: Internal antenna
Which means it will work on ATT, but I have been unable to validate this. So far HTC has come back with the official - it's a UK market model, so we cant' help you with that, but I have put in a follow up question. hopefully they can help.
I believe the most common model is the 801E, which appears to be the 800 1600 2600 model, which will not work...
It is driving me nuts, as I really took a risk and bought it without confirmation and paid a high price...
Anyone have more/better data?
Many thanks,
Nick
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Does anyone out there know the model (region) specific LTE configurations?
I just bought an HTC one (waiting for international delivery).. it was model 801n.. I could not find much data on it, but I did find some info at pdadb.net, which suggests that this model has the following LTE bands:
Secondary+Cellular+Phone
Dual-Cellular-Network;Operation: Selectable cellular module
Secondary-Cellular+Networks: LTE700 (B17), LTE850 (B5), LTE1700/2100 (B4), LTE1900 (B2)
Secondary;Cellular;Data-Links: LTE
Secondary+Cellular;Antenna: Internal antenna
Which means it will work on ATT, but I have been unable to validate this. So far HTC has come back with the official - it's a UK market model, so we cant' help you with that, but I have put in a follow up question. hopefully they can help.
I believe the most common model is the 801E, which appears to be the 800 1600 2600 model, which will not work...
It is driving me nuts, as I really took a risk and bought it without confirmation and paid a high price...
Anyone have more/better data?
Many thanks,
Nick
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Where did you find it?
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Where did you find it?
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I found it on Ebay, saw they had the box in hand, so confirmed the model and part number, searched like heck to try and figure out what the model number meant. Only found the info listed on the PDADB site.
I also called HTC in Taiwan and contacted the UK and US HTC support sites by email to try and get confirmation of what LTE types is has, but just get official non-answers.. There has to be a document somewhere at HTC with all the model numbers that lists the differences... It is shocking that this cannot be found.
Anyway, seller said he bought it from an official HTC seller in the England (GB).
I am also wondering whether this could be the dev model?? I assume that was released in GB after the carrier launch.
Needless to say I am anxious to figure out what I have actually purchased... And a little pissed off that I cannot find a definitive answer anywhere.
Arrggg.. anyway, it should be here in a day or two, so I will find out soon enough...
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I found it on Ebay, saw they had the box in hand, so confirmed the model and part number, searched like heck to try and figure out what the model number meant. Only found the info listed on the PDADB site.
I also called HTC in Taiwan and contacted the UK and US HTC support sites by email to try and get confirmation of what LTE types is has, but just get official non-answers.. There has to be a document somewhere at HTC with all the model numbers that lists the differences... It is shocking that this cannot be found.
Anyway, seller said he bought it from an official HTC seller in the England (GB).
I am also wondering whether this could be the dev model?? I assume that was released in GB after the carrier launch.
Needless to say I am anxious to figure out what I have actually purchased... And a little pissed off that I cannot find a definitive answer anywhere.
Arrggg.. anyway, it should be here in a day or two, so I will find out soon enough...
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That's frustrating. From the looks of things you should get LTE based on the specs you posted. I'll be following this thread. Thanks!
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nickywaldo said:
Anyway, seller said he bought it from an official HTC seller in the England (GB).
I am also wondering whether this could be the dev model?? I assume that was released in GB after the carrier launch.
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I thought they said the dev edition was U.S. only.
Introducing the HTC One Developer Edition
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The HTC One Developer Edition will be available in limited quantities to customers with a US Zip Code for $649 when the HTC One is released in the United States.
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Model 801n is the uk model for sure, I preordered one from phones4u, a company here sells phones on all network, not sure what's the equivalent in us though. I assume you bought it from someone who did the same as me, since as far as I know, phones4u was the only place you can get the One in the past two weeks, and their phones come unlocked to any network.
But it is definitely not developer version cos it's not available in uk.
If you checked what frequency band the 801n supports and it matches at&t's frequency, then you should be able to use the phone without problem.
So just relax it will all be fine.
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Model 801n is the uk model for sure, I preordered one from phones4u, a company here sells phones on all network, not sure what's the equivalent in us though. I assume you bought it from someone who did the same as me, since as far as I know, phones4u was the only place you can get the One in the past two weeks, and their phones come unlocked to any network.
But it is definitely not developer version cos it's not available in uk.
If you checked what frequency band the 801n supports and it matches at&t's frequency, then you should be able to use the phone without problem.
So just relax it will all be fine.
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Well - it is here and .. no LTE..
I have to figure out whether it really has the secondary LTE radio with the US bands like PDAdb.net says it has.. And how to enable it, if that is the case.
Bitter sweet...
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Well - it is here and .. no LTE..
I have to figure out whether it really has the secondary LTE radio with the US bands like PDAdb.net says it has.. And how to enable it, if that is the case.
Bitter sweet...
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If it's the UK Model then in the US you'll be able to get everything apart from LTE. If you look at the reviews on YouTube, all the models they got were the European versions and they could only get 3G in the US.
Seems like it is mostly working, but the signal is weaker then my optimus g, note 2 and bb z10... And even eight a good signal the data indicator keeps toggling between H and 3G... Anyone know how and if I can optimize the phone for att?
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So I think my phone is build in Mexico i bought it cheap on ebay, unfortunately update seems to be slower outside of US. I just wondering if there is way for me to flash system version to US T-mobile or something?
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So I think my phone is build in Mexico i bought it cheap on ebay, unfortunately update seems to be slower outside of US. I just wondering if there is way for me to flash system version to US T-mobile or something?
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All US
carriers motos are made in the US, all other carriers motos are l made in china. If your bootloader is unlocked then you can almost flash any gsm carriers rom
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Hi guys,
I really want to buy the Moto X, but here in Germany the price for a bamboo one with 32GB ist a whopping 600€. And buying the Moto X for 600€, whereas my Nexus 5 costs 250€ less? Yeah no. In addition, the Nexus 6 will probably be cheaper as well, so I just cant justify spending that much money on the Moto X. Does anyone know, where I could get it cheaper (import etc.)? I mean, if I converted the USD price in euros it would cost 450€. Would really appreciate any suggestions
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Hi guys,
I really want to buy the Moto X, but here in Germany the price for a bamboo one with 32GB ist a whopping 600€. And buying the Moto X for 600€, whereas my Nexus 5 costs 250€ less? Yeah no. In addition, the Nexus 6 will probably be cheaper as well, so I just cant justify spending that much money on the Moto X. Does anyone know, where I could get it cheaper (import etc.)? I mean, if I converted the USD price in euros it would cost 450€. Would really appreciate any suggestions
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Someone mentioned that they were able to buy the Moto X with a key for motomaker at the Phone House (DE site) with free upgrade to either wood or leather.
floepie said:
Someone mentioned that they were able to buy the Moto X with a key for motomaker at the Phone House (DE site) with free upgrade to either wood or leather.
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Its still 580€...
That's full price of the phone...my att model 16gb was $529 I believe. My wife's new iPhone was freaking $850...Nuts
Does anybody know already - is the unbranded european version of moto x (uk, de, fr..) identical to the pure version? I mean does it have the unlockable bootloader?
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Does anybody know already - is the unbranded european version of moto x (uk, de, fr..) identical to the pure version? I mean does it have the unlockable bootloader?
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Yup it is. Only US has different versions due to the carrier stuff. Here its all the pure version
Radixtrator said:
Yup it is. Only US has different versions due to the carrier stuff. Here its all the pure version
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Thanks. Do you know what XT model is European Moto X or which LTE bands are supported? Are there different builds for EU countries like were for previous Moto x? You can't find any useful information on the sellers sites and asking them for help is fruitless. They don't know what they sell.
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Thanks. Do you know what XT model is European Moto X or which LTE bands are supported? Are there different builds for EU countries like were for previous Moto x? You can't find any useful information on the sellers sites and asking them for help is fruitless. They don't know what they sell.
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At this moment the pure edition doesn't support European LTE bands. It only supports bands 2, 4 and 17. Motorola said they will unlock bands 3, 5 and 7 soon via a software update. 3 and 7 are the important ones to Germany.
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Yup it is. Only US has different versions due to the carrier stuff. Here its all the pure version
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But we still don't if it's pure in the sense that the boot loader is unlockable. Can anyone confirm?
Motorola makes amazing phones but on the other hand it' s full of dirty tricks that annoy its customers. Remember that previous version was different for unlocked USA model, European and even Asian model. Does anybody has already new Eropean Moto X and can confirm that it is XT1095 and not 1094 or 1093 model?
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Motorola makes amazing phones but on the other hand it' s full of dirty tricks that annoy its customers. Remember that previous version was different for unlocked USA model, European and even Asian model. Does anybody has already new Eropean Moto X and can confirm that it is XT1095 and not 1094 or 1093 model?
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Huh? 95 pure is USA only. Of what dirty tricks do you speak?
Well, it's a long history of them. Browse Motorola forums. Motorola is far to servile to the operators to the detriement of its own customers. Never truely analyzed whether such a policy pays off. I personally believe that their phones could sell better. It's not normal to not reveil significant parts of specifications for different models, weird mess with lte bands, blocked tethering, voip..
And those are only last issues.