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Am I too poor to be excited about the Note 4?

OK, I guess if I had infinite money, then I'd just go out and buy a new smartphone every year, but unfortunately I'm not. Though I will spend money on tech that I think are important, eg I bought a little xmas prezzie for myself in the form of a 51 inch plasma telly.
It's just that I already have a Note 2. I'd be paying a fair bit of money over 24 months to get a Note 4 and I just don't feel as excited by this piece of new tech as I "should be"? The screen isn't much bigger than the Note 2, which 2 years on still actually does everything I need it to do, though it has inexplicable slowed down a little than it used to be (maybe memory too full).
It just doesn't seem that revolutionary from the Note 2. My last 3 phones were Nokia N86, Samsung Galaxy S2, Samsung Galaxy Note 2. And going to the Note 4 just doesn't as seem as revolutionary as the previous jumps?

I have mucho respect for you! I wish I could make a full 2 year run on a smartphone. I haven't found one that either didn't crash, smash, or just frustrate me to hell and back (or I fried rooting it). I actually liked my LG G2 and wouldn't have upgraded, but it hit the 6 month mark and the digitizer went haywire. 6 months. That's the least time any phone has lasted me. A year is average. So far, I'm not impressed with my Note 4, and may return it within the 14-day period. The battery life is truly unimpressive, the camera has focus problems, it lags all over the place, the interface is so...2010...the only thing that I really do like about it: SAMOLED. The Samsung displays are beautiful, and it doesn't hurt my head at all. My G2 gave me headaches. I may 'downgrade' or just try another device.
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I pulled the triger and after 2 years I switched from Note 2. You right, it is not a big jump like before ( originally switched from HTC G2 to Note 2 ) but there is not coming back to 720p screen for me. This one is a beast.
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I had the note 2 for a full year right when it came out. I sold it after a year to get the g2. After a year with the g2, I'm so glad to be back to the note family, specifically the note 4. This phone is a beast, I can easily see myself keeping this one for a full 2 years!! It's definitely an upgrade over the note 2 by leaps and bound.

keithfrombm said:
i have mucho respect for you! I wish i could make a full 2 year run on a smartphone. I haven't found one that either didn't crash, smash, or just frustrate me to hell and back (or i fried rooting it). I actually liked my lg g2 and wouldn't have upgraded, but it hit the 6 month mark and the digitizer went haywire. 6 months. That's the least time any phone has lasted me. A year is average. So far, i'm not impressed with my note 4, and may return it within the 14-day period. The battery life is truly unimpressive, the camera has focus problems, it lags all over the place, the interface is so...2010...the only thing that i really do like about it: Samoled. The samsung displays are beautiful, and it doesn't hurt my head at all. My g2 gave me headaches. I may 'downgrade' or just try another device.
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i am sorry to say this but you are lying! Troll alert!

I bought the note 2 when it came out and loved it but was getting some usb charge board issues about a month before the note 4 came out, i decided to pre order the note 4 and got it on release day and it's a superb phone the best I've ever owned and a good upgrade from the note 2 I think personally.
The screen alone is amazing.

@Rudy:
What specifically is he lying about?
Some people have reported battery issues, and it is a known fact that TouchWiz is somewhat laggy compared to other launchers/themes. Although it has been getting a lot better in recent versions and IME, I have almost no lag on my phone. Also if you check around quite a few people have been having an issue with their camera and focus issues.
His personal experiences with various phones are his own. Unless you were there to witness his usage of the phones.
Calling someone a troll and a liar without backing it up with verifiable facts from credible industry sources is in very poor form and very un-cool.
So either provide some backup with verifiable links to industry sources to prove him/her wrong, or quietly go on with your life and leave others be.

i upgrade on a 5 yr cycle. went to the note 4 910u from a nokia n8.
camera is slightly better (16mpx ois vs 12mpx), software is much better compared to symbian, storage is more (160GB vs 40GB), wireless charging and bluetooth and screen are better, lag is gone once i enabled dev mode with animations off.
i would not upgrade on less than a 4yr or 5yr cycle. thats the best ROI. if you have a note 2 stay with it until 2017/18.

Lol I cant stay on one phone more than 5 months
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keithfrombm said:
I have mucho respect for you! I wish I could make a full 2 year run on a smartphone. I haven't found one that either didn't crash, smash, or just frustrate me to hell and back (or I fried rooting it). I actually liked my LG G2 and wouldn't have upgraded, but it hit the 6 month mark and the digitizer went haywire. 6 months. That's the least time any phone has lasted me. A year is average. So far, I'm not impressed with my Note 4, and may return it within the 14-day period. The battery life is truly unimpressive, the camera has focus problems, it lags all over the place, the interface is so...2010...the only thing that I really do like about it: SAMOLED. The Samsung displays are beautiful, and it doesn't hurt my head at all. My G2 gave me headaches. I may 'downgrade' or just try another device.
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Well it isn't the same for everyone. For me battery is awesome on this phone 6h non stop heavy usage, over 2 days on moderate - this is double comparing to my previous phone which was Nexus 5. Touchwiz is s#*@= comparing to Google launcher tough, went straight to nova. Basically my opinion is: brilliant piece of hardware and very, very bad software. I hope someday we will get pure android rom.

jeanclaudevandamme said:
OK, I guess if I had infinite money, then I'd just go out and buy a new smartphone every year, but unfortunately I'm not. Though I will spend money on tech that I think are important, eg I bought a little xmas prezzie for myself in the form of a 51 inch plasma telly.
It's just that I already have a Note 2. I'd be paying a fair bit of money over 24 months to get a Note 4 and I just don't feel as excited by this piece of new tech as I "should be"? The screen isn't much bigger than the Note 2, which 2 years on still actually does everything I need it to do, though it has inexplicable slowed down a little than it used to be (maybe memory too full).
It just doesn't seem that revolutionary from the Note 2. My last 3 phones were Nokia N86, Samsung Galaxy S2, Samsung Galaxy Note 2. And going to the Note 4 just doesn't as seem as revolutionary as the previous jumps?
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The simple reason is because you are not fully utilising the Note 2 and hitting the boundaries of the phone itself. If you were hitting the edges you would notice that the extra performance from the Note 4 would be awesome.
I change my phone every few months and the boundary i had was lack of wireless charging on my previous phone (sony z2 32gb 3gb). The Samsung S4 and S5 had terrible camera and the lack of the additional 1GB really hurt.
It took me 3 weeks to open my note 4 box and start using it because i was putting off transferring the data. All i have really got from S5/Z2 to Note 4 is the wireless charging.

A|ex said:
The simple reason is because you are not fully utilising the Note 2 and hitting the boundaries of the phone itself. If you were hitting the edges you would notice that the extra performance from the Note 4 would be awesome.
I change my phone every few months and the boundary i had was lack of wireless charging on my previous phone (sony z2 32gb 3gb). The Samsung S4 and S5 had terrible camera and the lack of the additional 1GB really hurt.
It took me 3 weeks to open my note 4 box and start using it because i was putting off transferring the data. All i have really got from S5/Z2 to Note 4 is the wireless charging.
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I would say that his approach is way more sensible than yours. You could have easily incorporate wireless charging to both xperia z2 and galaxy s5 for much less money than note 4 cost. If that was the only edge you were looking for you simply wasted your money.

torquadon said:
I would say that his approach is way more sensible than yours. You could have easily incorporate wireless charging to both xperia z2 and galaxy s5 for much less money than note 4 cost. If that was the only edge you were looking for you simply wasted your money.
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Sony Z2 has no wireless charging at all only the Z3 has but it does have 3GB
Galaxy S5 only has 2GB not 3GB (not enough)

actually from looking at some rumours about upcoming phones, I'd be interested in the next-gen Sony Xperia Z Ultra, the so rumoured Z4 ultra, with 6.4" screen and 1440p and stylus support. but that's just vapourware atm, CES will tell.
funnily enough, i just want a bigger screen in a new phone, like that is literally the top priority. the current z ultra is a year old so its processors/res etc rules it out. though it's not too expensive to buy outright now on ebay.

I've upgraded from a note 2 and the difference is significant. The upgrade in these camera alone was worth it.
I started saving money when i bought the note 2, so the note 4 was paid off as soon as it came out.
I am writing this message from my note 2,as it's a nice device to mess around with now, and I'm currently running Lollipop ?

EP2008 said:
I've upgraded from a note 2 and the difference is significant. The upgrade in these camera alone was worth it.
I started saving money when i bought the note 2, so the note 4 was paid off as soon as it came out.
I am writing this message from my note 2,as it's a nice device to mess around with now, and I'm currently running Lollipop ?
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Lollipop on your note 2? Can you provide a link?

A|ex said:
Sony Z2 has no wireless charging at all only the Z3 has but it does have 3GB
Galaxy S5 only has 2GB not 3GB (not enough)
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I didn't check it for long time and didn't know that Sony resigned from wireless charging cover. My bad.
I'm not sure you understood his post. He didn't say that there is no difference, neither I did. All I am saying is, I believe his approach is more sensible. According to you 1gb ram and wireless charger is worth 600GBP, and for me it is not. Amount of people who will need that extra ram is relatively small, I updated from nexus 5 only because I could, not because it was by any means necessary. Both phones are more then capable of running any app from Google play smoothly, many of them would work better on nexus for that simple reason that Samsung apps use huge amount of ram/cpu and unless u root there is no way to disable them.

I was on the Note 3 and didn't had any plans to get the Note 4 as I thought it wasn't worth upgrading to.
But I haven't regret it a second! The quality of the phone is amazing! Better screen and better battery life. Love it!
/CK

I upgrade every two years. My previous phone was the note 2 and I'm thoroughly impressed. Everything, other than battery life, is a dramatic improvement. What really make this phone revolutionary upgrade from any other devise is gear vr. Think of all the advancements ever brought to the smartphone market and realize that nothing compares to gear vr.

Bruce lee roy said:
I upgrade every two years. My previous phone was the note 2 and I'm thoroughly impressed. Everything, other than battery life, is a dramatic improvement. What really make this phone revolutionary upgrade from any other devise is gear vr. Think of all the advancements ever brought to the smartphone market and realize that nothing compares to gear vr.
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This plus imagine Note 4 + Gear VR + Gear S! Although Gear VR will not allow you to call or text when the user is wearing it, with Gear S, you could do that by talking to S-Voice! I have not tried this out personally - because I am poor, but it should work... right? :S That and advanced s-pen :3
But for the whole upgrading thing: If I were to upgrade my phone today - or within the year, I would go with the Note 4. If I were patient enough to wait a few more months, well, then clearly I wouldn't get the note 4 S: The way I see it though, technology has been upgrading crazy fast so it's no big deal if you're out of the loop lol
edit: I am biased though since I already own the note 4 + VR

Note 4 or s6 or note 5...

hey guys, i have a galaxy s4 for about one and a half year, and i plan to buy a new phone, the thing is, i really like the NOTE 4 design, battery, big screen, but it has some lags, and i like the S6 fresh ui, its smoother than all samsungs, and the style is really nice, i dont know what to get, i know that when the NOTE 5 comes out it will have the S6 ui and the NOTE 4 battery and screen, but i dont know if i should wait or get something now, because if i wanna get the NOTE 5 i have to wait for more than half a year.....i appreciate your advice....THANKS

Iphone 6plus is the best option.
Joking apart s6 edge is the best phone ever made.

beppez82 said:
Iphone 6plus is the best option.
Joking apart s6 edge is the best phone ever made.
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Ya if you don't mind not having a removable battery or expanding memory cause there is no sd card slot. Don't listen to this guy. Go with the note 4 if you don't wanna wait also lg g3 is a great phone. Depending on what carrier you are on will depend on The development for the phone
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note 5
I've had all 4 and I cant see myself stopping at the 4

Note 5
Wait for the Note 5. I had a GS4 from launch day in April 2013 up until the Note 4's launch day where I then got the Note 4, I skipped the S5 and waited the extra months and when I got the Note 4 the wait was worth it:
The battery life
Design
Build quality
SPen
Incredible camera
The best display on a mobile
Etc...
I am now happy with my Note 4, the S6 looks like a super downgrade from it,and will get the Note 5 later this year when I open another contract package for my 2nd line.

THANKS guys, i dont mind lack of sd-card as long as i get the 64gb version, but the thing that killing the S6 for me is the screen size, its not small but i have a 5 inch screen now so its not much of an upgrade, and the glass at the back is not the best solution if you drop you device once...maybe i'll check the lg G4 when it comes out....

I have a Note 4 (930F) and i would trade for a S6 edge if someone wants! S6 its the most beautiful phonne ever made

hajyihia said:
hey guys, i have a galaxy s4 for about one and a half year, and i plan to buy a new phone, the thing is, i really like the NOTE 4 design, battery, big screen, but it has some lags, and i like the S6 fresh ui, its smoother than all samsungs, and the style is really nice, i dont know what to get, i know that when the NOTE 5 comes out it will have the S6 ui and the NOTE 4 battery and screen, but i dont know if i should wait or get something now, because if i wanna get the NOTE 5 i have to wait for more than half a year.....i appreciate your advice....THANKS
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Personally I don't see a major difference between the S6 and Note 4 when it comes to usability other than the fact that the former lacks many of the functions of the latter. Doubt you'd be disappointed with either one. If you prefer VR however I'd suggest waiting for the Note 5 in case it ships with a 4K/UHD screen as the current one isn't sharp enough to eliminate the screen door effect. Highly recommend getting a Gear VR regardless of whichever phone you end up picking.

beppez82 said:
Iphone 6plus is the best option.
Joking apart s6 edge is the best phone ever made.
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How is the battery holding up on it? I didn't know they were on sale yet or do you have one from Samsung?

Toss3 said:
Personally I don't see a major difference between the S6 and Note 4 when it comes to usability other than the fact that the former lacks many of the functions of the latter. Doubt you'd be disappointed with either one. If you prefer VR however I'd suggest waiting for the Note 5 in case it ships with a 4K/UHD screen as the current one isn't sharp enough to eliminate the screen door effect. Highly recommend getting a Gear VR regardless of whichever phone you end up picking.
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i do not care about the VR, i want a big screen with smooth ui and good battery, all the time i thought that HTC will come with something special but i was wrong, they used the same device from last year but with a better camera...and lg flex 2 lags a lot with lollipop, its like this year there is no choice but to pick the NOTE 4 if you want a big screen, but i know that samsung is lazy, they wont update the NOTE 4 ui to look like the S6 before the NOTE 5 comes out, and thats an issue...

Note 5, because of design...

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Note 5, because of design...
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yeah but its too far...

i've had an S2 and wanted to buy the S5 when it got out, i wasnt really amazed by it. Compared to the S4 it had ip67 waterproof, better camera, bit better screen but nothing extraordinary , and its still made of plastic.
I decided to wait it out then i realised the note series existed and i was sold immediatly when i saw the amazing note 4 it feels so nice, battery is awesome, screen is awesome, just everything is awesome about it.
If i were you, i'd wait for the note 5 if you can, like you said the nice UI from the s6 will come to N5 too + small upgrades like camera etc and maybe/probably even a note5 dualedge, so why not wait?
I had to buy a new one as my S5 was nearly at the end of it's life, i couldn't trust it anymore but if your s4 works fine, wait it out

Okay, so I'm in the same boat. I'm using my gf S3 because my S4 jumped from the shelf (literally) and commited seppuku, thus needing a new phone badly. Can anybody point the pros and cons of the Note 4 vs S6? Thinking of getting the S6 64GB but the lack of SD card and removable battery (as well as glass backpanel) are negatives in my book. Is the performance/no lag and screen quality really improved? Also, Wolfson DAC in exynos is a plus for me, being a musician and listening TONS of music on the go with headphones. Getting the Note 4 exynos isn't an option for me.
Thanks in advance!

It's the usual tech dilemma. Buy now or wait for the next big thing. There will always be a "next big thing" just around the corner. Buy now then kick yourself down the road when the presumed and currently unknown N5 comes out. Or suffer phone envy until it comes out. I passed off my S4 for a Note 4 because I wanted an S-pen. Not sorry I did and don't expect I'll be mad at myself for not waiting.
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[POLLS] GALAXY NOTE 5 is OUT. Will you Upgrade?

The Brand New Galaxy NOTE 5 has just been officially announced by Samsung. Its pretty obvious that a lot of Galaxy Note 4 users were excited about the New device till they got the knowledge of what was under the hood. What was really making the New device tick. This instead brought up some mixed feelings (and made some of us curious and some even mad).
So judging from the information we already have about the Galaxy Note 5 (if not, try here) the obvious and most important question is: Is it a worthy Upgrade from what you already own? and another question is: WILL YOU UPGRADE?
Lets vote, vote, vote and try predicting the fate of the New NOTE.

Samsung decided for me, they won't even let me buy it.

No. I won't, and I always do. I change phones 3 times a year. I'm an addict. I had GS6 and switched to G4 which I like better. I was 100% sure I'd buy the Note 5, but when they decided to just take the S6 and make it bigger, and add the S pen I decided against it. Note has always been a premium device, not a bigger gs6. This reeks of Samsung choking the profit out of its loyal following like Apple with there S upgrade.
What will happen? It will sell. The Sammy Sheep will follow their Shepard. I also believe there are more consumers who have NO IDEA about the SOC and tech info who will just buy the big phone.
I'm going to look at the Moto Pure, and even though it has the 808, I don't feel like Moto is trying to stick it to me like Samsung.
Man LG has a golden opportunity. Let's hope they know it and act on it. If they'd put out a 5.7 " screen with a bigger removable battery, SD card, stylus, and the 820 they'd kill it
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Definitely not. As dicemaster said, it wont be available in my country. Furthermore, not worthy enough tot replace my 910c.

lol is that even a question? yet still better joke then samsung made.

LOL. I think it's clear from this poll that the Note 5 hasn't been well received by the kind of people who post here, generally hardcore users. No doubt Samsung hopes that casual users will make up for that but I doubt that will happen. Hopefully they will learn from their mistakes and release a better Note 6. Till then I am happy to continue with the Note 4 which is still great and probably the best smartphone available.

Say No For Glass
using Glass was such a stupid idea

The fact that my line's still on contract until December 2016 aside (yes, Sprint still does contract pricing on our grandfathered plan), why would I downgrade to a Note 5 when I have a Note 4 that does more (removable battery, microSD, IR blaster) and is already quite fast and responsive on 5.1.1 OG5?
The only good thing I have to say about the Note 5 right now is that it just makes the existing Note 4 that much more valuable, possibly the last great Samsung phone if they don't get their act together for the Note 6.

No way. Looks like it's all downhill from here on in for Sammy.
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To me the Note 5 presentation was an EPIC FAIL.
Far to many praising words "awesome, great, design, best, word's first, etc..." and very little content.
They could make the whole presentation in a few seconds, "The S6 edge plus, the larger S6 edge. The Note 5 the larger s6 with a pen."
I saw people clapping for no reason, even for the 90s style cheap looking plastic keyboard/cover which was in fact the only thing new they could show us.
WOW... Samsung you made history!

i dont spent my money in this trash.my note 4 is better then 5.for some extras of note 5 i wait the devs...
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Samsung Galaxy Note 5 versus Note 4: What's the difference?
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-5-versus-note-4-whats-difference

I beg to differ. I think the Note 5 offers a whole different design to the Note series. Yes it's like S6 blown up, but the core functionality of Note is still there. Note 5 is like an improvement over Note 4, albeit without a SD card and removable battery. I await to see battery scores before I make the switch. If you've handled (and love) the S6/S6 Edge, I'm pretty certain you'll love the Note 5.
I'll just counter no SD card with this:
http://www.sandisk.sg/products/mobile-flash-drives/dualdrive/
Also, since the S$1188 64GB Note 5 is available in Singapore from Saturday 15 August onwards (not a typo!) with preorder goodies like Fast Wireless Charging Pad amongst others, I might just switch!! Awaiting the hands-on tomorrow.

Plus side
Wireless charging
Keyboard cover.Extra for some
Speakers?! Not sure there
Samsung pay
Octa core and less battery drain
4gb ram and a faster type
Better camera in low light both back and front
Faster flash drive
Bad
Dont come 2 europé
No exchangable battery. Honestly dont use it much, but its good 2 have
And no SD
For me its sadly no buy even IF it it did come to Sweden. ?
Edit: no Ir and no usb C
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3kgt said:
Plus side
Wireless charging
Keyboard cover
Speakers?! Not sure there
Samsung pay
Octa core and less battery drain
4gb ram
Better camera
Bad
Dont come 2 europé
No exchangable battery. Honestly dont use it much, but its good 2 have
And no SD
For me its sadly no buy even IF it it did come to Sweden.
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None of the plus sides you list compensates for micro sd slot.
Wireless charging is always sluggish and useless to me, 4gb ram is only noticed in heavy multitasking and found in 1/3rd of the price Asus Zenfone 2, Keyboard cover is ugly, pointless and useless, speakers are not a pro (not front facing stereo speakers), Samsung pay will only work when Note 6 or 7 is launched, cpu performance of the note 4 was never an issue, camera is practically the same.
Looking at Note 4 firmware track records, you can assume that the Note 5 will be forgotten by Samsung after one year.

no removable battery+no sd card.......well i came from lg and since lg will lauche the g4 pro with 5.8 inchs+above 20 pixel camera....and not to mention the next g flex 3...probably going back to lg!!!
personally it dont worth the upgrade....

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LOL. I think it's clear from this poll that the Note 5 hasn't been well received by the kind of people who post here, generally hardcore users. No doubt Samsung hopes that casual users will make up for that but I doubt that will happen. Hopefully they will learn from their mistakes and release a better Note 6. Till then I am happy to continue with the Note 4 which is still great and probably the best smartphone available.
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BOOM!! +1000!!
You hit the nail on the head, exactly my thoughts.
The Note 5 just made my Note 4 more precious, I am going to stick with it, get a 128GB MicroSDXC for it and a new case as it will have to serve me another year now, no thanks to Samsung!
Samsung has disappointed the most loyal of users, the 'Power Users', they actually do not realise how influential we can be, especially thanks to popular tech sites, blogs and YouTube reviewers. They are going to pay hard for this mess!

I changed my batteri like to times today because I was a busy and used it all day it save me a lot of work and was online the hole day without any plugging until now of course, and it seems I can't do that with the note 5 so no not at all I will keep note 4 until they come with a better one next year with an exchangeable battery this is seriously the only reason I picked the note 4 , thy've should keept the note series far away from the S series they so dumb if next year the same design I'm going to LG that for sure

Can't believe Sammy would throw away all the things that made the note stand out. Am definitely not getting a note 5.

3kgt said:
Plus side
Wireless charging
Keyboard cover
Speakers?! Not sure there
Samsung pay
Octa core and less battery drain
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Better camera
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Wireless Chargin: Already have the cover...
Keyboard cover: wtf?
speakers?: not a plus if it isn't known or confirmed.
Samsung pay: (isn't this just beepngo tech? doesn't the note4 have this?)
octacore and less drain: This is probably true, but it will only offset for the smaller battery most likely.
4gb ram: this is definitely a plus, but only if their software isn't a memory hog.
better camera: I believe it is the exact same camera.
This poll is actually insane! I haven't seen a new launch device have the community so polarized against purchasing it ... 92% not liking it... that isn't good for business samsung.
I personally could have gotten on board with a non-replaceable battery, but to kill the sd card too... not good. They should have just given it a little tray. Isn't samsung the biggest retailer of sdxc cards anyways? what the heck.. don't they want to sell sdxc cards to everyone?

Considering upgrade to Note 4

I've had my Note 2 for 3.5 years now and I still like it but have recently been trying to decide whether it's time to move on and get something newer.
I think the only phone that I'd really consider is the Note 4 (the 5 isn't available in the UK ). I'd probably be looking at paying the same for an 18 month old phone as I did when I got my N2 (£30/m) and I got that the same month it was released.
Is it much of an upgrade over the Note 2 and does it still hold its own against newer phones released? I like the S Pen and screen size otherwise I might consider something else. Or I could just keep my N2 for another year.

Chrissssssss said:
I've had my Note 2 for 3.5 years now and I still like it but have recently been trying to decide whether it's time to move on and get something newer.
I think the only phone that I'd really consider is the Note 4 (the 5 isn't available in the UK ). I'd probably be looking at paying the same for an 18 month old phone as I did when I got my N2 (£30/m) and I got that the same month it was released.
Is it much of an upgrade over the Note 2 and does it still hold its own against newer phones released? I like the S Pen and screen size otherwise I might consider something else. Or I could just keep my N2 for another year.
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note 4 is a great phone, but if i were u i would wait or consider upgrading to s7 edge

From Note 2? Its a HUGE upgrade dude. For almost everything. Just compare the specs in GSMA, and its easy. Some things though can't be reflected on specs, and even in those areas its a huge upgrade. Just go for it.

I went from Note 2 to Note 4, and it was almost everything I hoped. Custom roms aren't as previlent, is the only downside, but cm13 is coming along nicely.

It's a huge upgrade
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If software and half ass fingerprint reader isn't a problem, Note 4 is perfect and can still go toe to toe with current flagships.

whshkhalid said:
note 4 is a great phone, but if i were u i would wait or consider upgrading to s7 edge
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Wait for what? The S7 edge is a silly price and I don't really see much use for the edge display. And I'd use a case that would cover it up anyway.

ithehappy said:
From Note 2? Its a HUGE upgrade dude. For almost everything. Just compare the specs in GSMA, and its easy. Some things though can't be reflected on specs, and even in those areas its a huge upgrade. Just go for it.
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Thanks. If it lasts as long as my Note 2 has I'll be happy. I think I'll go for it

Last September did the same,had my note 2 for about 2,5 years. Gave note 2 to my wife and then compared with my note 4. Note 4 is much pretier and with better feel on the hand, the screen is a big difference,when we put side by side the qHD beats the hell out of the HD. Note 4 is of course faster,the camera is awesome. The only downside its the fingerprint reader,it fails me 4 out of 10. I rooted and wear lots of custom roms on the note 2. When oassed to my wife went with a note 4 port rom,but now on note 4 haven't felt the need to root,i like the stock and abilities of spen and stuff,that's why i bought the note series,so why would i change. I advise you to buy it. You will notice the change. I will only upgrade from note 4 when we have a newer note with foldable display or something really new,otherwise not worth it,they just make some tiny spec upgrade.

GPS is a let down on note 4 my only gripe

Had my note 4 for almost 2 years, use is as Sat Nav for almost all my journeys. battery is great and just got better with software update. I had one issue with my simcard reader but samsung sent someone to collect my phone and i had it back all working in a new housing with new battery and usb cable within a week. My next upgrade is hopefully going to be the note 6 if it has SD card support, if not then ill stick with my trusty note 4

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GPS is a let down on note 4 my only gripe
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The only thing I really miss from Note 2 is the FM radio receiver. There is also a question of size (the Note 4 is a bit taller and it shows when in pocket), durability (the plastic Note 2 held better the few dints and scratches than the metal Note 4) and the access to microSD card (blame Lollipop).
That said, it is a huge upgrade on most areas and a fantastic handset with both removable battery (I keep a spare always charged for a 2-minute 0% to 100%) and microSD card (to keep all those beautiful photos and videos it can capture and record, while also keeping a ton of media). The screen is beautiful and the quick charging ability is also of notice (for when you forget to bring the spare battery). The speaker is almost as week as the Note 2's, but it has great sound when coupled with decent headphones. For gaming, the Game Tuner app helps getting the balance between a good visual experience, frame rates and battery life (you just need to manually adjust the parameters). The S-Pen suite is also improved and the pen itself is leaps and bounds better (it comes with two spare tips as hard as the ones on Note 2 if you really want it).
Just go for it if you can't wait for Note 6 next September and are a Note fan.

Thanks everyone.
I hope I don't get GPS issues with the Note 4 and I do use that quite a lot on my Note 2. Is that something that shows up straight away if there's a problem or goes wrong after time?
I probably could wait 6 months but I'd have to wait 6 more after that as I'd probably renue my SIM only deal for another year if I kept the N2. Think I'll make the jump now. Very surprised there's nothing really catching my eye after 3.5 years.
Interestingly (maybe) EE don't actually sell the Note 4 directly anymore but loads of online places sell it with an EE contract.
I rarely use the FM radio on my phone so don't think I'll miss that. Is the SD card access the same as on a Lollipop CM ROM on this phone? And is Marshmallow out for the N4?

And spare tips for the pen sounds good. My daughter bit the end off my pen so I had to buy a new one

So The Note 4, it's excellent, the Camera rocks and removable battery and sdCard.
The s7 edge? From a Note? Don't do it - I did The s6edge+ fantastic, kept The Note.
You'll love it. Or wait for this years Note6 of that's an option.
The Note4 remains a fabulous phone.
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Chrissssssss said:
And spare tips for the pen sounds good. My daughter bit the end off my pen so I had to buy a new one
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I dont have any gps issues,marsmallow already came out for spring variant so ours should have it soon. And mine came with 3 black tips and 2 white ones and a small plier to exchange it. And again believe in me i also changed N2 for N4 and i never regretted or felt disappointed

Chrissssssss said:
Thanks everyone.
I hope I don't get GPS issues with the Note 4 and I do use that quite a lot on my Note 2. Is that something that shows up straight away if there's a problem or goes wrong after time?
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I don't get the GPS issues on my phone either. Although GLONASS accessibility is an exclusively available thing in India. But if I remember right, Note 2 indeed was faster to have sat locks, I mean I don't remember much, cause its 3 years since I have used the Note 2 but it was almost instant outside and even in indoor it was 30 seconds if not less. This Note 4 on other hand takes around 30-60 seconds for outside lock sometimes for me (especially when my data is off), and in indoor in takes around a couple of minutes (again, if Data or WiFi is off). What I gather from these new phones is that they depend on your A-GPS setting quite a lot, which I don't think was the case with Note 2. In any case its no deal breaker at all. Just a little more waiting time, that's all. Accuracy is immaculate, far better than Note 2 anyway
In any case if problem should happen then there's an app called TopNTP, do install that, it made my otherwise half dead GPS response of my Note 3, somewhat half-awake. They keep some special NTP servers or something. Nifty app.
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And is Marshmallow out for the N4?
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Yes, for ONE carrier, in ONE country, Sprint or something. But I am sure the international release will happen soon.

Well my Note 4 has now been ordered. Got an email asking me to ring to give them some extra info or something but they're shut now.
Excited now No other phones I want, Note 5 not available over here (and no SD card ), Note 6 (if it does come to the UK) will probably be silly price, and I'm sure I'll be happy with the Note 4.
Thanks everyone

I got a note 4 off my brother and love it. It's quick, reliable and good battery life considering its nearly 2 years old.
Should you consider it is another question.
Pros:
Screen on par with most new phones, enough power and battery life is good enough considering the screen size and remember this was one of the first with qhd. Has everything the new Samsung phones have.
Cons - it's not 64bit and marshmallow update will probably be the last official update. There are only few custom roms which are up to date although you do have cm13 roms out there is you decide to give up on the spen features. If you looking to future proof yourself I would probably get a note 6 or find a note 5 on ebay. At least that way you'll get android n and more chances of newer custom roms.
If you not all interested in the updates you should definitely consider a note 4(there are note 5 ports which make your feel newer and echoerom online is excellent). Looks good and performance is as good as you can get out there. Plus it's a lot better than the note 2.

Is it good to buy Note4 now?

I want to buy a new phone and shortlisted note4 and moto x style. I am not sure is there are any issues with note4. If there are any can you guys please let me know.Currently its 29900 http://www.flipkart.com/samsung-gal...955885011847146&srno=p_2&otracker=from-search.

alien0101 said:
I want to buy a new phone and shortlisted note4 and moto x style. I am not sure is there are any issues with note4. If there are any can you guys please let me know.Currently its 29900 http://www.flipkart.com/samsung-gal...955885011847146&srno=p_2&otracker=from-search.
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Why note 4 now ? There are so many other devices in this price range.
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Why note 4 now ? There are so many other devices in this price range.
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can u tell me any good device as better that note4 in this price range

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It's always a good idea to buy a Note 4, provided that you absolutely need the Spen. If you don't, then maybe you should look for something else.
But if you intend to use the Spen extensively, then Note 4 looks even better than the Note 5. For a relatively affordable price, you get replaceable battery, memory slot and you can install a Note 5 rom, making it absolutely the same in the software sector. The Note 5 has a much more capable hardware on paper, but probably you won't notice that in everyday use and in most situtations.
The deciding factor is the Spen. Do you need it? If yes, get it. If you don't, look for something else.

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It's always a good idea to buy a Note 4, provided that you absolutely need the Spen. If you don't, then maybe you should look for something else.
But if you intend to use the Spen extensively, then Note 4 looks even better than the Note 5. For a relatively affordable price, you get replaceable battery, memory slot and you can install a Note 5 rom, making it absolutely the same in the software sector. The Note 5 has a much more capable hardware on paper, but probably you won't notice that in everyday use and in most situtations.
The deciding factor is the Spen. Do you need it? If yes, get it. If you don't, look for something else.
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thanks guys,
I am little confused with note4 and moto x style...I was using note 2 and not 3 before then I shifted to one plus 2.
I thougt without sd card I will be able to manage but I guess its quite difficult thats why I want to buy a phone with sd card. Moto x style is good one with lowr price also but its not having OIS and camera is not so good in low light conditions.
How is note 4 camera. Do you guys recommend to buy note 4?

Note 4 is the best phone I have ever owned it's still competing with today's flagship especially with root and unlocked bootloader the battery is amazing camera is high quality and I have never ran out of space with a 128gb SD card and 32gb on board memory I would suggest if you get the note 4 get the snapdragon variant. But like other have said if you don't use the spen you can get a on paper better phone with the same price range, but that note 4 amoled screen is very hard to compare to.
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Note 4 is the best phone I have ever owned it's still competing with today's flagship especially with root and unlocked bootloader the battery is amazing camera is high quality and I have never ran out of space with a 128gb SD card and 32gb on board memory I would suggest if you get the note 4 get the snapdragon variant. But like other have said if you don't use the spen you can get a on paper better phone with the same price range, but that note 4 amoled screen is very hard to compare to.
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Well, without spen also I am not able to find any phone within same price range which is as good as note 4.
Note 4 screen --resoultion + size
removable battery,
sd card
infra red
3 GB ram
CAMERA (OIS + 16MB)
I am looking for good screen (5.5 to 5.7) 3GB RAM, good camera,sd card support.
Do you know any phone better than note4 in above features.

Post no. #4 is the kind of post why i get angry for the sheer stupidity!
Note 4 at 30k is still the best phone out there, end of story. One Plus 2 nice, but only the camera is better. I myself was confused between X Style and Note 4, ended up with the latter, glad I did. Motorola would win in terms of software only, that's it. For Note 4 you only compromise with the software, TW (it's not that bad anyway), and get quite a lot of other this which other phones can't even dream about providing.
Go for it.

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Post no. #4 is the kind of post why i get angry for the sheer stupidity!
Note 4 at 30k is still the best phone out there, end of story. One Plus 2 nice, but only the camera is better. I myself was confused between X Style and Note 4, ended up with the latter, glad I did. Motorola would win in terms of software only, that's it. For Note 4 you only compromise with the software, TW (it's not that bad anyway), and get quite a lot of other this which other phones can't even dream about providing.
Go for it.
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Thanks , looks like note 4 is better option..

alien0101 said:
Well, without spen also I am not able to find any phone within same price range which is as good as note 4.
Note 4 screen --resoultion + size
removable battery,
sd card
infra red
3 GB ram
CAMERA (OIS + 16MB)
I am looking for good screen (5.5 to 5.7) 3GB RAM, good camera,sd card support.
Do you know any phone better than note4 in above features.
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You won't find a more full featured phone in that price range that will compare with a note 4, and the spen is just a topping on the cake that makes it that much more useful. There are a bunch of amazing Roms that ported the note 5 features and cleaned up touchwiz to the point where it actually is a great Ui the only phone I would think of getting instead of a note 4 is the new nexus.
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alien0101 said:
thanks guys,
I am little confused with note4 and moto x style...I was using note 2 and not 3 before then I shifted to one plus 2.
I thougt without sd card I will be able to manage but I guess its quite difficult thats why I want to buy a phone with sd card. Moto x style is good one with lowr price also but its not having OIS and camera is not so good in low light conditions.
How is note 4 camera. Do you guys recommend to buy note 4?
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You have mentioned nothing about the Spen. You also had Note 2 and 3, but it was easy for you to shift to OPT.
I think it's obvious that you do not have a great need for the most stand out feature of the Notes. In that case, you should probably go for another phone, there are so many good phones out there these days.

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You have mentioned nothing about the Spen. You also had Note 2 and 3, but it was easy for you to shift to OPT.
I think it's obvious that you do not have a great need for the most stand out feature of the Notes. In that case, you should probably go for another phone, there are so many good phones out there these days.
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I can live without spen, but I am not able to find these specs in another phone whithin this price range.Can u list any phone with
QHD screen
5.7 screen size
removable battery,
sd card
infra red
3 GB ram
CAMERA with OIS
Only phone which came close was moto x style but its camera is not good at all. I like some new phones also Like Zuk ,LE Eco but they dont have sd card.
Moto g plus is good but it is having heating issue plus camera is not good.

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Yaaa so? It may be garbage to you I respect what that device is going to offer as i said its my pov i can speak whatever i want. I didnt tell him to trust me i said google it. You can get even better devices. Note 4 surely is great one I myself use note 4 but after what sammy did with 6.0.1 i think note 4 users should use a ported rom to do justice with the hardware. So in comparison to that there are many devices. Htc one me camera just go and look at the camera of that device. Hence my point of view. If you didnt like it then talk respectfully.
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Yah man I'm surprised you even mentioned the iPhone in that post that was pretty sad to bring up iPhone in a XDA forum. And I'm pretty sure the YU is a Indian company I'm not sure the band's will work here or at least have issues in the USA or Europe.
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Yah man I'm surprised you even mentioned the iPhone in that post that was pretty sad to bring up iPhone in a XDA forum. And I'm pretty sure the YU is a Indian company I'm not sure the band's will work here or at least have issues in the USA or Europe.
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Hahaha yupp iPhone sucks i say it too but as i said to the other guy i gave him the choices on price range. And yes YU is an Indian company but I saw people around me using it and it is good enough i mean given the liberty to do anything with the device, few tweaks would make it a good one. And the model was different its going to launch in this week with flagship specs. So he can keep it to compare the models you know.
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Don't go for note 4. I've been using for 1 and a half year and I regret it. I don't want to change to note 5 and wait for another year for note 6 or note 7 edge (whatever they want to call it).
P's. It's a Korean company and not an us, europe or whatever your country coming from.
To OP, just go to the shop and try both. Better to try yourself then asking other people.

I just picked up a used N901F for a ludicrously cheap price and I'm going to give it a week or so to see how it compares to my N9005 with daily use before I decide if I keep it or not. The biggest issue will be battery life as the Note 3 rocked in that department! I travel a lot so I need battery life and stability so I'm a little hesitant to go down the custom ROM route (didn't have too many issues with my HTC HD2 in that respect) so I've rooted it stuck TWRP and xposed on, installed most of my old apps and gsam battery monitor to keep an eye on what's going on with the battery.
This is my first time using MM - any apps/features you guys recommend either specifically on the Note 4 or even MM in general?

You can go for Note 4, eyes closed, great phone.
Seriously, that's a very funny post, Yu and other phones compared with Samsung, and that too a Galaxy Note phone. I live in India too, and I too do see ghatiya (rubbish) phones being used nowadays, LeEco, Lyf, Xioami etc., those could never be compared with a Samsung or brands like that at first place! Also just by seeing a phone, that too used by other people, you can't conclude a decision, let alone recommending it to someone!!! Weird!

Note4life only note 6 next!!!
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I'd honestly say that the Note 4 is a excellent device even by today's standards. I've seen some retailers sell it at a much lower price than when I purchased mine last year.