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Exynos Octa SM-G900H Benchmark, Geat, and Battery Life

There is still little information about the octa variant. No review about score and battery life.
So I was able to install antutu on demo unit. The score is high and the phone is not heating. All 8 cores can run together but Antutu reports the freq is 500-1300MHz and not recognize the cpu model name.
Please post your benchmark and battery life.

dragon135 said:
There is still little information about the octa variant. No review about score and battery life.
So I was able to install antutu on demo unit. The score is high and the phone is not heating. All 8 cores can run together but Antutu reports the freq is 500-1300MHz and not recognize the cpu model name.
Please post your benchmark and battery life.
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Damn. Exynos is consistently higher than the Snapdragon 801 in Antutu.
Only disappointment is the lack of LTE though(and ROMs too).

The new Exynos version come with new kind of fine-grained power management, overheating should be of the past and impossible.

Here's a benchmark video of the Exynos version.
It scores a chart topping 39029 on Antutu, that too without all the benchmark boosting involved!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P67kWKA4Lso&feature=youtube_gdata_player

AndreiLux said:
The new Exynos version come with new kind of fine-grained power management, overheating should be of the past and impossible.
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Hi @AndreiLux,
Nice to see your comment, Do you confirm the S5 Exynos version? I mean we forget S4 I9500 problems and this new version has no problem? Thanks.
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AndreiLux said:
The new Exynos version come with new kind of fine-grained power management, overheating should be of the past and impossible.
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Samsung advertises "True Octa Core" capabilities with this device and this certainly means that Samsung is shipping the device with HMP enabled.
Does HMP offer better battery management over the previous implementations?

system.img said:
Samsung advertises "True Octa Core" capabilities with this device and this certainly means that Samsung is shipping the device with HMP enabled.
Does HMP offer better battery management over the previous implementations?
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It comes with HMP but that's not what I'm talking about.
The device comes with something called ARM Intelligent Power Allocation (IPA) which is basically a very fine-grained power tracking and estimation thermal framework to control DVFS. The device is capped at 3.5W TDP between all CPUs and GPU, so it should never cause a heating overrun. And it seems that it doesn't affect performance given the videos.

Galaxy s3 + galaxy s4 = galaxy s5
Amazing power

AndreiLux said:
It comes with HMP but that's not what I'm talking about.
The device comes with something called ARM Intelligent Power Allocation (IPA) which is basically a very fine-grained power tracking and estimation thermal framework to control DVFS. The device is capped at 3.5W TDP between all CPUs and GPU, so it should never cause a heating overrun. And it seems that it doesn't affect performance given the videos.
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I didn't mean that you mentioned about HMP in your earlier post. I just had a question about the battery performance of HMP.
Can you comment on that?
Thanks for this info. :beer:

@Andrei So is this exynos 4422 in S5?
What is the difference then with the new exynos 4430?
Won't you buy S5 Octa?
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AndreiLux said:
The new Exynos version come with new kind of fine-grained power management, overheating should be of the past and impossible.
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It is still Andrei it is still
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leoaudio13 said:
It is still Andrei it is still
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I've read the opposite from other people such as the OP. All depends on firmware you had on your version. We'll see when somebody actually bothers to properly test it. I'm just stating what I see in the code.
@dragon135
The 5430 has a HEVC decoder, dedicated clock domain on the display interface, higher clocks in general, GPU at 600MHz (no info on core count but improvement is a possibility), and a new dedicated A5 co-processor for audio decoding and encoding called "Siren". The HEVC decoder alone is worth it imho since it provides good future-proofing of the device.

AndreiLux said:
I've read the opposite from other people such as the OP. All depends on firmware you had on your version. We'll see when somebody actually bothers to properly test it. I'm just stating what I see in the code.
@dragon135
The 5430 has a HEVC decoder, dedicated clock domain on the display interface, higher clocks in general, GPU at 600MHz (no info on core count but improvement is a possibility), and a new dedicated A5 co-processor for audio decoding and encoding called "Siren". The HEVC decoder alone is worth it imho.
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5430???? :what::what::what::what::what::what::what::what::what:

AndreiLux said:
I've read the opposite from other people such as the OP. All depends on firmware you had on your version. We'll see when somebody actually bothers to properly test it. I'm just stating what I see in the code.
@dragon135
The 5430 has a HEVC decoder, dedicated clock domain on the display interface, higher clocks in general, GPU at 600MHz (no info on core count but improvement is a possibility), and a new dedicated A5 co-processor for audio decoding and encoding called "Siren". The HEVC decoder alone is worth it imho since it provides good future-proofing of the device.
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The 900H I tested ( i made a vid on that ) was hot as hell after 2 or 3 antutubench. Not sure as if it was the final version but my first impression on the Octa was really really impressed with fluidity and speed. However, if watch closely to my vid, u can see the octa will slightly slow down and get hot after a period of hesvy tasks. I wouldnt say it might be at that overheated but I can feel the temp while holding 2 different variants in hands. Well, let see how the octa performs in the future. I might get 1 final H version to test to but I want to get the M8 to test as too many guys claiming the M8 is way better than the S5 hehe.
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Btw, the octa performed quite low in graphic test in my vid. I thought Mali would have performed way better than Snap version :/ kinda confused
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leoaudio13 said:
Btw, the octa performed quite low in graphic test in my vid. I thought Mali would have performed way better than Snap version :/ kinda confused
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The Adreno 330 is too fat. ARM promises performance improvements via drivers but we'll see if that'll happen or not.

iba21 said:
5430???? :what::what::what::what::what::what::what::what::what:
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what "what" ? Samsung Exynos 5430

Pako7 said:
what "what" ? Samsung Exynos 5430
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Well.. it's my first time witch i read something about 5430.. for me the "last" was the 5422
it means, 5422 is only another unusefull chip til a better soc.. in this case the 5430..

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and a new dedicated A5 co-processor for audio decoding and encoding called "Siren".
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Andrei.. may be "SEIREN" ?
And how do you know about the frequency of the GPU?
iba21 said:
Well.. it's my first time witch i read something about 5430.. for me the "last" was the 5422
it means, 5422 is only another unusefull chip til a better soc.. in this case the 5430..
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well.. but about 5430 known since the beginning of the year .. but there is still 5440

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Andrei.. may be "SEIREN" ?
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well.. but about 5430 known since the beginning of the year .. but there is still 5440
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Im eagerly waiting for the 64 bits Exynos cant wait to get hands on it haha
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Yep but.. there are a lot of rumors about socs.. the 5430 was rumored as 64bit cpu.. and it was a rumor outed when there weren't infos about 5420 soc..
5440 is in kernel sources.. never ever umderstood it..

[Q] mi3 tegra vs snapdragon

I have both the tegra and snapdragon version of mi3.I can keep only one. Which one should I keep. I don't care about 3G. The only thing I care about is which one is faster and better in terms of performance. Thanks.

Android_user11 said:
I have both the tegra and snapdragon version of mi3.I can keep only one. Which one should I keep. I don't care about 3G. The only thing I care about is which one is faster and better in terms of performance. Thanks.
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as far as i know the td version is only for china,
and snapdragon is for the rest of the countries,
regarding speed and performance,snapdragon is a beast its to fast,snappier and gives an awesome performance
and once the kernel sources are released you can expect a hell lot of stable custom roms and kernels for the snapdragon variant,

I know tegra is for China. I got them both from China. I installed international stable rom on both. They are same in all aspects other than processor.
You are saying that snapdragon version will be faster?(I thought the tegra would be faster)

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I know tegra is for China. I got them both from China. I installed international stable rom on both. They are same in all aspects other than processor.
You are saying that snapdragon version will be faster?(I thought the tegra would be faster)
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i feel snap is faster then tegra,but you have the devices you can compare the speeds better right ,
and i guess you are running miui roms,
well i was saying about other roms like aosp aisp carbon cm11 they are hell lot faster then the miui rom,so if you go for the snapdragon one,you can have all these roms ,
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-800-vs-Nvidia-Tegra-4
this might help you out in your decision

ZenR2 said:
i feel snap is faster then tegra,but you have the devices you can compare the speeds better right ,
and i guess you are running miui roms,
well i was saying about other roms like aosp aisp carbon cm11 they are hell lot faster then the miui rom,so if you go for the snapdragon one,you can have all these roms ,
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You're right. More roms and kernels will be available for snapdragon version and since I will root my phone, snapdragon would probably be better. Can you please provide a benchmark so that I can convince myself that they are almost equal in terms of performance?

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You're right. More roms and kernels will be available for snapdragon version and since I will root my phone, snapdragon would probably be better. Can you please provide a benchmark so that I can convince myself that they are almost equal in terms of performance?
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i cant tell you about tegras benchmark,but snap gave me antu benchmark of 37-40,000 score sometimes even more say 42

Anyone here has tried benchmarking tegra 4 phones?

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Anyone here has tried benchmarking tegra 4 phones?
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you have the phone, right?

Just keep the snapdragon version, all around better and there's lots of development for the snapdragon version, plus one day you might need 3g, you'll be stuck on edge with the tegra.
Sent from my MI 3W

Thanks everyone. The reason I wasn't trying to benchmark the phones was that I wasn't at home (no WiFi) and since tegra version doesn't have 3g I couldn't download antutu. Yesterday I ran antutu on them both. Snapdragon got 41000(40991 to be precise) and tegra got 36000.I am keeping snapdragon version.
Thanks again.Btw sometimes the back bottom and home buttons light don't work properly (turn off after some time). Is this hardware issue or what. I don't really have any problem. I just turn them all of from settings. just wanted to know if anyone knows how to fix this. the menu bottom lights work fine .

Let's get 64-bit Android to our Note 4 Exynos via a Kickstarter-campaign

Edit: Campaign Link Available: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/166919191/we-want-64-bit-android-on-our-note-4-and-tab-s2-97
Hi all,
As the proud owner of a Note 4, I am a digital enthusiast looking to facilitate my life as much as possible. I expect high performance, faultless experience and plenty of organisational functionalities.
Having chosen deliberately for the Exynos-version, I am also tech savvy and willing to pay an extra buck for a machine that will do the extra mile, both in speed and distance.
You can imagine my disappointment when I figured out that the Exynos 5433-version ships with a 32-bit Android, without a 64-bit update in sight. My extra buck down the drain, stuck with a 2 year long feeling of having paid a vast sum of money for an ‘old’ device.
After having browsed the fora and blog posts, I’ve seen I’m not the only one. Realising that this is ‘only’ a matter of code, I can not help but feeling we can solve this! (Samsung, if not, then this will have been my last Samsung device).
I've launched a kickstarter campaign where I want to find 1000 users, backing the campaign with €1 for 2 goals:
1) Gather all interested Note 4 and Tab S2 9.7 owners who want a 64-bit operating system to pressure Samsung with a high amount of discontent customers to release the bootloader source code..
2) Gather money to donate to a recognised developer that can make a 64-bit bootloader, once Samsung has released the bootloader source code.
With this tread, I’d like to ask those interested to join and spread the word! Together, we can win this
You can find the project on kickstarter.com by searching with "64 bit". You'll see the "we want android 64 bit for our exynos "- project.
I am sure that together, we can win this!
Dapollez

I would count myself happy if we even get the leaked revamped tw with 6.o. But don't give up. ?
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Might be unfair for snapdragon users, but hey, i bought my note4 for the 64bit capability. so count me in!

? Great Idea !
I m in

I must say that the respons is not what I'd epected. We won't make it this way.
Anybody any idea's on how to bring this under the attention? I would have loved to have posted in under the Exynos-development section, but I'm not allowed.
@moderator: Since timing is everything,it would be good to point people to the kickstater campaign on the first read of this post. Could you please allow me to add the link to the post (or do it yourself?) I've contacted 2 moderators, no reply yet.

In

Sure why not, I really like to have this as it will make porting easier as I think

Is 64bit even worth it ? I thought it is worth when you have at least 4gb of ram

Finally someone just said wat I feel Iam completely supporting a man for 2 yearsnow and Iam waiting For someone in xda to succeed in activating 64 bit exynos note 4 , Don't giveup .

So what will that goal achieve? the figure showing that the phone is 64bit? Does it provide tangible improvements, will the phone perform better and consume less battery. To my knowledge it will do no such thing and I can only imagine how many men hours it will take to port all the libraries, kernel, bootloader, I fail to see the benefits.

Vichenec said:
So what will that goal achieve? the figure showing that the phone is 64bit? Does it provide tangible improvements, will the phone perform better and consume less battery. To my knowledge it will do no such thing and I can only imagine how many men hours it will take to port all the libraries, kernel, bootloader, I fail to see the benefits.
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The discussion whether 64 bit brings extra performance or not has been held on several other places, on XDA and elsewhere. I'd like to try to keep this post about the campaign as clean as possible to enthusiast as many as possible.
We will take advantage of ARMv8 architecture, both for CPU and GPU. So there will be a performance gain. How big remains to be proven. Besides this It's a matter of principle.

Dapollez said:
The discussion whether 64 bit brings extra performance or not has been held on several other places, on XDA and elsewhere. I'd like to try to keep this post about the campaign as clean as possible to enthusiast as many as possible.
We will take advantage of ARMv8 architecture, both for CPU and GPU. So there will be a performance gain. How big remains to be proven. Besides this It's a matter of principle.
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Im pretty sure there wont be any change. You allready have advantage of armv8( it has nothing to do with 64 bit) im using s6 edge and performance difference is very minimal even with overclocked cpu. I bet there wont be even 1% performance change but ram usage will be higher around 15% percent cuz of 64 bit so i hope note 4 sticks with 32 bit.

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Im pretty sure there wont be any change. You allready have advantage of armv8( it has nothing to do with 64 bit) im using s6 edge and performance difference is very minimal even with overclocked cpu. I bet there wont be even 1% performance change but ram usage will be higher around 15% percent cuz of 64 bit so i hope note 4 sticks with 32 bit.
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Then what about the benchmark scores ?
& overall performance ?
Whatever it may be , I think it should be available because exynos 5433 is 64bit supported.

usmann_090 said:
Then what about the benchmark scores ?
& overall performance ?
Whatever it may be , I think it should be available because exynos 5433 is 64bit supported.
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Which benchmark scores? Antutu has the biggest difference and its a bull**** benchmark anyway. And gpu is more powerful on 7420. Other benchmarks just about frequency difference 200 mhz overclock performance gain and its not that big for example 5433 get 1300/4600 on geekbench 7420 gets around 1500/5200. Thats all. About daily usage its just same for me i even tried it now app launchs etc almost same web pages load almost same.

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Which benchmark scores? Antutu has the biggest difference and its a bull**** benchmark anyway. And gpu is more powerful on 7420. Other benchmarks just about frequency difference 200 mhz overclock performance gain and its not that big for example 5433 get 1300/4600 on geekbench 7420 gets around 1500/5200. Thats all. About daily usage its just same for me i even tried it now app launchs etc almost same web pages load almost same.
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Nah its not about oc.even if u can oc your cpu now to the same freq on 7420 the score wouldn't be the same. Cuz 7420 have diffrent CPU*architecture . and 7420 will be better because it would have the latest CPU*architecture. Soo yeah

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Nah its not about oc.even if u can oc your cpu now to the same freq on 7420 the score wouldn't be the same. Cuz 7420 have diffrent CPU*architecture . and 7420 will be better because it would have the latest CPU*architecture. Soo yeah
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Not its just same cpu architecture both cortex a57 only difference is in production 1 is 20 nm 1 is 14 nm. And it doesnt effect performance directly it just gives you a thermal space so they can overclock cpu to 2.1 ghz like in 7420 basically you cant overclock 5433 to 2.1 its just too much for it in 20 nm.
Btw we are talking about 64 bit not cpus itself. And whatever i use both of them anyway and i dont think 7420 worths anything 2015 is just waste for me imho.

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Not its just same cpu architecture both cortex a57 only difference is in production 1 is 20 nm 1 is 14 nm. And it doesnt effect performance directly it just gives you a thermal space so they can overclock cpu to 2.1 ghz like in 7420 basically you cant overclock 5433 to 2.1 its just too much for it in 20 nm.
Btw we are talking about 64 bit not cpus itself. And whatever i use both of them anyway and i dont think 7420 worths anything 2015 is just waste for me imho.
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The revision. And btw they quietly improve things up u didnt know so yea

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The revision. And btw they quietly improve things up u didnt know so yea
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Well peak performance doesnt effected by small differences even s810 with same cores (a57) gives same peak performance but sustainable performance can change between all of them. Again its not a soc thread im just commenting about 64 bit.

im in. I support you.

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So what will that goal achieve? the figure showing that the phone is 64bit? Does it provide tangible improvements, will the phone perform better and consume less battery. To my knowledge it will do no such thing and I can only imagine how many men hours it will take to port all the libraries, kernel, bootloader, I fail to see the benefits.
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Does it matter? If people are willing to pay for it and developers are willing to do the work, I don't see any harm in it. Always better to have 64-bit support.

can mi5 32gb be made to run at 2.15ghz

hello guys i want to know if the mi5 32gb can be restored to normal speed.we don't know yet if the 820 on the 32gb is binned but is it possible to get the cpu big core at 2.15 and small core to 1.6 from 1.8 and 1.4 and can we also increase the gpu speed to normal because the gpu speed is also decreased by 100mhz or something. xiaomi has promised to release kernel sources with miui 8 developers can you please do it

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hello guys i want to know if the mi5 32gb can be restored to normal speed.we don't know yet if the 820 on the 32gb is binned but is it possible to get the cpu big core at 2.15 and small core to 1.6 from 1.8 and 1.4 and can we also increase the gpu speed to normal because the gpu speed is also decreased by 100mhz or something. xiaomi has promised to release kernel sources with miui 8 developers can you please do it
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Where is the promise to release kernel source, please link it!
Yes it will be possible with custom kernels. Let's just hope we don't have a worse cpu bin though.

Haven't overclocked a phone since Nexus One. Would be exciting!

A7000 ROM on A6000?

So, I was just wondering.
Both have the same CPUs, same GPUs even.
The differiences are RAM size, CPU cores, clock speeds, and chipsets.
So, would it be possible to port a ROM, or to even just install a ROM? (with edited updater-script to match product name, of course.)

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So, I was just wondering.
Both have the same CPUs, same GPUs even.
The differiences are RAM size, CPU cores, clock speeds, and chipsets.
So, would it be possible to port a ROM, or to even just install a ROM? (with edited updater-script to match product name, of course.)
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Lenovo A7000 and A6000 has same GPU and CPU?

HDHR said:
Lenovo A7000 and A6000 has same GPU and CPU?
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Oh, turns out I was wrong about the GPU, not that it matters when porting though.
Anyway, CPUs, yeah, but use the Cortex-A53 ARM CPU. (But the A7000 performs with the CPU better because the A7000 has a better performing chipset.)

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Oh, turns out I was wrong about the GPU, not that it matters when porting though.
Anyway, CPUs, yeah, but use the Cortex-A53 ARM CPU. (But the A7000 performs with the CPU better because the A7000 has a better performing chipset.)
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Forget about porting a7k ROMs to a6k.
Unless you want bricked device.

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Forget about porting a7k ROMs to a6k.
Unless you want bricked device.
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Oooh? Is it because the differient chipset?

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Oooh? Is it because the differient chipset?
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Yep.