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Hi,
Do I need a standalone WiFi network available to cast from my device to the TV or not?
Will I be able to go to friend and cast something from my tablet to his TV even thou he does not have WiFi at home?
Yes, you need a WiFi network and an Internet connection accessible from that.
If you just have your tablet and Chromecast, the Chromecast won't be able to find a network, as your tablet is not a WiFi access point.
I don't know of anyone who has tried setting up their phone/tablet as a WiFi hot spot and connecting Chromecast to that. I'm not certain how Android hotspot NATs and/or isolates clients.
Best to just bring a small wireless router. There are a number of "travel router" devices that have an internal battery or can be powered via USB.
Connect it to your friend's Internet connection, then off you go.
If the goal is just to show stuff from your tablet on your friend's TV, it might be easier/cheaper to just go hardwired with an HDMI or VGA output adapter for your tablet, if it has that option.
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I don't know of anyone who has tried setting up their phone/tablet as a WiFi hot spot and connecting Chromecast to that. I'm not certain how Android hotspot NATs and/or isolates clients.
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ooOOoo interesting idea.
I'll have to try that this weekend.
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ooOOoo interesting idea.
I'll have to try that this weekend.
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Remember that Chromecast still needs a connection to the Internet in order to negotiate the application launch.
Thus the Hotspot. Just might work.
My friend is technologically challenged
He's got no internet at home apart from out mobile phones which we can use for internet at his place...
So, can I use my phone's Wifi hotspot to and use my phone/tablet to stream the web to his TV?
How does the Chrome cast work? Is the tablet interphase only used to set up a link between the dongle and the wifi sender/ router?
For native apps, Chromecast works more like a your phone/tablet in the fact that it pulls the requested data and plays on its own. The video isn't going from the Internet to your phone/tablet, then from your phone/tablet to the Chromecast, your phone/tablet "hands off" the request to the Chromecast and the video goes directly from the Internet to the Chromecast. The control via tablet/phone is done through a "side" channel that Chromecast listens on, which also lets your phone/tablet know what Chromecast is doing.
For example, YouTube...
You open YouTube on your phone/tablet
You find a video
You cast it to your Chromecast
Chromecast "phones home" to Google to figure out how to handle the request (I think)
Google replies with "Use the YouTube app"
Chromecast runs its YouTube app to open the link and starts playing
While it's playing on, Chromecast sends its status to your phone/tablet and listens for control commands.
So... Using your phone's WiFi Hotspot for the Chromecast might (should?) work, and what'll happen is Chromecast will connect to your phone via WiFi, and your phone will connect to Internet via mobile network.
In this case the streaming performance will be limited by both your phone's mobile data speed as well as the WiFi connection speed/stability between your phone and the Chromecast.
While I don't necessarily think this will provide a good viewing experience, it's an interesting experiment.
If you have a rooted Chromecast with Kyocast, you should be able to use the un-timebombed AllCast/AirCast to stream video stored on your phone to the Chromecast. It'll still use mobile data to "phone home" (to the Kyocast server) to figure out how to deal with the request, which will launch the AllCast/AirCast magic. From there I believe the video data will stream directly from your phone to the Chromecast, not using your mobile data... I think.
bhiga said:
For native apps, Chromecast works more like a your phone/tablet in the fact that it pulls the requested data and plays on its own. The video isn't going from the Internet to your phone/tablet, then from your phone/tablet to the Chromecast, your phone/tablet "hands off" the request to the Chromecast and the video goes directly from the Internet to the Chromecast. The control via tablet/phone is done through a "side" channel that Chromecast listens on, which also lets your phone/tablet know what Chromecast is doing.
For example, YouTube...
You open YouTube on your phone/tablet
You find a video
You cast it to your Chromecast
Chromecast "phones home" to Google to figure out how to handle the request (I think)
Google replies with "Use the YouTube app"
Chromecast runs its YouTube app to open the link and starts playing
While it's playing on, Chromecast sends its status to your phone/tablet and listens for control commands.
So... Using your phone's WiFi Hotspot for the Chromecast might (should?) work, and what'll happen is Chromecast will connect to your phone via WiFi, and your phone will connect to Internet via mobile network.
In this case the streaming performance will be limited by both your phone's mobile data speed as well as the WiFi connection speed/stability between your phone and the Chromecast.
While I don't necessarily think this will provide a good viewing experience, it's an interesting experiment.
If you have a rooted Chromecast with Kyocast, you should be able to use the un-timebombed AllCast/AirCast to stream video stored on your phone to the Chromecast. It'll still use mobile data to "phone home" (to the Kyocast server) to figure out how to deal with the request, which will launch the AllCast/AirCast magic. From there I believe the video data will stream directly from your phone to the Chromecast, not using your mobile data... I think.
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Thanx so much for all this data. Not sure whether I wanna try the rooting now. Will wait to see what Google has in store in the next month. It's rooting the dongle easy? Rooting phones comes naturally by now...
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 4
It's really easy with Flashcast but if your Chromecast has been connected to the Internet for more than a few minutes then it has probably auto updated to a non-root able state.
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ooOOoo interesting idea.
I'll have to try that this weekend.
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I've been doing that for weeks now, if you access 3G (4G) from your device then set it as an access point, and connect to its network with CC. Then all you need is something else to connect to Netflix and the same WiFi access point (a tablet for example or another phone) and you can send it to CC.
The other device is necessary because the Netflix app doesn't show the CC share icon when connected to 3G, whereas on the other device because it's connected to 3G through a mobile WiFi access point it does.
You could use a MiFi instead.
I use it in hotels this way with the CC plugged into the hotel TV (if I'm lucky)
I Just bought a Chromecast and am wondering is there a way to Mirror my Samsung galaxy s4 to Chromecast without having the Chromecast connected to a wifi source?
I know you can Mirror with the "Chromecast app" while the Chromecast is connected to a wifi source.
but that defeats the purpose to me. You see I only use my hotspot with my S4 and it will of course not allow you to use hotspot while using wifi obviously.
So I was wondering if I bought the "Allcast app" if that or something like that will allow me to Mirror with the Chromecast without having the Chromecast connected to a wifi source similar to DLNA?
Thanks so much in advance!!
P.S. If I put this thead in the wrong place I am very Sorry.
please just move it if necessary.
No, Chromecast will do nothing without Internet. Because it gets the apps that it runs from the Internet...
Some folks have been able to get WiFi and hotspot working simultaneously, but I think that's largely dependent upon the ROM - and possibly luck.
Anyone know if I can mirror my Nexus 6 to my TV using Chromecast without WifI? I've gotten screen casting to work through wifi direct and a miracast dongle, but I can't get Netflix to work. I don't want to stream content, just mirror my device. So would Chromecast work for this function?
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Anyone know if I can mirror my Nexus 6 to my TV using Chromecast without WifI? I've gotten screen casting to work through wifi direct and a miracast dongle, but I can't get Netflix to work. I don't want to stream content, just mirror my device. So would Chromecast work for this function?
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You don't need to mirror Netflix if you have a Chromecast as it has Netflix support built in and all you do is send the content to the CCast via the mobile app and the CCast takes over without needing the mobile device anymore...
And the quality will be MUCH better than anything you would get by screen casting.
But you will need internet access fr the CCast...It does nothing but boot up without one.
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You don't need to mirror Netflix if you have a Chromecast as it has Netflix support built in and all you do is send the content to the CCast via the mobile app and the CCast takes over without needing the mobile device anymore...
And the quality will be MUCH better than anything you would get by screen casting.
But you will need internet access fr the CCast...It does nothing but boot up without one.
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Thanks. Ideally I want to mirror Netflix from my Nexus 6 to my TV, not stream to Chromecast. Still working on it though.
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Thanks. Ideally I want to mirror Netflix from my Nexus 6 to my TV, not stream to Chromecast. Still working on it though.
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CCast won't work without Internet PERIOD!
Sure you could mirror your device but you still need Internet.
And there is no way to get to your TV without some device, a SmartTV with DLNA support (no go for Netflix), or a Chromecast with Internet.
And if you have a smart TV chances are likely you can get the netflix app and get rid of the Mobile device altogether....
Even if you could mirror Netflix will NEVER allow you to because it protects it's screen from being copied and even if they didn't do that the quality would be so horrible compared to a Smart TV app, Chromecast streaming or HDMI cable!
OP:
I was in the same boat as you, then I realized that I had an old razr laying around. So I turned on tethering with my note 3, then setup the chromecast via the razr. I can now cast and mirror my screen on the note 3.
Just have to keep the razr connected to my hotspot.
You know there is a thread here someplace where someone go tethering and CCast control working on the same device...
Might be worth a search.
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OP:
I was in the same boat as you, then I realized that I had an old razr laying around. So I turned on tethering with my note 3, then setup the chromecast via the razr. I can now cast and mirror my screen on the note 3.
Just have to keep the razr connected to my hotspot.
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Brex need a bit of clarification. Note 3 has carrier data. Razr does NOT have carrier data. Chromecast not connected to internet.
You turn on the Note 3 hotspot - Connect the Razr to the Note 3 hotspot. Open the Chromecast App on the Razr to connect to the Chromecast. Activate Cast Screen on the Note 3 - now can cast the Note 3 screen to the Chromecast. Is this correct?
Thanks in Advance - DJC
I have since sold my chromecast, but you are essentially right, but once set up, I did not have to do anything with the razr, i just keep it on and plugged in behind my tv.
Of course I have unlimited data, so that didn't bother me, if you are on a tiered plan, this might not be a good solution for you.
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yes, n3 has data, using carrier data, but not using any wifi, just mobile hotspot via n3.
swc2001 said:
I Just bought a Chromecast and am wondering is there a way to Mirror my Samsung galaxy s4 to Chromecast without having the Chromecast connected to a wifi source?
I know you can Mirror with the "Chromecast app" while the Chromecast is connected to a wifi source.
but that defeats the purpose to me. You see I only use my hotspot with my S4 and it will of course not allow you to use hotspot while using wifi obviously.
So I was wondering if I bought the "Allcast app" if that or something like that will allow me to Mirror with the Chromecast without having the Chromecast connected to a wifi source similar to DLNA?
Thanks so much in advance!!
P.S. If I put this thead in the wrong place I am very Sorry.
please just move it if necessary.
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I used a Sony BDPS2200 Blu-Ray player to screen mirror Netflix from my S4 to BR/TV using T-Mobile unlimited data plan. I recently thought I could continue to do so with my Nexus 6 (S4 shot craps), but only to find out not only do I need a Chromecast, but also need cable/WiFi (found that out after buying a CCast). Cannot use phone unlimited data now. Google suckered me. Contemplating going back to Samsung.
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Asphyx said:
CCast won't work without Internet PERIOD!
Sure you could mirror your device but you still need Internet.
And there is no way to get to your TV without some device, a SmartTV with DLNA support (no go for Netflix), or a Chromecast with Internet.
And if you have a smart TV chances are likely you can get the netflix app and get rid of the Mobile device altogether....
Even if you could mirror Netflix will NEVER allow you to because it protects it's screen from being copied and even if they didn't do that the quality would be so horrible compared to a Smart TV app, Chromecast streaming or HDMI cable!
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I used a Sony BDPS2200 Blu-Ray player to screen mirror Netflix (Netflix did not block) from my S4 to BR/TV using T-Mobile unlimited data plan. I recently thought I could continue to do so with my Nexus 6 (S4 shot craps), but only to find out not only do I need a Chromecast, but also need cable/WiFi (found that out after buying a CCast). Cannot use phone unlimited data now. Google suckered me. Contemplating going back to Samsung.
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I used a Sony BDPS2200 Blu-Ray player to screen mirror Netflix (Netflix did not block) from my S4 to BR/TV using T-Mobile unlimited data plan. I recently thought I could continue to do so with my Nexus 6 (S4 shot craps), but only to find out not only do I need a Chromecast, but also need cable/WiFi (found that out after buying a CCast). Cannot use phone unlimited data now. Google suckered me. Contemplating going back to Samsung.
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If you could screen-mirror to your Blu-ray player, why can't you screen-mirror from your Nexus 6? Does the Nexus 6 no longer support Miracast? It's been built-in since late (4.2/4.3) Jellybean.
You *might* be able to use your phone's hotspot, but it depends on whether you can talk to Chromecast while simultaneously using the hotspot (ie, does your phone also look like a device on its hotspot LAN). Sometimes it requires a third device to control Chromecast.
Also, your Blu-ray player doesn't support Netflix natively??
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If you could screen-mirror to your Blu-ray player, why can't you screen-mirror from your Nexus 6? Does the Nexus 6 no longer support Miracast? It's been built-in since late (4.2/4.3) Jellybean.
You *might* be able to use your phone's hotspot, but it depends on whether you can talk to Chromecast while simultaneously using the hotspot (ie, does your phone also look like a device on its hotspot LAN). Sometimes it requires a third device to control Chromecast.
Also, your Blu-ray player doesn't support Netflix natively??
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The whole point is I was able to use unlimited data from Samsung Galaxy S4 phone (not hot-spot which is limited) with Netflix app on phone. Each (S4 phone and Sony BR player) had screen mirroring mode that would enable connection to my TV. If I use Netflix embedded on a blu-ray player or TV, it must have separate broadband. This is also the problem with the Google Nexus 6 and Chromecast. Must have stand alone broadband wifi (not the unlimited data on my phone).
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The whole point is I was able to use unlimited data from Samsung Galaxy S4 phone (not hot-spot which is limited) with Netflix app on phone. Each (S4 phone and Sony BR player) had screen mirroring mode that would enable connection to my TV.
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I see on the data access part, I'm a bit confused on the BR player's involvement.
Were you screen mirroring from the S4 to the BR player?
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I see on the data access part, I'm a bit confused on the BR player's involvement.
Were you screen mirroring from the S4 to the BR player?
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Yes, I was screen mirroring from S4 to Sony BR player.
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Yes, I was screen mirroring from S4 to Sony BR player.
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I see.
I read [Q] Nexus 6 Miracast? to find (surprisingly) that Miracast is not available on the Nexus 6, though it does seem you can work around that. But certain apps that requires HDCP (Netflix, Hulu, etc) may be problematic.
It would work on a Chromecast, but then you can't use your phone's data connection.
If your phone can be tethered, I would try a mobile router that can share a cellular data connection like the ones from Cradlepoint and TP-Link. That assumes your provider doesn't charge you for tethering.
Turn on hotspot, connect Chromecast to hotspot, start screen casting, turn off data but leave on hotspot and it will STILL be casting without internet! Good luck!
If the network has internet initially, it buys me the time to enable screen casting after which the link remains up. The problem is when powering on the chromecast without internet access. It effectively disables the device and makes it invisible to the screen cast search.
Is there any way to circumvent this limitation? I don't need the chromecast to have any access to the internet at all for my usage.
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If the network has internet initially, it buys me the time to enable screen casting after which the link remains up. The problem is when powering on the chromecast without internet access. It effectively disables the device and makes it invisible to the screen cast search.
Is there any way to circumvent this limitation? I don't need the chromecast to have any access to the internet at all for my usage.
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Nope the CCast needs Internet to load the app it uses to display your screen or anything that is being streamed to it!
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Nope the CCast needs Internet to load the app it uses to display your screen or anything that is being streamed to it!
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So it might be theoretically possible to supply that app in the closed network?
It doesn't need the internet for screen casting at all, just the in-app chromecast link, which I don't use at all. I just use the mirroring functionality.
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So it might be theoretically possible to supply that app in the closed network?
It doesn't need the internet for screen casting at all, just the in-app chromecast link, which I don't use at all. I just use the mirroring functionality.
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Nope!
Not unless it is rooted and you have your own local Whitelisting that points to your own app....
And you would STILL have to fnd some way of downloading and storing a local version of the mirroring app that is normally loaded from the internet to point to with your custom whitelist.
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Nope!
Not unless it is rooted and you have your own local Whitelisting that points to your own app....
And you would STILL have to fnd some way of downloading and storing a local version of the mirroring app that is normally loaded from the internet to point to with your custom whitelist.
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im not able to do any kind of "offline" playback
which was a big part of me rooting ...
so how would i go about trying to have a local app for the whitelist etc ....
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im not able to do any kind of "offline" playback
which was a big part of me rooting ...
so how would i go about trying to have a local app for the whitelist etc ....
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Next to impossible....
The playback will stay offline but it still needs an internet connection to load the player that will do the playback....
i've been googling for hours. the whole world is crying out for this.. Give me Chromecast mirroring without internet!
Surely with a rooted phone and rooted CC it must be achievable.
Anyone ever log where the CC goes looking for the streaming app? If we can work out that surely we can:
Download it manually.
Host the app on laptop/tablet - Redirect via DNS or webserver.. proxy.. something!..
I may try and hook up my CC through my wifi internet sharing so i can wireshark to see where and what its doing via the internet.. so i can then attempt to spoof it..
(I really want to get this working on WifiAP alone - no internet). (I got a lot of places with no internet whatsover available).
Any other suggestions would be appreciated..
(I dont have a rooted CC at this point so i may have trouble).
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i've been googling for hours. the whole world is crying out for this.. Give me Chromecast mirroring without internet!
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What you want to look at using is Miracast....But it requires having a device that supports it.
Most Miracast Dongles also have a DLNA Mode that will allow you to send streams of content to directly play on it allowing you to use other apps on the launching device.
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What you want to look at using is Miracast....But it requires having a device that supports it.
Most Miracast Dongles also have a DLNA Mode that will allow you to send streams of content to directly play on it allowing you to use other apps on the launching device.
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I happen to be in a particularly rare (I hope) situation as the HTC One m7 that I have cannot properly do miracasting but can do chromecasting very well. By not properly, I mean netflix screen remains black on the receiving device when attempting to miracast.
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I happen to be in a particularly rare (I hope) situation as the HTC One m7 that I have cannot properly do miracasting but can do chromecasting very well. By not properly, I mean netflix screen remains black on the receiving device when attempting to miracast.
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Yep there is a lot involved in getting any of these to work due to the limitations of both systems...
There are other ways to go about getting what you want...
1 - Get a Roku which you can send content to using a variety of means or control directly if you get a model with a remote.
2 - Get one of the many Android Sticks and load up a DLNA player (like aVia) that most CCast capable apps can send content to directly.
3 - If you have a cell phone simply buy and add a Mobile Hotspot device to the account that shares your data allotment. You won't be using a lot of data if all you are doing is streaming local content, just the small data needed to load up the receiver app the CCast needs. And you have Data and Internet capability anywhere when you need it.
But the CCast itself is meant to be little more than adding some smart capability to a TV which in most cases requires internet access.
That's why it's so cheap because it doesn't require any storage to keep Apps on the device it gets it all from the Internet....
Unfortunately it also gives Google complete control of what can be displayed on the device which is why everyone was so quick to root the device.
Perhaps in the future some Developer will make a custom rom that allows direct streaming without the need for Internet connection...
But who knows what kind of hornets nest that might stir up with the content providers. Right now everyone agrees the most important thing is to get more support from content providers for the CCast Device and concept.
Anything that might get them to shy away is probably not worth doing right now
Asphyx said:
Yep there is a lot involved in getting any of these to work due to the limitations of both systems...
There are other ways to go about getting what you want...
1 - Get a Roku which you can send content to using a variety of means or control directly if you get a model with a remote.
2 - Get one of the many Android Sticks and load up a DLNA player (like aVia) that most CCast capable apps can send content to directly.
3 - If you have a cell phone simply buy and add a Mobile Hotspot device to the account that shares your data allotment. You won't be using a lot of data if all you are doing is streaming local content, just the small data needed to load up the receiver app the CCast needs. And you have Data and Internet capability anywhere when you need it.
But the CCast itself is meant to be little more than adding some smart capability to a TV which in most cases requires internet access.
That's why it's so cheap because it doesn't require any storage to keep Apps on the device it gets it all from the Internet....
Unfortunately it also gives Google complete control of what can be displayed on the device which is why everyone was so quick to root the device.
Perhaps in the future some Developer will make a custom rom that allows direct streaming without the need for Internet connection...
But who knows what kind of hornets nest that might stir up with the content providers. Right now everyone agrees the most important thing is to get more support from content providers for the CCast Device and concept.
Anything that might get them to shy away is probably not worth doing right now
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Hello. I'm trying to mirror my new Nexus 6 to my TV using a Microsoft Wireless Display adapter. The N6 does not officially support miracast, but I enabled through a build.prop edit and using WiFi Direct. It works perfect for everything except Netflix and Hulu (just audio works with a black screen and controls displaying). I'm guessing this is a HDCP/DRM problem. Anyway around this? Would Chromecast work? The N6 does support CC., but I DO NOT have internet in my home. I don't want to stream anything on the TV. Just stream on my phone and display on the TV. If I use hotspot to establish an initial connection for the Chromecast, then turn the hotspot off, would mirroring still work?
Thanks
Direct answer I think is no if you need to get external content. If you enable a hotspot, you will be able to hook the chromecast up to your phone and it will have internet. You would then be stuck as to connect to the chromecast you would have to disable the hotspot. After doing that, your chromecast is thrown into the abyss and needs a new network to connect to.
If your intended usage is in-home then you just need a chromecast pushing device in an isolated wifi network. That wifi network can be your phone with tethering on. You can use another phone (doesn't need data, just wifi) to cast to your chromecast and get data over the tethered connection.
If you want to cast a local file to chromecast, you can get any cheapo router that would be connected to nothing and that should all work smoothly without even using a hotspot.
I happen to be in the same boat when it comes to black screen miracast and yes I think it is an HDCP problem. I am searching high and low for a way to disable HDCP checking when outputing over wifi.
Useful info though not about my phone or yours:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/help/how-to-skip-disable-hdcp-checkcan-t2854550
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...-mirroring-broken-t2599349/page2#post57456682
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660448&page=2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49265142&postcount=118
ryan4a said:
Hello. I'm trying to mirror my new Nexus 6 to my TV using a Microsoft Wireless Display adapter. The N6 does not officially support miracast, but I enabled through a build.prop edit and using WiFi Direct. It works perfect for everything except Netflix and Hulu (just audio works with a black screen and controls displaying). I'm guessing this is a HDCP/DRM problem. Anyway around this? Would Chromecast work? The N6 does support CC., but I DO NOT have internet in my home. I don't want to stream anything on the TV. Just stream on my phone and display on the TV. If I use hotspot to establish an initial connection for the Chromecast, then turn the hotspot off, would mirroring still work?
Thanks
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No your Video issue is probably a codec issue with your wireless display adapter.
I'm pretty sure also that Netflix and Hulu have protected their displays so that screen casting would not work.
It's not HDCP/DRM per say but it is a way of protecting the content from being copied.
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Direct answer I think is no if you need to get external content. If you enable a hotspot, you will be able to hook the chromecast up to your phone and it will have internet. You would then be stuck as to connect to the chromecast you would have to disable the hotspot. After doing that, your chromecast is thrown into the abyss and needs a new network to connect to.
If your intended usage is in-home then you just need a chromecast pushing device in an isolated wifi network. That wifi network can be your phone with tethering on. You can use another phone (doesn't need data, just wifi) to cast to your chromecast and get data over the tethered connection.
If you want to cast a local file to chromecast, you can get any cheapo router that would be connected to nothing and that should all work smoothly without even using a hotspot.
I happen to be in the same boat when it comes to black screen miracast and yes I think it is an HDCP problem. I am searching high and low for a way to disable HDCP checking when outputing over wifi.
Useful info though not about my phone or yours:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/help/how-to-skip-disable-hdcp-checkcan-t2854550
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...-mirroring-broken-t2599349/page2#post57456682
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660448&page=2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49265142&postcount=118
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Thanks. This solution worked...sort of. I'm was able to tether my data from my Nexus 6 to an ipad and the chromecast to establish the initial connection. Now, I disconnect the ipad and the chromecast will still be connected to my tethered network. This allows me to stream Netflix and also mirror local content using only the chromecast and my tethered N6. It is a workaround, but I was hoping to use pure miracast and avoid tethering. But oh well.
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Asphyx said:
No your Video issue is probably a codec issue with your wireless display adapter.
I'm pretty sure also that Netflix and Hulu have protected their displays so that screen casting would not work.
It's not HDCP/DRM per say but it is a way of protecting the content from being copied.
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Thanks. That's what I thought too. See my response above.Looks like I'll be returning the microsoft adapter, unless the following will eventually work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/nexus-6-miracast-t2952461/post57462471#post57462471
Asphyx said:
No your Video issue is probably a codec issue with your wireless display adapter.
I'm pretty sure also that Netflix and Hulu have protected their displays so that screen casting would not work.
It's not HDCP/DRM per say but it is a way of protecting the content from being copied.
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Is there any way around this limitation?
ryan4a said:
Thanks. This solution worked...sort of. I'm was able to tether my data from my Nexus 6 to an ipad and the chromecast to establish the initial connection. Now, I disconnect the ipad and the chromecast will still be connected to my tethered network. This allows me to stream Netflix and also mirror local content using only the chromecast and my tethered N6. It is a workaround, but I was hoping to use pure miracast and avoid tethering. But oh well.
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Thanks. That's what I thought too. See my response above.Looks like I'll be returning the microsoft adapter, unless the following will eventually work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/nexus-6-miracast-t2952461/post57462471#post57462471
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Even better solution - try this out:
You can set up a mobile hotspot, pair the chromecast to that hotspot one time with another android device, and than go into the chromecast app on the hotspot phone, and finally ignore turning wifi back on and just cast screen to the chromecast. It works flawlessly.
Xenosis said:
Even better solution - try this out:
You can set up a mobile hotspot, pair the chromecast to that hotspot one time with another android device, and than go into the chromecast app on the hotspot phone, and finally ignore turning wifi back on and just cast screen to the chromecast. It works flawlessly.
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Thanks. Not sure I know what you mean. I'm really trying to eliminate the need for hotspot completely. I have an unlimited data plant and I'm worried AT&T will find out about my unauthorized tethering, then force me into a capped plan.
ryan4a said:
Thanks. Not sure I know what you mean. I'm really trying to eliminate the need for hotspot completely. I have an unlimited data plant and I'm worried AT&T will find out about my unauthorized tethering, then force me into a capped plan.
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That's what's great about using screen cast. The chromecast won't actually be pulling data from the hotspot. It's somehow piggybacking on the devices hotspot wifi network subnet and just pushing data directly to the chromecast. Your phone will authentically be pulling any stream data from your data plan as it would normally.
ie the chromecast is just a receiver in this configuration. In terms of actually casting an app, I'm not even sure if that is possible so I don't think you'd even accidentally be having your chromecast use data.
There would be the small amount of chromecast traffic checking for an update or whatever it does idly and that would go out over your phones data.
To be safe I would recommend something like this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.formichelli.tetheringfix&hl=en
I don't think they could force you to change plans but they could charge you for the additional hotspot service. A working tether fix should spoof any hotspot traffic as your phone. Typically these giant companies aren't worried about the small-fry data users (talking insignificant here with a chromecast).
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That's what's great about using screen cast. The chromecast won't actually be pulling data from the hotspot. It's somehow piggybacking on the devices hotspot wifi network subnet and just pushing data directly to the chromecast. Your phone will authentically be pulling any stream data from your data plan as it would normally.
ie the chromecast is just a receiver in this configuration. In terms of actually casting an app, I'm not even sure if that is possible so I don't think you'd even accidentally be having your chromecast use data.
There would be the small amount of chromecast traffic checking for an update or whatever it does idly and that would go out over your phones data.
To be safe I would recommend something like this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.formichelli.tetheringfix&hl=en
I don't think they could force you to change plans but they could charge you for the additional hotspot service. A working tether fix should spoof any hotspot traffic as your phone. Typically these giant companies aren't worried about the small-fry data users (talking insignificant here with a chromecast).
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Right...this method works for casting the screen and playing YouTube videos only. But if I want to use Netflix or Hulu, I have to cast it through the chromecast. When I try to simply mirror Netflix, I get the same black screen I get when using a regular miracast dongle. So the chromecast is using my data, but maybe it would be the same amount as if I was streaming Netflix directly on my phone.
And here is how I enabled tethering on an unlimited plant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wF2BZ2gx7r8
Not sure if this uses the same method as the app you referenced above, or if AT&T will notice.
ryan4a said:
Right...this method works for casting the screen and playing YouTube videos only. But if I want to use Netflix or Hulu, I have to cast it through the chromecast. When I try to simply mirror Netflix, I get the same black screen I get when using a regular miracast dongle. So the chromecast is using my data, but maybe it would be the same amount as if I was streaming Netflix directly on my phone.
And here is how I enabled tethering on an unlimited plant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wF2BZ2gx7r8
Not sure if this uses the same method as the app you referenced above, or if AT&T will notice.
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Hmm.. That is too bad. I have the same miracast problem with Netflix but chromecast always worked for screen casting (whole OS) and normal app-based casting.
So I just set up my chromecast to connect to my Nexus 6p over a wifi-hotspot... this way I can cast the phone screen without having an actual wifi connection.
That said, I'm wondering if I'm still using my cell data if I'm streaming local media? I'm not exactly sure how this setup works so thought I'd ask.
So, for example, if I have a movie on my phone, have the chromecast connected to the phone via a wifi-hotspot, and then cast that movie to a TV (or whatever hdmi display) - am I chewing through my cellular data just as though I was streaming the movie from some other source (e.g. nextflix)?? Or is it just a direct beam (or whatever) and I'm not actually using my cell data?
Hope that question makes sense. Thanks for the info!
Excellent question! I too am looking for an answer.
The data used depends on where the data is coming from....
If the data doesn't come FROM Verizon then it should not count towards your quota.
But any casting requires some data use from the carrier if just to load the player required for the cast.
Trying to set up something in my camper so that I can watch downloaded movies or shows from my phones. I have a Note 3 with android 5.0.2 and miracast seems to be broken? When the Note 3 had 4.4 it worked fine and I used a Sony dvd player that it worked with just fine. It "sees" the player but won't cast to it.
I have a Google Pixel XL that does not see the dvd player for some reason. I brought a wifi router into the camper and tried to set up a chromecast (Gen 1). I can get it set up but then neither device, when connected to same wifi, see the device so that I can cast to it. I am going to grab a Gen 2 model from home and see if this will work.
Is there a simpler way to make this work? It was so easy just using miracast and now this has turned into a massive headache.
If you have the Stock FW on the CC, please ensure, that guest mode is enabled (via Google home). In this case the CC provided an own Wifi net if needed.
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If you have the Stock FW on the CC, please ensure, that guest mode is enabled (via Google home). In this case the CC provided an own Wifi net if needed.
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I've never been able to get the guest mode to work. It seems like no matter what the chromecast still needs an actual internet connection, even if only casting a movie/picture right from device.
So far what works for me but it's annoying. I have my actual Verizon phone turned on as hotspot, Set up the chromecast to connect to hotspot. I leave it up and running. My Note 3 has my movies on it so I connect to same hotspot and cast using Allcast app...I think. That's the only app that even seems to find the chromecast. Yes I have Google Home installed on both devices. If I turn off the hotspot Chromecast stops working. Neither device finds the chromecast after that unless I turn hotspot back on. Yes guest mode is turned on. A pin is never displayed but since devices don't see it it won't help anyway.
I had a spare wifi router and did the same test. Still need an actual data connection. If no data connection the devices do not see the Chromecast.
Technology is really frustrating at times. Miracast worked just fine until Google didn't like it and made the Chromecast. The Note 3 is old and close to being dead so I am not buying a MHL adapter for it nor will I buy a new tv that has something built in that does not seems to work either. Many other camping people are starting to run into this issue as well.
if you go in Google Home under your device, Settings, there is a possibility to switch the guest mode on. This means the CC works like a hot spot. Its written also on the screen. Every device, which is not in your network, could get an access. I don't know, at which time the guest mode will be disabled automatically. Maybe at this time, if you stream something over your own network to the CC.
Hi,
I bought a cheap "MiraCast" dongle from eBay that works great. Less than $14 with shipping included from China. They list them as a "2nd Generation Chromecast 2" screen mirroring devices, a little misleading, but I'm happy with the unit, as it was brand new, in a very nice box I might add. If you need a link, then PM me, or reply here.
PS, they picture a Chromecast shape, but the lead with a Wi-Fi antenna is a giveaway. Here is a link to get you started, and actually is titled better than the one I bought, which is sold out. There are lots more like it at varying prices. https://m.ebay.com/itm/2-Digital-HD...d=202018167243&_trksid=p2349624.c100408.m2460
Motorhome option to cast from phone or tablet or TV without Wi-Fi or hotspot connecti
I was looking at a thread that discuss different connectivity options without Wi-Fi but could not figure it out. Are there any updates to this? Right now the only results that I have is to hardwire an iPhone to the TV using the HDMI connection and Apple Adapter device. The Mira cast Dongle works most of the time but is intermittent at best.
My son upgraded to an iphone so I got his old S7. Using it and the sony dvd player I can use miracast again.
I have also set up my main phone as a wifi hotspot and connected a chromecast and my S7 to it as well and been able to cast. This method ties up both devices and then they also both need to be plugged in. My wifes Iphone can also cast to the chromecast when connected to my hotspot.
Best I can come up with for now.