Hi Devs,
Is this possible? Doesn't seem like even Marshmallow made it to Fire.
I'm a newbie and am learning the process of building custom roms, and others. Is porting the respective drivers for hardware specific to Fire the biggest hurdle in porting an android version for it?
Can any of you point me to the resources specific to Amazon fire if possible. A lot of things are new, and it gets very confusing sometimes.
Thanks,
hi4s4 said:
Hi Devs,
Is this possible? Doesn't seem like even Marshmallow made it to Fire.
I'm a newbie and am learning the process of building custom roms, and others. Is porting the respective drivers for hardware specific to Fire the biggest hurdle in porting an android version for it?
Can any of you point me to the resources specific to Amazon fire if possible. A lot of things are new, and it gets very confusing sometimes.
Thanks,
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Only if the bootloader is unlocked by Amazon, which so far they have refused to do so.
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zerbey said:
Only if the bootloader is unlocked by Amazon, which so far they have refused to do so.
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But, it is still available for <5.2.1 using Chainfire or even TWRP for 5.0.1. No marshmallow builds showed up there either.
hi4s4 said:
But, it is still available for <5.2.1 using Chainfire or even TWRP for 5.0.1. No marshmallow builds showed up there either.
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No, are limited to Lollipop only.
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I know that the bootloader is locked on the 2013 KFHD and we're currently waiting for a workaround for that. And we also need TWRP which has not been recompiled for the 2013 KFHD.
However, I have a fastboot cable. I don't necessarily need TWRP nor do I have to wait for the bootloader to be fixed, correct? If I am correct in my assumption, can someone provide me with some resources as to how I might be able to get something like CM11 working on my KFHD? Or is there some sort of dev IRC channel that I can go to for help? I have extensive experience with C/C++ and the unix environment, so I don't need a noob-friendly tutorial.
Thanks.
cheesylard said:
I know that the bootloader is locked on the 2013 KFHD and we're currently waiting for a workaround for that. And we also need TWRP which has not been recompiled for the 2013 KFHD.
However, I have a fastboot cable. I don't necessarily need TWRP nor do I have to wait for the bootloader to be fixed, correct? If I am correct in my assumption, can someone provide me with some resources as to how I might be able to get something like CM11 working on my KFHD? Or is there some sort of dev IRC channel that I can go to for help? I have extensive experience with C/C++ and the unix environment, so I don't need a noob-friendly tutorial.
Thanks.
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There is many threads in this forum for fast boot KFHD you can search by CM11 or C/C++. Hope you will find what you were looking for....
You can't right now. There are no exploits for the bootloader.
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LinearEquation said:
You can't right now. There are no exploits for the bootloader.
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Doesn't having a fastboot cable get rid of the need for an unlocked bootloader? It's used for recovery, right? So in theory I could just flash any image I want to the device.
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Doesn't having a fastboot cable get rid of the need for an unlocked bootloader? It's used for recovery, right? So in theory I could just flash any image I want to the device.
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No you can't do that. The images have to be specific and there has to be an exploit to unlock the bootloader or in the case of most of the Kindle series, flash a 2nd bootloader. It sounds good but it won't work. Until an exploit is found the only thing that could maybe be flashed are signed images from Amazon made specifically to flash through fastboot. I don't see them putting them on the open market anytime soon.
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No you can't do that. The images have to be specific and there has to be an exploit to unlock the bootloader or in the case of most of the Kindle series, flash a 2nd bootloader. It sounds good but it won't work. Until an exploit is found the only thing that could maybe be flashed are signed images from Amazon made specifically to flash through fastboot. I don't see them putting them on the open market anytime soon.
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Ah, so the images have to be signed... that sucks. Thanks for the explanation. I guess I'll just wait for an exploit like everyone else
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Ah, so the images have to be signed... that sucks. Thanks for the explanation. I guess I'll just wait for an exploit like everyone else
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ROMs are built for specific hardware too. The Fire HD 2012 and the Fire HD 2013 vastly different hardware wise.
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ROMs are built for specific hardware too. The Fire HD 2012 and the Fire HD 2013 vastly different hardware wise.
>>>Sent from my homebuilt TARDIS running Android 4.4... or maybe it's a rooted Kindle Fire HD running CyanogenMod 11<<<
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Is anybody actively working on roms for the 2013 KFHD 7"? Do we have anything like an ETA?
fivelon said:
Is anybody actively working on roms for the 2013 KFHD 7"? Do we have anything like an ETA?
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I'm pretty sure we'd need an exploit before people would be able to start working on ROMs, but I may be wrong.
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I'm pretty sure we'd need an exploit before people would be able to start working on ROMs, but I may be wrong.
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Yeah, you're correct.
:good: lol
Will our get Android lollipop through Cyanogenmod?
I doubt it as we can't even get the official KK bootloader which may or may not be required for Lollipop.
I tried Android L on my Nexus 4 and didn't really like the new interface.
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I doubt it as we can't even get the official KK bootloader which may or may not be required for Lollipop.
I tried Android L on my Nexus 4 and didn't really like the new interface.
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Im actually quite content with my custom rom kitkat with the Gem Flat skin on top of it. (really quite stable just ui crash twice per week).
But then the unthinkable thing happens with one of the oldest moto droid devices went from ICS to Kitkat without any official updates due to alot of developers.
Anything is possible
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Will our get Android lollipop through Cyanogenmod?
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I doubt it as we can't even get the official KK bootloader which may or may not be required for Lollipop.
I tried Android L on my Nexus 4 and didn't really like the new interface.
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I guess its standard to question if we will see something BEFORE THE ACTUAL PUBLIC RELEASE HAPPENS AND BEFORE CYANOGENMOD, WHICH IS NOT MOTOROLA, GETS THEIR HANDS ON IT TO SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO ABOUT PUSHING IT OUT TO OUR DEVICES.
Btw, as far as that bootloader point goes, ask yourself this, do the older devices that got left behind on GB or ICS need updated bootloaders to run KK? B/c i can guarantee i can grab my Atrix 4G or my Droid X and see KK running on both of them with GB bootloaders.
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Is this a signal?
I Think, yes.
Because, this night, someone did an Android L ROM For the HTC Evo 3D [POST]
I Remember, this phone has come to the world running GB, well, ROM Is still buggy, but see, that device more older than Atrix HD, I Don't know if that device has an ''updated'' bootloader [like bootloader for ICS or JB], But i think this would be a great news for this device.
I Already tried Lollipop on a Nexus 4 [Is the official update], an i really liked it. i think is better than KK, [ppl comming here and spammin' ''KK Is better'' in 3.... 2.... 1.....]
If HTC EVO 3D Has Lollipop, Our Atrix HD's can have Lollipop too :victory: , the only thing we need is hope, and a brave developer.
and please sorry about my bad english~ :silly:
Maybe.
Soon
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Soon
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Did you check pm about my observations/possible lead on the kernel?
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Did you check pm about my observations/possible lead on the kernel?
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our devices upgrade has to do with more than kernels I need to backport some ion commits to the new qcom branches lot of guess work to what is needed and what isn't. Basically have to make a custom qcom folder for jbbl. As for the kernel there are lots of ways to get this right but it will need lots of time and testing.
Hi, I did a search on cm12 but the I didn't find results that address my specific question.
also, can i use an official cm11 for Kindle Fire (2nd gen) on my 5th gen kindle 7?
thank you very much.
oy-ster said:
Hi, I did a search on cm12 but the I didn't find results that address my specific question.
also, can i use an official cm11 for Kindle Fire (2nd gen) on my 5th gen kindle 7?
thank you very much.
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No - roms for this device are listed in the following thread. CM11 is not an option (nor will it ever be).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/orig-development
oy-ster said:
Hi, I did a search on cm12 but the I didn't find results that address my specific question.
also, can i use an official cm11 for Kindle Fire (2nd gen) on my 5th gen kindle 7?
thank you very much.
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You can only use a Rom built for this device on this device.
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You can only use a Rom built for this device on this device.
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No - roms for this device are listed in the following thread. CM11 is not an option (nor will it ever be).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/orig-development
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Thank you, you have fully answered my question about CM11!
About CM12 though... Well, I... I want to use something official. Something that passed their procedures.
I've noticed the unofficial CM12 in that sub forum, so I thought maybe fire HDs official CM12.1 would be compatible.
Do you know what would happen if I'll install that build? Do they use completely different hardware? Would I brick my fire?
Thank you!
oy-ster said:
Thank you, you have fully answered my question about CM11!
About CM12 though... Well, I... I want to use something official. Something that passed their procedures.
I've noticed the unofficial CM12 in that sub forum, so I thought maybe fire HDs official CM12.1 would be compatible.
Do you know what would happen if I'll install that build? Do they use completely different hardware? Would I brick my fire?
Thank you!
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Don't be concerned about the "unofficial" verbiage. Likely a formality. As you are new to the forums (at least this one) know @ggow has a strong reputation for releasing quality roms across a variety of devices. They are straight up variants from credible sources with only minimal customizations required for device compatibility.
Not going to touch the question about flashing a HD rom.
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Don't be concerned about the "unofficial" verbiage. Likely a formality. As you are new to the forums (at least this one) know @ggow has a strong reputation for releasing quality roms across a variety of devices. They are straight up variants from credible sources with only minimal customizations required for device compatibility.
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thank you, indeed I am new to the whole ROM scene. I suppose you're right, it just that well... it's a matter of principle/habbit/ policy/comfort... If there's only one source who he alone controls your most sensitive areas and no one knows what goes on there...
-sigh.
Wasn't there a story a couple years back how much of malware in android actually came from people installing custom roms?...
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Not going to touch the question about flashing a HD rom.
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lol, ok I think I get the drift.
A "risk" (cough) one assumes messing with a rooted device. Reputation matters. Do your homework before acting. If it keeps you up at night stick to stock.
well...
thanks .
Why has google still not uploaded Shamu Android 7.0 Nougat ota zip.:crying: Anyone here who got the ota update on shamu?
Check this thread (And no, it's not out yet)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/factory-images-uploaded-t3446112
I'm waiting too ?
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I'm waiting too ��
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It's so hard to wait. Really getting on my nerves.
Still on DP5, no OTA yet. Im in Kosovo, Europe
Nexus device blues
Having a nexus 6 and now getting the OTA update as soon as release as previously expected.
we will see it in a couple of weeks.
Who needs the stock images when there are already custom roms on the market.
Much better flashable zip. No encryption and custom kernel
mikaole said:
Who needs the stock images when there are already custom roms on the market.
Much better flashable zip. No encryption and custom kernel
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As long as Bootloader and Radio dont change from DP5 to Release. Custom roms are the best route. :laugh:
I am even on preview 1 bootloader and no problem at all. Runs super smooth and root is working. All my apps are fine. So take your time Google
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Who needs the stock images when there are already custom roms on the market.
Much better flashable zip. No encryption and custom kernel
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Out of curiosity I see you list velocity nougat for nexus 6. I searched on XDA but couldn't find anything except for an HTC device. Mind if I ask where you got that rom? I'd like to scope it out, thank you in advance
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Velocity is from the psx def. He is not on xda. Just building for himself and I am a tester since day one 4 years ago. It's only available on a German forum. N is not official, so I can't. But if you Google my name with velocity you will find.
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Velocity is from the psx def. He is not on xda. Just building for himself and I am a tester since day one 4 years ago. It's only available on a German forum. N is not official, so I can't. But if you Google my name with velocity you will find.
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I shall take a gander, thank you.
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As long as Bootloader and Radio dont change from DP5 to Release. Custom roms are the best route. :laugh:
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Not really a wise option. The roms right now are hacked together with bits and parts from other stuff and without an updated kernel many things are causing issues and you dont get all the new under the hood improvments.
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Not really a wise option. The roms right now are hacked together with bits and parts from other stuff and without an updated kernel many things are causing issues and you dont get all the new under the hood improvments.
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We have kernel source for DP5. And as of right now the AOSP r1 source hasn't changed much from DP5 to r1. Or thats what the elite guys have mentioned.
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SynisterWolf said:
We have kernel source for DP5. And as of right now the AOSP r1 source hasn't changed much from DP5 to r1. Or thats what the elite guys have mentioned.
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Yeah I have the source and alot is still missing compared to the DP5. I have spoken with most teams and they are all of the same mind. Until it is fixed they wont build for the n6. Some are even gonna wait until late September or October before even attempting to build it. We are all over Google groups complaining about it. Most think it has to do with Qualcom and the new Vulcan stuff that qualcomm is refusing to support on some chips.
We can only wait and see. I personally am not touching a single rom that is built at the moment. Not a fan of hack together roms.
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Yeah I have the source and alot is still missing compared to the DP5. I have spoken with most teams and they are all of the same mind. Until it is fixed they wont build for the n6. Some are even gonna wait until late September or October before even attempting to build it. We are all over Google groups complaining about it. Most think it has to do with Qualcom and the new Vulcan stuff that qualcomm is refusing to support on some chips.
We can only wait and see. I personally am not touching a single rom that is built at the moment. Not a fan of hack together roms.
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Yolo? ?
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Yolo? ?
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Not with a device I rely on. My device is a tool not a toy lol.
Plus I make my own roms and only use roms made by a very few others. To be honest only 2 teams do I trust their roms to flash to my device. I know all too well the risks involved in flashing roms.
Nexus 5x is live Come On GOOGLE!!!
Velocity was a ROM by Trident in the LG Ally days, woah they bring me back. Back to Android 2.2.2!
Dont have a fire tablet, thinking of buying the 7 inch to play around just to put custom roms from xda
question is, are the current CM/AOSP roms good enough for daily? are there major bugs or glitches
thanks
Yes, CM12 and other Android 5 roms, but latest firmware is not rooteable nor downgradable nor custom rom able
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Dont have a fire tablet, thinking of buying the 7 inch to play around just to put custom roms from xda
question is, are the current CM/AOSP roms good enough for daily? are there major bugs or glitches
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Yes, CM12 and other Android 5 roms, but latest firmware is not rooteable nor downgradable nor custom rom able
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Several custom ROMs for this device are excellent (stable, feature complete) but as @fosco_ noted can only be installed on devices running older builds of FireOS (5.3.2 and below). A new device will likely arrive with 5.3.2.1 or higher which is not rootable or downgradable at present.
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A new device will likely arrive with 5.3.2.1 or higher
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There's a newer version than 5.3.2.1?
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PorygonZRocks said:
There's a newer version than 5.3.2.1?
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Not that I have heard of. Forum reports are usually the first indication of release in the wild.
PorygonZRocks said:
There's a newer version than 5.3.2.1?
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Amazon doesn't announce updates, they just start pushing them to devices
New updates can be pushed at any time irregardless when current update was first available
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ok in that case im going to try to hunt down a second hand one hoping it has lower firmware
can 5.3.2.0 be rooted and rom? just found a device with that version
i was wondering the same also what steps do i take to block updates and is it the same for all versions?
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can 5.3.2.0 be rooted and rom? just found a device with that version
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kozyy said:
i was wondering the same also what steps do i take to block updates and is it the same for all versions?
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5.3.2.0 can be rooted which is one of two primary prerequisites for flashing a custom ROM (the other being SuperSU). Use the SuperTool to block OTA updates immediately after root is obtained.
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Not that I have heard of. Forum reports are usually the first indication of release in the wild.
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OK. I saw you said "5.3.2.1 or higher" and was confused. Thanks for clarifying.
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