hello,
i am sick and tired of CyanogenOS phones, Xiaomi phones and many others. right now in a few footsteps away from passing my mi5 to girlfriend and 'upgrade' to z3 compact.
last time i had sexperia active and it was a solid choice. gave it away to a friend after year of use.
i checked z3 compact specifications, readed threads and phone seems to be able to fit my needs.
i want to know about cyanogenmod support. is there a proper support? i want _all_ available hardware features to be properly functioning. is there something missing?
i don't care about camera 'quality' as long as it is working and able to make photos/videos in 'emergency' situations
It works, but I'd recommend flashing a custom kernel (e.g. for camera DRM, because without the DRM functions the quality is utter bollocks).
Wonder why this phone doesn't have CM13 builds...
Dv2y said:
Wonder why this phone doesn't have CM13 builds...
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Apparently one reason is because they don't have anyone monitoring the Z3C, its all automatically updated from soure code updates
phre5k said:
It works, but I'd recommend flashing a custom kernel (e.g. for camera DRM, because without the DRM functions the quality is utter bollocks).
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Are you saying that the Sony DRM features are working on CM12 or 13? Are you running a custom rom or stock on your phone?
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Love my Z1 so far but..
Wondering about 3 things at the moment,
1. Will Sony ever fix the camera issue for the bootloader?
2. If so, Will there be a great amount of ROM development like for example the Galaxy series.
3. Are we gonna see some nice updates from Sony in the near future? ( Camera fix, 4.3/4.4?)
zippy1990 said:
Love my Z1 so far but..
Wondering about 3 things at the moment,
1. Will Sony ever fix the camera issue for the bootloader?
2. If so, Will there be a great amount of ROM development like for example the Galaxy series.
3. Are we gonna see some nice updates from Sony in the near future? ( Camera fix, 4.3/4.4?)
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Sony will definitely sort the camera issue out with regards to the bootloader.
We have two fantastic devs already, krabappel2548 & DooMLoRD, more will come if they think the Z1 is worth developing for.
Updates will come when and where Sony sees fit to release them but we all hope for 4.4
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I only miss lack of working recovery for 534!
I have unlocked bootloader of my old Z and after some time it brick's (nothing to do with unlocking) fortunately they exchanged it under warranty, but now i prefer not to unlock bootloader and only root (which is must!). Original ROM is very good
I'm really not missing having custom rom's because after rooting I'm using Xposed - have about 25 modules installed and my phone may as well have a custom rom on it because all the features I usually look for are there! With "Auto Hide Soft Keys" installed I've got the full screen size back and I'm really very very happy overall.
Normally I'd have installed a 'slim' or 'AOSP' type rom just for speed reasons, but the damn Snapdragon 800 is so fast it really doesn't matter that Sony preloaded a little bit of bloatware - and its not as pervasive & space consuming as Samsungs bloat.
The only features I'm missing are the kernel level features (Touch-to-wake please DooMLoRD!), but there's only one custom kernel for now and it requires a UB, so I'm waiting on that till they fix the TA partition stuff (though I know you can just restore the TA partition to fix the camera I don't feel the need to yet).
And to answer the questions:
1) Yes
2) Wait and see
3) Yes or they'll be abandoning their flagship phone to word of mouth and stale OS - not going to happen.
Uvaavu said:
3) Yes or they'll be abandoning their flagship phone to word of mouth and stale OS - not going to happen.
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Sony and S/E HAVE done this before, look at the history...
Here is my answers to the 3 questions:
1. Proberbly not, it is a way to keep people from custom roms.
This way Sony can still claim "open bootloader" and "dev friendly", but Sony have done it this way for a reason...
2. Wait and see...
Without sources, the camera will proberbly not ever work on custom roms...
The way this phone is made, sony can in fact release sources as they have to, and leave out the sources for the camera...
3. Look at the Sony and S/E history... Android v4.3 is most certainly all you can expect, as they have to release 4.3 to meet Googles demands...
You will get bugfixes thoug...
I would have written "Sony is NOT stupid!" in the end of all 3 answers, but that looked a little angry...
- the fact is that Sony have NEVER done anything by mistake...!
Hello!
I love the Z3C hardware. This phone is great. The camera drivers, the sound card firmware... it's all so good.
What isn't great is XPERIA ZONE, XPERIA Small Apps, XPERIA Connectivity, and all of the useless garbage bloat that comes on the phone (even the unlocked one!).
All I want is a Google Play Edition of this phone.
If I were to backup the DRM keys, unlock the bootloader, and build AOSP for this phone, would I get a Nexus-like experience? I can build Android in a VM and flash AOSP + GAPPS, but I'm really not a coder.
Another option is Cyanogenmod. What are people's experience with running CM on this phone? Does the camera and audio quality suffer?
U can also use SlimPop for Z3c
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/questions-belong-t2868300
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U can also use SlimPop for Z3c
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Are you referring to SLiM by wakj, or SlimLP by AnGrY sCoTsMaN?
I'm not familiar with SlimPop.
Second one, first one is based on stock Sony Firmware
Hey there.
I'm new to the Xperia scene, before I had various Samsung devices since the S1.
This means I'm pretty spoiled. The first thing I usually did on my S devices was rooting and installing CyanogenmodLineageOS, and it always worked flawlessly.
Now coming to the Xperia devices, what will the problems be that I'll face?
From what I've seen in the guides section, unlocking, rooting and TWRP is possible and already available, but there are some caveats with unlocking (loosing some proprietary features).
Second, what are the chances of getting LOS for this device?
im also new here and this finally looks like my kind of smartphone. Its small, premium and has pretty damn good features including a headphone jack! Currently on a OnePlus 5 and its.... okay? They really cheaped out on lots of things to make the stupid camera better which it still kinda sucks. Especially the glass on the front.... ive got scratches galore and it sits in my left pocket ALONE CONSTANTLY. the fact that it has any scratches is bullsh**.
Enough ranting, I'd love for this thread to get more attention! I just really want to know what this thing will cost. hopefully under 500.... or even less than that. Its a tiny phone cmon price tag.... wondering how this battery will do and what kind of dev support it will be getting! definitely will check up whenever this thing comes out
Where do you see the root is available? There is only a bounty thread to someone find a rooting method. And I think due to Android 8 and it's new features it will be not easy.
So for now accept the Sony stock ROM, Sony makes pretty clean ROMs so it should be a joy for you to use something new
About loosing some functionality (like Sony DRMem photo processing, Track ID license etc.), on previous Xperias you loose these functions only when you're unlocking the bootloader. If there is a rooting method with locked bootloader then you loose nothing (for example on Z3 Compact).
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Where do you see the root is available? There is only a bounty thread to someone find a rooting method. And I think due to Android 8 and it's new features it will be not easy.
So for now accept the Sony stock ROM, Sony makes pretty clean ROMs so it should be a joy for you to use something new
About loosing some functionality (like Sony DRMem photo processing, Track ID license etc.), on previous Xperias you loose these functions only when you're unlocking the bootloader. If there is a rooting method with locked bootloader then you loose nothing (for example on Z3 Compact).
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With Root, I was referring to the "All Things XPERIA" thread, and to unlocking the bootloader.
Should be no problem to achieve root like that, however then there's the DRM-stuff...
The ROM itself is fine, but I tend to rely on some things like Titanium Backup and Tasker.
Guess the Xperia line isn't the best choice for me after all.
Shame cause I already preordered ;D
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With Root, I was referring to the "All Things XPERIA" thread, and to unlocking the bootloader.
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Bare in mind that is a general reference for previous devices and until XPERIA devs get devices with Oreo then it's going to be a waiting game.
Hey there,
I've been watching this forum for a while, but I still can't figure out why this device does not get more attention from ROM developers. AFAIK, there are only like one or two semi-active non-stable ROMs for this device. One of my previous phones was a Sony Z1 Compact, which was released almost 5 years ago, and there still is more activity in the Z1 ROM forum than here. Additionally, this device shipped with Oreo and therefore should support Project Treble, which should (theoretically) make it easier to create Custom ROMS. I'm not here to criticize, just genuinely curious, because I know for a fact that there are quite a few active developers who worked their butt off to make it able to backup the DRM keys on this device (thanks a lot btw!).
The amount of persons buying compact cellphone has reduced drastically over the years.
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On the other hand, I don't feel a need for custom ROMs at all. Manually debloating the stock Sony ROM makes for a satisfactory, bug-free experience.
SirSoviet said:
On the other hand, I don't feel a need for custom ROMs at all. Manually debloating the stock Sony ROM makes for a satisfactory, bug-free experience.
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This.
Of course there are many roms for old devices, but keep in mind this aren't Lollipop days anymore.
To me, starting from 7 Nougat, Android is a complete auto sufficient OS
I agree that now Android has what a standard user needs. However, a custom ROM is still necessary if one wants to get rid of Google Apps and take full control of the system and the phone.
So I hope at least Lineage OS will be developed for our xz1c.
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Here I am still waiting for a CarbonROM for XZ1 Compact.
SonyVLT25ISonyVLT25I said:
Here I am still waiting for a CarbonROM for XZ1 Compact.
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You mean like this one?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz1-compact/development/8-1-x-carbonrom-cr-6-1-t3817402
Sure, it's unofficial and no longer updated,but it's still a build...
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You mean like this one?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz1-compact/development/8-1-x-carbonrom-cr-6-1-t3817402
Sure, it's unofficial and no longer updated,but it's still a build...
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Yeah, I saw this one, but as you have said it is: 1. unofficial. 2. No longer updated. Look like a strong points not to even try it, considering your phone being a daily driver, not just a test subject.
It's too soon for a smartphone that has only one year and some months in the market, and the price still around 300euros.
Wait some time and i'll be sure that some people start to make more noise about this model. Or another option, to start to learn Java or other tech to help the community!!
Check for example the Z5 compact (released on October 2015), has lot of different roms and still is a good deal (i have it running with LineageOS 14.1 till past Xmas)
Never Sony again for me. The Acro S had great support though. The good old days with proper Xposed. If I only could afford the S10. Got a S5 laying around, but I love the fingerprint scanner on this phone, so no going back to the S5.
Hello,
Without any doubt I can say that XZ Premium was my favorite phone, many mods, ports and ROMS. Changed it to OP 7Pro and Im also satisfied with XDA support but it wasnt enough so...
I bought XZ3 Dual 4/64 with A10 and 52.1.A.3.137 firmware. Read all possible topics here and Im totally confused what to do, could you help me out?
I dont really know should I unlock bootloader because I would like to have Sony Camera functions like 4K HDR etc.... but
I cant stand button navigation on stock, I would love to have gestures.
I dont need Sony audio enhancement because I mostly use V4A, what forces me to unlock BL and keep root.
I thought about SailfishOS but I need few android apps like messaging or banking app, cant live without it.
Thought about LineageOS but there are problems with crackling speaker, camera app, gcam not working, and I like sony stock apps but I dont mind using google apps instead, not a fan of lineage apps. Present magisk/hide is apprecatied.
Not a fan of A12- read that camera app is not working with a12, never flashed nor used A12.
No matter what I choose- there are downsides, so what will be the best choice?
Totally sad that XZ3 is not as supported as XZP, I would love to support XZ3 development but Im so underdeveloped that I only use whats given on xda ((
Have a great day!
Hello,
I'm at the same point as you. I'm a previous user of LineageOS on a Galaxy S7. That one had a lot of flaws but was still much, much better than anything that forces gapps on me, even though maybe the S7 version was the worst LineageOS ever. I also used it on S5 and S3. No LineageOS was perfect, but superior over all other ROMs I tried.
The thing that bothers me about the camera is: I can't find information about where the issue is after unlocking. People say it performs worse. But is it a driver thing you can't fix or is it just the Sony camera app? I get no answer here. If it's just the Sony camera app that is decapitated after unlocking, you should just get rid of this peace of crap and replace it with Open Camera. You can then switch to Camera 2 API and disable this awful edge enhancement and actually make good photos. The only downside is that Open Camera doesn't apply proper shutter time for very dark conditions automatically. 4k HDR also seems to work. But remember: I'm still on the original ROM and I don't know if anything will be different after unlocking. I would be thankful if someone could give any information about it.
You should be able to use almost any app on LineageOS. I use FDroid and Aurora as app managers. Some apps check for root or custom ROMs and refuse to work if they find it. I don't use any banking apps on Android. Maybe they do a root check. I can't tell you. You may use the web page of your bank instead. Telegram and Signal both work on LineageOS, I've never tried WhatsApp though.
What's the best option isn't an easy decision for the XZ3. There are always downsides on custom ROMs. The problem is that we can find almost no information on what exactly doesn't work as usual after unlocking, so we can't make our decision. I don't expect to find much help, if I encounter problems after unlocking.
I also spend hours and days trying to get information about all of this and didn't find what I need to know. The crackling speakers problem on LineageOS for example is new to me. Can you give me further information about it or provide a link? Have made any progress since your post here?