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I had another thread about rooting my Bionic and I was getting help. I did have more questions and was hoping that as the process went on, I would get answers. I guess it just kinda died since no one is answering my last questions. If anyone wants to check it out, it's in this section and the only one I have posted.
Anyway, the main question I have, and I figured it would be better to start it's own topic, is about updating to JB on a rooted phone. I have read many threads and lots of people either messed up root or bricked and had to start over. I guess it's not so much a question, more like directions on doing it properly. Like I said, I have read posts with instructions and a bunch of people chime in saying they did everything but still lost root. So there could be something unclear in those instructions and I don't want to take a chance. I will tell you what I have so far and what I have done.
I rooted my phone using this method
http://droidbionicroot.com/droid-bionic-root/how-to-root-ics-on-droid-bionic-and-motorola-android/
The root process I used gave me SuperSU and didn't tell me the version for the SU binaries. I searched around and all I could find was info on SuperUser in regards to backing up root. I uninstalled SuperSU, kinda. I just told it to use a different SU cuz when I used SuperUser and updated the binaries, SuperSU wanted to update them, then I opened SuperUser and the binaries reverted back. I was worried so I just told SuperSU to use a different SU. Was that ok?
SuperSU is no longer there, just disappeared. SuperUser is still on my phone.
Got safestrap tho still not updated to 3.11, got TBU (free), got Voodoo.
I have not made a backup with TBU.
I did do protect root with Voodoo but that was a week or so ago.
I have not made any major changes. BUT, I do have Hide It Pro and the apps I have hidden appear in TBU as frozen. Well at least it is highlighted and the option defrost is there.
So yeah, I want to make sure I update correctly. And I know some of you will either think or actually post that I should search. I assure you that I have. I just want to make sure it's not the instructions and it's just the person's mistake for not following instructions. I did see a post that had a bunch of people saying it didn't work and then 3 pages in a person said "oh you were supposed to do that" which was never made clear.
Don't be afraid....
The worst that can happen is you brick your phone and have to redo EVERYTHING. And chances are that won't happen if you're considering this and have done things in the past.
I only keep one SU app on my phone, but I have heard about being careful if you do have more than one not to confuse the binaries, so maybe if you can uninstall one and just use the one you kept to do everything, I'd say do that, but again I don't know.
I would also be careful about anything frozen especially if it's a system app or bloatware in the system...
See my other thread [Trifecta] Jelly Bean Update...I had all kinds of issues and made it thru, I'm sure you could too.
Cheers.
Ok, but what exactly do I do? I haven't modded anything, just rooted and "froze" apps. I know that after reading that I should take my phone back to where I had it right after root with no changes. Like I said, my phone has no mods and nothing has really changed. So what is the best way to update and keep root? Only reason I want to keep root is because it was easy and I don't want to do it again but more complicated (don't know Linux) If someone wants to type it out, step by step, or link to instructions that you followed exactly and succeeded in updating and keeping root, please do so.
As far as the GSM hack, not sure if I really need that.
Sorry....wasn't leaving you hanging...
You can try an app called OTA RootKeeper by Voodoo, it seems to work most of the time. But from what I understand once you start the update to JB even if it fails you can't go back. So if you update and lose root...
Go HERE
Read thru it, then follow the links to all info, tools & instructions.
Cheers.
Thanks. Hopefully everything goes ok with the update. I really don't want to spend a day learning and updating programs I never used. But if the update fails I guess I have no choice. I will wait till I know I have time, probably this weekend.
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Thanks. Hopefully everything goes ok with the update. I really don't want to spend a day learning and updating programs I never used. But if the update fails I guess I have no choice. I will wait till I know I have time, probably this weekend.
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I was chiming in for what little help I could offer on your other thread, and then I ran into an unexpected glitch myself. You can read all about it here. Basically, if you do an FDR for any reason on the stock ROM in SafeStrap, you are probably going to run into problems. It's happening to a ton of other people.
CycoPuppet said:
I had another thread about rooting my Bionic and I was getting help. I did have more questions and was hoping that as the process went on, I would get answers. I guess it just kinda died since no one is answering my last questions. If anyone wants to check it out, it's in this section and the only one I have posted.
Anyway, the main question I have, and I figured it would be better to start it's own topic, is about updating to JB on a rooted phone. I have read many threads and lots of people either messed up root or bricked and had to start over. I guess it's not so much a question, more like directions on doing it properly. Like I said, I have read posts with instructions and a bunch of people chime in saying they did everything but still lost root. So there could be something unclear in those instructions and I don't want to take a chance. I will tell you what I have so far and what I have done.
I rooted my phone using this method
http://droidbionicroot.com/droid-bionic-root/how-to-root-ics-on-droid-bionic-and-motorola-android/
The root process I used gave me SuperSU and didn't tell me the version for the SU binaries. I searched around and all I could find was info on SuperUser in regards to backing up root. I uninstalled SuperSU, kinda. I just told it to use a different SU cuz when I used SuperUser and updated the binaries, SuperSU wanted to update them, then I opened SuperUser and the binaries reverted back. I was worried so I just told SuperSU to use a different SU. Was that ok?
SuperSU is no longer there, just disappeared. SuperUser is still on my phone.
Got safestrap tho still not updated to 3.11, got TBU (free), got Voodoo.
I have not made a backup with TBU.
I did do protect root with Voodoo but that was a week or so ago.
I have not made any major changes. BUT, I do have Hide It Pro and the apps I have hidden appear in TBU as frozen. Well at least it is highlighted and the option defrost is there.
So yeah, I want to make sure I update correctly. And I know some of you will either think or actually post that I should search. I assure you that I have. I just want to make sure it's not the instructions and it's just the person's mistake for not following instructions. I did see a post that had a bunch of people saying it didn't work and then 3 pages in a person said "oh you were supposed to do that" which was never made clear.
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You were trying to use two different superuser apps (superuser and SuperSu) to control the su binary - each comes with its own binary, so when you used one to update su, then the other is naturally going to complain.
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CycoPuppet said:
So yeah, I want to make sure I update correctly. And I know some of you will either think or actually post that I should search. I assure you that I have. I just want to make sure it's not the instructions and it's just the person's mistake for not following instructions. I did see a post that had a bunch of people saying it didn't work and then 3 pages in a person said "oh you were supposed to do that" which was never made clear.
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I highly suggest that before you try anything, you make a backup of your device with TBU and then copy the TBU file to your PC.
From what i've heard the cleanest way to keep root and get to JB is to backup everything, flash the ICS fxz, root, backup root with Voodoo and then take the ota update. This should put your phone on stock rooted JB. From there you can download TBU and restore your apps and data.
This is a bit excessive but it should in theory fix any issues that could arise from having frozen apps or otherwise changed the system.
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I highly suggest that before you try anything, you make a backup of your device with TBU and then copy the TBU file to your PC.
From what i've heard the cleanest way to keep root and get to JB is to backup everything, flash the ICS fxz, root, backup root with Voodoo and then take the ota update. This should put your phone on stock rooted JB. From there you can download TBU and restore your apps and data.
This is a bit excessive but it should in theory fix any issues that could arise from having frozen apps or otherwise changed the system.
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DO NOT ATTEMPT TO FXZ TO 246 ICS NOW. You've already updated to JB, and you will brick your phone if you attempt to go back.
I rooted my phone a week ago, I kept with the stock Rom for a few days, then installed a Renovate sense 6 Rom which seemed to work well. I had SuperSU installed, plus a few other apps, but then all of a sudden I got an error message when trying to open SuperSU saying the binary was missing, so I downloaded a root checker which said I wasn't fully rooted! After looking on the forums to find a solution I relocked my boot loader and unrooted the phone. Trying to find a stock RUU for my phone ( unlocked Europe version ) was a bloody nightmare. Also getting it to install on my phone was a pain, but probably more to do with my computer having a slow moment.
Is it really worth all the hassle when I can all go wrong in a couple of days ?
Don't think I'll be re routing again any time soon
Sent from my HTC One
Well it's like anything. If you don't know why you need something you probably don't need it
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bloodyniceben said:
I rooted my phone a week ago, I kept with the stock Rom for a few days, then installed a Renovate sense 6 Rom which seemed to work well. I had SuperSU installed, plus a few other apps, but then all of a sudden I got an error message when trying to open SuperSU saying the binary was missing, so I downloaded a root checker which said I wasn't fully rooted! After looking on the forums to find a solution I relocked my boot loader and unrooted the phone. Trying to find a stock RUU for my phone ( unlocked Europe version ) was a bloody nightmare. Also getting it to install on my phone was a pain, but probably more to do with my computer having a slow moment.
Is it really worth all the hassle when I can all go wrong in a couple of days ?
Don't think I'll be re routing again any time soon
Sent from my HTC One
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the phone never come unrooted .. you never had root installed properly
when it's flashed correctly from recovery it will not just go away
http://download.chainfire.eu/396/SuperSU
Flash that from recovery and you'll be rooted
I had SuperSU installed, everything was fine, anything I did with the phone worked. After a week it said the SU binaries were missing, and you couldn't get into SuperSU to do anything, but previously you could. If the phone was never rooted correctly like you say, i would have had this problem from the start.
Also after rooting I used a root checker which said I was rooted, but after this Su binary issue started, it said I wasn't rooted.
Still, I'm back to unrooted now, and the only reason I did it was to get Sense 6, which has since come out as an update, so I'm no worse off
Ben
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I had SuperSU installed, everything was fine, anything I did with the phone worked. After a week it said the SU binaries were missing, and you couldn't get into SuperSU to do anything, but previously you could. If the phone was never rooted correctly like you say, i would have had this problem from the start.
Also after rooting I used a root checker which said I was rooted, but after this Su binary issue started, it said I wasn't rooted.
Still, I'm back to unrooted now, and the only reason I did it was to get Sense 6, which has since come out as an update, so I'm no worse off
Ben
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This is a rom issue not a root issue. Could have also been an issue with the kernel. To be honest if you dont really use the root functions then there maybe no need for you to have it. To be honest most people dont really need root. They just wanna seem cool with some things they can show off on their device instead of using it for anything important or handy. I would advice to judge for yourself. Take the extra options/security risk and weigh it against remaining stock which has less options/secure.
I agree with the previous post, if you don't know what it is, you probably don't need it. As far as SuperSu disappearing, it sounds like either you didn't install it correctly or something changed. The ideal way to install SuperSu is to install via the recovery. And even so, if you reinstall your OS, you will need to reinstall SuperSu. Software does not simply disappear, something had to be done to hasten it's departure. An easy fix to your issue would have been to download the SuperSu zip package from http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu, and install it via your recovery. What I personally don't like about locking a bootloader is that now it says TAMPERED at the top of the screen.
Your issues seem to be with the restoring to stock process which HTC do make a bit convoluted, triggered by the root error not rooting itself.
Now to answer your question: My main reason for rooting is I want to take fine grained backups. Second is lots of clever people have come up with mods and improvements I like to install over the stock Sense ROM.
If you don't need anything that needs root, no need to root. Simple as that.
bloodyniceben said:
I rooted my phone a week ago, I kept with the stock Rom for a few days, then installed a Renovate sense 6 Rom which seemed to work well. I had SuperSU installed, plus a few other apps, but then all of a sudden I got an error message when trying to open SuperSU saying the binary was missing, so I downloaded a root checker which said I wasn't fully rooted! After looking on the forums to find a solution I relocked my boot loader and unrooted the phone. Trying to find a stock RUU for my phone ( unlocked Europe version ) was a bloody nightmare. Also getting it to install on my phone was a pain, but probably more to do with my computer having a slow moment.
Is it really worth all the hassle when I can all go wrong in a couple of days ?
Don't think I'll be re routing again any time soon
Sent from my HTC One
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if you want RUU search @ htc1guru.com with firmware/software version
flash same firmware again + flash custom recovery + flash SuperSu it will resolve your problem
#1-"com.tmobile.pr.adapt (10001) has been granted superuser permissions for an interactive shell" pops up on my screen every 30 seconds on the bottom of my screen in a grey box.
#2- i also noticed that i can accept and recieve calls but i can not hear, nor can the other person hear me. if i use hangouts video call, skype, etc it works fine.
#3-i also tried to get rom manager to make a recovery and it says it needs to get CWD recovery to install a new software, the first thing we need to do is install a up to date version, we will begin that process now... etc.. then it says to get started you must first sset up a custom recovery, it gives two options a samsung galaxy s3 on metro pcs or a samsung previal 2 on boost mobile, or device not listed, when i click that it says "SM-G920T does not have an officially supported CWDR yet. Have you installed a CWD based recovery manually?" so im not sure what to do from there, or if i even need that. i have been a iphone user since day one went to android after reading up a lot on it, although rooting is quite different than jailbreaking it seems, i am incredibly excited to get started if i can get past these little problems and get started and figure everything out. ANY advice, or anwsers to these problems would be Greatly appreciated! thanks!
Also i went to dev options in settings and noticed the "OEM unlocking- allow the bootloader to be unlocker" was turned off, i dont know if this is necessary to root if i did something wrong by not turning it on or what, or if it may fix any problems above if i turn it on now. thanks!
I have a samsung Galaxy S6 (SM_G920T) . i Rooted and did not trip Knox, Although i did just remember that my fingerprint sensor is not working either.
Thank you guys so much this si a incredible forum i have spent hours and hours reading and researching before making this post i appreciate it so much!
#1 Freeze that ****. Use some root tool to freeze that T-mobile apk, seems u gave it root permissions at some point. I believe there are a lot of apps that you will want to do the same.
#2 ? No idea. Stock rom/kernel?
#3 What is this I don't even. Don't do that. Go to TWRP's official web, get your zeroflte (SM-GT920T) twrp and flash it via ODIN, or else get the recovery.img and use flashify. All that assuming you want a custom recovery.
You will need to unlock the bootloader if you are on 5.1.1. I believe locked will prevent changes or wiping anything on the OS partitions, even recovery (can someone confirm?)
I believe jailbraking and rooting should be pretty much similar, if not the same, as both target to grant the user root access to do whatever he pleases on the OS.
Welcome to android btw.
How did you root? Sounds like you used the modified sboot which causes no sounds in calls and nonfunctional fingerprint scanner. If so, flash back to stock and use a different rooting method. The rest, pretty much what the above poster stated
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I rooted using the version that I found the only one that works it seemed like, went to Odin put my phone In download mode and then put the boot loader download in BL and the. Put a something unikernel.sbin I believe, whatever the guide said also then it was done. I thought you couldn't use the twrp or custom recovery etc on tmobile one yet but I just read a thing about xtrestolite odex pure v2 which says it's for 5.1.1 and my model of phone but in the guide it says to root using CF auto root and a link there to it but the link doesn't have my phone on the list that the guide that clearly is my phone says to use I don't know if I'm missing something but I want to use it I understand most of it but I don't know if I need to unropt first and re root then use Odin and flash twrp that's supported on my phone then use that to recover the rom. Etc. The kernel that says is used in the guide is the same one I downloaded so do I need to remove it all then let it do that or?
Sorry if this didn't make sense I'm halfway there between confused and understood I have spent the last 10 hours reading and trying to figure this out though lol. Thanks guys!
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Sorry for adding more but also how do I flash back to stock? Search for the download to the stock image of my phone? Also I could only find one way of rooting everything else said it wasn't working yet or am I missing a big portion of something here?
Just flash the 5.1.1 firmware to return to stock. To root, flash unikernel with Odin. The other method you used was to not trip knox, but as you experienced has side effects. I had to Odin back to 5.1.1 myself. Can't have those issues
thanks!
so how do i flash back to 5.1.1? find the ling to completely stock 5.1.1 and flash through odin in the same spot and same way i flashed the kernel to root? also.. i rooted with " s6_UniKernel_v2-0003-ODIN.tar" is that not the one you were talking about?
CjetOKC said:
so how do i flash back to 5.1.1? find the ling to completely stock 5.1.1 and flash through odin in the same spot and same way i flashed the kernel to root? also.. i rooted with " s6_UniKernel_v2-0003-ODIN.tar" is that not the one you were talking about?
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Yes, flashing to 5.1.1 works exactly like that. You need to get the version for your model (very important on this one) and then simply place that file in the AP field of ODIN while the device is in recovery mode. It is normal for ODIN to freeze for 2 minutes while verifying. Make sure to use a MD5 checker tool on the firmware before flashing.
Rooting has historically required more technical savvy and balls than jailbreaking, but PingPong made rooting the S6 brain-dead simple. CF-Auto root is still pretty painless, but you must make sure you have the right zip for your device.
Anyhoo, the quickest & easiest way to restore phone calls & fingerprint scan is to use Odin to get back to bone stock.
Next, use PingPong to root. After rooting, "com.tmobile.pr.adapt" will ask for root access. That is T-Mobile's "phone home" app and sends info about your device (probably including root status). Deny it root access and make sure you check "Remember my choice", and it won't bother you again. You will not lose any functionality by denying it root, so terminate that crap.
Don't bother with rom manager. CWM is archaic. If you want a custom recovery, use TWRP. You can install TWRP either using Odin or TWRP Manager app (it's free).
Good luck and have fun with your S6
CjetOKC said:
Sorry for adding more but also how do I flash back to stock? Search for the download to the stock image of my phone? Also I could only find one way of rooting everything else said it wasn't working yet or am I missing a big portion of something here?
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Are you still rooted? If so, and if you are experiencing the call audio issue, go flash AOU's kernel. He has made a kernel for the tmo s6. that should eliminate your call audio issue. The finger print scanner is the only issue with flashing his kernel. Also, I rooted with the modded sboot, his TWRP and kernel, and I didn't trip knox
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...recovery-twrp2-8-6-0-g925t-5-1-1-of6-t3143002
Ok, so my old Nexus 6 fell 40' down a pipe chase while I was soldering some 4" copper water mains at work. Needless to say it was destroyed.
Got the replacement phone from insurance, went to plug it in to the computer to unlock and root it, but the computer won't recognize it, even though it had no problem recognizing the old phone. I checked, and device manager says unknown device with the little yellow triangle on it.
Android sdk tools are installed, as are the latest Google drivers.
I followed the instructions in the All-In-One thread for getting the computer to recognize the device, but it doesn't seem to be working.
Should I uninstall the sdk tools and the drivers, and redo them all?
Or does anyone else have any other suggestions?
Thanks.
the Nexus Root Toolkit can help you set up drivers, I'd give that a shot.
i was always told to not use toolkits...
i went ahead and deleted both the sdk and the google drivers, and reinstalled them, and everything is working now. unlocked and got twrp back, making a backup now, then on to root.
any idea if we can get regular root on mmb29v? i don't think i want systemless root... or do i? is there a link that i can read to learn the difference between the two and why one is better than the other?
People on this site recommend not using NRT for *rooting*, but NRT is more than just a rooting tool. It's a fantastically-well-programmed kit which helps with all parts of the process - as you've just discovered yourself (or did you not use NRT?). I've questioned (what I perceive to be) the kneejerk antagonism towards toolkits, but I think that the more experienced members recognise and admit that toolkits have their place once people take the time and trouble to understand what the toolkits are doing so that when they go wrong people don't plague the forums with questions that have been answered dozens of times already.
Yes, you certainly do want systemless root. It makes things like Google Pay (or whatever it's called - I wouldn't touch it myself) work, and it potentially makes OTA upgrades work. There is no benefit that I know of that would make system root better than systemless, though I'm just an uninformed end-user of other people's expertise...
(P.S. As an aside, unrelated to this query, can I ask generally that people don't respond including the entire original message unless the thread is so fantastically busy that the reply would make no sense? I wade through dozens of posts which repeat again and again the post I've just read directly above the reply. It's a waste of space, processing power and my time to have to look for the reply following the 50 lines of repeated comment above it. If you're responding to a specific point, copy and paste that particular point into your reply, not the entire 200 lines... You get me...?)
no, i didn't use nrt. i did the fastboot flash of the oem unlock and recovery.
as for the systemless root helping with ota, i had systemless root on my old nexus 6 and it wouldn't allow me to do ota's. i also don't use google pay.
it also seems easier to flash custom rom's when you have system root as opposed to systemless root, but maybe i am wrong?
Yes, I think that even Chainfire accepts that his systemless root won't work with OTAs unless you use the built-in unroot function before trying the upgrade. I mentioned it only because I was rooted with v2.68 and the N preview installed regardless, which surprised me. I dont think that the same happy event occurs with ordinary security OTAs.
I don't believe installing a custom ROM is affected in any way by the root method, since you lose it anyway.
And I'm sure you've gladdened many hearts tonight with your comment "i didn't use nrt. i did the fastboot flash of the oem unlock and recovery."...
i know for installing purenexus, there is a difference between system root and systemless root. nathanchance gives a description for updating purenexus with systemless root, but not for installing it fresh.
Hi I've been using a custom rom for quite some time now but I decided to go back to stock as I don't really see the benefits.
the issue I'm having is despite flashing a stock rom in Odin and seemingly completely unrooting the device, apps like google pay aren't allowing me to use them as they say the device has been rooted or modified in some way.
in the settings it clearly says my device is official status, does anyone know how to overcome this issue please? I prefer to use google pay to my cards as I often lose them if I take them out
thanks
Drizzy xS said:
Hi I've been using a custom rom for quite some time now but I decided to go back to stock as I don't really see the benefits.
the issue I'm having is despite flashing a stock rom in Odin and seemingly completely unrooting the device, apps like google pay aren't allowing me to use them as they say the device has been rooted or modified in some way.
in the settings it clearly says my device is official status, does anyone know how to overcome this issue please? I prefer to use google pay to my cards as I often lose them if I take them out
thanks
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well it was probably written in every thread when you downloaded twrp and followed the guide to root that this was going to happen. its pretty wide spread knowledge if you'd care to have investigate a bit before jumping ship. been like this for years and years so nothing new or "hidden".
reading goes a long way. even now if you'd have taken a minute to investigate you'd see the futility of what you want to accomplish. ( going to stock and expecting it to be as it once was before knox was tripped)
moreover there are guides on how to hide google pay and installing a version that does not detect root or a modified system.
search is your friend.
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there is one thing that i just though of that you might have forgotten to do and just might work though.
during the rooting/twrp process you had to go to dev options and toggle the OEM unlock.
go there and lock back OEM. this will wipe device so beware.
also when you fully flashed back the 4 md5 files with odin, was data wiped?