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Bluetooth tethering N1 -> Mac OSX

Hello all,
I can't setup working BT tethering under Mac OSX (10.5). Could you help me ? N1 uses the newest cyanogen mod stable rom, and I have "Internet tethering" sets to on. Both devices are paired, but what should I do next on OSX side ? Should I install any 3rd party software such as pdanet ?
Is that tethering different than regular bluetooth connection using embedded phone modem ? I'm asking because in Network configuration in OSX Preferences I have BT interface, where I have to provide phone no., login and password.
Thanks in advance, Tomek.

Well I'm pretty new here, but from what I know there is no bluetooth tethering option. Sure you can pair with others bluetooth devices, but there is no stock internet tethering via bluetooth. Once again, afaik.
The stock Froyo tethering is very simple....it turns your N1 into a wireless base station. If you want to do usb tethering then you can use pdanet. I think pdanet also supports bluetooth tethering, but I've never tried it.

Thanks for your reply.
I wonder why Internet tethering option has description "... via USB/BT" ?
We're talking about CyanogenMod 5.0.8-N1

I'd love to know this as well.
The Cyanogenmod 5.0.8 changelog lists that he added BT tethering, available both via Bluetooth PAN, and Bluetooth DUN, using code from Stefan Tomanek aka wertarbyte. It's something called 'omni-tether.'
But I've yet to get it to work. I tried asking in the CM forum, but got no response.

[Q] Tethering options for data connection?

I'm looking to understand what options exist for tethering the NC to a phone for data. I believe the only method currently supported is by creating an ad-hoc wifi network using software on the phone, and joining this network from the NC.
I have a Blackberry 9700, which cannot be setup as a wifi hotspot. With the release of CM7 build 17, it sounds like Bluetooth works (with limited range). My phone supports Bluetooth tethering because I've set it up with my Windows 7 laptop. I'm curious to find out whether this will be possible with the NC as well.. if not, what other options are there for getting online with my NC (besides having to purchase a phone that has hotspot capability). I used to use PDANet with a Palm Treo back in the day.. I'm also not opposed to physical cable-tethering if this is a possibility.
Thanks in advance.

I would like to know this as well. My Evo is not rooted and I'd like to keep it that way for now, so my only options are PDAnet via physical cable and bluetooth (which I can utilize on CM7 but it breaks wifi) or Easytether (physical).

neoshi said:
I would like to know this as well. My Evo is not rooted and I'd like to keep it that way for now, so my only options are PDAnet via physical cable and bluetooth (which I can utilize on CM7 but it breaks wifi) or Easytether (physical).
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So are you confirming that you've got Bluetooth tethering working with your phone using CM7? Does the build break wifi permanently, or is it only during BT tethering?

Haven't tried it yet but now that you mention it.. I'm going to try it!

Excellent, can't wait to hear the results..

Will pair, won't connect
Well, that takes that option out of the running. I really prefer a physical connection though, and so far, I haven't seen any micro-micro (assuming this is because of power requirements anyway).

Even with the phone right next to the NC? That's disappointing.. by micro-micro, are you referring to the type of USB cable needed? I don't have the device yet, so I'm not sure what kind of connections it has available. Tethering over BT is the last feature I'm waiting for before pulling the trigger on this bad boy. I plan to use it as a removable CarPC (using my phone for data and an external Bluetooth receiver for GPS).

Yup right next to it. Now, I've seen some guys report that GPS works though via bluetooth and I plan on trying that next (need to charge my BT receiver.. hope the battery still works!). They said you needed a GPS app to fix your location though.
As for micro-micro, yep USB. But then we would probably need a client side app to be able to recognize that kind of connection.
And wifi seems broken with BT ENABLED (not on, just enabled).. going to revert.

Thanks for doing all that testing. Let me know how the pairing goes with your GPS receiver.. if you get that working, you would need GPS software that has all of the maps built-in (since Google Maps, etc, requires a data connection).
My primary use for the NC will be as a car PC, so the only thing holding me back is the Bluetooth tethering with my Blackberry (uses the Dial-Up Networking feature set).

I've been hoping to BT DUN working for my BB 9700 also. At the moment it appears that ppp needs to be enabled in the kernel for this to work. When I run pppd from the comand line it complains about ppp missing from the kernel.
It looks like the pppd program is being compiled with the CM7 build and that the ppp modules can be found in the kernel sources so there is hope. We could ask to have it added as a dynamic module but I not sure how to go about making the request. (I am a noob to the forums and not allowed post in Dev and there may be a another way to make requested that is preferred in any case. )
I also found this program that claims to set up a BT DUN connection via ppp and it does run without faulting on my NC:
android.gval.biz

Thanks for sharing your experiences. I found a post in the developers forum where someone asked how to do the same thing. The link in the response discusses how to get Bluetooth GPS and WiFi tethering to work, but it does not mention Bluetooth tethering to a phone. Unfortunately, I don't have enough posts under my name to respond to that thread, but I've subscribed to it in the hopes that someone else will point it out..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12282264&postcount=281

Same same same same.
Unrooted Evo and although I am having fun with all the great things we can do to our NC's I am really not ready to root my Evo just yet. Having that phone with me is the only reason I am able to walk away from my keyboard at all and just because you can doesn't mean you should.
I run Fedora on my laptop and can tether to my Evo using Azilink and USB cable without a problem but if I wanted to drag my lappie everywhere then the NC wouldn't be any fun atall!
Weird is when we can pair the Evo and the NC via Bluetooth (yes a few inches apart right now) but neither one wants to do the actual connection. The message pops up on both Evo and NC asking to acknowledge the "secret" code and what else to do but say yes to them both. Then they both try and fail to connect.
I guess there is a fix for AdHoc on CM7 but I am not sure how to get the unrooted Evo to create an AdHoc network for the NC to connect to. If anyone has that answer can you let us know? I will keep searching as well.
Deirdre

[Q] Cat 5 connection? When no wifi

Probably a dumb question but can we connect the NC to a fixed line (Cat 5) internet connection. Sometimes no wifi but a wire connection is available.
Of course would need some type of USB to Cat 5 connector.
Does such a thing exist?

I don't know if you'll find what you're looking for, but i'm not ruling out the option.
Meantime, if you can access a cat5 line, and you're looking at buying hardware anyway, why not get a wireless access point?
(I am curious to see if you can do what you are asking, and I don't want this thread to die on the 'get an access point' cop out)

CAT5 Ethernet? Sure, wait until B&N redesign the NOOK and do expect another inch thicker, still want it?

I have a motorhome sitting beside my house and cannot get a wifi signal so I ran a cat5 cable out there to a cradelpoint wifi unit so I now have wifi through the coach.
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Assuming a driver is available in the kernel for the Ethernet chipset in question, you *might* be able to use something like the Wii USB-to-Ethernet adapter combined with a USB type converter. I've no idea at all what it will do to the normal network stack, but it's _theoretically_ possible.
Rodney

votinh said:
CAT5 Ethernet? Sure, wait until B&N redesign the NOOK and do expect another inch thicker, still want it?
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Actually not really, XJack.
But seriously though, ethernet on a tablet. Heh.

Defeats the purpose of a tablet. Becomes a slablet

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Defeats the purpose of a tablet. Becomes a slablet
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I just happened to see this. That is great!
FWIW, I've seen some no-name Android tablets that have a dongle which provides USB ports and an RJ45 jack for a wired ethernet connection.. Does kinda defeat the purpose of a tablet though..

scoob8000 said:
I just happened to see this. That is great!
FWIW, I've seen some no-name Android tablets that have a dongle which provides USB ports and an RJ45 jack for a wired ethernet connection.. Does kinda defeat the purpose of a tablet though..
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Not at all, it would be great to be able to use my Nook to configure Routers and program firmware, maybe even to use the Nook for some tethering. I would be able to finally get rid of my battery sucking, heat factory of a UMPC.
If anyone finds a way to get a usb Ethernet adapter working with the Nook please so share.

joenathane said:
Not at all, it would be great to be able to use my Nook to configure Routers and program firmware, maybe even to use the Nook for some tethering. I would be able to finally get rid of my battery sucking, heat factory of a UMPC.
If anyone finds a way to get a usb Ethernet adapter working with the Nook please so share.
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Didn't even think about it that way.
I know they got Ubuntu running on the NC (Not sure how well). Surely there is a wired usb nic that supports Ubuntu. I'm thinking that might be the best way.
I just bought my NC, should be here in a few days. I might just have to play with this..

What about Dalingrin's Nook Tweeks app? Using 'USB Settings > USB Host Mode' can we possibly attach a USB NIC?
I have not played with the USB Host Mode just yet, but I know I got excited when I saw it

Just wanted to link to [webcam support] USB Host support that YOU can try (now in nightlies)...some interesting discussion going on over there too....

Not too sure if I understood correctly your current setup, hopefully I won't recommend you something you have already done/thought about.
For the moment, a quick an easy way would be to plug a wireless router at the end of the network cable and then setup the wireless network. You could then connect to that wireless router with your nook.
Basically, it would look like this (inline text doesn't make a good illustration, but it's better than nothing)...
Router 1 ------(network cable)---------Router 2)))))))(wifi wave)))))))Nook
Sure you will need to setup the router correctly, but it's still very easy to do.

Using The Nexus S 4G As A Dedicated Router

First before people ask...no I can't get a decent ISP in my new apartment complex. They have a "deal" with some horrible small-time cable company that I've never heard of, and all the neighbors hate it. On top of that I have talked my work into paying for the account I plan on using for this since it's "required" so that I can work from home as needed.
That being said, I've done some initial speed tests at my new place and I get a consistent 11Mbps/3Mbps over Sprint's 4G/WiMAX, which is more than enough for my needs. I know that will fluctuate, but even so I'm excited about this project!
So sure I could just dump WiFi Tether on a rooted NS4G and leave it be, but I want to try taking it to the next level. What I'm thinking is a full-time router, much like a pfSense/SmoothWall/Vyatta distro, using the WiMAX (And 3G as a backup) for the WAN and the WiFi for the network connectivity. Unless I can figure out a better solution I would probably use a WRT54GL with dd-wrt to act as the wireless bridge for my wired clients.
It'll always be plugged into power, so battery isn't an issue (But a nice bonus for when the power does go out). I would like to have an always running bandwidth monitoring screen that I can just glance at. Of course there would be remote monitoring/configuration, as well as some built-in "apps".
I know this is a big task to take on, but I need something to focus on in regards to getting into the development side of things and I think this would be a great place to start. However I've got some questions that I think ya'll could help me figure out:
1 - What should I do for providing services like DHCP, DNS, Port Forwarding, NAT, etc? I know it would require some heavy lifting but I could cross-compile standard linux based apps like dhcpd right?
Or does anyone know of that perfect app that might help me get a head start? I don't mind using different apps/services and then focusing on making them all work together, but if there is a "simple" solution already that would be fine by me!
2 - Since it's not going to be a multimedia demon, is there a particular light-weight, almost console-only ROM that might serve to be the best base to build from? I would think something that is more geared towards running desktop-based applications versus the standard apps.
3 - WiMAX needs to work of course, how would that play into it?
4 - Is that anything that might allow me to plugin a standard ethernet cable? I don't think I've seen a mini-usb to ethernet yet...do they have a mini-usb to regular usb at least?
I know these are very basic questions, but I just want to get a pulse on if this is just an unobtainable idea or not. I don't think it is, it's basically a different way of getting to a MiFi. Also if anyone knows of anyone elses past attempts at this I would love to know where I can read up on it in. Thanx in advance!!!

My phone overheats if it tethers for hours upon hours. Gets kind of annoying. I suggest you buy a external charger and another battery so you don't have to play " let the battery cool down" game.
I had the same issue on my other 2 smartphones while tethering (Samsung instinct with ported 1.6. And optimus s)
I would say try finding a loophole or move. Slow internet is a whore. I use hot sport off my phone to my ps3. And I can only play from 11pm-6am lag-free.
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Are you oc'ed or something I tether my phone for hours a day and havent had it over heat except for when I was oc'ed above 1.2ghz.

There are a few issues with this.
1.Restrictive firewalling policies on the ISP side. Blocked ports/ throttling.
2.Added latency from wireless > wireless bridge. With wireless you will need to tether to a wireless bridge with ethernet ports for your computers. wrt54g and the like with dd-wrt work fine for this. A linux computer with a wireless card would also work. Tethering with USB to a linux computer that you can edit the iptables rules would be best.
3.Double NAT. This is something you must avoid to have a proper connection. With wireless your tethering program is going to use NAT, but then your bridge will probably also use NAT. This will leave you with a very convoluted connection. Tethering with USB would probably also be best here. In the past when I have used USB tethering (motor razr) the host PC gets assigned the true WAN address of the phone via a virtual adapter. Thus this would only require setting up NAT/ iptables once on the host PC.
My suggestion would be to exchange the phone/plan for a 3g/4g data card that works with GNU/Linux and setup NAT that way of course along with an ethernet switch. Good luck with it.

Jason_25 said:
There are a few issues with this.
1.Restrictive firewalling policies on the ISP side. Blocked ports/ throttling.
2.Added latency from wireless > wireless bridge. With wireless you will need to tether to a wireless bridge with ethernet ports for your computers. wrt54g and the like with dd-wrt work fine for this. A linux computer with a wireless card would also work. Tethering with USB to a linux computer that you can edit the iptables rules would be best.
3.Double NAT. This is something you must avoid to have a proper connection. With wireless your tethering program is going to use NAT, but then your bridge will probably also use NAT. This will leave you with a very convoluted connection. Tethering with USB would probably also be best here. In the past when I have used USB tethering (motor razr) the host PC gets assigned the true WAN address of the phone via a virtual adapter. Thus this would only require setting up NAT/ iptables once on the host PC.
My suggestion would be to exchange the phone/plan for a 3g/4g data card that works with GNU/Linux and setup NAT that way of course along with an ethernet switch. Good luck with it.
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But he would then be giving up unlimited data as a result of leaving the phone plans.
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[Q] Reverse Tethering?

Hello hello, So i just bought a SGS3 mini, and as i now can.. well watch vids on youtube, my data cap has been reached very fast.
I do not own a wireless router, but i do have a good wired connection, and have been trying to reverse tether the phone for a few days without luck, Its rooted and with maclaws latest 4.3.1 ROM.
I have been considering if i should buy a Wifi dongle, and use that to reverse tether, anyone know how that would work?, and what to look for on it, surely ad-hoc, but is there anything else, anyone tried this and had it work?
Apps ive tried with USB cable, and setting usb debugging on; Reverse Tethering, USB reverse Tethering, ReverseTethering 3.02 from thambaru(Windows only, it did not detect the phone..)
I do have the samsung drivers installed from maclaws site, so that should not be an issue
Please help :|

-.-, so no one has a clue how to get this working lol

I wonder, would a wifi dongle work?, done alot of googling but not sure if it works right with android phones -.-
Before anyone says router or Access point, too strained on cash for that.