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IS the i9100 Galaxy S2 camera better than the Xperia ZR?

ZR is my dream phone well the Z is but due to so many hardware issuses and bad design I want to go with the ZR
But can the camera match my previous i9100 S2?
My S2 was incredible at taking photos especially at night. No noise at all.

The Samsung used SONY camera module till S3 Galaxy. The ZR takes incredible pictures once you do the settings right and for critical pictures use HDR Cam+ or other utilities like I do.

ZR gets better photo than GNexus. The camera sound effects can't mute by sound settings, I can't take photo of my sleeping kid with this. It's good camera among phones.
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I keep reading on review websites that the Z and ZR camera is horrible its really really bad
But some people are saying thats cause those guys are morons and don't enable HDR
can anyone confirm how the Z and ZR camera matches other phone cameras?

http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=5421&idPhone2=5204&idPhone3=3621

chewdaniel said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=5421&idPhone2=5204&idPhone3=3621
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wow thanks holy crap
the S2 i9100 is significantly better sharper and less noise than the Z and ZR
the Z does look better than the ZR
how the heck a old phone like the i9100 S2 can have such a better camera? how is that even possible?

it's sony's post-processing and crap compression that screws up a great camera... it's the software :/

so can this be fixed using HDR?
what about rooting and flashing custom rom etc?

john5220 said:
so can this be fixed using HDR?
what about rooting and flashing custom rom etc?
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i believe it'll be fixed by next software updates.. as most of the reviews about the Xperia ZR camera was made on the 4.1 ROM ,and we have some positive feedbacks about camera quality and focus-speed enhancement in the new 4.2.2 update
so we need someone who is using the 4.2.2 ROM to confirm it..

DoO37 said:
i believe it'll be fixed by next software updates.. as most of the reviews about the Xperia ZR camera was made on the 4.1 ROM ,and we have some positive feedbacks about camera quality and focus-speed enhancement in the new 4.2.2 update
so we need someone who is using the 4.2.2 ROM to confirm it..
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4.2.2 user here.I can tell that the camera is way better,and for the lowlight shoting please turn off the SAM - superior auto mod. and try playing with the settings abit like stopping HDR / chosing Fill flash / focus - multi auto focus.It really gives a very good low light pictures.So basicly the camera is great for me here

effective said:
4.2.2 user here.I can tell that the camera is way better,and for the lowlight shoting please turn off the SAM - superior auto mod. and try playing with the settings abit like stopping HDR / chosing Fill flash / focus - multi auto focus.It really gives a very good low light pictures.So basicly the camera is great for me here
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Thanks @effective for confirming :good:
and guys don't listen to just one review specially the one from Phonearena.. it's the worst review ever for the ZR and you may see the positive comments there for the users..
you can just only check the photos quality from Here ,but don't read the the whole page you'll hate the phone
the photo's aren't that perfect.. but they're still great for me (note that these photos were taken on the 4.1.2 FW)

DoO37 said:
Thanks @effective for confirming :good:
and guys don't listen to just one review specially the one from Phonearena.. it's the worst review ever for the ZR and you may see the positive comments there for the users..
you can just only check the photos quality from Here ,but don't read the the whole page you'll hate the phone
the photo's aren't that perfect.. but they're still great for me (note that these photos were taken on the 4.1.2 FW)
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No probs man here u go a link from here that some ppl incl me made some pics with the phonie - 4.1.2 firmware tho.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2389624

xperia sp users attention !

dear xperia sp users my xperia p broke yesterday i am thinking of bying xperia sp but heard of problems in wi-fi and camera ! could you please report if worths the value or has these problems !
thanksss !! ))

Theliakos said:
dear xperia sp users my xperia p broke yesterday i am thinking of bying xperia sp but heard of problems in wi-fi and camera ! could you please report if worths the value or has these problems !
thanksss !! ))
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Yes it has these bugs
Poor wifi reception and camera jst ok ok
But we all are hoping that it gets rectified in 4.3 update.fingers crossed

dipesh1502 said:
Yes it has these bugs
Poor wifi reception and camera jst ok ok
But we all are hoping that it gets rectified in 4.3 update.fingers crossed
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well.... i thought i could buy it but i am very intrested in camera and wifi !!

Theliakos said:
well.... i thought i could buy it but i am very intrested in camera and wifi !!
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But i will say its a very nice phone.
You can read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2561829

dipesh1502 said:
But i will say its a very nice phone.
You can read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2561829
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well i wonder if the camera is the same quality as my lovely xperia p(dead!) and wifi is the most important thing !

Theliakos said:
well i wonder if the camera is the same quality as my lovely xperia p(dead!) and wifi is the most important thing !
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I dont know abt xperia p
But i cn say that the stock cam in xsp is nt that satisfactory bt i do get better results through other apps like pro capture and camera360..and wifi its disgusting

Theliakos said:
dear xperia sp users my xperia p broke yesterday i am thinking of bying xperia sp but heard of problems in wi-fi and camera ! could you please report if worths the value or has these problems !
thanksss !! ))
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i have an absloutly amazing camera and the wifi is absloutly flawless i think it differs from where do you live but for me the phone is absloutly flawless except for development and roms and stuff like that

dipesh1502 said:
I dont know abt xperia p
But i cn say that the stock cam in xsp is nt that satisfactory bt i do get better results through other apps like pro capture and camera360..and wifi its disgusting
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guys !!! these are the most important heree !! why are things like that???

davinci20 said:
i have an absloutly amazing camera and the wifi is absloutly flawless i think it differs from where do you live but for me the phone is absloutly flawless except for development and roms and stuff like that
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you sure ??

Wifi & Camera
davinci20 said:
i have an absloutly amazing camera and the wifi is absloutly flawless i think it differs from where do you live but for me the phone is absloutly flawless except for development and roms and stuff like that
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Camera quality is not great, My old Xperia S had a better Camera.
as for Wifi range thats also iffy, poor.
in my opinion, none of these are major issues though.
the Performance is probably the best in the mid-range smartphones.
We'll have to wait and see what 4.3 brings.
regards

raziel123 said:
Camera quality is not great, My old Xperia S had a better Camera.
as for Wifi range thats also iffy, poor.
in my opinion, none of these are major issues though.
the Performance is probably the best in the mid-range smartphones.
We'll have to wait and see what 4.3 brings.
regards
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Yup exactly

Also with you guys...
dipesh1502 said:
Yup exactly
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Yap, i am with you guys, Patience is a virtue..!! hahaha

shojeep said:
Yap, i am with you guys, Patience is a virtue..!! hahaha
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i would like to buy it but i am not very sure if these bugs will vanish and i dont to buy a useless phone !

If you believe in sony you must buy it (make.believe)

dipesh1502 said:
If you believe in sony you must buy it (make.believe)
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well sony disappointed me a lot of times in updates !! but i still believe in her !! hope i dont regret buying it !
so you guys believe that i should buy it ????

Theliakos said:
well sony disappointed me a lot of times in updates !! but i still believe in her !! hope i dont regret buying it !
so you guys believe that i should buy it ????
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Yes from me

Hi guys i saw this thread and i also want to buy xperia sp and i would like to hear more opinions about this:
First i really don't care that much about camera, it's 8 MP, it's good enought for me.
About WiFi problems, yeah with my arc s it's same story so let's say i am used to it xD. Hopefully it can be fixed with software updates.
Screen: 1080p is not necessary, 720p is just ok. It's TFT with not that geat viewing angles but it's fine.
What i care about are performance, adreno 320 is great, CPU 1,7GHz but it's dual core most of today's phones have quad core CPU.
When i bought my current phone arc s it was top Sony (ericsson) phone but with single core CPU and next year dual core CPU was standard. So i don't want this happen to me again, i don't want to buy this phone if i have to change it next year because it's not quad core. I know if i want quad core i should probably buy more expensive phone, this phone is great for its price. What do you think about this?

User013 said:
Hi guys i saw this thread and i also want to buy xperia sp and i would like to hear more opinions about this:
First i really don't care that much about camera, it's 8 MP, it's good enought for me.
About WiFi problems, yeah with my arc s it's same story so let's say i am used to it xD. Hopefully it can be fixed with software updates.
Screen: 1080p is not necessary, 720p is just ok. It's TFT with not that geat viewing angles but it's fine.
What i care about are performance, adreno 320 is great, CPU 1,7GHz but it's dual core most of today's phones have quad core CPU.
When i bought my current phone arc s it was top Sony (ericsson) phone but with single core CPU and next year dual core CPU was standard. So i don't want this happen to me again, i don't want to buy this phone if i have to change it next year because it's not quad core. I know if i want quad core i should probably buy more expensive phone, this phone is great for its price. What do you think about this?
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man i beleive that you should buy it and am buying it too ! but this wifi problem its very frustrating

@Theliakos
How much does it cost in Greece, here in Serbia it's 245 euros

User013 said:
@Theliakos
How much does it cost in Greece, here in Serbia it's 245 euros
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hey here in greece costs 240 euros !

[Q] Xperia Z1 Camera Problem (help)

Hi everyone im new on this forum and wanted to say a problem with my Xperia. I dont know if i dont know how to take photos or firmware & software is bad or just Xperias camera is really bad. Especially at nights, at very high and very low lights my phone takes really bad photos. I was suspecting of if its replica or fake i checked its not. Even an iPhone 5 (a friend of mine) has over perfomanced Xperia Z1 and they joked around me, i was suprised.. I will attach some samples of my phone and the samples i found on the internet you compare and tell me what it can be,i see too much blur or noise on my photos. Am i a bad (must be really bad) photographer ? My firmware & software is bad ? My camera is broken in some way ?
Thank you for your help already.
Edit: The web site uploader compressed my example photos. So answer with possibilities and your knowledge please.

your lens is dirty

xhanty said:
Hi everyone im new on this forum and wanted to say a problem with my Xperia. I dont know if i dont know how to take photos or firmware & software is bad or just Xperias camera is really bad. Especially at nights, at very high and very low lights my phone takes really bad photos. I was suspecting of if its replica or fake i checked its not. Even an iPhone 5 (a friend of mine) has over perfomanced Xperia Z1 and they joked around me, i was suprised.. I will attach some samples of my phone and the samples i found on the internet you compare and tell me what it can be,i see too much blur or noise on my photos. Am i a bad (must be really bad) photographer ? My firmware & software is bad ? My camera is broken in some way ?
Thank you for your help already.
Edit: The web site uploader compressed my example photos. So answer with possibilities and your knowledge please.
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Update to 4.4 camera drasticaly improves
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[Q] Xperia SP Camera , Help Plz :)

I Already bought Xperia SP Last Day
It Was Running On Official Stock 4.3 FW .205
My Only Issue Till Now Is The Camera >> It's So Slow When Taking Pictures & Smooth When Using Video
Anyone Else Have This Problem ???
Now I'm Using Existenz Ultra Rom >> Still The Same
So ,, Is That Sony Related Software Bug Or Hardware Bug With The Phone ?!!

Set your phone to superior auto (if it's there in existenz rom as i haven't used)
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Have you fix this problem?
There is some time that I was thinking about my camera has a poor qualiy. It was amazing in the past and it isn`t any more. But I thought that is all on my mind. Last weekend I compaired with a Friend`s XPERIA SP phone and I got surprised. My camera is realy poor, there is some problem. But I don`t know if it is HW or SW.
Have you find some answer?
Thanks

Rafael_Facanha said:
Have you fix this problem?
There is some time that I was thinking about my camera has a poor qualiy. It was amazing in the past and it isn`t any more. But I thought that is all on my mind. Last weekend I compaired with a Friend`s XPERIA SP phone and I got surprised. My camera is realy poor, there is some problem. But I don`t know if it is HW or SW.
Have you find some answer?
Thanks
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The best camera apps that have better quality images are;
1)VSCO
2)Google's Camera (Yeah it is surprisingly good)
I don't prefer the HD Camera you find the in play store.
I usually clean my lenses by putting a small amount toothpaste to the lens and wiping it. After that, I clear the lens with a wet tissue. You could use some soap too but I prefer using toothpaste because it made my lenses to be much cleaner

Yep. I had the same issue. After doing some research I found some camera apps which perform better on our device. Check out the thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2937252
If you have any further questions or queries please post them on my thread instead of here so that I can respond promptly. I rarely visit Q&A section.

Amr Nasser said:
I Already bought Xperia SP Last Day
It Was Running On Official Stock 4.3 FW .205
My Only Issue Till Now Is The Camera >> It's So Slow When Taking Pictures & Smooth When Using Video
Anyone Else Have This Problem ???
Now I'm Using Existenz Ultra Rom >> Still The Same
So ,, Is That Sony Related Software Bug Or Hardware Bug With The Phone ?!!
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I suggest you to set ISO at 400 or 800.

[Q] Sony V - upgrade from 4.3 to 4.4 or wait ?

hi , i have android 4.3 on my Sony V and the only problem is the drain battery fast and i think it`s a problem that never solved by rom
anyway , i see on many site that different versions of 4.4 kitkat comes for Sony V and it`s a good news that i can have last the android version on my phone
but if you upgrade to this do you see any specific option or optimization on this rom ? i mean is there any real benefits to take a time and risk for upgrade ?
something like optimize core or less space or more free ram ??
and there are different versions of 4.4 Rom for Sony V , like AOKP or cyanogenmod and ...
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=tsubasa
which one is better and have less bugs ?
is this a right time for update or it`s soon and i must wait for fixing android 4.4 bugs ?

Arioman said:
hi , i have android 4.3 on my Sony V and the only problem is the drain battery fast and i think it`s a problem that never solved by rom
anyway , i see on many site that different versions of 4.4 kitkat comes for Sony V and it`s a good news that i can have last the android version on my phone
but if you upgrade to this do you see any specific option or optimization on this rom ? i mean is there any real benefits to take a time and risk for upgrade ?
something like optimize core or less space or more free ram ??
and there are different versions of 4.4 Rom for Sony V , like AOKP or cyanogenmod and ...
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=tsubasa
which one is better and have less bugs ?
is this a right time for update or it`s soon and i must wait for fixing android 4.4 bugs ?
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Well...any custom kk rom will perform like 5 times faster than any stock version of rom for our device, but the battery life and camera quality will be worse. You won't have multitasking problems and apps closing in background like on stock roms but you might get reboots or some other problems with most of the roms. I decided to go back to stock 4.1.2 because the battery on our phone sucks so I'd rather get an hour of screen on time more than better performance. So it's up to you to try out and decide what you prefer.
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well thanks for share your experience my friend
i think i choose speed and performance of android Vs battery and Camera
cause now with a clash of clans and some app like line , whatsup , viber my phone is really slow
but still there is one Question : which Kitkat for Sony V have better performance and less bugs ? anyone test them ?

Arioman said:
well thanks for share your experience my friend
i think i choose speed and performance of android Vs battery and Camera
cause now with a clash of clans and some app like line , whatsup , viber my phone is really slow
but still there is one Question : which Kitkat for Sony V have better performance and less bugs ? anyone test them ?
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Most of them are pretty much the same, some just offer more features than others basically. Unofficial LiquidSmooth Rom worked best for me and was most stable but most people prefer Carbon or NeoWave. You just have to read through the topics to see what other people are saying or try them out yourself. I just wish I had done a backup before unlocking bootloader and flashing the first custom rom because now I don't have those DRM keys and my camera quality sucks even though I'm on stock 4.1.2 now. I know that Xperia Z's camera gets f***d up after unlocking bootloader but it seems it affected my Xperia V too. :S

finac94 said:
Most of them are pretty much the same, some just offer more features than others basically. Unofficial LiquidSmooth Rom worked best for me and was most stable but most people prefer Carbon or NeoWave. You just have to read through the topics to see what other people are saying or try them out yourself. I just wish I had done a backup before unlocking bootloader and flashing the first custom rom because now I don't have those DRM keys and my camera quality sucks even though I'm on stock 4.1.2 now. I know that Xperia Z's camera gets f***d up after unlocking bootloader but it seems it affected my Xperia V too. :S
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thanks , but it sounds weird !!
is unlocking bootloader affect on quality of camera ??! why these two different options must related together ?
even with third party camera recording apps ?

Arioman said:
thanks , but it sounds weird !!
is unlocking bootloader affect on quality of camera ??! why these two different options must related together ?
even with third party camera recording apps ?
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It might be just my imagination xD Maybe the camera is normal but seems bad to me at the moment, I haven't really tried it outdoors yet. I attached some pics here and you tell me if it's normal (like on your phone) or bad.
Btw...does your camera keep focusing even when you're not holding the capture button? Because mine does and I don't remember if it did before

I couldn't attach 4 pictures in one post so I divided it in two

Well your pics seems nice to me if take by Sony V
anyway now you mentioned i remember that one time i take a photo with my Huawei G650 dad phone and the quality of this pics is very better than my Sony V 12 Mega Pixel
after that i leave my phone camera and use small Digital camera at all .
i have always different phone of Sony , and the quality of Camera never satisfied me , they just give them more Mega pixel or resolution but the quality of picture never be like a real camera
only thing i love is FUll HD video recording that have a nice quality

Arioman said:
Well your pics seems nice to me if take by Sony V
anyway now you mentioned i remember that one time i take a photo with my Huawei G650 dad phone and the quality of this pics is very better than my Sony V 12 Mega Pixel
after that i leave my phone camera and use small Digital camera at all .
i have always different phone of Sony , and the quality of Camera never satisfied me , they just give them more Mega pixel or resolution but the quality of picture never be like a real camera
only thing i love is FUll HD video recording that have a nice quality
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And what about that auto focusing all the time? Does it happen on your device too (when you're not holding the shutter button)?
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finac94 said:
And what about that auto focusing all the time? Does it happen on your device too (when you're not holding the shutter button)?
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well i have a bad feeling about auto focusing too , yes it happened sometimes and also focus on wrong object or area , at end i decide to use camera of phone only when i don't have my digital camera with myself and i don't use it for a long time