Nougat - Moto Z Force Guides, News, & Discussion

Nougat coming in the next few months...?
http://www.droid-life.com/2016/09/27/moto-z-moto-g4-nougat-update-release-date-q4/

Sounds good to me! I'm on DL every day, but man there are some haters in the comments lol. It's like Motorola/Lenovo killed their firstborn or something.

blynkofaneye said:
Sounds good to me! I'm on DL every day, but man there are some haters in the comments lol. It's like Motorola/Lenovo killed their firstborn or something.
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I've always been of the mind that people are more likely to post to complain than otherwise. You rarely see, "hey, this is great!" .. I think it is often assumed that posting those kinds of comments add nothing to the discussion, so people don't do it...
Respond if you agree

TheKaz said:
I've always been of the mind that people are more likely to post to complain than otherwise. You rarely see, "hey, this is great!" .. I think it is often assumed that posting those kinds of comments add nothing to the discussion, so people don't do it...
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Agreed. I see what you did there.

If it turns out to be true and even if they they just push it to those who oped in for soak test and whatnot and not a full out release in the next few weeks i am happy with Lenovo and this phone. I love what Lenovo did with the phone. I said updates will make or break it and i was scared about that when they said they could not commit to the security patches. But were getting those patches and have a word on the update so far so good. Hope they keep it up. This is the best phone out all around.

I'll still believe it when I see it. Moto has really been sucking badly on updates the last few years.
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JasonJoel said:
I'll still believe it when I see it. Moto has really been sucking badly on updates the last few years.
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But the last few months they've been excelling!
All I know, as a Samsung fanboy in the past... I couldn't be happier that I chose to change to the Z Force... besides not bursting into flames in my pocket... the battery life puts EVERY Samsung I ever had to shame.

beejmeister said:
But the last few months they've been excelling!
All I know, as a Samsung fanboy in the past... I couldn't be happier that I chose to change to the Z Force... besides not bursting into flames in my pocket... the battery life puts EVERY Samsung I ever had to shame.
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I agree 100% the funny part is I decided I needed a non samsung device as soon as I saw that lil wayne commercial that had him dumping champagne on the phone. I told coworkers that wanted the Note 7 prior to the release to get this phone instead because Samsung spent far too much for lil wayne for proper research and development, they all made fun of me...until the note started exploding.

LeeMullinsII said:
I agree 100% the funny part is I decided I needed a non samsung device as soon as I saw that lil wayne commercial that had him dumping champagne on the phone. I told coworkers that wanted the Note 7 prior to the release to get this phone instead because Samsung spent far too much for lil wayne for proper research and development, they all made fun of me...until the note started exploding.
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Off topic but the issue is simple with the Note 7. I checked this my self. But its not cheap for them and the "Fixed" ones were not fixed and there was no way for them to fix it.
Simple version. The IC samsung chosen to handle the monitoring of the voltage for the battery was the cheapest they could find. That being said they can be way off in terms of calibration. The note 7 i had charged my battery to 4.9v. Phone would read 4.405v but a fluke on the batt reads 4.921v. And that is dangerous. So for all i know they could be charging to 5+ volts and no wounder they are bursting into flames. Issue has nothing to do with the battery and changing it wont do a thing. Its an issue with the ic on the board. And the IC has been used in other things that handle li-ion and li-po related charging and also caused problems on them.
Back on topic.
So we get 7.0 before the end of the year. Im guessing November. So far so good on the updates. But im wondering if they are going 7.0 or just going to jump to 7.1. Chances are no 7.1 that fast but so far the updates have been good. And the moto mod updates have been amazing. I would like to see 7.0 by Nov. 17th. But we prob wont see the roll out start until the end of Nov.

Does anyone know if Nougat will return the ability to save to SD or move apps to external sd?
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dtowngs4g said:
Does anyone know if Nougat will return the ability to save to SD or move apps to external sd?
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It will not. Motorola has removed the Apps 2 SD feature. It was replaced by Adoptable Storage.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/109134/p/1449,9582
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Just finished installing the Nougat update on my phone. After updating I tested it out in a Daydream VR and it works!

I wish someone would post the update files

Uuuurgh I wish there was a way to force it. I've been obsessively checking for software updates all day :|

bagheadinc said:
Just finished installing the Nougat update on my phone. After updating I tested it out in a Daydream VR and it works!
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Yes yes yes yes yes. Got rid of my Gear VR and S7 Edge for a PSVR and have been waiting for a good headset for my Z Droid. So it works with the remote and what not?

mcp2009 said:
So it works with the remote and what not?
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Yup, works exactly like it does on the Pixel. It runs the Daydream app, supports the VR keyboard, etc.

bagheadinc said:
Yup, works exactly like it does on the Pixel. It runs the Daydream app, supports the VR keyboard, etc.
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Did you sign up for soak test?

TigerCourage said:
Did you sign up for soak test?
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Not that I'm aware of. I've done plenty of soak tests for previous Moto devices and I got invites for soak tests for the camera and projector (which I don't have either), but I never got one for the phone. The update just popped up for me last night.
So far the only Nougat issues I'm having is the fact that my Ambient Moto Display no longer works. Slightly annoying, but it could be worse.

bagheadinc said:
Not that I'm aware of. I've done plenty of soak tests for previous Moto devices and I got invites for soak tests for the camera and projector (which I don't have either), but I never got one for the phone. The update just popped up for me last night.
So far the only Nougat issues I'm having is the fact that my Ambient Display no longer works. Slightly annoying, but it could be worse.
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Great that means it's a general release!
Do a hard reset, it's always recommended to do a hard reset after a major update for optimal performance and user experience.

Strike my last statement. I just got it working. I need up just clearing the data for the Moto app and set it up again. Moto Display seems to work perfectly fine now.

Related

O2x Embarrassingly slow

Had to sort out my Brothers HTC Desire last night, reinstalling everything after a repair.
It was embarrassing seeing how fast installations were.
Apps downloaded, installed and the phone was instantly ready to go.
My O2x on the other hand grinds to a halt when installing anything. I updated 4 apps last night and my phone was pretty much unusable during the downloads and installation.
After the apps were installed it still sat there for a good 30secs at 99-100% CPU usage.
The phone was stuttering and unusable until the Processor settled down.
I remember when I got this phone I was telling my brother about the Dual core processor etc. This may sound good but it's useless if it falls over when doing the most simple of tasks and gets outperformed by something running half the power
yes, a very annoying bug, welknown by everyone - except LG
very embarrising for LG
Yep, a pretty good cockup by LG. Custom ROMs don't have this 'feature' though.
is there any way to sort this without resorting to a custom ROM?
No, you'd need to wait for LG to sort it.
Rusty! said:
No, you'd need to wait for LG to sort it.
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hmmm that means waiting for LG to acknowledge there is a problem
Looks like there could be a long wait ahead. lol
The fix will be out before end of March next year, maby. As soon as we (LG) sorted the reboot and BSOD issue we (LG) will start working on your problem.
So in two weeks a year from now we promise you there will be a solution, if not sometime in spring 2013 for sure.
Althou we (LG) can't promise anything.
If you buy your telephone after summer 2013 you will be able to upgrade it to Gingerbread straight out of the box. Congrats!
Wwax said:
The fix will be out before end of March next year, maby. As soon as we (LG) sorted the reboot and BSOD issue we (LG) will start working on your problem.
So in two weeks a year from now we promise you there will be a solution, if not sometime in spring 2013 for sure.
Althou we (LG) can't promise anything.
If you buy your telephone after summer 2013 you will be able to upgrade it to Gingerbread straight out of the box. Congrats!
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Lol, i actually thought you were from LG
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svceon said:
Lol, i actually thought you were from LG
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mee too lol
Rusty! said:
No, you'd need to wait for LG to sort it.
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That's not quite right.
waynefox said:
is there any way to sort this without resorting to a custom ROM?
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There is a patch that Paul has made a week after the phones release.
r2-stock-performance-pack
And here is the explanation why this happens.
Explanation
Note the date of the post and mind that the phone was released In Europe In the last May weeks / begin of April.
If only every Android phone manufacturer gave their phones to Paul before release.
mike-o2 said:
That's not quite right.
There is a patch that Paul has made a week after the phones release.
r2-stock-performance-pack
And here is the explanation why this happens.
Explanation
Note the date of the post and mind that the phone was released In Europe In the last May weeks / begin of April.
If only every Android phone manufacturer gave their phones to Paul before release.
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Well... that performance pack was crap!... bootloop!...
Stock ROM 0606...
And now i have problems with CWM recovery.. :S
ASS!... just had everything tweaked... no backup working :S
*go hang myself*
EDIT: Well, execution avoided... got the nandroid working... *puh!*
Well, sorry to hear you ran into problems.
It worked with Baseband 0405.
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That's not quite right.
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Actually it is, that patch doesn't affect the lag associated with installing apps.
mike-o2 said:
That's not quite right.
There is a patch that Paul has made a week after the phones release.
r2-stock-performance-pack
And here is the explanation why this happens.
Explanation
Note the date of the post and mind that the phone was released In Europe In the last May weeks / begin of April.
If only every Android phone manufacturer gave their phones to Paul before release.
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I looked at that but had also heard it didn't fix the lag.
My other concern was would Flashing CWM Recovery affect getting official updates OTA
I'm sure someone has said before that LG updates fail if you have a custom recovery
If they're a standard update.zip then they should still install on ClockworkMod recovery.
i dont get it, am i the only one without any sort of lag when dling/installing apps ? it just does it, and pretty darn fast too.
what the hell. and im on STOCK, no performance patches or nothing, only rooted and some stuff frozen. v10B
I have a lag as well. Like you just rooted with some apps uninstalled.
I kinda accept it though. My thoughts are that FSecure is scanning the install and therefore that's what's causing the problem. It's worse if you update say 4-5 apps at once.
TBH I'm not worried. I'm the kinda guy who just leaves a PC installing and hass a cup of tea. Same difference here really isn't it?
It's not F-Secure, it does it with that removed.
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I have a lag as well. Like you just rooted with some apps uninstalled.
I kinda accept it though. My thoughts are that FSecure is scanning the install and therefore that's what's causing the problem. It's worse if you update say 4-5 apps at once.
TBH I'm not worried. I'm the kinda guy who just leaves a PC installing and hass a cup of tea. Same difference here really isn't it?
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i said i dont have lag..
xilw3r said:
i said i dont have lag..
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kinda hard to believe since everyone else do

[Q] AT&T Battery Issues

Anyone else notice that thier batteries are started to die faster?
Evilmonstertruck said:
Anyone else notice that thier batteries are started to die faster?
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my battery used to die insanely faster with Xposed installed. i no longer use it and i am just rooted with twrp and its the same as it always was
podagee said:
my battery used to die insanely faster with Xposed installed. i no longer use it and i am just rooted with twrp and its the same as it always was
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OK. I just uninstalled everything . iI tired everything but that. Thanks for the reply.
I also just read this:
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/detail...phone-lg-reportedly-unveil-ces-221032806.html
Evilmonstertruck said:
OK. I just uninstalled everything . iI tired everything but that. Thanks for the reply.
I also just read this:
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/detail...phone-lg-reportedly-unveil-ces-221032806.html
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Heres exactly what i did...... restored my phone to factory,update to latest firmware,rooted with stump, freedom flex for twrp,then used a root uninstaller app to remove at&t bloatware. Everything runs how it did the first day i got it.
podagee said:
Heres exactly what i did...... restored my phone to factory,update to latest firmware,rooted with stump, freedom flex for twrp,then used a root uninstaller app to remove at&t bloatware. Everything runs how it did the first day i got it.
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I had been meaning to do this for a while. But last night I went back to stock. It seems to be a little better but I will know more today.
Thx again.
Also now that it looks like there will be a Flex 2 I wonder how may people will get that one? and if I should get it too? Nexus 6 looks very tempting and my upgrade is in Feburary..
Evilmonstertruck said:
I had been meaning to do this for a while. But last night I went back to stock. It seems to be a little better but I will know more today.
Thx again.
Also now that it looks like there will be a Flex 2 I wonder how may people will get that one? and if I should get it too? Nexus 6 looks very tempting and my upgrade is in Feburary..
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What it all boils down to is user preference. If you like roms and a whole bunch of customizations then the Nexus 6 is the best way to go. Im sure the sales for the Flex 2 wont be too awesome due to the fact that users are experiencing difficulties due to lack of developement. I for one will probably get it cause i am now a devoted LG guy. Iphone is garbage and so is Samsung. Nexus is awesome and i will probably get the N6 once i see a nice decent price drop. But LG to me has changed tge game with their innovative ideas in my opinion. Lack of developement bothered me a while ago,but, now that i am too busy working, making e juice and playing cod i have no time to mess with my phone so it doesnt bother me as much,but, like i said its all user preference buddy.
podagee said:
What it all boils down to is user preference. If you like roms and a whole bunch of customizations then the Nexus 6 is the best way to go. Im sure the sales for the Flex 2 wont be too awesome due to the fact that users are experiencing difficulties due to lack of developement. I for one will probably get it cause i am now a devoted LG guy. Iphone is garbage and so is Samsung. Nexus is awesome and i will probably get the N6 once i see a nice decent price drop. But LG to me has changed tge game with their innovative ideas in my opinion. Lack of developement bothered me a while ago,but, now that i am too busy working, making e juice and playing cod i have no time to mess with my phone so it doesnt bother me as much,but, like i said its all user preference buddy.
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Very True.. And your right about LG, they make fantastic phones. So much so that it would be hard not to just get a LG G3. The camera on that phone is crazy awesome.. IDK its going to be a super tough choice in Feb for me

Looking Forward for S6 Update

Just and update on our update...
Looks like we might be expecting it in June for those of you who are patiently waiting everyday sitting by the computer waiting for some news... LOL
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s6-edge-android-5-1-update-607950/
Check it out, so far from related websites that I have been looking up, June is hopefully the special month.
I figured we were close after that edge 5.1.1 leak. This is good news but it's sad that even though tmobile is obviously in the testing phase for at least the s6 edge, they don't have it listed for any phase on their update page.
*edit*
Here is the link if anyone didn't know about it. https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/software-updates
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I figured we were close after that edge 5.1.1 leak. This is good news but it's sad that even though tmobile is obviously in the testing phase for at least the s6 edge, they don't have it listed for any phase on their update page.
*edit*
Here is the link if anyone didn't know about it. https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/software-updates
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Yea, true.. I hate that it takes so long because in the end the user experience is what suffers. Hopefully this fix some batt stats and memory usage tho.
Thanks for the link as well.
I'll believe it when I see it...I have heard too many times that it's right around the....
I can't wait, personally. My experience has been abysmal considering the heat this phone is packing, hardware wise. RAM management problems galore. Like if you took my N5 pre-5.1 and turned it up to 11. The most infuriating part is the keyboard getting killed halfway through typing in a search, or having my music stop in the middle of a song.
olkjas said:
I can't wait, personally. My experience has been abysmal considering the heat this phone is packing, hardware wise. RAM management problems galore. Like if you took my N5 pre-5.1 and turned it up to 11. The most infuriating part is the keyboard getting killed halfway through typing in a search, or having my music stop in the middle of a song.
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yeah, this is the worst android experience ive ever had. 5.0.2 on the s6 is terrible. i have never seen such unresponsive clicks, slow loading times, blank start up screens, slow keyboard in all of my prior phones (my m7 is definitely faster than this phone for daily use). I blame google. Not sure how much blame should be placed on TW or T-mo. but its ridiculous.
Did any of you come from 5.0 on the s5? This is a night and difference over the S5. Though I certainly wouldn't complain about my S6 and Moto 360 both seeing 5.1.1 at the same time, right now it is kind of like a race.
Billyvnilly said:
yeah, this is the worst android experience ive ever had. 5.0.2 on the s6 is terrible. i have never seen such unresponsive clicks, slow loading times, blank start up screens, slow keyboard in all of my prior phones (my m7 is definitely faster than this phone for daily use). I blame google. Not sure how much blame should be placed on TW or T-mo. but its ridiculous.
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The fixes are out there. You need to blame samsung for updating too slow.
BennyJr said:
The fixes are out there. You need to blame samsung for updating too slow.
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What do you mean? No other OEM has a 5.1.1 build out right now........
JoeFCaputo113 said:
What do you mean? No other OEM has a 5.1.1 build out right now........
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LG G4 came with 5.1.1. And from all accounts, outside of the ****ty LG skin it's rock solid.
mikeyinid said:
LG G4 came with 5.1.1. And from all accounts, outside of the ****ty LG skin it's rock solid.
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Well, it's shipping with 5.1.1. I'd expect Samsung/HTC to have their 5.1 builds in June.
JoeFCaputo113 said:
What do you mean? No other OEM has a 5.1.1 build out right now........
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I thought the Moto X 2014 was rolling out 5.1.1 now?
ipaq_101 said:
I'll believe it when I see it...I have heard too many times that it's right around the....
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Did you get it yet??? LOL
Dweet said:
Did you get it yet??? LOL
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I did not, apparently the memory management issues haven't been resolved and root isn't working, so I will wait until the noise is cleared out.

Android Wear 1.5.0.3269884

Overnight updated to 1.5.0.3269884. Any one know whats new?
Blu
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BluPhant said:
Overnight updated to 1.5.0.3269884. Any one know whats new?
Blu
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sept security patches
adm1jtg said:
sept security patches
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So weird that it updated without intervention, was starting to suspect I'd been Mr. Roboted or something. I never set stuff to auto update.......
Thanks for the info.
-blu
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So weird that it updated without intervention, was starting to suspect I'd been Mr. Roboted or something. I never set stuff to auto update.......
Thanks for the info.
-blu
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Mine prompted me to updated after charging
https://android.googleapis.com/pack.../381006a95e6b3c2b134c5a37bc6057d943634d95.zip
Here's OTA Link
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Mine prompted me to updated after charging
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Maybe mine did. Was fumbling to get on charger late night. Probably just a simple prompt missed.
Blu
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This was quite a big update. Mine needed ca. 1/2 hour to update with several restarts and I needed to reset to factory and configure watch again resulting in 50% battery-loss.
So, I have a new watch (that I haven't opened, yet), and I'm thinking that I should just wait for Android Wear 2.0 to come out before my first usage, rather than install an update now, and another big update in a couple of weeks.
What do you all think?
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So, I have a new watch (that I haven't opened, yet), and I'm thinking that I should just wait for Android Wear 2.0 to come out before my first usage, rather than install an update now, and another big update in a couple of weeks.
What do you all think?
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Well as far as I know its never been confirmed our watch (original urbane) will get 2.0 I don't know they have made a statement either way actuallu. Now if you have the lte urbane yes you will get 2.0 but waiting seems silly either way. You spend all that money on a watch why not use it?
Yeah not really understanding the thought process on that. You've bought it. Just use it and enjoy it. Android wear 2.0 will be a nice chance if we get it, but there is nothing wrong with the current software.
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Well as far as I know its never been confirmed our watch (original urbane) will get 2.0 I don't know they have made a statement either way actuallu. Now if you have the lte urbane yes you will get 2.0 but waiting seems silly either way. You spend all that money on a watch why not use it?
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on spanish lg urbane site it states that this watch has 2.0
as a physical button is a requirement (which the urbane has) it's very likely to get 2.0 while seeing they are putting out a good job delivering security patches.
I've read numerous sources saying the Urbane will get Wear 2. And given that it's LG's last generation of smartwatch behind only the Urbane 2nd edition, and that it fulfils all hardware requirements to get the update, it really wouldn't speak well of LG's support for their hardware if they refuse to give it the update. And strictly speaking, the Watch R should also get it given that the only difference between it and the Urbane is visual, but as that is two generations back it's perhaps expecting a little too much.
I for one will be p****d if LG leave the Urbane behind with this update.

Got an update today for the T800

After so many years:l, so strange:
It's T800XXU1CVG1/T800OXA1CVG1
what's new
Gps stability had been improved
That's it.
I'm going in, wish me luck
I got that too - a little suspicious. How was it? Did you do a security scan after?
Got it late at night I thought I was dreaming haha.
Installed it, haven't noticed anything different so far, though of course it's not my main tablet anymore so I don't use it as much as I used to.
episode96 said:
Got it late at night I thought I was dreaming haha.
Installed it, haven't noticed anything different so far, though of course it's not my main tablet anymore so I don't use it as much as I used to.
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This update scares me and more with Samsung... Could you tell me how it works since you updated it? Especially the battery that could well be that Samsung has sent it to kill it hahaha
Princeland said:
This update scares me and more with Samsung... Could you tell me how it works since you updated it? Especially the battery that could well be that Samsung has sent it to kill it hahaha
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No change whatsoever. Battery life is terrible but just like before. It's the original battery so you get the idea.
Thanks for the comments. I got this update a few weeks ago as well and kept postponing it. I mean, it's great that Samsung pushes updates after all this time, but the changelog is utterly useless: it's the same generic description that came with a similarly unexpected update a year or so ago, so it's impossible to tell what it will _really_ do to your device. My friends joked it's probably a mercy kill.
So yeah, I can't help but feel somewhat suspicious -- especially when you see a "GPS stability update" 2 years in a row in an 8 year old device. It almost seems like the changelog is copy-pasted from a template and designed to convince people into just installing whatever. Who wouldn't want more stable GPS, right?
Anyway, may as well do it. If it installs ads or something, I suppose I can always switch to a free / open system instead.
very likely the only change Samsung did was to GPS, to address GPS week number rollover
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Thanks for the comments. I got this update a few weeks ago as well and kept postponing it. I mean, it's great that Samsung pushes updates after all this time, but the changelog is utterly useless: it's the same generic description that came with a similarly unexpected update a year or so ago, so it's impossible to tell what it will _really_ do to your device. My friends joked it's probably a mercy kill.
So yeah, I can't help but feel somewhat suspicious -- especially when you see a "GPS stability update" 2 years in a row in an 8 year old device. It almost seems like the changelog is copy-pasted from a template and designed to convince people into just installing whatever. Who wouldn't want more stable GPS, right?
Anyway, may as well do it. If it installs ads or something, I suppose I can always switch to a free / open system instead.
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Hahaha, your friends know well what Samsung is capable of doing... I still haven't installed the gps update, I have installed greenify without root but with the paid version that allows me to force stop system apps and so on with a touch I don't get that update so many times anymore. My Tab S 8.4 I changed the battery 4 years ago (New power 99) for 60e and I still get 8 hours of screen watching netflix 100% of the time. I'm worried about one thing... how long will netflix continue to support this fabulous tablet?

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