Anyone have luck installing Google Duo? - Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I don't remember the version my Fire is on but its one of the earlier stock FireOS, rooted, and Google Framework installed. The play store says it's not compatible. Has anyone else tried to install Duo on FireOS or CM/other custom OS? I'm betting a simple build.prop edit may fix the issue but am wondering what others are experiencing and/or what you've done to fix the issue. No point in reinventing the wheel.

PIYIRIO said:
I don't remember the version my Fire is on but its one of the earlier stock FireOS, rooted, and Google Framework installed. The play store says it's not compatible. Has anyone else tried to install Duo on FireOS or CM/other custom OS? I'm betting a simple build.prop edit may fix the issue but am wondering what others are experiencing and/or what you've done to fix the issue. No point in reinventing the wheel.
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Try side-loading from here: http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/duo-by-google/

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"unfortunately, Google Play Services has stopped" when trying to mirror from Nexus 5

"unfortunately, Google Play Services has stopped" when trying to mirror from Nexus 5
Who all else having this problem? I've seen a few other people mention this problem as well. I'm on a stock rom, rooted. These are the steps I've taken so far to fix the issue, to no avail:
Rebooted phone
Rebooted Chromecast
Factory reset Chromecast
Fixed permissions
Uninstalled xposed
Tried the new experimental app to enable casting on other devices
Uninstalled Koushik's mirror app
Any other ideas? Also, I'm on the latest versions of Google Play store and the Chromecast app as well.
newmind02 said:
Who all else having this problem? I've seen a few other people mention this problem as well. I'm on a stock rom, rooted. These are the steps I've taken so far to fix the issue, to no avail:
Rebooted phone
Rebooted Chromecast
Factory reset Chromecast
Fixed permissions
Uninstalled xposed
Tried the new experimental app to enable casting on other devices
Uninstalled Koushik's mirror app
Any other ideas? Also, I'm on the latest versions of Google Play store and the Chromecast app as well.
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Same here dude kept on getting the error so I thought it must've been the ROM so I switched from 3 Roms and can say that that was not the issue. Can also use some help right now on the s4
I seem to be facing the exact same issue on the Nexus 5, unfortunately. I don't seem to see any workarounds for this
blueren said:
I seem to be facing the exact same issue on the Nexus 5, unfortunately. I don't seem to see any workarounds for this
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If you have tried all four versions of mirror enabler and it did t work, look in logcat and see if audio.r_submix loaded. If you don't see it, or see an error that it couldn't find or load that module, it is not baked into the rom. Contact rom maintainer and ask that it be added.
hwong96 said:
If you have tried all four versions of mirror enabler and it did t work, look in logcat and see if audio.r_submix loaded. If you don't see it, or see an error that it couldn't find or load that module, it is not baked into the rom. Contact rom maintainer and ask that it be added.
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Figured out that this is because of the viperAudio flashable zip.
blueren said:
Figured out that this is because of the viperAudio flashable zip.
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Its not working for me. i am getting unfortunately google play services has stopped. Any help would be appreciated
unfortunately, google play services has stopped
If you are getting this problem in your phone.
Then to solve this problem follow these steps
1- go to settings- apps
2- search for GOOGLE PLAY SERVICES
3- DISABLE THE APPLICATION
Then it will tell you to uninstall or disable the ANDROID MANAGER
Do it....
Now open any application in your phone which requires GOOGLE PLAY SERVICES
it will tell you to enable and update GOOGLE PLAY SERVICES do it.....
The problem is solved........
Enjoy your error free phone.....

app download gives -505 error code

I have 3 apps that when I try to download (after flashing a rom) that give me an "unknown error code during application install -505"
Thoughts?
I've cleared cache and data and forced stopped the play store...
I've checked to see if any folders or files are in root or in data/data and I found some and deleted but nothing. Still won't download.
CCJ22 said:
I have 3 apps that when I try to download (after flashing a rom) that give me an "unknown error code during application install -505"
Thoughts?
I've cleared cache and data and forced stopped the play store...
I've checked to see if any folders or files are in root or in data/data and I found some and deleted but nothing. Still won't download.
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i had one that got that code. what i did to fix this is i found that app using google(not play store), installed it that way, then uninstalled it via the pkay store, then reinstalled it in the play store.
Yea I'm getting that problem with Terminal Emulator for Android by Jack Palevich. Not sure what the deal is. Aggravating since ROM Toolbox Terminal FC, and another that I've tried. Rastapop with leanKernel.
Last time that happened to me I fixed it by using Root Explorer (any file manager with root access should work tho) and deleted the "com.appname......" file from data/data partition from system root level, not SD.
Then went back to Play Store and installed fine.
via OnePlus or N5
truckroot said:
Last time that happened to me I fixed it by using Root Explorer (any file manager with root access should work tho) and deleted the "com.appname......" file from data/data partition from system root level, not SD.
Then went back to Play Store and installed fine.
via OnePlus or N5
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I found the location, but not the app that supposedly downloaded and didn't install. App is Terminal Emulator by Jack Palevich.
saddog5523 said:
I found the location, but not the app that supposedly downloaded and didn't install. App is Terminal Emulator by Jack Palevich.
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Look for jackpal.androidterm file?
via OnePlus or N5
simms22 said:
i had one that got that code. what i did to fix this is i found that app using google(not play store), installed it that way, then uninstalled it via the pkay store, then reinstalled it in the play store.
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I tried that but the outsourced .apk didn't install. It said error. Tried 3 other sources. Same problem.
saddog5523 said:
Yea I'm getting that problem with Terminal Emulator for Android by Jack Palevich. Not sure what the deal is. Aggravating since ROM Toolbox Terminal FC, and another that I've tried. Rastapop with leanKernel.
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Man I'm sorry. I know the feeling. Is yours a -505 error #?
truckroot said:
Last time that happened to me I fixed it by using Root Explorer (any file manager with root access should work tho) and deleted the "com.appname......" file from data/data partition from system root level, not SD.
Then went back to Play Store and installed fine.
via OnePlus or N5
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Tried that. Still the problem remains.
CCJ22 said:
I tried that but the outsourced .apk didn't install. It said error. Tried 3 other sources. Same problem.
Man I'm sorry. I know the feeling. Is yours a -505 error #?
Tried that. Still the problem remains.
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Yes, it's a -505 error. That's the only app I've had that problem with, though I don't download too many. I just want a terminal app to use with leanKernel so I can access lkconfig. I am thinking it might have something to do with me being on rastapop which is 5.0.1, what version and/or ROM are you using?
@saddog5523 I'm on euphoria beta, about to dirty flash to the latest version 1.0 off beta.
This -505 sucks...
had this happened a few days ago. had to restore a twrp backup. in mycase, it was some frozen/degreenified app
stas333 said:
had this happened a few days ago. had to restore a twrp backup. in mycase, it was some frozen/degreenified app
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I have no twrp backup of the play store or my apps.
Strangely the download happens from the play store, it's the install that hoses up. Making me think I have some file somewhere shettin bricks on the install.
I feel like I've tried everything.
Well. My main issue was with Terminal Emulator for Android by Jack Palevich. I clean flashed the new 5.0.1 and wiped/factory reset my device. Still had the same 505 error. It was crazy aggravating. I Google'd it to see if anyone else had the same issue, and found out that it was a permissions issue: http://android.stackexchange.com/qu...deal-with-unknown-installation-error-code-505
Every time I tried to access the baked in terminal emulator within Rom Toolbox Lite, it would force close the app. I got aggravated at Rom Toolbox Lite and uninstalled it, and while I was in the play store, decided to try Terminal Emulator for Android again. This time it worked. I uninstalled Terminal and installed Rom Toolbox Lite to test my new theory, and found that the two apps do not play well with each other for some reason. Even when I try to install Rom Toolbox Lite after I already have Terminal installed, it would give me the same 505 error. Apparently I can have one or the other, which honestly makes no sense at all.
I'm guessing that error could be fixed (possibly) by uninstalling applications that have the same feature. i.e. Terminal Emulator for Android and Rom Toolbox Lite. One of the apps you have installed might be causing the error in trying to install another app. Hope this helps someone with the same issue.
@CCJ22 @simms22 @truckroot @stas333
saddog5523 said:
Well. My main issue was with Terminal Emulator for Android by Jack Palevich. I clean flashed the new 5.0.1 and wiped/factory reset my device. Still had the same 505 error. It was crazy aggravating. I Google'd it to see if anyone else had the same issue, and found out that it was a permissions issue: http://android.stackexchange.com/qu...deal-with-unknown-installation-error-code-505
Every time I tried to access the baked in terminal emulator within Rom Toolbox Lite, it would force close the app. I got aggravated at Rom Toolbox Lite and uninstalled it, and while I was in the play store, decided to try Terminal Emulator for Android again. This time it worked. I uninstalled Terminal and installed Rom Toolbox Lite to test my new theory, and found that the two apps do not play well with each other for some reason. Even when I try to install Rom Toolbox Lite after I already have Terminal installed, it would give me the same 505 error. Apparently I can have one or the other, which honestly makes no sense at all.
I'm guessing that error could be fixed (possibly) by uninstalling applications that have the same feature. i.e. Terminal Emulator for Android and Rom Toolbox Lite. One of the apps you have installed might be causing the error in trying to install another app. Hope this helps someone with the same issue.
@CCJ22 @simms22 @truckroot @stas333
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Thanks I will have to try this tonight.
Are you running 5.0.1 ? I had this issue with an app when I first got my phone and with some research found out the problem was apparently fixed in the 5.0.1 OTA, well it fixed it for me. This is one of the changes that fixes it.
cupfulloflol said:
Are you running 5.0.1 ? I had this issue with an app when I first got my phone and with some research found out the problem was apparently fixed in the 5.0.1 OTA, well it fixed it for me. This is one of the changes that fixes it.
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I've got 5.0.1 and am still having this issue installing GTasks. Does anyone have a solution?
carrot34 said:
I've got 5.0.1 and am still having this issue installing GTasks. Does anyone have a solution?
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Are you running the stock ROM?
The problem is explained here in more detail. You basically have to uninstall whatever is conflicting with the app install. A logcat should be able to tell you where the conflict is.
cupfulloflol said:
Are you running the stock ROM?
The problem is explained here in more detail. You basically have to uninstall whatever is conflicting with the app install. A logcat should be able to tell you where the conflict is.
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Thanks. Yes, I'm running the stock ROM and not rooted. It's basically just out of the box and with the 5.0.1 OTA update. The conflict is between Pure Calendar Widget and GTasks. If I uninstall one app, the other will install. But if I try to install _both_, I get the 505 error. Is there any way around this? The post you linked to says that this has been fixed in 5.0.1, but it doesn't look like that to me.
Thanks!
Alan
carrot34 said:
Thanks. Yes, I'm running the stock ROM and not rooted. It's basically just out of the box and with the 5.0.1 OTA update. The conflict is between Pure Calendar Widget and GTasks. If I uninstall one app, the other will install. But if I try to install _both_, I get the 505 error. Is there any way around this? The post you linked to says that this has been fixed in 5.0.1, but it doesn't look like that to me.
Thanks!
Alan
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I honestly think it's something either the developers will have to work out in a new version of their app, or Google will have to fix in a new phone update. Whichever comes first. 5.0.1 was supposed to fix it, but like you and I and others have noticed, it's still a problem. You're just going to have to use one or the other for now.
so, what you're saying is we're pretty much SOL until it is actually fixed...
the thing is, google is saying they fixed it on 5.0.1
if it's not actually fixed then people who can report it, should report it...
I do not have the permissions or "prestige" to post on StackOverFlow or code.google.com to say that the bug has not been fixed...

[Q]Play Movies/TV with Root?

Hello All,
So, I have been away from Android for a bit (not my choice ), and it seems that I am unable to play movies and tv show from Google Play if I am rooted, or even using a permissive kernel. I just get the try again later, restart, blah blah error. Is this the norm nowadays? I googled/searched XDA and only found a thread about the HTC M8 where this was discussed (with no solution other than rootcloaker). I thought Google had had stopped that a while back?
Any informed input appreciated, as I like to use my own ROMs/kernels. I will logcat/dive deeper if no-one knows, and see how far that gets me...
Thanks!
Steve
I have never used Google Play for music or movies but I was wondering if you could still install apps or use gmail. Curious if its related to account. I'm sure it would be mentioned more often if it was a common problem , so very possible a setup issue!?
Bubba Fett said:
I have never used Google Play for music or movies but I was wondering if you could still install apps or use gmail. Curious if its related to account. I'm sure it would be mentioned more often if it was a common problem , so very possible a setup issue!?
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I am thinking along the same lines, as a search turned up basically nada, but I just wanted to rule out the obvious. Thanks!
Steve
Sure. You could always try a kernel or rom from the development section as a test and narrow it down. Wish I knew more of the inner workings, but still learning. hope you get it back on track. Its a very nice device.
sk806 said:
Hello All,
So, I have been away from Android for a bit (not my choice ), and it seems that I am unable to play movies and tv show from Google Play if I am rooted, or even using a permissive kernel. I just get the try again later, restart, blah blah error. Is this the norm nowadays? I googled/searched XDA and only found a thread about the HTC M8 where this was discussed (with no solution other than rootcloaker). I thought Google had had stopped that a while back?
Any informed input appreciated, as I like to use my own ROMs/kernels. I will logcat/dive deeper if no-one knows, and see how far that gets me...
Thanks!
Steve
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Same problem on the S2. However, play books and music work great. Let us know if you discover anything, please?
graysooner said:
Same problem on the S2. However, play books and music work great. Let us know if you discover anything, please?
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Okay. Just restored this tab to stock. Google play movies worked fine. Then redid the root process and Google play movies don't work. Did some searching and apparently root breaks google play movies. Anyone?
I'm having the same issue... also couldn't get hulu to play anything. Twitch and Netflix work fine.. google play and hulu, no bueno. My Nexus 6p is rooted though and it plays hulu and google play movies just fine... so it's not necessarily root.. it's something with this tablet and root.
Suggested in the T917T Root thread: if you're running Xposed, give root cloaking a shot.
jazzmachine said:
Suggested in the T917T Root thread: if you're running Xposed, give root cloaking a shot.
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I think you're correct. I have a rooted LG G4 and play movies works fine on it. I'll see if I can get exposed and root cloak going.
Edit: no luck with root cloak.
Just an idea, no idea if it will work, but has anyone tried downloading a movie from google play movies while the device is rooted, and seeing if it plays? I'd do it myself, but my device currently isn't rooted, so could someone test that for me?
NeutronBomb said:
I'm having the same issue... also couldn't get hulu to play anything. Twitch and Netflix work fine.. google play and hulu, no bueno. My Nexus 6p is rooted though and it plays hulu and google play movies just fine... so it's not necessarily root.. it's something with this tablet and root.
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Yes. It seems to be this tablet, and perhaps Samsung generally...
I have been busy, but will root my tablet and try to figure it out.
Steve
Nbay64 said:
Just an idea, no idea if it will work, but has anyone tried downloading a movie from google play movies while the device is rooted, and seeing if it plays? I'd do it myself, but my device currently isn't rooted, so could someone test that for me?
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does not work, unfortunately. Its a Samsung security and DRM issue. I'm working on it.
Steve
sk806 said:
does not work, unfortunately. Its a Samsung security and DRM issue. I'm working on it.
Steve
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Alright, let me know if you come up with a solution.
Nbay64 said:
Alright, let me know if you come up with a solution.
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Which android build 5.0.2 or 5.1.1?
ashyx said:
Which android build 5.0.2 or 5.1.1?
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I'm on 5.1.1 OJ1
Nbay64 said:
I'm on 5.1.1 OJ1
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You may be in luck. Try Chainfire's new v2.60 systemless root.
It may work as android pay also apparently works.
ashyx said:
You may be in luck. Try Chainfire's new v2.60 systemless root.
It may work as android pay also apparently works.
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Do I have to be rooted already before I use the systemless root? Or will that root my device on its own? I'm a little bit confused on how to go about installing this.
Nbay64 said:
Do I have to be rooted already before I use the systemless root? Or will that root my device on its own? I'm a little bit confused on how to go about installing this.
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System partition needs to be complete stock so no previous root.
Just install as you would any other supersu zip.
It will unpack and patch the boot.img on the fly and install systemless root.
Have a backup ready.
ashyx said:
System partition needs to be complete stock so no previous root.
Just install as you would any other supersu zip.
It will unpack and patch the boot.img on the fly and install systemless root.
Have a backup ready.
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I was on stock firmware, installed TWRP (I did NOT use CF-autoroot before hand!) and then flashed the 2.60 beta, and it threw my device into a bootloop. Did I do something wrong?
Nbay64 said:
I was on stock firmware, installed TWRP (I did NOT use CF-autoroot before hand!) and then flashed the 2.60 beta, and it threw my device into a bootloop. Did I do something wrong?
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It should work on 5.1.1. Are you sure you didn't have root before? The system needs to be clean. When supersu installed did it say systemless root?
If everything was as it should be then you need to make a bug report in the supersu thread to Chainfire.

Anyone with Fire and CM12 installed on it- can you run firefox?

hi,
I have a fire (2015 ) and CM12.1 (taken from this forum).
I'm trying to install firefox.apk and firefox-beta.apk taken from the google playstore but it keeps telling me "app not installed".
I'm tearing my hair over this and have already tried many things and wasted many days but it only now occurred to me that it might just be a problem with CM or the Fire tablet (or their combination).
If any one could please try and install those two apps and tell me of the results (and of what version ROM/device they have) that would be great!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mozilla.firefox
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mozilla.firefox_beta
Thank you very much.
oy-ster said:
hi,
I have a fire (2015 ) and CM12.1 (taken from this forum).
I'm trying to install firefox.apk and firefox-beta.apk taken from the google playstore but it keeps telling me "app not installed".
I'm tearing my hair over this and have already tried many things and wasted many days but it only now occurred to me that it might just be a problem with CM or the Fire tablet (or their combination).
If any one could please try and install those two apps and tell me of the results (and of what version ROM/device they have) that would be great!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mozilla.firefox
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mozilla.firefox_beta
Thank you very much.
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Production version installed fine; didn't try the beta. 5th gen Fire (obviously); @ggow's CM 12-1 B2016710. If the problem persists wipe everything and reload CM. Or side load from apkmirror:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/mozilla/firefox/
Exceptionally unlikely there is anything wrong with your device hardware.
Davey126 said:
Production version installed fine; didn't try the beta. 5th gen Fire (obviously); @ggow's CM 12-1 B2016710. If the problem persists wipe everything and reload CM. Or side load from apkmirror:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/mozilla/firefox/
Exceptionally unlikely there is anything wrong with your device hardware.
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Thank you very much!
Ok, so it's not the device and it's unlikely to be the ROM (since we have the same version). Then I guess it's in the apk or the method I use to extract it (ASTRO File Manager)... pffffftt.
quick question- this apkmirror site, what do you know about it?
oy-ster said:
quick question- this apkmirror site, what do you know about it?
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Legit (understatement of the year)

HELP! ,2015 fire 7 , root RR custom rom ,google play services not working

i don't know what i did ,this tablet was working fine for 2 years with RR custom rom i used root junky tools to root and install RR custom rom,pico gaps, xposedframework ,and android custom boot animation from 5.0,1 , it was working one second and then all of a sudden the google app , gmail ,and youtube all say
" "app name" relies on google play services which is not supported by your device ,contact manufacturer "
how do i fix this and how did it happen? funny thing is that the play store still works and apps can update but i can't use any google apps
all i did was log into a secondary account and then try and install the google app which was already installed on the primary account , the google app stopped working then it worked and then it stopped again and now none of the google apps will work on either account,how do i fix this?
google play services version is 11.9.75(230-182402865)
i tried uninstalling the google app from the secondary account and then tried using gmail and youtube on the secondary account and it does not work, then tried on the primary account and it does not work , then i tried uninstalling the google app from the primary account
and rebooting , and it still does not work
how can i fix this without having to reflash everything?
how do i stop this from happening again?
and i have 2 other tablets i set ap the same way only on those i used flash fire because they were on 5.1.1 i think
do i now have to worry about it happening to those tablets too?
should i not ever update or install any google apps from the play store again?
update: ok this is really strange , i booted one of my other tablets i set up the same way only it was flashed with flash fire from 5.1.1 instead of 5.0.1 and TWRP
(i have 3 5th gen fire 7's running RR custom rom, root, with xposed , 2 were on 5.1.1 and flashed with flash fire and one was on 5.0.1 and flashed with TWRP , all with root junky tools)
i first went to gmail and then to youtube both worked fine , then i went to the play store and i updated an app , not an app that uses play services though,
then i noticed a notification pop up that said something about google play services not being supported on the device , so i went to launch gmail again and then it was doing the same thing as it was on the other tablet , then i launched youtube , and same thing
then like a minute later after closing the apps and trying them again , they worked fine
i really would like to to know what is going on here
next i will try the 3rd tablet, , that one was the last one i set up and has the least apps on it
just to be clear here the play store works just fine , i can update ,install and uninstall apps through it
and my account is visible in the playstore and my accounts show up in the tablet
just cant get any google apps like gmail ,youtube , google plus and the google app working
gdroid666 said:
i tried uninstalling the google app from the secondary account and then tried using gmail and youtube on the secondary account and it does not work, then tried on the primary account and it does not work , then i tried uninstalling the google app from the primary account
and rebooting , and it still does not work
how can i fix this without having to reflash everything?
how do i stop this from happening again?
and i have 2 other tablets i set ap the same way only on those i used flash fire because they were on 5.1.1 i think
do i now have to worry about it happening to those tablets too?
should i not ever update or install any google apps from the play store again?
update: ok this is really strange , i booted one of my other tablets i set up the same way only it was flashed with flash fire from 5.1.1 instead of 5.0.1 and TWRP
(i have 3 5th gen fire 7's running RR custom rom, root, with xposed , 2 were on 5.1.1 and flashed with flash fire and one was on 5.0.1 and flashed with TWRP , all with root junky tools)
i first went to gmail and then to youtube both worked fine , then i went to the play store and i updated an app , not an app that uses play services though,
then i noticed a notification pop up that said something about google play services not being supported on the device , so i went to launch gmail again and then it was doing the same thing as it was on the other tablet , then i launched youtube , and same thing
then like a minute later after closing the apps and trying them again , they worked fine
i really would like to to know what is going on here
next i will try the 3rd tablet, , that one was the last one i set up and has the least apps on it
just to be clear here the play store works just fine , i can update ,install and uninstall apps through it
and my account is visible in the playstore and my accounts show up in the tablet
just cant get any google apps like gmail ,youtube , google plus and the google app working
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Google (any many 3rd party) apps rely on Google Play Services for core/shared functionality. Play Services/Framework is supposed to seemlessly auto-update in the background and usually does. Believe you saw that happen on your 2nd tablet. For whatever reason the framework appears borked on the 1st device.
As previously advised fixing Google Play Services issues is difficult/unreliable without a fresh install. Given you can boot twrp on the device having this issue I suggest the following:
- boot into TWRP and backup the current (nonworking) environment
- dirty flash RR, SuperSU and a suitable OpenGApps package
- verify everything is working correctly
- proceed to a 'clean' flash if the trouble persists
Dirty flashing will preserve existing apps/data/settings and is obviously less disruptive. Effectively the way a FireOS OTA update works. However, it doesn't always work and can create additional problems.
Davey126 said:
Google (any many 3rd party) apps rely on Google Play Services for core/shared functionality. Play Services/Framework is supposed to seemlessly auto-update in the background and usually does. Believe you saw that happen on your 2nd tablet. For whatever reason the framework appears borked on the 1st device.
As previously advised fixing Google Play Services issues is difficult/unreliable without a fresh install. Given you can boot twrp on the device having this issue I suggest the following:
- boot into TWRP and backup the current (nonworking) environment
- dirty flash RR, SuperSU and a suitable OpenGApps package
- verify everything is working correctly
- proceed to a 'clean' flash if the trouble persists
Dirty flashing will preserve existing apps/data/settings and is obviously less disruptive. Effectively the way a FireOS OTA update works. However, it doesn't always work and can create additional problems.
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ok thanks so what kind of additional problems? nothing serious like bricking right?
i do not know the difference between clean and dirty flash so how would i go about that from TWRP
i don't even remember how to get TWRP , i assume i need to get the tablet into fastboot ,i also forgot how i do that
and i may have uninstalled the clockwork mod driver from my PC not sure if i need those or not
is there a guide you can link me to on how to get the tablet into tethered TWRP and which option i need to select from it , i think i have the files i used for the initial flash somewhere i should be able to find those, the RR rom, gapps ,
super SU
also where would the backup go exactly? to an SD card? would you happen to know how much space i would need , if it goes to internal then how do i get the backup to Sd?
also what about xposed framework would that remain intact after a "dirty flash"
should i also add the xposed framework to the zip at the time of dirty flash if not or would i have to do after?
i can not remember too much about how i set this thing up and this is probably the only time i have ever used TWRP , the other 2 tablets i used FF
also could i just a dirty flash from FF? , guess i should use TWRP since i can note make a backup with FF right?
EDIT: i really have no clue what i am doing here ,what are the chances that when google play services updates in the background next time it will just fix itself? should i wait a few weeks and see if it corrects itself 1st?
gdroid666 said:
EDIT: i really have no clue what i am doing here ,what are the chances that when google play services updates in the background next time it will just fix itself? should i wait a few weeks and see if it corrects itself 1st?
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Try updating Google Play Services from here. It usually doesn't work but worth a shot given your level of familiarity with managing your custom build.
Davey126 said:
Try updating Google Play Services from here. It usually doesn't work but worth a shot given your level of familiarity with managing your custom build.
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yeah i tried it a few times ,rebooted and tried again and it is snot working
it is weird because on gmail i can click outside the message box that says no google play services and then i see my gmail account and it says getting your messages , and syncing but it just hangs forever and with youtube i get notifications for new videos for channels i am subbed to, when i click on the notification and open youtube from there the video plays but there is no video just audio and the no google play services message is there and everything is greyed out but i can hear the sound from the video
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yeah i tried it a few times ,rebooted and tried again and it is snot working
it is weird because on gmail i can click outside the message box that says no google play services and then i see my gmail account and it says getting your messages , and syncing but it just hangs forever and with youtube i get notifications for new videos for channels i am subbed to, when i click on the notification and open youtube from there the video plays but there is no video just audio and the no google play services message is there and everything is greyed out but i can hear the sound from the video
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Yep - not unexpected from a borked Play Services is install. You're probably gonna have to bit the bullet and perform a fresh install. At that time it may be wise to consider a shift to a different ROM. Nothing wrong with RR but it isn't being updated which could eventually lead to further issues.
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Yep - not unexpected from a borked Play Services is install. You're probably gonna have to bit the bullet and perform a fresh install. At that time it may be wise to consider a shift to a different ROM. Nothing wrong with RR but it isn't being updated which could eventually lead to further issues.
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well the rom is working on the other 2 tablets it acted up for a minute then worked again on one of them
i am wondering if that issue could be because i had the internal memory maxed out?
it was almost 100% full then i started moving some apps to the sd card , maybe it tried to update and ran out of memory or something and got only partially updated?
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well the rom is working on the other 2 tablets it acted up for a minute then worked again on one of them
i am wondering if that issue could be because i had the internal memory maxed out?
it was almost 100% full then i started moving some apps to the sd card , maybe it tried to update and ran out of memory or something and got only partially updated?
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Possibly. Trying to perform forensics w/o supporting data is a bit of a fools errand. What happened to your device is neither common nor rare. I would focus on remediation which likely means an uncomfortable rebuild (due to unfamiliarity with procedures). You are fortunate to have TWRP access which removes most of the risk. Unless it self-resolves (unlikely) you're going to have to get your hands dirty one way or the other.
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Possibly. Trying to perform forensics w/o supporting data is a bit of a fools errand. What happened to your device is neither common nor rare. I would focus on remediation which likely means an uncomfortable rebuild (due to unfamiliarity with procedures). You are fortunate to have TWRP access which removes most of the risk. Unless it self-resolves (unlikely) you're going to have to get your hands dirty one way or the other.
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so what would the risk be if i were to try and side load the .APK's for the play services to try and fix it that way?
which .apk's would i need and in what order would i need to install them , is it worth a shot to try and manually install them from .apk and see hat happens?
if not and i need to do twrp route then would i install the xposed framework zip at the same time
can i flash the rom , gapps, super su , xposed, and custom boot animation zips or would i need to reboot 1st , which order would be best to line them up in TWRP to flash
also what do i do for dirty flash, ? just not wipe anything like dalvik cache? what do i wipe and not wipe?
ok i have booted into TWRP and i made a backup of everything including cache
now how would i go about dirty flashing
i just want to know what to do about xposed , will it remain in tact if i dirty flash the rom , gapps and super SU ?
or do i need to add the xposed zip when i do the dirty flash? would i need to also side load the xposed installer .apk after too again?
in what order do i need to add the zips to the install list? and what do i need to wipe and not wipe and what order?
gdroid666 said:
ok i have booted into TWRP and i made a backup of everything including cache
now how would i go about dirty flashing
i just want to know what to do about xposed , will it remain in tact if i dirty flash the rom , gapps and super SU ?
or do i need to add the xposed zip when i do the dirty flash? would i need to also side load the xposed installer .apk after too again?
in what order do i need to add the zips to the install list? and what do i need to wipe and not wipe and what order?
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As a precaution you should copy (not move) the TWRP folder to off-line storage. If the folder is located in the external SD card that's reasonably safe. Take a deep breath and proceed as follows:
- verify you have all of the required zips located somewhere on the device or external SD card
- boot into TWRP
- wipe the system partition ONLY
- install the following zips in the order listed (individually or as a group; doesn't matter):
--> RR ROM
--> GApps package (suggest arm/5.1/nano; nothing larger than mini)
--> SuperSU 2.76 or 2.82 SR5 (avoid versions between 2.76 and 2.82)
--> Xposed Framework v89
Once all the of installations are complete accept the offer to wipe cache/dalvik and then reboot system.
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As a precaution you should copy (not move) the TWRP folder to off-line storage. If the folder is located in the external SD card that's reasonably safe. Take a deep breath and proceed as follows:
- verify you have all of the required zips located somewhere on the device or external SD card
- boot into TWRP
- wipe the system partition ONLY
- install the following zips in the order listed (individually or as a group; doesn't matter):
--> RR ROM
--> GApps package (suggest arm/5.1/nano; nothing larger than mini)
--> SuperSU 2.76 or 2.82 SR5 (avoid versions between 2.76 and 2.82)
--> Xposed Framework v89
Once all the of installations are complete accept the offer to wipe cache/dalvik and then reboot system.
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ok i am back again , i still have not done the dirty flash yet because i have been busy
i will probably try it soon with the original files i used to flash the rom and xposed with
but first i would like to get your input on this theory i have
ok i am thinking that because i have 3 5th gen fire 7 tablets all rooted and running custom roms ,and only one is having a problem , and that the one with the problem is the one with TWRP /unlocked bootloader
that this may be the cause of the problem
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-blocks-gapps-uncertified-devices-custom-rom-whitelist/
i have the same pico gapps flashed on all 3 devices but only one device has the unlocked bootloader
and that is the broken device , and the message that i get says " [app name] relies on google play services which is not supported by your device.please contact the device manufacturer"
i went into the play store under settings it did indeed say that the device is uncertified
i then installed an app to get my GFS device ID ,and converted the hexadecimal number into a decimal number and successfully submitted it to the whitelist site google/android/uncertified
it still did not fix the problem , then i cleared data and cache of the play store in settings/apps/play store
and tried again and nothing still , then i checked in play store settings and saw it no longer says incertified but it the field is gone completely now it does not say uncertified but it does not say certified either
then i went back to settings /apps/ google play store and removed updates and reverted back to factory play store and checked settings again there is still no field where the uncertified used to be and it is still not working
and now i don't know how to get the play store to update to latest version aside from sideloading it
i am not sure what to do next but what do you think about my tablet being broken because google now blocking gapps on uncertified devices as being the cause for this issue ,seems really strange to me that only the one tablet with the unlocked bootloader is being affected
but why did the whitelist also not work then ,i am really confused now and i am not seeing any other posts here about similar issues
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ok i am back again , i still have not done the dirty flash yet because i have been busy
i will probably try it soon with the original files i used to flash the rom and xposed with
but first i would like to get your input on this theory i have
ok i am thinking that because i have 3 5th gen fire 7 tablets all rooted and running custom roms ,and only one is having a problem , and that the one with the problem is the one with TWRP /unlocked bootloader
that this may be the cause of the problem
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-blocks-gapps-uncertified-devices-custom-rom-whitelist/
i have the same pico gapps flashed on all 3 devices but only one device has the unlocked bootloader
and that is the broken device , and the message that i get says " [app name] relies on google play services which is not supported by your device.please contact the device manufacturer"
i went into the play store under settings it did indeed say that the device is uncertified
i then installed an app to get my GFS device ID ,and converted the hexadecimal number into a decimal number and successfully submitted it to the whitelist site google/android/uncertified
it still did not fix the problem , then i cleared data and cache of the play store in settings/apps/play store
and tried again and nothing still , then i checked in play store settings and saw it no longer says incertified but it the field is gone completely now it does not say uncertified but it does not say certified either
then i went back to settings /apps/ google play store and removed updates and reverted back to factory play store and checked settings again there is still no field where the uncertified used to be and it is still not working
and now i don't know how to get the play store to update to latest version aside from sideloading it
i am not sure what to do next but what do you think about my tablet being broken because google now blocking gapps on uncertified devices as being the cause for this issue ,seems really strange to me that only the one tablet with the unlocked bootloader is being affected
but why did the whitelist also not work then ,i am really confused now and i am not seeing any other posts here about similar issues
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Your non-functioning tablet does NOT have an "unlocked bootloader". It has a coding oversight that allows a custom recovery (TWRP) to be booted from fastboot. In all other respects it is identical to the other two from a capability/signature perspective.
The policy change/enforcement you reference is not the cause as Google only starting blocking access a couple weeks ago. Nor will it likely impact this device based on my interpretation of the criteria Google applies.
What to do next? Reload as previously outlined. I also recommend (rather strongly) that you consider migrating to a supported ROM. At present that's either Fire Nexus or Lineage.
ok i finally got around to doing this
after the flash everything looked good, but i am still getting no play services , can't open youtube or gmail still
i get play services not supported by this device
gdroid666 said:
ok i finally got around to doing this
after the flash everything looked good, but i am still getting no play services , can't open youtube or gmail still
i get play services not supported by this device
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Sorry to hear that. Best move on to second recommendation from previous post.
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Sorry to hear that. Best move on to second recommendation from previous post.
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from what i have been reading trying to find a fix that probably will not work either
looks like a lot of people having this issue even with real android devices with factory roms including samsung phones on N and lenovo tablets
this OS is really turning into a complete dumpster fire, Google should have provided a fix but i feel that they are deliberately causing these issues to kill devices to drive sales or for some other nefarious purpose
either that or they are just totally incompetent
i have not seen a single person who posted that they have this issue get a resolution to it
how is this acceptable how have they not been sued for this yet?
i understand that this is a hacked Amazon device but this issue seems to persist across legit devices with factory roms as well and there is no official solution what are people to do if they bought an expensive Samsung device and have this unsolvable issue?
just toss it in the bin and buy a new one i guess
i can;t beleive there is no solution that is as simple as installing some .apk's
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from what i have been reading trying to find a fix that probably will not work either
looks like a slot of people having this issue even with real android devices with factory rom including samsung phone on N and lenovo tabets
this OS is really turning into a complete dumpster fire, Google should have provided a fix but i feel that they are deliberately causing these issues to kill devices to drive sales or for some other nefarious purpose
either that or they are just totally incompetent
i have not seen a single person who posted that they have this issue get a resolution to it
how is this acceptable how have they not been sues for this yet?
i understand that this is a hacked Amazon device but this issue seems to persist across legit devices with factory roms as well and there is no official solution what are people to do if they bought an expensive Samsung device and have this unsolvable issue?
just toss it in the bin and buy a new one i guess
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Sorry, don't subscribe to that line of thought. Google Play Services issues are largely self inflicted and almost always resolvable. Move to a supported ROM and the problem will likely go away. If you dumpster it in favor of something different stay away from current gen Amazon gizmos. With exception to the HD 10 none are rootable. Good luck.
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Sorry, don't subscribe to that line of thought. Google Play Services issues are largely self inflicted and almost always resolvable. Move to a supported ROM and the problem will likely go away. If you dumpster it in favor of something different stay away from current gen Amazon gizmos. With exception to the HD 10 none are rootable. Good luck.
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Yes i will try a new rom i guess which one is the most like the one i have now ?
and do you happen to know if any of them will support casting from the quick settings shade?
I actually did just buy the fire HD 10 on prime day for that very reason
but besides root what exactly can be done with it?
I mean no there are no custom roms or TWRP yet right
is anyone working on TWRP or a custom rom?
I kinda think i might want to leave it on fire OS to try out the always listening Alexa and Alexa show capabilities
Is it like the fire 7 where i can already remove lock screen ads install play store and change the launcher to nova without root even?
What does root allow on the HD 10 that is useful right now?
Would it possible to install xposed and youtube adaway on it with fire OS?
I have not opened it yet so do all current FW's support root still?
does the FW that added the Alexa show capabilities to fire OS still support root?
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Yes i will try a new rom i guess which one is the most like the one i have now ?
and do you happen to know if any of them will support casting from the quick settings shade?
I actually did just buy the fire HD 10 on prime day for that very reason
but besides root what exactly can be done with it?
I mean no there are no custom roms or TWRP yet right
is anyone working on TWRP or a custom rom?
I kinda think i might want to leave it on fire OS to try out the always listening Alexa and Alexa show capabilities
Is it like the fire 7 where i can already remove lock screen ads install play store and change the launcher to nova without root even?
What does root allow on the HD 10 that is useful right now?
Would it possible to install xposed and youtube adaway on it with fire OS?
I have not opened it yet so do all current FW's support root still?
does the FW that added the Alexa show capabilities to fire OS still support root?
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- I would go with Fire Nexus + Xposed and a few select modules for maximum flexibility if seeking to mimic the RR UX
- head here for the latest developments on HD 10 platform
- nothing wrong with curated FireOS + xposed once rooted. I ran with that config for quite some time with no regrets

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