Hello guys, I've got the OnePlus 5T and I was looking to upgrade to the Red Magic eventually but after watching that speed test video https://youtu.be/okGb8lqg8fA I don't see the RM being any faster and the active cooling seems to be a gimmick of some sort as it runs hotter than the OnePlus 5T as shown in that video. I know the firmware is not final but I seriously doubt they'll do any miracles especially in the stock version...but in the same time I'm scared of getting the Chinese version because it probably won't support Play Store and so on. What do you guys think, should I keep the OP5T?
Well hopefully we'll see more optimization before long on the RM. I haven't had any heat issues, and it has seemed cooler than most. Even when I was running an app to intentionally drain the battery by activating everything it didn't get that hot.
Overall for general performance, you won't see much performance difference between the two. They use a lot of the same components. Theoretically you should see some performance gains with game boost on because it locks the last four cores to their max frequency. No operations used trying to dynamically adjust. Really depends on if the app would even benefit from the frequency boost though.
Harfainx said:
Well hopefully we'll see more optimization before long on the RM. I haven't had any heat issues, and it has seemed cooler than most. Even when I was running an app to intentionally drain the battery by activating everything it didn't get that hot.
Overall for general performance, you won't see much performance difference between the two. They use a lot of the same components. Theoretically you should see some performance gains with game boost on because it locks the last four cores to their max frequency. No operations used trying to dynamically adjust. Really depends on if the app would even benefit from the frequency boost though.
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I guess if the game button triggers the full potential of the CPUs that's why it heats up more than the OP5T which never runs on 100% but somehow manages pretty much the same frame rates. You must be right about whether an app can actually utilise the full potential or not.
skromnia said:
I guess if the game button triggers the full potential of the CPUs that's why it heats up more than the OP5T which never runs on 100% but somehow manages pretty much the same frame rates. You must be right about whether an app can actually utilise the full potential or not.
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Old post revived. But did you see the stress test of antutu in that video ? Nubia tries to stay almost to 100% all the time. That's how a gaming aka performance phone should be.
ben cherian said:
Old post revived. But did you see the stress test of antutu in that video ? Nubia tries to stay almost to 100% all the time. That's how a gaming aka performance phone should be.
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How much battery and CPu temp you have while idle?
Hello. I am happy person with Note 9 who is not a power user. Is there a way to limit my cpu's cores all the time so that i can expand battery life during social media usage? I dont mean the battery saving options, i just want to limit my cpu's cores. [NO ROOOT]
I'm surprised to see a non-power user with a Note9! Haha.
I don't think you can change CPU frequencies without root, no. That's basically changing the governor.
PsiPhiDan said:
I'm surprised to see a non-power user with a Note9! Haha.
I don't think you can change CPU frequencies without root, no. That's basically changing the governor.
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I'm another , you know the chap with the 8 hours plus sot on his note 8 ?
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No... and just because you are not working hard on social media, does not mean the device isn't working hard. Facebook, in particular, is a terrible app, that uses far more memory and processor power than you would suspect. Also your phone is doing a ton in the background.
Ok, I have noticed through a lot of reviews that the snapdragon 660 doesnt perform really well in Mi A2. While other 660 phones score ~5800 points in geekbench multi-core test, Mi A2 only scores ~4600 points. Even RN5 with 636 scores ~4900 points. Of course this isn't the only benchmark where Mi A2 falls behind competitors with snapdragon 660s.
Currently I cant choose whether I should buy RN5 or Mi A2 (35euros more expensive). A2 has better camera and slightly better screen and usb C but much worse battery life and of course its more expensive.
Has anyone looked into this as why the 660 in A2 is underperforming like this?
Maybe some forum members could run the benchmark and post their results?
Don't know why, but I see that it underperforms even compared to MIUI (6X) version of the same hardware.
Comparison here:
yes, I also have a low benchmark performance, 4700 maximum in multicore
ILA said:
Don't know why, but I see that it underperforms even compared to MIUI (6X) version of the same hardware.
Comparison here:
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Hmm, it seems like the 6x took ~30s to render the video but A2 took around ~36s.
Also I took at look at this https://www.notebookcheck.net/Xiaomi-Mi-6X-Mi-A2-Smartphone-Review.315456.0.html The Mi 6X seems to be getting the same numbers as nokia 7 plus as it should be. Did Xiaomi **** up A2 or something?
I think that kernel sources should be looked at and check what's different and then recompile the kernel with 6X changes to see if that was the problem. I don't have time to do that now, but I have taken a quick look and I've seen some strange things regarding charging voltages (nothing alarming) as well as some accumulated bloat folders within the kernel simply due to the fact that A2 had a newer base for the fork. This all should be looked at. If no one does it by December/January, I'll give it a go then when a couple of personal things clear up.
There is specially something weird with the read/write speed on the Mia2 which I didn't heard from the mi6x (seems software related) this makes the Mia2 very slow as soon as it has to R/W lots of files. That would be a great explanation why some data heavy games takes ages on our devices
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There is specially something weird with the read/write speed on the Mia2 which I didn't heard from the mi6x (seems software related) this makes the Mia2 very slow as soon as it has to R/W lots of files. That would be a great explanation why some data heavy games takes ages on our devices
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Mi A2 has storage encryption enabled out of the box. Does anyone know if that is enabled by default on the 6X? If not, that would explain such a large difference in R/W speeds and even in performance to some extent...
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Mi A2 has storage encryption enabled out of the box. Does anyone know if that is enabled by default on the 6X? If not, that would explain such a large difference in R/W speeds and even in performance to some extent...
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Encryption didn't even have a performance impact on the Nexus 5x so I doubt any modern devices notice this
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There is specially something weird with the read/write speed on the Mia2 which I didn't heard from the mi6x (seems software related) this makes the Mia2 very slow as soon as it has to R/W lots of files. That would be a great explanation why some data heavy games takes ages on our devices
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I hope it is solved by software.
Benjamin_L said:
Encryption didn't even have a performance impact on the Nexus 5x so I doubt any modern devices notice this
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Well not in real life, but you surely will in synthetic benchmarks.
But I have to agree with you because I've run even my Nexus 5 the same way and was quite fine with the performance I got out of it.
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Well not in real life, but you surely will in synthetic benchmarks.
But I have to agree with you because I've run even my Nexus 5 the same way and was quite fine with the performance I got out of it.
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I wouldn't even think about having an unencrypted smartphone without a proper display lock. Too many valuable things on it
Hi,
Sorry for my english.
I'm having overheating issues after last MIUI update.
I can't play PUBG because of lags. My ping fluctuating a lot. My internet connection is fine.
I want to flash the best custom rom available to play PUBG smoothly.
Can anybody suggest me a good ROM & step by step guide to flash it?
Thanks in advance.
I am interested a bit in this myself. Personally I am running Pixel Experience 9.0 and it is very stable, only thing people report not working is hotspot and proximity sensor working if it feels like it - for me it was always like this though, I always talk on loud speaker anyway.
I do not game that much, the phone is a few generations old, so you'd be better of buying Poco F1, Mi 8 or 9 in my opinion if you want good performance.
Pie Crdroid works very good
wjelo said:
I am interested a bit in this myself. Personally I am running Pixel Experience 9.0 and it is very stable, only thing people report not working is hotspot and proximity sensor working if it feels like it - for me it was always like this though, I always talk on loud speaker anyway.
I do not game that much, the phone is a few generations old, so you'd be better of buying Poco F1, Mi 8 or 9 in my opinion if you want good performance.
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Yes. I tried almost all ROMs. Gaming performance is still same.
Then I guess it is the phone poorly disposing of heat, quite well known issue for this model, ROMs won't fix hardware.
Anyway, back to main topic, I've daylied official Lineage 16.0 since it was released a couple weeks ago. Personally I am experiencing quite many bugs, like white notifications in dark mode and audio problems. YMMV, but personally I'll be going back to Pixel Experience once April update is up, as I was having zero problems with it.
Your English is fine. Try this ROM.
https://c.mi.com/oc/miuidownload/detail?device=1700334
arefin1989 said:
Hi,
Sorry for my english.
I'm having overheating issues after last MIUI update.
I can't play PUBG because of lags. My ping fluctuating a lot. My internet connection is fine.
I want to flash the best custom rom available to play PUBG smoothly.
Can anybody suggest me a good ROM & step by step guide to flash it?
Thanks in advance.
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I've been using the HAVOC OS...
So far it is the fastest rom in terms of gaming...
Expect that your Mix will not lag in any games but at the cost of overheating...
talon1812 said:
Your English is fine. Try this ROM.
https://c.mi.com/oc/miuidownload/detail?device=1700334
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mi mix 2?
Original Mi Mix Rom
https://c.mi.com/oc/miuidownload/detail?device=1700317
This is the original Mi Mix.
rickymanx said:
mi mix 2?
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Overheat problem is the same on all phone and computer. It has (almost) nothing to do with the ROM. The main factor is the voltage. On all my PCs I undervolt CPU and fine tune the clock speed of GPU (so the core voltage also stay in the low range). It works the same on a phone. Check undervolting guide for phone.
When the phone overheat, it lower its clock speed and voltage to allow heat dissipation.
You might want to find a good cooling fan for you phone if you're gaming.
I recommend using kernel adiutor 0.9.11.1 available on apkmirror with root access to configure CPU frequency. I did this on lineageos 16.1 with my Xiaomi Mi Mix and it's working much better than ever. I configured the frequencies and thermal protection, also the governors for BIG and LITTLE cores.
Before doing that I had huge performance and heating problems.
i bought this phone last week, i am not satisfied with this phone, it gets hot when browsing, lag when playing games(because of the unstable high speed clock), i checked using the aida64 app and the big cores clock speed easily reach 2.2 ghz speed. that was unnecessary, even after turning the battery saver mode, the cores still easily touch 2.2 ghz. i already discussed this on the indonesian mi community, but then i got bullied, people saying it was my fault, not the phone. but there was many thread that complains about lag when playing games and bad battery life. i supose that was because the bad management of cpu cores.
note : i bought this phone in indonesia, with TAM (official) warranty
my rom is currently on the 10.3.6.0(PFGMIXM)
3+32GB model.
Rifaldi34 said:
i bought this phone last week, i am not satisfied with this phone, it gets hot when browsing, lag when playing games(because of the unstable high speed clock), i checked using the aida64 app and the big cores clock speed easily reach 2.2 ghz speed. that was unnecessary, even after turning the battery saver mode, the cores still easily touch 2.2 ghz. i already discussed this on the indonesian mi community, but then i got bullied, people saying it was my fault, not the phone. but there was many thread that complains about lag when playing games and bad battery life. i supose that was because the bad management of cpu cores.
note : i bought this phone in indonesia, with TAM (official) warranty
my rom is currently on the 10.3.6.0(PFGMIXM)
3+32GB model.
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It's very commom for any Snapdragon device to reach top clock speed when in use, download CPU-z and do a little scrolling to see that.
The lag in games you're getting is most probably because of the 3GB RAM of your variant not the CPU as SD660 can handle most mobile games with ease.
About battery life, how much SOT are you getting? RN7 should handle at least 6hrs with some heavy gaming included.
And about temperature, how much degrees is your device peaking at? Anything below 38ºC should be fine.
And lastly, about mi community......well, most people there look like VERY inexperienced users, i wouldn't take them as a parameter to prove your point.
Gonime said:
It's very commom for any Snapdragon device to reach top clock speed when in use, download CPU-z and do a little scrolling to see that.
The lag in games you're getting is most probably because of the 3GB RAM of your variant not the CPU as SD660 can handle most mobile games with ease.
About battery life, how much SOT are you getting? RN7 should handle at least 6hrs with some heavy gaming included.
And about temperature, how much degrees is your device peaking at? Anything below 38ºC should be fine.
And lastly, about mi community......well, most people there look like VERY inexperienced users, i wouldn't take them as a parameter to prove your point.
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3gb of ram is good enough for gaming unless ur playing a heavy game while on youtube and facebook at the same time. the problem with this phone is the aggressive thermal throttling, once the phone reaches 40°c the phone becomes noticeably slower.
my advice to OP is unlock ur bootloader flash some custom rom, custom kernel and root ur device until you find the performance/battery ur looking for.
aron11195 said:
3gb of ram is good enough for gaming unless ur playing a heavy game while on youtube and facebook at the same time. the problem with this phone is the aggressive thermal throttling, once the phone reaches 40°c the phone becomes noticeably slower.
my advice to OP is unlock ur bootloader flash some custom rom, custom kernel and root ur device until you find the performance/battery ur looking for.
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3GB of RAM has not been fine for some time now, there is a lot of games you wouldn't be able to multitask with any other application with only 3GB.
Few examples: TES Blades, Fortnite, PS2 emulation.
Also what are you doing to reach 40° on your device? As for mine never passed 38° and I live in a hot country(Brazil).
I Agree with installing a custom Kernel to improve your performance overall, but right know the best optimized ROM is still MIUI as many threads here suggest.
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3GB of RAM has not been fine for some time now, there is a lot of games you wouldn't be able to multitask with any other application with only 3GB.
Few examples: TES Blades, Fortnite, PS2 emulation.
Also what are you doing to reach 40° on your device? As for mine never passed 38° and I live in a hot country(Brazil).
I Agree with installing a custom Kernel to improve your performance overall, but right know the best optimized ROM is still MIUI as many threads here suggest.
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thats my point, 3gb is enough for games as long as you dont multi task. and this phone is mid range.
im in Philippines, room temperature here is about 37° heavy games like pubg makes my phone temperature skyrocket reaching up to 45° especially with thermal mod.
btw MIUI has the worst ram management for this phone. its closing background apps like no tomorrow, but on any custom rom its actually quite decent.
Rifaldi34 said:
i bought this phone last week, i am not satisfied with this phone, it gets hot when browsing, lag when playing games(because of the unstable high speed clock), i checked using the aida64 app and the big cores clock speed easily reach 2.2 ghz speed. that was unnecessary, even after turning the battery saver mode, the cores still easily touch 2.2 ghz. i already discussed this on the indonesian mi community, but then i got bullied, people saying it was my fault, not the phone. but there was many thread that complains about lag when playing games and bad battery life. i supose that was because the bad management of cpu cores.
note : i bought this phone in indonesia, with TAM (official) warranty
my rom is currently on the 10.3.6.0(PFGMIXM)
3+32GB model.
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Im on the same boat with you bro.
Just Dont bother the hardcore mi fans, especially indonesian mi fans, i know they are jackass sometimes (well Not all of them)
Yes the firmware is really not optimize, battery usage is really inconsistent (typical not optimize firmware)
All we can do is wait for the new OTA.
Strangely the PRO variant get more updated frequently (check official mi website)
But for us indonesian, we are stuck with NON PRO version if we want to use Official waranty hardware.
Good luck
here's how one maximizes their chipsets potential.
1. unlock thy bootloader
2. install custom ROM and kernel
3. ...
4. profit
Gonime said:
It's very commom for any Snapdragon device to reach top clock speed when in use, download CPU-z and do a little scrolling to see that.
The lag in games you're getting is most probably because of the 3GB RAM of your variant not the CPU as SD660 can handle most mobile games with ease.
About battery life, how much SOT are you getting? RN7 should handle at least 6hrs with some heavy gaming included.
And about temperature, how much degrees is your device peaking at? Anything below 38ºC should be fine.
And lastly, about mi community......well, most people there look like VERY inexperienced users, i wouldn't take them as a parameter to prove your point.
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aron11195 said:
3gb of ram is good enough for gaming unless ur playing a heavy game while on youtube and facebook at the same time. the problem with this phone is the aggressive thermal throttling, once the phone reaches 40°c the phone becomes noticeably slower.
my advice to OP is unlock ur bootloader flash some custom rom, custom kernel and root ur device until you find the performance/battery ur looking for.
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Gonime said:
3GB of RAM has not been fine for some time now, there is a lot of games you wouldn't be able to multitask with any other application with only 3GB.
Few examples: TES Blades, Fortnite, PS2 emulation.
Also what are you doing to reach 40° on your device? As for mine never passed 38° and I live in a hot country(Brazil).
I Agree with installing a custom Kernel to improve your performance overall, but right know the best optimized ROM is still MIUI as many threads here suggest.
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aron11195 said:
thats my point, 3gb is enough for games as long as you dont multi task. and this phone is mid range.
im in Philippines, room temperature here is about 37° heavy games like pubg makes my phone temperature skyrocket reaching up to 45° especially with thermal mod.
btw MIUI has the worst ram management for this phone. its closing background apps like no tomorrow, but on any custom rom its actually quite decent.
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sampit76 said:
Im on the same boat with you bro.
Just Dont bother the hardcore mi fans, especially indonesian mi fans, i know they are jackass sometimes (well Not all of them)
Yes the firmware is really not optimize, battery usage is really inconsistent (typical not optimize firmware)
All we can do is wait for the new OTA.
Strangely the PRO variant get more updated frequently (check official mi website)
But for us indonesian, we are stuck with NON PRO version if we want to use Official waranty hardware.
Good luck
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vexa said:
here's how one maximizes their chipsets potential.
1. unlock thy bootloader
2. install custom ROM and kernel
3. ...
4. profit
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Thanks for all your reply, i apreciated it. probably i will wait until miui 11 released, and if the phone still gets hot i will install custom rom and use EX kernel manager to disable input boost and limit the cpu.
for bullying in the mi community, i guess its just troll account ? or the xiaomi guy ? every thread about battery gets bullied by those person only.
5. Find out many bugs and instabilities
6. Start realizing custom roms are not mature yet
7. Go back to stock ROM ?
kennyk09 said:
5. Find out many bugs and instabilities
6. Start realizing custom roms are not mature yet
7. Go back to stock ROM
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not true .. i've been using PE (and revolutionX) and Havoc since mai.
After being on EvolutionX for more than a month, i switched to MIUI EU (coz i missed it) but then went back to trying havoc .. 2 weeks now ZERO problems no heat/lag whatsoever
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5. Find out many bugs and instabilities
6. Start realizing custom roms are not mature yet
7. Go back to stock ROM
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ever try miui.eu or masik?
these are very stable, miui-based custom ROMs with zero bloatware and better RAM management.
still a better ROM for people who want better performance / battery life on their xiaomi devices, but too afraid to live on the edge with AOSP ROMs.
AFAIK, that's called thermal-throttle/ing. When RN7 reach its peak performance and certain heat, to prevent overheat normally our device will slowing down its performance and it caused lags and fps drop for sure
I also encounter this problem when playing pubg even with smooth-ultra setting
Rayquaza said:
AFAIK, that's called thermal-throttle/ing. When RN7 reach its peak performance and certain heat, to prevent overheat normally our device will slowing down its performance and it caused lags and fps drop for sure
I also encounter this problem when playing pubg even with smooth-ultra setting
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and thermal throttling can be disabled by using a certain magisk module. although not recommended when ur playing for long period of time. i play max 3hrs highest temperature reached 45°c.
kennyk09 said:
5. Find out many bugs and instabilities
6. Start realizing custom roms are not mature yet
7. Go back to stock ROM
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It happened to me, custom roms aren't good for gaming then switched back to MIUI, when I play phone gets 45 C max, my battery gives 6 hours of straight online gaming, I'm on MIUI Global 10.3.5, Evira kernel 3.8.
:good:
660 wasn't designed for battery efficiency. Still waiting for Franco Kernel, it might fix the issue. My Redmi Note 4x can last up to 10hrs SOT while my Redmi Note 7 can only reach 5hrs even with custom ROM+greenify installed.
The ****tiest phone i ever have, my another phone with 636 even perform better than this. Too many frame drop
rifrish said:
The ****tiest phone i ever have, my another phone with 636 even perform better than this. Too many frame drop
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lol get a good pc if you want to game with high fps.
just bought this phone since my Nexus 6p's battery died and it's really good. im constantly getting up to 10h+ of sot with normal usage.
nardow said:
lol get a good pc if you want to game with high fps.
just bought this phone since my Nexus 6p's battery died and it's really good. im constantly getting up to 10h+ of sot with normal usage.
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Nope. With moderate use I barely get 7, mostly 6. I got this sot by using apps like line, wa, instagram, youtube, browsing, downloading tons of file and one match playing pubg and pes.
I reach 8 to 9 hours sot only if i using wifi and playing videos constantly, minimum social media and no gaming.
Ofc people used their phone different each others. But, im sure they are having same battery drain. People talk about this so many times and everywhere. Ur case having 10+ sot like only happen 1:10 of all lavender users.
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rifrish said:
The ****tiest phone i ever have, my another phone with 636 even perform better than this. Too many frame drop
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Its true continuous gaming on this phone (with stock miui) is bad. You will get smooth gameplay only in short term, like a one match pubg. Then it will start to lag because of heat. We need to keep the phone temp as cool as possible when used for gaming to get less frame drop. Example, playing close to a fan or inside a room with air conditioner on.
Rayquaza said:
AFAIK, that's called thermal-throttle/ing. When RN7 reach its peak performance and certain heat, to prevent overheat normally our device will slowing down its performance and it caused lags and fps drop for sure
I also encounter this problem when playing pubg even with smooth-ultra setting
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Yes, thermal throttle where the main reason. Its limit cpu whenever temp -read by system- reach 43/44 degree. A temp read by system are mostly not indicate the real temp. Besides, we have clockspeed max at 2.2Ghz, making our phone faster to heats up easilly. Thats why thermal throttling the cpu in such early time. (Its ruins gameplay, isnt it? :v)
If we look inside thermal-engine.conf on lavender, it use two sensor for detection and two step for throttling the cpu. First step it will limit clockspeed by 1,5Ghz and 1,9Ghz. Second step it will limit clockspeed by 1,1Ghz and 1,4Ghz. Because the temp gap between these step are only 1°, so mostly thermal-engine will going to limit clockspeed by 1,1Ghz and 1,4Ghz. Imagine play pubg with that clockspeed, lags and frame drop will occurs oftenly.
I've seen Mi 8 Lite with the same chipset playing pubg continously without any frame drop. I took its thermal-engine configuration and compare them with lavender.
Interestingly there are specified profiles for gaming and pubg are missing on lavender. Thus, both thermal-engine are really different. A same chipset should having same thermal at least. But, this show us that lavender thermal thingy are not being optimized yet while mi8 lite does already.
kennyk09 said:
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6. Start realizing custom roms are not mature yet
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Lol. Agreed XD
Im gonna Re-Unlock my bootloader for the third times and use custom rom when they fix Hals. Till then i stay on miui hoping miuidev did an improvisation with next update.