I see there are ROM's in the T-Mobile Development section. Does that mean the Note 7 has Root and Recovery just like the Note 5 ?
You can root if you have update to the new firmware and no there isnt no recovery like on the s7 and s7 edge
Zorachus said:
I see there are ROM's in the T-Mobile Development section. Does that mean the Note 7 has Root and Recovery just like the Note 5 ?
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Only if you didn't take the green battery update.
Yes there is root however it's not for the faint hearted, it's pretty complex, if you are not comfortable with cmd and adb don't try it.
charlieb620 said:
Only if you didn't take the green battery update.
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The P14 update?
Yes, the PI4 OTA update. If you took that, a fuse was burned and you can't go back to root. I'm on PI4, but I got there after rooting and never took the OTA update.
SkyPhone said:
Yes, the PI4 OTA update. If you took that, a fuse was burned and you can't go back to root. I'm on PI4, but I got there after rooting and never took the OTA update.
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I got it new in the box already loaded.
If some developers can do reverse engineering, they can extract the security key out and embed it into custom recovery and kernel.
Moreover, SE Linux policy has to be patched if necessary.
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Hello
I bought the Note 4 from T-mobile and i'm running stock rom.
I just root the device with chainfire tool and I'm thinking to change the recovery from stock to TWRP.
I'm wondering if by doing that i will lose the ability to get OTA updates from Samsung / T-mobile.
I did a search on the forum for this question, most of the threads are a year old so i just want to make sure that the answer is the same for our new device.
Please answer just if you know for sure, Thanks
re: twrp
NirAndroid said:
Hello
I bought the Note 4 from T-mobile and i'm running stock rom.
I just root the device with chainfire tool and I'm thinking to change the recovery from stock to TWRP.
I'm wondering if by doing that i will lose the ability to get OTA updates from Samsung / T-mobile.
I did a search on the forum for this question, most of the threads are a year old so i just want to make sure that the answer is the same for our new device.
Please answer just if you know for sure, Thanks
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You already lost the ability to receive OTA updates by rooting
the phone. If you want to get OTA updates the phone cannot be
rooted or have custom recovery like twrp.
The whole and main idea behind having twrp custom recovery
is to be able to flash custom zip file roms and mods.
With stock rooted firmware you will not be able to successfully
flash any custom roms or mods.
If you do flash any custom zip file roms using twrp
you will also loose the ability to have OTA updates.
Good luck!
First, thank you for the quick reply,
Second, are you sure about it? every place I looked people saying that root doesn't have anything to do with OTA updates.
It also say that I can put TWRP or CWM and still getting the OTA updates, all I have to do for this to happen is to be with stock rom (which is what i'm currently using)
Misterjunky said:
You already lost the ability to receive OTA updates by rooting
the phone. If you want to get OTA updates the phone cannot be
rooted or have custom recovery like twrp.
The whole and main idea behind having twrp custom recovery
is to be able to flash custom zip file roms and mods.
With stock rooted firmware you will not be able to successfully
flash any custom roms or mods.
If you do flash any custom zip file roms using twrp
you will also loose the ability to have OTA updates too.
Good luck!
Good luck!
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NirAndroid said:
First, thank you for the quick reply,
Second, are you sure about it? every place I looked people saying that root doesn't have anything to do with OTA updates.
It also say that I can put TWRP or CWM and still getting the OTA updates, all I have to do for this to happen is to be with stock rom (which is what i'm currently using)
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If you check the OTA option and find an update, the updater
will tell you that it cannot install the update due to an unofficial
operating system or something to that effect, I forgot the exact
wording of the message. (if you're rooted)
There is a way to unroot the phone but in my opinion it's just not worth the
hassle to re-root it because as I said being rooted and having twrp recovery
will not help you much at all since you will not be able to flash any custom
roms or mods with out loosing your official stock status which needs to
remain intact in order to be able to get future ota updates.
Good luck!
NirAndroid said:
First, thank you for the quick reply,
Second, are you sure about it? every place I looked people saying that root doesn't have anything to do with OTA updates.
It also say that I can put TWRP or CWM and still getting the OTA updates, all I have to do for this to happen is to be with stock rom (which is what i'm currently using)
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Mr. Junky is correct. But why would you even want an OTA update? Even if you could it would unroot your device. If there is/was a software update it will be on here or SamMobile about the same time & you can install it manually.
NirAndroid said:
First, thank you for the quick reply,
Second, are you sure about it? every place I looked people saying that root doesn't have anything to do with OTA updates.
It also say that I can put TWRP or CWM and still getting the OTA updates, all I have to do for this to happen is to be with stock rom (which is what i'm currently using)
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You have only 2 posts on XDA and you are second guessing our replies on your question? Either believe what we answer or stick to google and don't waste our time.
NirAndroid said:
Hello
I bought the Note 4 from T-mobile and i'm running stock rom.
I just root the device with chainfire tool and I'm thinking to change the recovery from stock to TWRP.
I'm wondering if by doing that i will lose the ability to get OTA updates from Samsung / T-mobile.
I did a search on the forum for this question, most of the threads are a year old so i just want to make sure that the answer is the same for our new device.
Please answer just if you know for sure, Thanks
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Well OTA is out of the question. But I was successful with the last update by using Kies 3.
I just had to root again afterwards using the same method.
Brava27 said:
You have only 2 posts on XDA and you are second guessing our replies on your question? Either believe what we answer or stick to google and don't waste our time.
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No body asked you to spend your time in my thread, you are more then welcome to move a long because its clearly that you have nothing smart to say beside rasing your post counter.
For all the others, thank you for your help.
The reason that i would like to keep the OTA updates is because i love the stock rom and i dont want to check every timr on the internet if a new build has came out.
its much more easier with OTA too keep being update. But i guess my needs to be root are biger and i will need to flash the updates manually.
Once again, thank you.
I get Ota updates on mine rooted.Only thing u can't install if u have twrp will put u in a boot loop it needs the stock android recovery.You have to wait for a rom with the update
...........As long as I can remember, you root a device you lose carrier OTA updates. ..why is this so difficult for people to comprehend o_0 every new device every year it's the same questions. .......you have the capacity to root......yet you question if you'll lose OTA -_-, & most root methods have disclaimers saying you lose this x we are not responsible for brick etc. ........
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On the G900A shipped from AT&T we have a locked bootloader, and there is no known existing workaround to unlock it correct?
So given that, root was achieved , then safestrap was developed so we can currently flash roms that use the stock bootloader and kernel image, however we can customize the OS as long as the kernel and loader are untouched.
If the bootloader stays locked, what is known regarding safestrap and lollipop?
Can we still rollback the stock kernel to achieve root, then roll forward and keep it?
If that is the case, then when the stock AT&T lollipop is released, some level of ROM development can occur?
I am confused somewhat by all the discussions surrounding this, and didn't see any threads to discuss it specifically.
wmunn said:
On the G900A shipped from AT&T we have a locked bootloader, and there is no known existing workaround to unlock it correct?
So given that, root was achieved , then safestrap was developed so we can currently flash roms that use the stock bootloader and kernel image, however we can customize the OS as long as the kernel and loader are untouched.
If the bootloader stays locked, what is known regarding safestrap and lollipop?
Can we still rollback the stock kernel to achieve root, then roll forward and keep it?
If that is the case, then when the stock AT&T lollipop is released, some level of ROM development can occur?
I am confused somewhat by all the discussions surrounding this, and didn't see any threads to discuss it specifically.
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No, if you update to lollipop then your ability to have a rooted phone will be lost. The bootloader hasnt changed since the phone was released which is the reason we have been able to rollback the rom. This was a loophole in the original firmware of the s5. When lollipop comes out then it will be a completely different bootloader and will be locked and you will not be able to roll back to kk bootloader. The loophole for this has been patched and there probably wont be another way to root the phone after lollipop considering the guy that found the loophole is now working for googles security team. Bottom line is if you want root then you cant have lollipop.
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No, if you update to lollipop then your ability to have a rooted phone will be lost. The bootloader hasnt changed since the phone was released which is the reason we have been able to rollback the rom. This was a loophole in the original firmware of the s5. When lollipop comes out then it will be a completely different bootloader and will be locked and you will not be able to roll back to kk bootloader. The loophole for this has been patched and there probably wont be another way to root the phone after lollipop considering the guy that found the loophole is now working for googles security team. Bottom line is if you want root then you cant have lollipop.
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How does this affect our device when it gets the lollipop update?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/supersu-beta-lollipop-root-stock-kernel/
wmunn said:
On the G900A shipped from AT&T we have a locked bootloader, and there is no known existing workaround to unlock it correct?
So given that, root was achieved , then safestrap was developed so we can currently flash roms that use the stock bootloader and kernel image, however we can customize the OS as long as the kernel and loader are untouched.
If the bootloader stays locked, what is known regarding safestrap and lollipop?
Can we still rollback the stock kernel to achieve root, then roll forward and keep it?
If that is the case, then when the stock AT&T lollipop is released, some level of ROM development can occur?
I am confused somewhat by all the discussions surrounding this, and didn't see any threads to discuss it specifically.
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Thanks to chainfire the chances of updating to 5.0 while keeping root seems more doable at this point.
However, based on recent samsung updates for other devices, safestrap may stop functioning after the update as it continues its slow death.
Once again, if having root access is important to you, do no not take the 5.0 update when released until some of us have a chance to evaluate it.
Since I am running dynamic Kat on stock slot right now, I should be safe from updates for now right?
Waiting to see what happens with all this. I did back up my stock rom to an SD card, so I can restore and unroot etc... to get an update if I choose to later.
muniz_ri said:
Thanks to chainfire the chances of updating to 5.0 while keeping root seems more doable at this point.
However, based on recent samsung updates for other devices, safestrap may stop functioning after the update as it continues its slow death.
Once again, if having root access is important to you, do no not take the 5.0 update when released until some of us have a chance to evaluate it.
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was looking for a post like this. well maybe we might get 5.1 in the next few weeks or sooner so i am sure you will give it a try and a good look and hopefully you will have success in attaining root and a good SS. seems like u da man for this...:good::good:
as for 5.1 or a custom rom...well whose to say what that will bring...
will be waiting to see what happens. will check back here when it comes out. i watch for it everyday and as usual, thank you for all your great work!
miller1821 said:
No, if you update to lollipop then your ability to have a rooted phone will be lost. The bootloader hasnt changed since the phone was released which is the reason we have been able to rollback the rom. This was a loophole in the original firmware of the s5. When lollipop comes out then it will be a completely different bootloader and will be locked and you will not be able to roll back to kk bootloader. The loophole for this has been patched and there probably wont be another way to root the phone after lollipop considering the guy that found the loophole is now working for googles security team. Bottom line is if you want root then you cant have lollipop.
Sent from my SM-G900A using XDA Free mobile app
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Not necessarily, just because (if) the S5 gets 5.0 does not mean the ability to root will be lost just go check out the Verizon S5 forums you'll see they have a method for rooting with 5.0 that in theory should work for us as well. again it is recomended to remain on a 4.4.x rom until this has been fully evaluated.
wmunn said:
On the G900A shipped from AT&T we have a locked bootloader, and there is no known existing workaround to unlock it correct?
So given that, root was achieved , then safestrap was developed so we can currently flash roms that use the stock bootloader and kernel image, however we can customize the OS as long as the kernel and loader are untouched.
If the bootloader stays locked, what is known regarding safestrap and lollipop?
Can we still rollback the stock kernel to achieve root, then roll forward and keep it?
If that is the case, then when the stock AT&T lollipop is released, some level of ROM development can occur?
I am confused somewhat by all the discussions surrounding this, and didn't see any threads to discuss it specifically.
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My suggestion would be not to take any updates until the root capabilities have been evaluated.
As always, research goes a long way towards alleviating fears and stopping panic attacks before they happen. be patient there are great devs here give them time to work
Well, I stopped using the S5 and switched to a oneplus one, happily running CM12 nightlies now
the att gs5 doesn't seem like it's getting any updates..
wmunn said:
Well, I stopped using the S5 and switched to a oneplus one, happily running CM12 nightlies now
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How are you liking it? I'm seriously thinking about doing the same thing.
I have a coworker that just got the Lollipop update for his Note 3 so that means it will be coming to the S5 very soon!
There is a pre-rooted lollipop update on droid views "http://www.droidviews.com/install-rooted-lollipop-on-att-galaxy-s5-sm-g900a/" . I have updated already and it runs smoothly. The only thing is after you run the update it can take anywhere from 5 to 20 minutes to reboot so just hang tight.
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There is a pre-rooted lollipop update on droid views "http://www.droidviews.com/install-rooted-lollipop-on-att-galaxy-s5-sm-g900a/" . I have updated already and it runs smoothly. The only thing is after you run the update it can take anywhere from 5 to 20 minutes to reboot so just hang tight.
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I used that method as well. Sure, it worked for me, but I came from Dynamic Kat, a well debloated stock rom. Due to this, after installing the update using this method, the built-in apps restore function could not complete due to having all of the useless bloatware back, taking up the extra space I was free to use in Dynamic Kat. Even removing the apps that are safe to remove via Titanium Backup doesn't help because the space is reserved for them. I've also already moved every app that it will allow to move to SD card. I've removed unneeded apps. I've gone through my internal storage to remove any unneeded files.
I've removed most of the apps listed here
This doesn't give me the Bluetooth tether that I used to us for my Gear 1(Running Null Rom). I'd look for an app to cover this but... I can't install anything because I've got no space to do so... I hope a good debloat method comes along soon. I still have root, so I'm hopeful.
Yea, bloatware is ridiculous for this phone. Have you tried the Alliance rom, that is what I run and it's not to bad for bloatware but I have only managed to get 5.6 running. Going to try version 8 today sometime. If you like to customize that is an awesome rom.
Hi folks, new to the S5 forums on here as I just upgraded from my trusty S3 on AT&T. I'm still on the stock 4.4.2 firmware, NG3 build, and I'm wondering if I should just root from here using TowelRoot method or take the 4.4.4 OTA and root from there.
Root your 4.4.2, then use the update while saving root to lollipop and skip 4.4.4 all together.
SoCalHTCFuze said:
Root your 4.4.2, then use the update while saving root to lollipop and skip 4.4.4 all together.
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I tried to root using TowelRoot but it said device not supported. I'll do some research though. Havent even had the phone 5 hours yet.
MetalHead66 said:
I tried to root using TowelRoot but it said device not supported. I'll do some research though. Havent even had the phone 5 hours yet.
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You gotta downgrade theres a post on here just type it in the search bar. Pretty easy process
Yes. Follow the 4.4.2 how to root thread, it says that bit still works.
OK thanks a bunch. Getting ready to do that now.
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Well that was quite easy and I'm a happy camper now! Just had to flash nd3 kernel with odin in order for TR to work then flash my ng3 kernel. So nice to be able to use TiBu. Helium wouldnt install all my apps. Now I can start freezing and uninstalling all the bloatware!
Hi I have a problem from going to 5.1.1 from 5.0.2. I have tried clearing cache,
I have 9gb free,
made sure everything is up to date and enabled,
and have factory reset my phone.
Still doesn't work.
Says something about "dm- verity verification fail" if I go into that developer screen when you hold power, home and volume up right after it tries to update again while loading.
Never has been rooted and have had it for a few months now. Also I was wondering if I could root this phone and just manually update it with custom firmware and forget about Ota updates anymore and be able to run the latest and greatest firmware. I have read in a few places that the new bootloader is un-cracked though and can't be rooted? Thanks.
DaMonsterMonster said:
Hi I have a problem from going to 5.1.1 from 5.0.2. I have tried clearing cache,
I have 9gb free,
made sure everything is up to date and enabled,
and have factory reset my phone.
Still doesn't work.
Says something about "dm- verity verification fail" if I go into that developer screen when you hold power, home and volume up right after it tries to update again while loading.
Never has been rooted and have had it for a few months now. Also I was wondering if I could root this phone and just manually update it with custom firmware and forget about Ota updates anymore and be able to run the latest and greatest firmware. I have read in a few places that the new bootloader is un-cracked though and can't be rooted? Thanks.
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Greetings,
Thank you for using XDA Assist. To get you the specific help you need, I'm going to move this thread to your device's Q&A forum. Good luck!
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Greetings,
Thank you for using XDA Assist. To get you the specific help you need, I'm going to move this thread to your device's Q&A forum. Good luck!
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Awesome thanks!
Hi there! Have you tried options 1 & 2 in this HOWTO guide?
DaMonsterMonster said:
Awesome thanks!
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lirex said:
Hi there! Have you tried options 1 & 2 in this HOWTO guide?
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#1 didn't show any update but I did go to the samsung kiosk in best buy. He said he has had this problem with phones on other carriers too and he flashed it! Still would like to know if anyone is working on rooting these...
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#1 didn't show any update but I did go to the samsung kiosk in best buy. He said he has had this problem with phones on other carriers too and he flashed it! Still would like to know if anyone is working on rooting these...
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Would love a root, but if the rumors are true, that a new S7 Active version will be announced in Jan and released in Mar, and the new S7 Active (still likely only an AT&T exclusive...) has noticeable improvements, perhaps a root solution for this phone may fall to the way-side.
I'm on the fence about getting an S6, kinda waiting to see if I can get any confirmed specs for a new S7.
Argh... tough...
Anyone?
thegameksk said:
Anyone?
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According to Slim, root is broken on the new update. They also changed the bootloader so you can't downgrade. They apparently want everyone to update to the new software.
fogame said:
According to Slim, root is broken on the new update. They also changed the bootloader so you can't downgrade. They apparently want everyone to update to the new software.
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Of course they do... they don't want folks rooting... Sammy knows what's up... if they were decent they'd give us a bootloader unlock to make up for rushing the devices to market to beat Apple on the release date (which is already cracked smh) and catch a few more percent of market share...
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I was able to root. You just can not take the new update, it will prevent root and will not be able to revert back to the old firmware..
galaxyuser88 said:
I was able to root. You just can not take the new update, it will prevent root and will not be able to revert back to the old firmware..
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For clarification,you were able to root a replacement note 7?
I read,somewhere, that the update starts when you power it on the first time. I am hoping to root mine immediately to avoid the update.
Mean Sixteen said:
For clarification,you were able to root a replacement note 7?
I read,somewhere, that the update starts when you power it on the first time. I am hoping to root mine immediately to avoid the update.
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Yes you are correct. The update starts to download when you power up the phone, but you can pause the download or postpone it for later install. This is what happened on my phone.
galaxyuser88 said:
Yes you are correct. The update starts to download when you power up the phone, but you can pause the download or postpone it for later install. This is what happened on my phone.
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Awesome thank you for clarifying.
Once I saw there was complete root with volte I went straight to download mode and did the process. Glad I didn't take the update because it blocks root and the sprint engineer rom.
Do not update AT&T S7 Edge to G935AUCS4API2 you will loose ability to flash the G935U boot and all lower firmware versions so no downgrading. You will be temporarily soft bricked I managed to obtain the G935AUCS4API2 files will be uploading them and making a new thread soon with files. These files return it to stock, but once back at G935AUCS4API2 you can not downgrade or flash boot tar from g935u or you are still stuck in soft brick. For anyone that upgrades to G935AUCS4API2 you are now stuck on it and future updates and can no longer root ever eng boot now patched or something with G935AUCS4API2.
Uploading via GDrive 1 hour left for the files to upload. If anyone is stuck and waiting, please be patient.
Damn son... bad news. Glad I'm on 935U...
Are we able to disable OTA's at all by the way?...
I think I may have the same problem. All stock firmware here is a dismatch.
twoxa said:
Damn son... bad news. Glad I'm on 935U...
Are we able to disable OTA's at all by the way?...
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I used package disabler to kill ota.
Root is still obtainable on PI2 but can not downgrade or flash U -- uploading PI2 in a few minutes
rooted with no problems
And the ability to flash U fw is back
twoxa said:
Damn son... bad news. Glad I'm on 935U...
Are we able to disable OTA's at all by the way?...
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Package disabler pro works.
Will the new AT&T S7 Edge phones ship with this update?
junear said:
Will the new AT&T S7 Edge phones ship with this update?
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Maybe? I'm pretty sure nobody here will know what the phones will ship with and when
Mine shipped with it. Ugghhh.
crazeebiker said:
rooted with no problems
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Same here, I rooted with no problem.
jamminotter said:
Same here, I rooted with no problem.
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what instructions did you use
mossburg44 said:
what instructions did you use
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/how-to/how-to-root-s7-edge-t3410470
Grab the zip for the complete package at that link, then the simplified instructions are below. I really didn't expect it to be this simple.
Root all S7 QC models
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1. Flash Samsung_G930x_Root_Boot_QC.TAR or Samsung_G935x_Root_Boot_QC.TAR in the AP tab using Odin_v3.12.3_Patched_SHA256
2. Enable ADB Debugging in Developer Options
3. Run Root.BAT
4. Done!!
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