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I've been a Nexus whore since I bought the Nexus S on release day at Best Buy, having owned every Nexus device since then, with the exception of the Galaxy Nexus. I've generally had great luck buying the devices through Google Play Store, and also selling the devices when I buy the newer model.
I've had the N5 since yesterday, and it has been a joy to use. Great size, awesome screen, comfortable design, and super fast/smooth. Thanks to the wonderful developer community, the bootloader was unlocked and the device rooted within 10 minutes after receiving the UPS package. Within another 30 minutes, all apps were installed and settings updated, followed by a NAND backup. Fortunately, my phone is not plagued by some of the hardware issues I've been reading about (loose/noisy power button, etc.).
My only gripe so far is that inability to customize the stock launcher - the only thing I really would like to do is change the numbers of rows and columns of icons (on both the home screen and app drawer), but that seems not possible. If I use a third-party launcher, I lose the "OK Google" functionality, which I've been enjoying so far.
Also, I like the Spigen Slim Armor case I got - good quality and fit/feel.
ddb540 said:
I've been a Nexus whore since I bought the Nexus S on release day at Best Buy, having owned every Nexus device since then, with the exception of the Galaxy Nexus. I've generally had great luck buying the devices through Google Play Store, and also selling the devices when I buy the newer model.
I've had the N5 since yesterday, and it has been a joy to use. Great size, awesome screen, comfortable design, and super fast/smooth. Thanks to the wonderful developer community, the bootloader was unlocked and the device rooted within 10 minutes after receiving the UPS package. Within another 30 minutes, all apps were installed and settings updated, followed by a NAND backup. Fortunately, my phone is not plagued by some of the hardware issues I've been reading about (loose/noisy power button, etc.).
My only gripe so far is that inability to customize the stock launcher - the only thing I really would like to do is change the numbers of rows and columns of icons (on both the home screen and app drawer), but that seems not possible. If I use a third-party launcher, I lose the "OK Google" functionality, which I've been enjoying so far.
Also, I like the Spigen Slim Armor case I got - good quality and fit/feel.
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Why would you lose the OK Google feature? A launcher doesn't affect any functionality in the phone.
I have Apex Launcher and it works just fine. The only drawback right now to a launcher is that they haven't updated it to have the clear background of the navigation buttons down below and the notification bar up top. Otherwise it works perfectly. I'm sure the developer will update that soon though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2514166
Please use the existing thread linked above
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Does anyone have both phones and would be willing to share their experience with them?
I am trying to decide which one to buy and would really appreciate the view of someone who has/had both devices.
As I already read a lot and made up my mind about their power/speed/camera/screen I'd instead like to know more about more normal usage/features.
For example:
- battery life
- outdoor screen readability/visibility in very sunny condition
- fingerprint sensor (also about pros/cons in being positioned on the back/front of the phone)
- particular software/hardware features that may be useful but missing on one of the two devices
- issues/problems/avaliaibility with root, custorm roms, warranty, etc
Thanks in advance
tacchan23 said:
Does anyone have both phones and would be willing to share their experience with them?
I am trying to decide which one to buy and would really appreciate the view of someone who has/had both devices.
As I already read a lot and made up my mind about their power/speed/camera/screen I'd instead like to know more about more normal usage/features.
For example:
- battery life
- fingerprint sensor (also about pros/cons in being positioned on the back/front of the phone)
- particular software/hardware features that may be useful but missing on one of the two devices
- issues/problems/avaliaibility with root, custorm roms, warranty, etc
Thanks in advance
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJy_RITyB-A
s7 edge is now same price on ebay
I'm currently using both of these phones (as well as an iphone 6s plus), and there are definitely pros and cons for both. Now overall I'm primarily using the P9 plus, and the reason is that I travel quite a bit so the dual sim function is extremely useful. The problem with the S7 edge is that even the dual sim models only have 32GB, so it's not enough memory. If the S7edge had a 64G dual sim version, it would probably edge out the P9 plus, but only ever so slightly. Let me list some of the pros and cons:
- battery life: The S7 edge has slightly better battery life (my version is the exynos version), but the P9 is very good too, it's just that the S7 edge is excellent. So for me it depends on your usage pattern. With both sims activated, the P9 plus lasts me just through a full day, so having the S7 edge's battery life would be better for me in terms of peace of mind.
- memory: as mentioned the P9 plus comes with 64G so it's the much better choice here if you are not adding a memory card.
- screen: I actually prefer the P9 Plus because it's flat. The S7 edge's edge does get annoying at times and the viewable area feels more comfortable on the P9 plus. Quality is very similar.
-fingerprint sensor: P9 plus. You don't need to press on it and the activation is quicker than the S7. The S7 isn't bad, but it's a step behind the P9 plus and the iphone 6s plus as well. I'm fine with the placement of the button, both locations work well and it's easy to get used to.
- software: P9 plus. The latest touchwiz is ok, but I always slap on Nova, and so overall I actually find the Huawei software to be leaner and quicker. It's one of the fastest Android phones I've used in day-to-day situations. Not sure what type of memory the phone uses, but my P9 plus flies. The Kirin processor is inferior to the exynos but in normal usage I actually feel that the operation feels smoother on the P9 plus. Now I don't play games so I'm sure there's a difference there, but in terms of using apps like instagram, flightradar, google apps, browser, etc. it's at least a tie. I think Huawei's built in battery power manager is also more robust than the Samsung one. When you restrict background processes Huawei really shuts it down. I don't use Samsung's split screen much so for me the lack of it is no big deal. One annoyance of the Huawei though is that I can't figure out how to make notifications display properly in the notification bar. What I mean is for my weather app, it normally can display the weather on the notification strip at the top. On my Huawei, it shows an icon that depicts the app running but not the actual weather information. I can't seem to find a way around this.
- camera: tie. The S7 edge is slightly faster, better in low light, and has sharper details. I however prefer the P9 plus' color rendering and overall picture before zooming in. It's probably because of the lack of ois or something, but when zooming in for example to words on small objects the S7 does a much better job of rendering this. But at the end of the day who's reading the text on small objects? So this one is a tough call. I love the P9 plus' camera effects and overall picture quality, but you've got to be more steady handed in low light. I also love the S7 edge's ability to quickly take a picture and knowing that more likely than not the picture will be quite good. Just to add I basically don't shoot in raw format.
- I haven't rooted my P9 plus, but I have rooted my S7 edge. I don't it's much of an issue as both can be rooted. Haven't had any major issues with either software and they seem to be updated at the same pace.
- build: tie. The P9 plus feels super premium in my opinion, and the S7 edge is a looker. It comes down to whether you like the metal look / feel or the glass look / feel. Having said that you pretty much must have a case for the S7 edge or it's too difficult to hold without accidentally hitting the screen's edge.
- music through headphones: this is actually pretty important for me, and both of these are above average performers. More treble and less bass than the iphone 6s plus in my opinion, but very clean output. So no problems for either on here. I keep Huawei's own music enhance off though - I find that adds way too much bass and distorts the actual quality of the music.
These two phones are definitely the two best Android phones I've ever used, and I've used a lot (I actually also have a G5 but it's purely a music player now...it really cannot compare to either one of these other than the camera). Other than the memory / dual sim issue, I think it purely comes down to:
1. do you play games? the Samsung chip may be better for this
2. How heavy a user are you? the Samsung battery may give you the extra juice needed
3. Screen / typing: the edge screen can definitely be a pain when it comes to typing, which could be the tie breaker that goes in favor of the P9 plus
I guess overall, the Samsung slightly edges the Huawei. If the price similar and you don't need dual sim and the curved screen doesn't bother you, I'd go with the S7 edge. But again the P9 plus is a great phone in its own right.
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I guess overall, the Samsung slightly edges the Huawei. If the price similar and you don't need dual sim and the curved screen doesn't bother you, I'd go with the S7 edge. But again the P9 plus is a great phone in its own right.
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Thanks a lot for the many details in your reply!
Can I ask if you have any experience/preference about screen readability outdoor in a very sunny day condition? is any phone better?
Honestly I hate the curved screen idea as I type a lot and use to read comics on the phone. It's just that in my area I can find both phones for the same price so I was considering the S7 edge anyway. Also I tend to be a heavy user at times, so the extra battery life may be nice.
Thanks again.
tacchan23 said:
Thanks a lot for the many details in your reply!
Can I ask if you have any experience/preference about screen readability outdoor in a very sunny day condition? is any phone better?
Honestly I hate the curved screen idea as I type a lot and use to read comics on the phone. It's just that in my area I can find both phones for the same price so I was considering the S7 edge anyway. Also I tend to be a heavy user at times, so the extra battery life may be nice.
Thanks again.
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I have to say that I find both equally legible - they are pretty similar displays made by Samsung. In real life usage I'd rate both above average in outdoor sunlight, so no issues there. I'm using the P9 plus today, and it's really sunny outdoors where I am and I can read it quite well with auto brightness. I haven't used the S7 edge for a few weeks but I remember it being fine as well.
It's a really tough call - but if this is your day-to-day driver, and the price is the same, I'd probably say that the Samsung is a safer bet.
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It's a really tough call - but if this is your day-to-day driver, and the price is the same, I'd probably say that the Samsung is a safer bet.
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Yes, really difficult to decide
I also feel that for the same price the s7 would be slightly "safer". Just hating the curved screen... Will try to compare both phones again in some shop and decide.
Thanks again for your help!
I have used Samsungs all Galaxy S top models since the first Galaxy S came out. My last Samsung was Galaxy S6 Edge. Never ever again will i buy a Samsung, awfull battery time, ugly layout, service problems when it breakes. After that i bought my first Huawei, first P8, then Mate8 and now P9+ i have never been more satisfied whith a phone. This is for me the best phone.
BenjamineDupont said:
Why people always compare this two model? I‘m curious~
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Why people always compare this two model? I‘m curious~
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Because I am undecided which phone to buy among these two models.
tsaojam said:
I'm currently using both of these phones (as well as an iphone 6s plus), and there are definitely pros and cons for both. Now overall I'm primarily using the P9 plus, and the reason is that I travel quite a bit so the dual sim function is extremely useful. The problem with the S7 edge is that even the dual sim models only have 32GB, so it's not enough memory. If the S7edge had a 64G dual sim version, it would probably edge out the P9 plus, but only ever so slightly. Let me list some of the pros and cons:
- battery life: The S7 edge has slightly better battery life (my version is the exynos version), but the P9 is very good too, it's just that the S7 edge is excellent. So for me it depends on your usage pattern. With both sims activated, the P9 plus lasts me just through a full day, so having the S7 edge's battery life would be better for me in terms of peace of mind.
- memory: as mentioned the P9 plus comes with 64G so it's the much better choice here if you are not adding a memory card.
- screen: I actually prefer the P9 Plus because it's flat. The S7 edge's edge does get annoying at times and the viewable area feels more comfortable on the P9 plus. Quality is very similar.
-fingerprint sensor: P9 plus. You don't need to press on it and the activation is quicker than the S7. The S7 isn't bad, but it's a step behind the P9 plus and the iphone 6s plus as well. I'm fine with the placement of the button, both locations work well and it's easy to get used to.
- software: P9 plus. The latest touchwiz is ok, but I always slap on Nova, and so overall I actually find the Huawei software to be leaner and quicker. It's one of the fastest Android phones I've used in day-to-day situations. Not sure what type of memory the phone uses, but my P9 plus flies. The Kirin processor is inferior to the exynos but in normal usage I actually feel that the operation feels smoother on the P9 plus. Now I don't play games so I'm sure there's a difference there, but in terms of using apps like instagram, flightradar, google apps, browser, etc. it's at least a tie. I think Huawei's built in battery power manager is also more robust than the Samsung one. When you restrict background processes Huawei really shuts it down. I don't use Samsung's split screen much so for me the lack of it is no big deal. One annoyance of the Huawei though is that I can't figure out how to make notifications display properly in the notification bar. What I mean is for my weather app, it normally can display the weather on the notification strip at the top. On my Huawei, it shows an icon that depicts the app running but not the actual weather information. I can't seem to find a way around this.
- camera: tie. The S7 edge is slightly faster, better in low light, and has sharper details. I however prefer the P9 plus' color rendering and overall picture before zooming in. It's probably because of the lack of ois or something, but when zooming in for example to words on small objects the S7 does a much better job of rendering this. But at the end of the day who's reading the text on small objects? So this one is a tough call. I love the P9 plus' camera effects and overall picture quality, but you've got to be more steady handed in low light. I also love the S7 edge's ability to quickly take a picture and knowing that more likely than not the picture will be quite good. Just to add I basically don't shoot in raw format.
- I haven't rooted my P9 plus, but I have rooted my S7 edge. I don't it's much of an issue as both can be rooted. Haven't had any major issues with either software and they seem to be updated at the same pace.
- build: tie. The P9 plus feels super premium in my opinion, and the S7 edge is a looker. It comes down to whether you like the metal look / feel or the glass look / feel. Having said that you pretty much must have a case for the S7 edge or it's too difficult to hold without accidentally hitting the screen's edge.
- music through headphones: this is actually pretty important for me, and both of these are above average performers. More treble and less bass than the iphone 6s plus in my opinion, but very clean output. So no problems for either on here. I keep Huawei's own music enhance off though - I find that adds way too much bass and distorts the actual quality of the music.
These two phones are definitely the two best Android phones I've ever used, and I've used a lot (I actually also have a G5 but it's purely a music player now...it really cannot compare to either one of these other than the camera). Other than the memory / dual sim issue, I think it purely comes down to:
1. do you play games? the Samsung chip may be better for this
2. How heavy a user are you? the Samsung battery may give you the extra juice needed
3. Screen / typing: the edge screen can definitely be a pain when it comes to typing, which could be the tie breaker that goes in favor of the P9 plus
I guess overall, the Samsung slightly edges the Huawei. If the price similar and you don't need dual sim and the curved screen doesn't bother you, I'd go with the S7 edge. But again the P9 plus is a great phone in its own right.
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YOu should buy Honor V8 AL20 2k version and you would be much more impressed than with P9 plus
if you play 3D heavy games like HIT, the Kirin 955 cant provide 60fps on a 1080p panel, the 2k panel will be worse of with 3d games but if you dont game then the honor v8 sounds good. Or consider the note 7 instead?
I opened the box, slapped on my Tumi wireless chargable battery pack from my Moto Z and the battery is insane. No way I can drain this in one day. Also all the complaints about the camera don't make sense to me (yet). I've taken side by side photos with my s8+ and I prefer the z2's pictures to the s8. The shutter doesn't seem slow at all. I don't get it.
The one thing I am annoyed with however, is the speakerphone. It plays nice and loud for Youtube videos and ringtones/music, but phone calls is way too low. The volte calls sound much better and louder than the standard calls though. Also I took some snapchat videos and the audio is very quiet there as well; like you almost can't hear it. It just seems like there is bugs in the audio currently since Youtube gets loud and other stuff doesn't. If they can fix the audio with updates, then I don't see any problems as of yet.
If you get this phone PUT A GLASS PROTECTOR ON IT RIGHT AWAY. You can scratch the screen with your fricken fingernail. It's not worth it to wait a few weeks and then put a protector over a scratched screen. Have one waiting.
This is the fastest, most responsive phone I have ever seen. Excellent ram management too. I can be playing a game and then go to the home screen and use 5 other apps over the course of an hour, then come back to the game and its still in ram right where I left it. Try that with a Samsung, or even Pixel lol. Phone just flies and does everything right. The forward facing speaker and flash is amazing and should be the standard. I also went on a trip and took a bunch of photos. The black and white wasn't really my thing and the depth field effect didn't do much, but just the standard photos are way better than my s8+. I took them side by side to compare.
Also to those complaining of the smaller battery, that's what mods are for. They made a compromise between the Moto Z and the Moto Z Force and just turned it into one phone, so its thinner but still has the shatterproof screen. This phone makes my s8+ feel like a tank. A laggy tank with terrible ram management lol
I'd like to second on how great the phone is, I actually gave up my iPhone 7+ for it. The last android I had was an LG G6 which I had only for a couple days, and it's wonderful. It's very fast, and even without any mods, I get great battery life. The one touch navigation is also pretty awesome. It's like everything I loved about my 7+ back in a customizable android interface I love.
I have to agree with the takes of this being a great phone. I left the S8 for it and don't regret it at all. While the S8 camera was a bit better in lower light and fast motion situations, nearly everything else on this phone is an improvement. Fast, responsive, feels light-weight UI, battery life excellent (avg 4-5 hr SOT). Definitely think Moto's take on mods is a great way to do it. Really looking forward to getting the projector and playing around with that as well.
Well add me to the list! 60+ years old and with this phone I feel like a kid in a candy store. Having a lot of fun with this phone and even started listening to music again.
Ordered Z2, also have S8+: the most important factor
Thank you T-Mobile for allowing bootloader unlock of Z2 Force! I ordered the Moto Z2 Force earlier today. My Samsung S8+ is also nice but Samsung largely ruins it by not allowing US Snapdragon S8/S8+/Note 8 bootloader unlock, and by gimmicky crap like Bixby that eats up RAM.
But, why should someone endure the abuse that is disallowing bootloader unlock (e.g., by Samsung in this instance)? Such is why I will never again buy a phone that does not have a bootloader that can be unlocked, and why I ordered a T-Mobile Z2 Force!
i agree as well, first Moto phone and only complaint i have is the speakerphone like the OP noted. hopefully there will be a fix, but other than that, this phone is perfect for me, waiting for my projector mod and plan on getting either the game pad or JBL speaker mod. would love the Hasselblad mod but will have to save up for that one
This phone is awesome, I jumped from a S8+, then like a fool fell for marketing hype and again jumped to the Note 8.
But I am back in with my Z2 Force.
So i have had both the Samsung S8+ and Note 8 but still prefer my Z2 Force
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This phone is awesome, I jumped from a S8+, then like a fool fell for marketing hype and again jumped to the Note 8.
But I am back in with my Z2 Force.
So i have had both the Samsung S8+ and Note 8 but still prefer my Z2 Force
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You're the perfect person to ask for this. I was hoping to find someone that has had experience with all 3. I have a Z2 and an s8+ (it's for sale). I haven't used the s8 in 3 weeks or more and I switched back to it last night and used it half the day today. It is UNBEARABLE. It is the slowest turd, I just can't believe it. I don't remember it being this bad. I checked for updates and did what I could but it is out insanely slow. Like apps take 3 times as long to launch, horrible ram management and just delays and stutter all the time. It takes twice as long just to go to the home screen for example.
Is the note 8 like that? I haven't played with a note 8 yet, but everything online shows it spanking the s8. Just wondering how it stacks up to the Z2. Thanks for reading.
Note 8 felt sluggish to me. Both the Z2 Force and the Mate 9 are faster.
Z2 is faster than the Mate 9.
I think the S8+, Note 8, and the Z2 Force all have the same 835. The Note 8 just has 6GB of RAM as opposed to 4.
And I am no Samsung hater, I have had the Note 2, 3, 4, 8, Galaxy S3, S5, S7 Edge, and S8+.
I also currently have and use the S3 Frontier, Samsung Level U Bluetooth, and Samsung Level Box Mini.
I also think Samsung's calendar is the best in the business. I also like their dialer and keyboard, although SwiftKey is my favorite.
The Z series is just great. And the Z2 Force takes it to another level. You got full flagship specs and the light skin of Moto.
Just enough cool stuff to not be boring like Stock Android, while still being light enough that it flies.
And absolutely nothing can beat that double chop for flashlight
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Note 8 felt sluggish to me. Both the Z2 Force and the Mate 9 are faster.
Z2 is faster than the Mate 9.
I think the S8+, Note 8, and the Z2 Force all have the same 835. The Note 8 just has 6GB of RAM as opposed to 4.
And I am no Samsung hater, I have had the Note 2, 3, 4, 8, Galaxy S3, S5, S7 Edge, and S8+.
I also currently have and use the S3 Frontier, Samsung Level U Bluetooth, and Samsung Level Box Mini.
I also think Samsung's calendar is the best in the business. I also like their dialer and keyboard, although SwiftKey is my favorite.
The Z series is just great. And the Z2 Force takes it to another level. You got full flagship specs and the light skin of Moto.
Just enough cool stuff to not be boring like Stock Android, while still being light enough that it flies.
And absolutely nothing can beat that double chop for flashlight
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Yep chop chop ftw lol Use it every single day. Thanks for the heads up about the note. I still might check one out sometime, but for now though I'm loving my Z2.
Hey, apologies if this is too long of a post. Was hoping to share my recent experiences.
Background: Was on contract with a carrier using the XS Max. Needed to switch carriers, so sold iPhone to cover the contract balance. Switched carrier and got the Mate 20 Pro. After a week returned the Mate 20 and got a Note 9. And now I'm here I guess posting with the Note 9.
Mate 20 Pro: I ended up returning it because my top half of the screen had a red tint to it and the center part of the display had greenish colour to it. For the record, I've owned a Mate 8 in the past. To my surprise, when I started using the Mate 20 Pro I could immediately tell that (a) it's a beautiful and fast device, and (b) that EMUI haven't changed one bit... Whether it's android 7, 8, or 9 -- frustration levels remain high. I hope no one gets me wrong, I love Huawei. Kinda always did. I love the fact that they copy everything they can from Apple and other manufacturers. That's a good thing because it means its users can enjoy awesome features like 3D face unlock (which worked great for me! I think they implemented it really well) or no headphone jack (I'm joking), or even new features like in display finger print scanner or having the Google now integrated to the launcher, or what about the small zoomed in screen when you're moving the typing cursor? Nice touch! But the truth is, you're gonna be googling for hours trying to understand why you can't receive notifications or so many other things that are unique to EMUI. Even me being a user that is already very familiar with EMUI, I still couldn't figure out why I'm not receiving notifications until I wake up the screen in the morning, or why I can't set a live lockscreen wallpaper, or why am I getting punished for switching to Nova Launcher? Or why can't my DPI settings apply to the notification shade. No kidding the battery is awesome, nothing is allowed to run in the background and gets closed after you open a few apps. Also, the device is not as smooth as people make it seem. You do notice lag, and sometimes in places you wouldn't expect. For example, when YouTube plays as PIP, there's no way you're not gonna notice lag everywhere. Did that make me return the phone? No. But the screen issue did. And while returning, I decided to give the Note 9 a chance.
Note 9: Overall, the Note 9 has a better screen, slightly worse cameras, worse facial recognition, no notch! Worse one handed usability, slightly worse battery, much better speakers, a headphone jack! Comes with headphones you'll actually try to use, has a s-pen (not useful for me), AOD that is actually useful, and a better software experience. Do I hate Bixby? Yes. Am I able to remove Bixby and use nova launcher with zero problems? Yes. The battery probably gives me an hour less screen on time. But remember, this is with all my regular apps refreshing in the background and multitasking that keeps much more apps ready to go in the background. The screen is also noticibly better with better viewing angles and better implementation of how the rounded corners look. This phone actually seem to perform better as well. I don't care about Android versions or what nanometer is the processor... All I care about is my experience using the phone. And with the Note 9 it's simpler and smoother. Here for example, the phone doesn't lag when YouTube is in PIP mode or lags less when I'm double pressing the multitasking button (quick app switching). Having no notch allows me to see all my notification icons in the status bar, which is awesome. In terms of user and multimedia experience, this device delivers.
Who knows, maybe I'll change my mind in the future. As it stands now, the thought of returning this device and getting another Mate 20 Pro (potentially with a better screen) haven't crossed my mind...
Returning this device and getting another Huawei.
Samsung Note9 is not for you.
Was in the same boat had both, if I could just keep the facial unlock and cameras from the 20
both iris scanner and face unlock are obsolete coming of congress in Barcelona in 3 weeks, all flagships will greet us with punch hole cameras and in display scanners , same for P30 series on 31st march, with trend to get rid of that front facing camera gimmicks at the end of 2019. As for Note 9 vs Mate 20 pro there's absolutely no contest here to speak of, every professional reviewer concluded that current quad bayer sensors are lackluster compared to 12mp offerings which was to be expected.. hype train is pretty much the only thing Huawei has, and it lost momentum with poor processing and worst software experience on android
Hello, i also had the Mate 20 Pro since day one, and i had the famous LG screen problem , i had to return it and get another one, but after few weeks i couldn't stand the screen that is sooo edged, it was annoying to me, also the weird screen size, it looked so long and not even while watching videos, after all i had to return it and get the Note9 and i never looked back, i found Note9 screen to be a lot better, Always on display with full features is awesome unlike the Basic AOD on the Mate 20 Pro, and the One UI/ Android 9 update made the Note 9 even better.
Cheers
Where do I start with this, well let's start with my S10 plus 512gb version as that was my daily driver since launch. For me that's a seriously long time to stay with the same phone. It still is top notch, pardon the punt.
I never thought I would leave my favourite phone for so many reasons on the shelve to pickup the cheaper Oneplus.
The following are the reasons why I'm currently holding on to Oneplus 7 pro, the features which I most impressed with:
1. QHD 6.67" amoled screen, vibrant big and bright all screen. Nearly as vibrant as Samsung's screen.
2. Camera best Oneplus have produced. Images sharp with good detail, really impressed. Obviously not as good as Samsung's but for me good enough. I'm not a massive picture taker or selfies person.
3. Loud dual speakers, again this is top notch. Not as full or rich sound as S10 plus but it's darn close. Another surprise.
4. Triple SSS performance (coin that one) - Super smooth speedy performance. No strutting or freezing experienced yet.
5. Near stock firmware with a few Oneplus touches.
6. Quick updates to latest Android software.
7. Pop up camera prefer it over the hole in the screen, use it unlock phone as it's cool.
8. That damn refresh rate, boy ow boy is it smooth. This has completely spoilt me, it's fluid. This was always missing in android phones when comparing to iPhone. It's not perfect but it's brilliant.
It's pricey but when I consider how much other flagships are selling for its value for money.
I would pick this phone over every other phone even though it doesn't have wireless charging and waterproof ratings and only 256gb storage. Anyone overly reliant on these features then this phone isn't for you. Fortunately I'm not and I'm sticking with it for as long as I can.
So far I haven't missed my s10 plus and I'm glad Oneplus took this flagship route too. And I'm glad they've given people choice of going premium or the cheaper version.
Any questions give me a shout.
totally agree with everything you wrote!
This is my first day using this phone, also switching from the s10+ 512
Also I have come from the S10+ 8/512gb Ceramic White, whilst I very much enjoyed my experience, and Samsung produced a solid device.
The user experience is the selling point for OnePlus, it is simply untouched at this point, it's a perfect blend if you will.
I'm not saying I had any issues with my S10+ it was smooth, and OneUI is a remarkable improvement. However there was 4 Solid reasons for me to switch.
1)The 90htz all screen display, now I have experienced 90htz with the R.O.G and it's something I very much appreciate, also an uninterrupted screen, (the punch hole is not bad) but having the Find X and Next previously I grew to appreciated (no interruptions).
2)30w Fast charging, yeah this is a great thing (currently have 44w with my Vivo IQOO) and when using the S10+ with 15w it was painstakingly slow in comparisons.
3)UFS 3.0 now this was included in the "Galaxy Fold" why it wasn't present in the S10+ or even the 5G variant is Monday boggling, as clearly it can be massed produced and Samsung are in the semiconductor industry so "confused" but another reason to switch it up.
4) Software oh boy do I fully appreciate oxygenOS is clean, well optimised and has a fine blend. It's almost perfect, and in some ways better than stock itself (although it's close to)
5)ok I'm adding in but it is a great development device, still now OnePlus are friendly in this regard and in my opinion I think they are fully sensible as they learn so much from this, the development community gives them information on what we want improved, implemented, the likes and dislikes, even development that makes things better like Gcam, they learn from this. So their is no arrogance, this I like.
Samsung are closing doors and TWRP has to run on the boot partition now (not good).
So I'm not saying the S10+ is not a great device it's fantastic, it's just not quite as good as a user experience you get with OnePlus. Ok camera needs work on the 7 Pro, but I think it will get there and for the pics I take it's perfectly acceptable.
Will get my 7 Pro tomorrow, looking forward to that great user experience.
I only wish the oneplus had the gs10 plus type of curve display since they decided on a curve. The gs10 plus curves almost at the end of the border while the 7 pro curves at 75% of the screen.
I also switched from an S10+ for the display without a notch, better update support, and overall smoothness of OnePlus phones. I'm deciding whether or not to keep it as a back up since the resale value has plummeted.
Goodbye to my nice S10 Plus and hello cool 1+7Pro! Cheers
I honestly was debating whether to get the S10 plus or the 7 pro. Decided on the 7 pro and was going to think about it for the next week since I have 14 days from date of purchase to return the phone. My mind is made up now so now I'm trying to get my wife one now.
I own both the 7 Pro and the S10+
This is coming from someone who hasn't owned a Samsung since the Note 4 and has owned almost every OnePlus device.
While the 7 Pro is a really good phone the S10+ is just better. The only things better on the 7 Pro is the screen scrolling (90htz), OnePlus gestures (best Android gestures hands down), UFS 3.0 storage, and screen off gestures.
The fingerprint reader is faster on the 7 Pro but the fingerprint reader on S10+ works when your fingers are wet, and you don't need to wake the screen to use it.
I do like the size of the 7 Pro (I like bigger phones) but in-hand the S10+ feels better, 7 Pro is thicker than the S10+.
Samsung's new One UI is nothing like the old Touchwiz. The S10+ has so many customization option it's not even funny. I have found no reason to want to root the S10+ (coming from someone who has rooted every single phone they have owned).
7 Pro camera is ok but the camera on the S10+ is good if not great (not Pixel great).
The S10+ will be my daily driver and the 7 Pro will be my rooting, flashing, playing around on phone.
I have both the S10 5g and OP7 Pro. Both are outstanding devices. You can't go wrong with either. But the price difference can't be overlooked. With tax, the S10 5g (512gb) is double that of the OP7 Pro. Think about that for a minute...DOUBLE!! How may things can you think of that are half the price of the competition and actually better?!?!? I can't think of any. Says a lot about OP and what they have accomplished. There are obviously pros/cons with both devices. Depends what your needs are. Kudos to Samsung & OnePlus for making great devices!
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I may be only one, but I think the overall performance of the 7 pro is in a whole other league. I've yet to ever see this thing stutter at anything I've done on it. Cannot say the same about my current S10+ ceramic or any other one I've had including the crazy 12gb 1T variant. I've had the U, U1, W, F and F/DS and most of the time phone will stutter. It was most noticable when unlocking it and going to the home screen, mind you my home screen is not a clutter fest but a simple single row of 5 icons and one clock. Then in general use, chrome would take a bit to open etc.
Then there is the wireless power share, total gimmick if you ask me. It's cool sure, but useful to what degrees? Maybe if you got the Galaxy buds (which wore also asstwine aipod sounding hot garbage) and charge them when going to bed.
Wireless charging? Could careless for it, never use it anyway.
Built quality tho will have to go to Samsung. The 7 pro feels nice in the hand and you can feel it's much better then the 6T which felt like a $200 toy but it can't beat the feel of the S10+. I've also noticed OnePlus uses some sort of lower quality of metal for their housing as I'm noticing some fine scratches from 2 days of use and being super careful with it. Never had that issue with the s10+, no case ever, no screen protector and not a single micro scratch.
Coming from a Note 9....I really like OP font and speed. As others mentioned, even chrome is faster loading. Yes the screen on the Note is much better and the gcam loaded on the Note owns OP...for now anyways, but something about this phone smoothness and speed has me hooked on it. I'm still in the 14 day window on it and thus still deciding to keep it... But otherwise I love it. Love the OS, speed, gestures, etc. The screen curve is ok, but could have been better. Look at it like this guy's.... It's better than what's coming from pixel 4....
True, the Pixel's are always behind and have a hard time catching up with once a year release...
What I prefer Samsung S10 plus ceramic
over Oneplus 7 pro.
S10 plus build quality ceramic version feels and looks much more premium
S10 plus is thinner
S10 plus speakers
S10 plus camera and video recording options
S10 plus 512gb memory option
Would I go back to S10 probably not as I'm Oneplus is almost my ideal phone. After using Oneplus software, screen refresh and triple SSS performance I couldn't.