Best way to delete older SMS messages without deleting the whole conversation? - T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I have a situation here... On my lovely Note 4, I was experiencing some problem with messaging. It'd gotten really slow, specifically when I'd attempt to reply to a text, half the time the keyboard would stutter and I'd have to retype most of the message. It got so infuriating that I ended up ordering the Note 7, which had no issues after I transfered all my things over via Smart Switch (so all 25,000 messages...).
Well, we all know what happened with the Note 7... I don't know if it's a memory difference, or the fact that the "Messages" app on the Note 7 was just that much better (loved the new keyboard too!) that it could handle all those messages without issues or what. But now that I've been forced to go back to my Note 4, the Messages app crashes if I go to one of the conversations that had a lot of texts.
That brings us to my question. What is the best way to delete messages that are already there? It has options to delete anything more that X amount of messages, but that doesn't help in conversation threads that are already there. What I have done to fix at least one conversation thread was to re-do the backup to my SD card of the messages, but only past 3 months instead of all, then delete the conversation thread, then restore via Smart Switch the messages again.
But I have a few other 'conversations' to do that to, and was wondering if there was a better method out there?
My phone is rooted, so there shouldn't be an issue there.

If you set the text limit, it should delete old texts afterwards. Like form 1000 to 200, but it takes time afterwards I believe.. It worked on all other previous galaxy phones that way that I've had since the nexus

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devastating text message issue

So I receive a text, click on the notification and read the message, then I type a response and press send, now the fun part- it sends to someone else. Not every time but enough to make me not use the app. Phone is stock, using stock messaging app. This isn't going to cut it. Anyone?
Having 2 contacts with the same name, but different phones?
Having 2 different contacts with several phones, one of them being the same?
Look for those, I believe that it's the root cause of your problem.
I unfortunately wasn't able to verify that. I'm going to reset the phone and see what happens....
This is actually why I stopped using handcent sms, I think it has to do with the way the Android OS reads the contacts.
This is a common issue many people have. But its with the stock messaging app. Handcent fixes this issue, or at least it does not happen with handcent. Google never did figure out this bug.
RogerPodacter said:
This is a common issue many people have. But its with the stock messaging app. Handcent fixes this issue, or at least it does not happen with handcent. Google never did figure out this bug.
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Thanks I guess that settles it. Good to know Google is working on making the OS prettier instead of making its most basic functions work. I understand android has a list a mile long of issues they need to address but this has to be pretty damn close to the top 5 no?
It has to be disorganized contacts on your end. Duplicate phone numbers, etc. I've never heard of this problem.
Of course I could be full of sh¡#.
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Do you have friends with nicknames and friends that use their full name?
Sorry, here's an example: Elizabeth and Liz, or Eddie and Edward. I've noticed that the contacts i have with names like those get combined automatically for some reason and when you try to text one it goes to the wrong person
Now I've rooted, running frg 33 and its still happening. But now I have one conversation in my list, I send a text to that person via the conversation, then I get a "?" In reply from a random contact who has received the text as well as the intended recipient. These contacts have the same area code but completely different names, no nicknames. Is it possible this is a phone issue? I absolutely want to stay with android and ill gladly get a different android phone when I can...but if this is just how google rolls then I have an awful decision to make. Also, I searched and it apparently happens on 3rd party SMS apps. I wonder if it could even be a carrier issue....I don't know the intricacies of texts but this is my 3rd android phone and the first that sends texts to whomever it wants...there a lot of small bugs with android, but this is far and away the most disappointing. Anyone had any luck with this? Maybe there are settings in the **464646** or whatever it is, that could help?

Galaxy S messenger app crashes occasionally?

This is my first android phone after using a Iphone for the past year.. I don't really care are about gps as I don't use it and as for lag its bearable to me. But the thing that seems to be grinding my gears is the default messenger app. Occasionally I would be texting a message to a friend and when I receive a reply, I would get a error message that says the android text messenger app has crashed and I am forced to close it.
It takes a reset or I have to wait like 5 or so minutes before the phone is back to normal.. I text more than talk so its a inconvenience when this happens. I just want to know if its a common occurrence or it might has something to do with the apps I have installed? I have no apps which modify my text in any way but I did disable the counter on when the when deletes old messages.
Anyone have any ideas? Thanks!

[Q] whats up with the stock messages app?

My messages app STRAIGHT SUCKS!
i have no clue why, but everything I do it lags. I click in the text field and the keyboard takes forever to open (both stock Samsung keyboard and swype), i go too fast typing and it lags, possibly force closes, i try to send a message, it takes forever to add it to the list of responses and actually send, it's not even a signal thing, the app itself takes FOREVER and if I try to start typing before it posts or and send, it can freeze up and fc... if i even get a simple picture mms, my phone might force close and I've even had one time where my wife sent multiple mms in a row and it caused a hot reboot!
This is a stock app... i tried using stock keyboard, thinking that was it, no difference. I tried removing the image from the wallpaper on the messages background, that did nothing. ... there shouldn't be problems with either of those 2 things anyways! My gs4 did fine with similar STOCK features and aftermarket keyboards....
This is horrible.
Not rooted. Updated. Both Samsung keyboard and official swype. Both with in app custom picture background, preset color background and stock background.
I love everything else about this phone, but I'm about to return this thing, i shouldn't have to root to fix a stock app.
Anyone else have/had these problems? Any way to resolve them?
Just use Hangouts.
p()()pypants said:
My messages app STRAIGHT SUCKS!
i have no clue why, but everything I do it lags. I click in the text field and the keyboard takes forever to open (both stock Samsung keyboard and swype), i go too fast typing and it lags, possibly force closes, i try to send a message, it takes forever to add it to the list of responses and actually send, it's not even a signal thing, the app itself takes FOREVER and if I try to start typing before it posts or and send, it can freeze up and fc... if i even get a simple picture mms, my phone might force close and I've even had one time where my wife sent multiple mms in a row and it caused a hot reboot!
This is a stock app... i tried using stock keyboard, thinking that was it, no difference. I tried removing the image from the wallpaper on the messages background, that did nothing. ... there shouldn't be problems with either of those 2 things anyways! My gs4 did fine with similar STOCK features and aftermarket keyboards....
This is horrible.
Not rooted. Updated. Both Samsung keyboard and official swype. Both with in app custom picture background, preset color background and stock background.
I love everything else about this phone, but I'm about to return this thing, i shouldn't have to root to fix a stock app.
Anyone else have/had these problems? Any way to resolve them?
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I guess that even though it was fine on my gs4, the note 4 didn't like the 13.5K text messages i restored the phone with my backup program... considering I have to record texts with an Ex, this us somewhat concerning, and a pain not have all texts backed up into one file and makes me wonder that despite allowing me to have "no limit"on my text messages, that it will eventually be too much and slow the program down to useless speeds again...
I just backed up all sms, set backup app as primary messages, deleted all sms texts, cleared data/cache/defaults on stock messages app, reset phone, reset stock app as default and boom, everything is flying again...
So if anyone ever gets a huge lag in their messages app, backup old messages if you want them, then delete all sms messages with a third party app cause if you want to keep your mms, deleting threads/convos with stock app will delete mms too if you haven't saved then some other way...
N suggest using hangouts? Really? The answer is fix what's broken, not leave it behind, that does no-one any good.
Similar situation but with knowledge of it
p()()pypants said:
Resolved...
I guess that even though it was fine on my gs4, the note 4 didn't like the 13.5K text messages i restored the phone with my backup program... considering I have to record texts with an Ex, this us somewhat concerning, and a pain not have all texts backed up into one file and makes me wonder that despite allowing me to have "no limit"on my text messages, that it will eventually be too much and slow the program down to useless speeds again...
I just backed up all sms, set backup app as primary messages, deleted all sms texts, cleared data/cache/defaults on stock messages app, reset phone, reset stock app as default and boom, everything is flying again...
So if anyone ever gets a huge lag in their messages app, backup old messages if you want them, then delete all sms messages with a third party app cause if you want to keep your mms, deleting threads/convos with stock app will delete mms too if you haven't saved then some other way...
N suggest using hangouts? Really? The answer is fix what's broken, not leave it behind, that does no-one any good.
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I've always had this problem whenever i restore my backed-up conversations, but in my case, it's only the first time i open a conversation i've recently restored from a backup, after that, it's just fine. I'm guessing this might be because it has to create some sort of cache the first time the system opens the entire conversation for you to read.
What i usually do... Get new phone, restore previous sms/mms, open each conversation for the first time and when i'm actually going to text, i get no lag or extensive wait for the messages to open-up. I hope that is also your case and you can deal with that LONG first wait.
PS- yes, i also NEED to keep a backup of my exes *sigh* those messages are my legal defenders ^_^
I never had an issue with restore but I delete the stock messeging app. Chomp works way better
BAD ASS NOTE 4

[Q] Convert SMS to MMS?

Contrary to many threads I've seen all around the internet, my phone does NOT do this. My friend who is using the S4 can constantly keep typing and it will automatically change to one nice big MMS message after 160 characters. My HTC One (M7) however, does not do this. It sends all the messages separate, and most of the time, not even in the right order. How can I get it to automatically convert SMS messages that are over 160 characters to MMS? Thanks in advance!
What you are seeing is a feature of Touchwiz. Chances are you will need a messaging app capable of this.
Okay...any apps that immediately come to mind from anybody?... I looked up quite a few, but most were Wi-Fi centered IMing apps, not actual texting apps.
8sms can do it! (Been searching for this for hours and hours.)
An alternative I found is to add a subject, but everything I saw you have to do manually for each message.

Multiple SMS threads?

So I haven't used an android phone since the HTC Hero and I'm not sure what is causing this. It doesn't do it to everyone so far and it doesn't seem to follow any pattern but here's what happens.
This afternoon I started a new text thread with my daughter and sent her 2 SMS messages using the messenger app. She responded a couple of hours later however her response came in an entirely newly created SMS thread within messenger. And she also mentioned she only received 1 of the 2 messages I sent.
This continues to happen randomly with different people. Both starting of a new thread when they reply and having not received all of my messages from the new SMS thread I had created to contact them.
I've only had this phone for a couple of days so I'm really trying to get used to it and stick with android again.
Thanks in advance!
Alright, we are going to have to take this step by step and just use the process of elimination for this.
When you are in your contacts, are there multiple contacts for your daughter? Example, Jainy and Jainy?
If there are multiple ones, one could contain only her email or with another app's contact system (example, Skype), and another instance of her contact could contain her number. So if you sent a SMS with to the wrong one, it could have never been sent.
While you are doing that, check the other contacts that it happens with.
I did check that, that's the first thing I thought it could be and there are no duplicates at all for her, or anyone else that I can see. Within her contact info particularly, it's just her phone number and no other data.
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I did check that, that's the first thing I thought it could be and there are no duplicates at all for her, or anyone else that I can see. Within her contact info particularly, it's just her phone number and no other data.
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Have you tried another SMS app? Like Textra SMS or similar? Maybe the problem could lie within the app itself because I remember on the Zenfone 2, sometimes messages wouldn't send with one messenger but would be perfectly fine with another.
I haven't yet. And while I can certainly try it, I wouldn't want to use that as a fix you know what I mean? I haven't seen anyone complaining of it with this phone although a Google search reveals similar questions among a barrage of android phones but no solutions that I've seen that would apply to me.
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I haven't yet. And while I can certainly try it, I wouldn't want to use that as a fix you know what I mean? I haven't seen anyone complaining of it with this phone although a Google search reveals similar questions among a barrage of android phones but no solutions that I've seen that would apply to me.
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Sorry, late reply. Didn't see this thread get updated. Use the reply button under my post to quote it so that I'll get a notification when you reply.
Yeah, I see what you mean, you could even try clearing the data and cache of the messaging app too and see that fixes it as well. But when that was an issue, I never found a solution either other than it seems to happen randomly on some phones without the user doing much.
Only solution that fixes it was other SMS messengers, but then that is also a thing to figure out as to what is causing the problem. All messaging apps read from one file that has all the messages so it might be a problem in how it is being handled by the app. I know that sometimes when I restore my SMS messages to a new phone, I have to uninstall and reinstall the messaging app because it is not displaying the messages under the correct thread.
Any reason you don't want to use a different app? Textra, chomp, and Google messenger will all do basically the same thing, slightly different colors and settings, but if one works and the other doesn't, you have a solution. I bounce between those apps on different devices without a problem.

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