HTC 10 vs. Xperia XP/XZ - Headphone Sound Quality - Sony Xperia X Performance Questions & Answers

Has anyone reading this ever compared the HTC 10 to either the Sony Xperia X Performance (XP) or the newer Xperia XZ with regards to headphone quality? (Note: The XP & XZ use the SAME audio technology from what I've read/heard).
If so, please tell me about your experience here. Please provide as many details as possible............like what headphones did you use, what genre of music and type of quality (mp3, CD-Quality, Hi-Res, DSD, etc) was selected. Did you use an amp/DAC device in between them (I'm hoping not only b/c that wouldn't tell me which phone was better lol)? When comparing, which one sounded clearer? Had the wider/more expansive soundstage? Handled instrument separation the best? Won out on bass, mids, and highs/treble rendering?? Etc.
I know the 10 will get louder than the XP/XZ b/c of what I've seen in comparisons done by professional reviewers, with the 10 showing to have a higher output voltage. But volume is just ONE component.
I look forward to hearing from you all!

Have not tried the HTC but I use Devon audiophile headphones and sennheiser in ears... Which are the ones in the high end.
The sound is good compared to my old z3 and Samsung s5.
Clean and well balanced sound with nice punch
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HellRoot said:
Have not tried the HTC but I use Devon audiophile headphones and sennheiser in ears... Which are the ones in the high end.
The sound is good compared to my old z3 and Samsung s5.
Clean and well balanced sound with nice punch
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Hey Hell,
Wait, which phone are you talking about? You said sound is good compared to Z3 and S5. Sound of what? lol
I really just want people to tell me if they've compared the 2 together, or at least within the same month or so. It seems like HTC 10's audio may be the better of two, but not sure. The 10 seems to get more praise on headphone audio than the XP or XZ do, but I'd like "regular people's" opinions too.

RockStar2005 said:
Hey Hell,
Wait, which phone are you talking about? You said sound is good compared to Z3 and S5. Sound of what? lol
I really just want people to tell me if they've compared the 2 together, or at least within the same month or so. It seems like HTC 10's audio may be the better of two, but not sure. The 10 seems to get more praise on headphone audio than the XP or XZ do, but I'd like "regular people's" opinions too.
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Hey RockStar
I have the xp and the sound quality is fine. I don't know whether the HTC can play dsd but the xp does it very well.
I just made a comparison from which phones I have tried, as I dont have the HTC ?
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HellRoot said:
Hey RockStar
I have the xp and the sound quality is fine. I don't know whether the HTC can play dsd but the xp does it very well.
I just made a comparison from which phones I have tried, as I dont have the HTC
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Hey HellRoot,
I have it too and agree, though I really haven't tested it on headphones just on car speakers. On headphones I use a premium & portable in-between amp/DAC device. The Z3 has very good sound but I would say it was at the $200 level vs. amp/DAC or players at that price. When I went up to $300 with the Sony Walkman A17, I felt it was superior to the Z3's sound. So now I don't use the phone anymore on headphones, but these newer phones by LG like the V10 and V20 and also the HTC 10 are getting a high level of praise for their headphone sound quality that I've not seen given to Sony's Xperia phones ever. It just makes me wonder. I'm pretty sure the HTC 10 could match my Oppo device (see link) based on what I've read about it on here. One guy even said he liked it more than the might LG V10's sound overall, and that uses the same DAC as my HA-2 (that link is for HA-2SE, which is slighly newer, but looks the same). Of course, it's not JUST about the DAC, but still. lol
Also, the battery life on the new X series Xperia phones no longer can offer a 2-day battery life, which was standard in the past. IMHO, the 2-day battery life DIED with the Z series. Even on the Sony Mobile site the 2-day battery life selling point has mysteriously vanished from the site on those new phones like our XP. My XP can BARELY make it through one day if I start early enough, and that's WITH Stamina Mode being activated. I'm happy that the camera's improved though, but the cutbacks in battery life & audio quality (having a dedicated DAC with questionable quality and an integrated amp vs. HTC 10's dedicated DAC AND dedicated headphone amp ((dedicated is always better than integrated))) makes me question my purchase a bit. There are still pros to the XP vs. 10, like camera and waterproofing, but HTC has caught up A LOT with the 10 and so I wonder if the 11 will finally make them kings again?
It's the little things too. HTC took the time and cared enough about their customers to get VoLTE (including HD Voice) and Wi-Fi Calling certified with T-Mobile, who is my carrier, on their unlocked phones. Did Sony Mobile bother to do that? Hell no! lol
Battery life is a big deal to me, so where 2 years ago I chose the Z3 over my former One M8, I wonder if in 2017 I may very well go back to HTC? We will see. lol If HTC takes their front fingerprint sensor and integrates it INTO the side Power button the way Sony did, and brings their bottom stereo speaker back to the bottom front where it belongs, that choice will be even MORE difficult to make.

Howdy.
I have the XP and the M9 and I miss the volume of the M9 compared to the XP. I mainly listen to music from my phone when I'm in the car, streaming from [email protected] On the M9 I usually had the volume on the stereo set to 30-35 for LOUD, but on the XP, I'm up to 40 to get the basic kick. I can still hear myself talk and that tells me that the volume is too low.
I'm seriously thinking of getting the HTC 10 as there are numerous issues with my XP, as can be seen on different threads here on XDA and on the Sony forums as well. I'm not happy with this phone and I miss HTC
Cheers.
kekePower

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Howdy.
I have the XP and the M9 and I miss the volume of the M9 compared to the XP. I mainly listen to music from my phone when I'm in the car, streaming from [email protected] On the M9 I usually had the volume on the stereo set to 30-35 for LOUD, but on the XP, I'm up to 40 to get the basic kick. I can still hear myself talk and that tells me that the volume is too low.
I'm seriously thinking of getting the HTC 10 as there are numerous issues with my XP, as can be seen on different threads here on XDA and on the Sony forums as well. I'm not happy with this phone and I miss HTC
Cheers.
kekePower
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Hi keke,
Thanks for posting your opinion. Even though your post was on the M9 and not the 10, I still agree that based on what I'd read, the HTC flagship phones have been and still do get louder than the Xperia phones can. For me it's a concern on headphones b/c I don't want it DEAFENINGLY loud, but loud enough when I need it. So I feel ya there.
Well even though it's off-topic, what are the issues you're having with the XP? Lemme know.
Perhaps then you should just get the HTC 10? It is currently on sale for $150 off if you buy it from the HTC.com site by Monday 8:59PM PST. 3 out of the 4 colors are available to buy now; the 4th being Topaz Gold, but since the Camellia Red was not in stock either until today, there's a chance they may get more before the sale ends. But if you wanted a different color, then there's nothing stopping you. (Note: Red and Gold are only available if you buy the unlocked version, which IS certified for VoLTE ((including HD Voice) and Wi-Fi Calling with T-Mobile, which is my carrier. I'd only get the unlocked one because it offers faster updates than the carrier ones will.) You can buy it and pay it off at checkout, or click on "PayPal Credit" in checkout to get 6 mos to pay it off interest-free (after quick credit check). Buying it from the site gets you that 1-year Uh-Oh Protection too. After that if you wanna keep it longer, look into private phone insurance like I got for my int'l XP through either Square Trade or the one I chose, Worth Ave. Group.

Hi
I've compared xp to x and z3 and really xp has the best source hardware I've ever heard from phone - I'm a little bit na audiophile and I have few mobile and home DAC/amp's. So the xp has almost identical sound characteristic compared to HEGEL SUPER (with in-ear headphones you cannot hear any differences)
-tested with hifiman songbird, sennheiser momentum iem, apple iem, and many other $100 pricetag iems
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RockStar2005 said:
Hi keke,
Thanks for posting your opinion. Even though your post was on the M9 and not the 10, I still agree that based on what I'd read, the HTC flagship phones have been and still do get louder than the Xperia phones can. For me it's a concern on headphones b/c I don't want it DEAFENINGLY loud, but loud enough when I need it. So I feel ya there.
Well even though it's off-topic, what are the issues you're having with the XP? Lemme know.
Perhaps then you should just get the HTC 10? It is currently on sale for $150 off if you buy it from the HTC.com site by Monday 8:59PM PST. 3 out of the 4 colors are available to buy now; the 4th being Topaz Gold, but since the Camellia Red was not in stock either until today, there's a chance they may get more before the sale ends. But if you wanted a different color, then there's nothing stopping you. (Note: Red and Gold are only available if you buy the unlocked version, which IS certified for VoLTE ((including HD Voice) and Wi-Fi Calling with T-Mobile, which is my carrier. I'd only get the unlocked one because it offers faster updates than the carrier ones will.) You can buy it and pay it off at checkout, or click on "PayPal Credit" in checkout to get 6 mos to pay it off interest-free (after quick credit check). Buying it from the site gets you that 1-year Uh-Oh Protection too. After that if you wanna keep it longer, look into private phone insurance like I got for my int'l XP through either Square Trade or the one I chose, Worth Ave. Group.
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hey dude
sorry for offtopic
but I'm so not happy with xp hardware and software :
horrible soft: strange bahavior of ear distance sensor, rotate sensor and some few other issues
hardware: vibration engine is very loud (when vibrate mode is on its so loud that it cannot be discrete) and ****ty back panel painting/cating - I'm carying mine xp in oryginal sony "invisible back cover" and when something get beside phone and cover - it makes white-ish marks
AND little dot/tints on display (not very big but they are there!!!)
I'm feel cheeted by sony paying full price in sony centre for xp when they lounching 3 months later XZ model cheeper with on-ear headphones
shame for sony - I had all flagships since xperia S and I'm so so close to leave sony!!!

espe0 said:
Hi
I've compared xp to x and z3 and really xp has the best source hardware I've ever heard from phone - I'm a little bit na audiophile and I have few mobile and home DAC/amp's. So the xp has almost identical sound characteristic compared to HEGEL SUPER (with in-ear headphones you cannot hear any differences)
-tested with hifiman songbird, sennheiser momentum iem, apple iem, and many other $100 pricetag iems
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hey dude
sorry for offtopic
but I'm so not happy with xp hardware and software :
horrible soft: strange bahavior of ear distance sensor, rotate sensor and some few other issues
hardware: vibration engine is very loud (when vibrate mode is on its so loud that it cannot be discrete) and ****ty back panel painting/cating - I'm carying mine xp in oryginal sony "invisible back cover" and when something get beside phone and cover - it makes white-ish marks
AND little dot/tints on display (not very big but they are there!!!)
I'm feel cheeted by sony paying full price in sony centre for xp when they lounching 3 months later XZ model cheeper with on-ear headphones
shame for sony - I had all flagships since xperia S and I'm so so close to leave sony!!!
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I very much agree on this.
The xz was a better buy, they did not behave like gentlemen with this phone
The tiny dots..they are in all pixels? As I have that... But no other have confirmed this...
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hi espe,
Thank you for your post!
I see. Yes I myself use the Oppo HA-2 as my mobile amp/DAC currently, and love what it does to the sound. I'm hoping to one day just have a phone like the HTC 10 or LG V10 (or V20, which my cousin just got and said sounds AMAZING vs. his former Note 7) where I won't NEED an amp/DAC anymore. I think your take on the XP/X/Z3 comparison is a good one. I myself feel like Sony, in comparison with their competition, have slipped back a notch or two compared to where they were 2 years ago. 2 years ago, the HTC One M8 (which I used to have right before I got my old Z3) was great sounding, but I don't know if it had the sheer weight & power vs. the competition at the time as HTC does now with the 10 over the competition of today. 2 years ago, LG's phones' audio quality was considered a big joke, even worse than Samsung's according to some credible people. Then last year they came out with the V10 and just now V20, and they both are considered OUTSTANDING! So I think that even though the XP may sound better than the Z3 (I honestly do believe you on that front), they still aren't "on top" anymore like they were 2 years ago.
I remember I'd bought the $200 iBasso DX50 and compared it to my Z3 at the time. Amazingly, I could hear no difference in sound quality. That was kind of a shock to me, but an impressive one in Sony's favor. I then returned the DX50 and bought the $300 Sony Walkman A17. It was only THEN that I could hear a difference in quality in favor of the Walkman. But wow, $300! I can't say 100% for sure, but I'm prob 98-99% sure that the V10, V20, and HTC 10 all sound as good as my Walkman did, if not better? 2 years ago I never read any reviews (or AS many) that had such a POSITIVE reaction to the sound quality of any smartphone like I do now for HTC & LG. Even the Z3 I don't remember creating such a buzz, and Sony was even at the time promoting "Hi-Res" very much so. Now maybe because they did that it just took time for most reviewers to notice, but that's a big "maybe". I think it's more likely based on what I've read about the 10's audio prowess and even V10 & V20's that simply put, the bar has been raised significantly, and not by Sony. I even created not one but two threads on the Hi-Fi site "Head-Fi.com" about this topic. Feel free to read and comment on them if you wish.
I tend to stay away from earphones myself as I am not convinced they can offer the same "big sound" that headphones can. I used to have a $30 pair of V-Moda earphones and thought I was cool. My, how times have changed since 2 years ago. lol After loving the incredible $150-$200 AKG K550 (over several other more expensive headphones) for a long time, I just recently switched to the slightly better/clearer/more portable $299 Bang & Olufsen 2nd Generation H6 headphones. If you're looking for headphones within the under $500 range, I could not suggest any better options than the K550/K550 MK II (same sound signature) or the 2nd Gen H6. They both wipe the FLOOR with even some popular $400 headphones.
Not sure on the first several issues you mentioned, aside from the auto-rotate issue I've been having since that last mini update. I read through 2 different threads on here about it, but there doesn't seem to be a fix yet. I'm HOPING that the Nougat update we're ALL about to get on our XPs literally any day now will include a fix for that. It is annoying b/c once it kicks in after a restart (normally within a day or less), you can't make any pics or videos fullscreen without a reboot, and it ALSO messes with Smart Call Handling too. But wait, you see dots/tints on the display? Sounds to me like you may have gotten a faulty phone. I already returned my first XP b/c it was overheating BIG time, and another issue too I think was occurring on it. My newer one works much better. I would suggest replacing it if you can. Display issues are very hard to ignore vs. other lesser issues, and I don't know if ANY update could even fix those.
I'm with you there too to a certain point espe. The XP took FOREVER to release (4 mos??!! who does that??). The XZ came out like LESS than a month after it was announced, and has a better (though still crappy IMO) battery life and an improved camera too vs. the XP (though XP's camera is still great overall). But both phones I saw were rated as having the worst battery life and the longest charging times of ALL the 2016 flagship phones. The XP is the worst, and the XZ is a pretty close second. I mean, I too feel cheated b/c Sony always made their "2 Day Battery Life" promise a major selling point, but it is crystal clear to me now that that promise died with the Z series. They don't even mention it on their Sony Mobile site for the X phones anymore like they did in the past. My XP can't even make it through a full day if I start early enough (6am). Even with Stamina Mode on and turning my phone off a few times for a little while, this one day by like 8pm that night I only had 5% left. THAT is some major BS. They need to stop making these batteries so d*mn small. I know people like thin, but people want great battery life even more. A phone is no fun if there's now juice left to keep it running. lol
I see. Yes you're DEF a loyal Sony fan. I have and/or had a ton of Sony products too, but the Z3 was the only other Sony phone I've ever had, and it was my favorite overall vs. the other phones of its time. The battery life was MUCH better too. But since the death of the 2 Day Battery Life promise, the step back in audio, and other issues.......being forced to buy the int'l XP just to get a functioning fingerprint sensor, the super long waits for the phones to be released (and just the inconsistency of all that), the lack of customer care..........I may seriously go back to HTC next year. If the 11 improves its camera over the 10 (Note: the 10 was the first HTC flagship to use a Sony camera sensor, after Sony bought out camera sensor business of the former seller to HTC.......Toshiba.....and the camera got better. Coincidence? I think not. lol), and hopefully they go back to Classic BoomSound (BOTH speakers on the front, where the f'ing belong! lol), and doesn't go "phablet" (big yuck! lol), I will prob leave Sony for good. HTC makes buying their phones easy, no weird long waits, audio is considered louder AND better than Sony's, fingerprint sensors are included ON U.S. versions (b/c they're not too cheap to pay whatever fees for them to be used in the U.S., unlike Sony Mobile), even their unlocked phones will still offer the VoLTE (including HD Voice) and Wi-Fi Calling certification that T-Mobile requires to use them (which again, Sony Mobile is TOO CHEAP to pay for), Uh-Oh Protection, etc (see my last post for more details). Sony Mobile should be sitting on their THRONE here in the U.S. like they do in other countries (or are at least MUCH stronger in those places), but instead, they are cowering away for NO good reason and letting Apple and Samsung continue to rule over us with phones that overall are very good, but still not as great as Sony's Xperia phones once were and still kinda are. They need to grow some BALLS, and fast! But will they? Doesn't look like it.

hey Rockstar2005
You mentioned wifi signal weakness - goddamn ****ty performance of it, and hell yeah it's worst ever wifi module they implemented in xperia phone ever. Does't reconnect propertly or does it occasionaly. We can just talking and sony won't do anything with it. Overall xperias always been 90% best in everything for sure (body, photo, audio, and performance) - balanced 90% perfection of everything - but wait a moment ...sony goes terrible way by loosing Z series - every aspects should be a step forward but something went wrong and we have pretty phone without even middle-end functionality. Even huawei makes in my country huge expansion by giving good phones and excellent service / customer care. And sony just pissing on us (buy our **** and leave us alone ...but but wait come back and buy this **** again) I'm confused for waiting 2 weeks for ****ty reputated service opinion. Last one I've sent xperua Z ultra three times until they replaced the motherboard for me. I can bet on it - they will sent me not touched phone with eventualy reloaded rom.
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Espe,
That's fine. I was able to understand pretty much everything you said.
Well actually when I mentioned Wi-Fi I said "Wi-Fi Calling". I did not mention any issue with my Wi-Fi, as I'm (fortunately) not having any. Wi-Fi Calling is a feature from T-Mobile where you can make calls using your Wi-Fi signal, which may be stronger than your regular call reception is in whatever area you are in at the time. To have both that and VoLTE (Voice over LTE, which makes calls connect faster and offer stronger call quality and reception I believe) be active when using T-Mobile (which IS my carrier) here in the U.S., the phone maker has to get those certified (which costs money too) with T-Mobile. Sony was UNWILLING to do that, but HTC did do it, and to me, that shows they care more about U.S. customers than Sony Mobile does.
Yeah Sony DEF isn't as competitive as they were before, aside from camera, which is prob the only REAL strong point Sony still has.
That sux that they are giving you the "run around" on the Z Ultra. Maybe you should call and demand to speak to a supervisor or even higher than him/her?? I hope you get that issue resolved soon.

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Really worth it?

I just wanna ask the people who have run out and bought this phone if its really all that? I have read reviews watched them talk about it on android central and looked at the specs and compared it to the other phones that are out. I just want to know expierences so far
Well the scary thing to me is... I don't feel the need to root at the moment... It's smooth, battery life is amazing, active notifications are AWWWWESOME. once bootloader is figured out I may change my tune but my phone is in a very comfortable state. I LOVE IT!
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This phone changes the game. The spec sheet race is kind of silly when you think about it. I've never held a phone in my hands that feels as good as this one. I'm very happy with it
Simple answer. Yes. X8 core processors system is the way of the future.
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totally worth it
i truly prefer this over my year old s3
Love it! Switched from my S4GE and love the smaller size and feel in hand. Im only looking forward to root for tethering capabilities.
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What is the call quality and speakerphone like?
I picked this phone over my s4 and I think I've made the right choice.
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kstone2274 said:
I just wanna ask the people who have run out and bought this phone if its really all that? I have read reviews watched them talk about it on android central and looked at the specs and compared it to the other phones that are out. I just want to know expierences so far
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i went to the att store today and played with this phone and i can say im definately not impressed at all. i compared the screen side by side and the difference in the 2 screens is really noticable. Also it so reminds me of a iphone i dont know why but it just does. i know alot of people are gonna argue my opinion but as for a phone guru as myself i can pretty much say its not any kind of a flagship device. only thing that may be good about it more than my HTC One is battery life. I al really hoping the hanami is gonna be a great phone and be my next purchase
i think you meant to start a new post that said "i saw this phone for 5 minutes, i'll answer all my own questions!"
I think the more you use this phone the more you will appreciate the innovation and little things. I now love this phone.
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What is the call quality and speakerphone like?
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I came from the N4, which totally sucked. I had to strain to hear people. The X has excellent call quality, earpiece and speaker volume.
Well worth the cash:beer:
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People crying over the dual-core processor...Motorola decided to choose what mattered more, which is battery life over "raw computing power". without increasing the size or the weight of the phone by adding a bigger and bulkier battery. Our phones just need to be fast and smooth enough for our every day tasks such as watching videos, playing games, browsing etc. We're not using these things for high end computing or folding proteins etc. Just like a computer with a 12 core processor won't matter if you're still using HDD and not SSD. Or people who only care about the "horses" on a car and disregard the weight of the vehicle or its transmission etc. I don't think people understand the software possibilities of having hardware designed for "always-on" mode besides the touchless google now feature. I've tried installing a voice assistant like the one on Moto X from the play store and my battery died within a couple hours with the screen off. The X8 system is really redefining how conventional smartphones would work in the future once people realize the possibilities that can bring. Now whether or not you agree that your smartphone should always be on and listening/aware is a different debate.
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People crying over the dual-core processor...Motorola decided to choose what mattered more, which is battery life over "raw computing power". without increasing the size or the weight of the phone by adding a bigger and bulkier battery. Our phones just need to be fast and smooth enough for our every day ta"qsks such as watching videos, playing games, browsing etc. We're not using these things for high end computing or folding proteins etc. Just like a computer with a 12 core processor won't matter if you're still using HDD and not SSD. Or people who only care about the "horses" on a car and disregard the weight of the vehicle or its transmission etc. I don't think people understand the software possibilities of having hardware designed for "always-on" mode besides the touchless google now feature. I've tried installing a voice assistant like the one on Moto X from the play store and my battery died within a couple hours with the screen off. The X8 system is really redefining how conventional smartphones would work in the future once people realize the possibilities that can bring. Now whether or not you agree that your smartphone should always be on and listening/aware is a different debate.
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The phone isn't underpowered. Its GLBenchmark results are better than the SGS4 and HTC One. The CPU is two Krait 300 cores (which is the same as what's in the Snapdragon 600). With two cores disabled on the Nexus 4, the device runs just fine. If I can get this device for a good price, it will be my next phone.
I'll be the first to admit I wrong (there I said it). When I first heard the specs and price point, I figured Moto was doomed and their marketing gurus priced them right out of a comeback. Again, I was wrong.
Friday I picked up a Galaxy Mega 6.3 from AT&T and I took it back on Saturday afternoon. Very laggy (not as much as the S4 though), it was huge (and I'm a big guy at 6'3" 330lbs), the only thing I can say was good was the typing experience because I had so much room on the screen. But the phone was just too big, probably a great device in the end but just not for me.
Saturday afternoon I picked up the Black AT&T Moto X and this phone is fantastic and I don't say that about a lot of phones at all (I think the last time I said it was in 2007 when the first iPhone came out (yes I've used and respect all of the OS's, each has their own pluses and minuses) and before that, when the Moto Razr came out.
The phone feels perfect (IMO) in the hand, like Moto took the time to actually do the research with actual customers and see what they liked and didn't like and made change until they got it right. The 4.7" screen, in the same space as the iPhone 5 claims to only be able to fit 4", is great. Battery life is phenomenal (I'm not a heavy user but I never charged it out of the box and the charge that came on it lasted until it hit 4% this morning (Monday) when I got to the office at 6:30am. Build quality is great and believe me I have a mild case of OCD so I checked it out, buttons are nice with a definite tactile click to them (unlike the HTC One's power button that's almost always sunken in), buttons don't rattle (like they do on the S4 and the i5), soft touch material is great, screen is bright and not quite as SAMOLED'y as the S4 (again IMO) but marginally less impressive than the Super LCD3 on the HTC One. Focusing on day-to-day use and user experience, I have to admit I think it was the right way to go for a change.
There's more but I'm sure those of you that have one know what I'm talking about and those that don't, go try one out (at least if you're on AT&T for the moment here in the US), if you don't like it, return it but you might find yourself pleasantly surprised. I've only had it for two days but as right now, barring anything major popping up before the end of the next 10 days, I think this one is a keeper. And if this one develops an issue, I don't think I'd be getting anything else, I'd have this one DOA'ed and get another, it is really that good.
Excellent Job Google and Motorola on this one; very, very impressed.
A-Gon said:
I came from the N4, which totally sucked. I had to strain to hear people. The X has excellent call quality, earpiece and speaker volume.
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That's really good to know. I had a N4 for a week and absolutely loved it. I had the ticking sound in the earpiece when on a call and buzzing whenever the screen was on. I couldn't justify the money for such obvious design flaws. It is comforting knowing the X is better in this regards.
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I'll be the first to admit I wrong (there I said it). When I first heard the specs and price point, I figured Moto was doomed and their marketing gurus priced them right out of a comeback. Again, I was wrong.
Friday I picked up a Galaxy Mega 6.3 from AT&T and I took it back on Saturday afternoon. Very laggy (not as much as the S4 though), it was huge (and I'm a big guy at 6'3" 330lbs), the only thing I can say was good was the typing experience because I had so much room on the screen. But the phone was just too big, probably a great device in the end but just not for me.
Saturday afternoon I picked up the Black AT&T Moto X and this phone is fantastic and I don't say that about a lot of phones at all (I think the last time I said it was in 2007 when the first iPhone came out (yes I've used and respect all of the OS's, each has their own pluses and minuses) and before that, when the Moto Razr came out.
The phone feels perfect (IMO) in the hand, like Moto took the time to actually do the research with actual customers and see what they liked and didn't like and made change until they got it right. The 4.7" screen, in the same space as the iPhone 5 claims to only be able to fit 4", is great. Battery life is phenomenal (I'm not a heavy user but I never charged it out of the box and the charge that came on it lasted until it hit 4% this morning (Monday) when I got to the office at 6:30am. Build quality is great and believe me I have a mild case of OCD so I checked it out, buttons are nice with a definite tactile click to them (unlike the HTC One's power button that's almost always sunken in), buttons don't rattle (like they do on the S4 and the i5), soft touch material is great, screen is bright and not quite as SAMOLED'y as the S4 (again IMO) but marginally less impressive than the Super LCD3 on the HTC One. Focusing on day-to-day use and user experience, I have to admit I think it was the right way to go for a change.
There's more but I'm sure those of you that have one know what I'm talking about and those that don't, go try one out (at least if you're on AT&T for the moment here in the US), if you don't like it, return it but you might find yourself pleasantly surprised. I've only had it for two days but as right now, barring anything major popping up before the end of the next 10 days, I think this one is a keeper. And if this one develops an issue, I don't think I'd be getting anything else, I'd have this one DOA'ed and get another, it is really that good.
Excellent Job Google and Motorola on this one; very, very impressed.
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What device were you originally coming from? I'm coming from the HTC Vivid (I'm torn between trading it in for cash and shooting it out of a cannon)
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What device were you originally coming from? I'm coming from the HTC Vivid (I'm torn between trading it in for cash and shooting it out of a cannon)
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Recently I've had the SGS4, HTC One, iPhone 5 and the Optimus G Pro. User experience and build quality, the X wins and like I said in my post, I was not a believer of the X when I first heard about it but after trying it I'm am very pleasantly surprised. My suggestion again would be to try it and if after a week you aren't at least partially sold on it, take it back. There are definitely a lot of good choices out there right now, it's all about what works for you.
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Recently I've had the SGS4, HTC One, iPhone 5 and the Optimus G Pro. User experience and build quality, the X wins and like I said in my post, I was not a believer of the X when I first heard about it but after trying it I'm am very pleasantly surprised. My suggestion again would be to try it and if after a week you aren't at least partially sold on it, take it back. There are definitely a lot of good choices out there right now, it's all about what works for you.
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I plan on going motomaker, doubt there are refunds on that one.

Future HTC ONE User Question

Hello people!
The upcoming Friday my contract with my cell company expires so the company in order to convince me to sign a new contract is offering me:
HTC One or Sony XPERIA Z1.
Beeing for 5 years a user of various HTC devices I was pretty happy appart my latest HTC ONE X that spend last summer around 2 months in service changing twice mainboard and battery on warranty.
This last experience made me a bit skeptical about going along with the latest HTC device.
Are you happy with your HTC ONE?
Any significant problems you encountered?
Is the camera as bad on daylight as I read in the various reviews?
Do you think I should go with the ONE or maybe try something new with the Z1?
Thanks in advance for your help and feedback.
Cheers!
tasos12 said:
Hello people!
The upcoming Friday my contract with my cell company expires so the company in order to convince me to sign a new contract is offering me:
HTC One or Sony XPERIA Z1.
Beeing for 5 years a user of various HTC devices I was pretty happy appart my latest HTC ONE X that spend last summer around 2 months in service changing twice mainboard and battery on warranty.
This last experience made me a bit skeptical about going along with the latest HTC device.
Are you happy with your HTC ONE?
Any significant problems you encountered?
Is the camera as bad on daylight as I read in the various reviews?
Do you think I should go with the ONE or maybe try something new with the Z1?
Thanks in advance for your help and feedback.
Cheers!
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Z1. Without a doubt. Use the heck out of it for the 14 days so that you can return it if you don't like it though.
The One has a terrible camera. The Z1 doesn't have OIS, but it's better in almost every other regard unless you're a AL-phile or need stereo sound.
Seriously. There is absolutely no comparison between the One and the Z1. They are two different generations of phone and should be treated as such.
I don't like my One. It's not what it was advertised to be, and I wouldn't recommend anybody buy the H1 in light of recent phone announcements like the Z1 and the N1 and the N3 and the N5 and the G2 and the (?)S5. Wow. Those names doe.
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Z1. Without a doubt. Use the heck out of it for the 14 days so that you can return it if you don't like it though.
The One has a terrible camera. The Z1 doesn't have OIS, but it's better in almost every other regard unless you're a AL-phile or need stereo sound.
Seriously. There is absolutely no comparison between the One and the Z1. They are two different generations of phone and should be treated as such.
I don't like my One. It's not what it was advertised to be, and I wouldn't recommend anybody buy the H1 in light of recent phone announcements like the Z1 and the N1 and the N5 and the G2 and the (?)S5. Wow. Those names doe.
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I am not a great pictures fan.
To tell the truth I usually post some in facebook or Instagram but thats just about it.
I was pretty happy with my HTC ONE X camera but I guess the HTC ONE camera is worse from what you are saying.....
I kind of lost you with the AL acronym.
Can you explain what you mean by AL?
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Z1. Without a doubt. Use the heck out of it for the 14 days so that you can return it if you don't like it though.
The One has a terrible camera. The Z1 doesn't have OIS, but it's better in almost every other regard unless you're a AL-phile or need stereo sound.
Seriously. There is absolutely no comparison between the One and the Z1. They are two different generations of phone and should be treated as such.
I don't like my One. It's not what it was advertised to be, and I wouldn't recommend anybody buy the H1 in light of recent phone announcements like the Z1 and the N1 and the N5 and the G2 and the (?)S5. Wow. Those names doe.
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Lol, someone is having a bad day?
The fact you are having troubles with your HTC One, does not mean everyone does.
Yes, they are two different phones, but the speed difference is only noticable with really heavy games and benchmarks.
With day-to-day use, a person cannot tell the difference.
A bit more neutral non-biased oppinion;
If you look holding a premium device, that feels like a premium device, you can buy the HTC One.
There is not competition in terms of build quality, not a chance.
I'm a stock Android fan, but HTC has done a REALLY good job with Sense 5 (and an even better one with Sense 5.5).
The Snapdragon 600 will hold easily for the next two years..
I'd try them both, and my suggest, if you do not take the HTC One, take a look at the new Nexus.
Updates from Google, Snapdragon 800 and a nice looking phone (dunno about the build quality though).
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I am not a great pictures fan.
To tell the truth I usually post some in facebook or Instagram but thats just about it.
I was pretty happy with my HTC ONE X camera but I guess the HTC ONE camera is worse from what you are saying.....
I kind of lost you with the AL acronym.
Can you explain what you mean by AL?
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Al = Aluminum. And what Justin^^^ said is true. Suddenly, anything not made out of the finest materials feels cheap to me. In terms of premium feel, nothing can beat the One. It strikes all the right chords, and fits just right. And I do a lot of gaming on the One, and I actually DO see some lag, and its noticeable.
I maintain my position on the camera though. If you're looking for a camera that can capture any detail beyond the "with so and so at so and so", look elsewhere. But for just social media, this camera is fine. It won't perform in low light unless you get a perfect unit (unlikely), so don't count on that.
The Z1 has tons of cool stuff like SD, waterproof, dustproof, snapdragon 800, 20.7 MP camera, 3000 mAh battery etc. It comes down to this: do you want a premium feeling phone that performs adequately, or do you want a beast of a phone that looks and feels only slightly worse.
AL = Aluminum, H1 = HTC One, Z1 = Sony Xperia Z1, N1 = Oppo N1, N3 = Samsung Galaxy Note 3, N5 = Nexus 5, G2 = LG G2, S5 = Samsung Galaxy S5.
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Z1. Without a doubt. Use the heck out of it for the 14 days so that you can return it if you don't like it though.
The One has a terrible camera. The Z1 doesn't have OIS, but it's better in almost every other regard unless you're a AL-phile or need stereo sound.
Seriously. There is absolutely no comparison between the One and the Z1. They are two different generations of phone and should be treated as such.
I don't like my One. It's not what it was advertised to be, and I wouldn't recommend anybody buy the H1 in light of recent phone announcements like the Z1 and the N1 and the N3 and the N5 and the G2 and the (?)S5. Wow. Those names doe.
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Lol seriously ?
@ Op
Here small comparison just for you between the two
Soc = Xperia z1
Screen quality = HTC One
Sound via headphones = HTC One
Sound loudness & quality via speaker(s)= HTC - here is definetelly no comparison dual stereo speakers vs mono low quality/loudness speaker ..
Build quality = HTC One .. glass simply isn't better then aluminum
Front facing camera = HTC One
Rear facing camera = i don't know what to say here z1 with current firmware trully sux but i know it'll get better later so i'd say z1
Battery life = HTC One ..
Software = HTC One - The software is miles ahead of z1 and better optimised it's lagg/stutter free
Overall issues with the device are far less then with z1 , with 1 you can only get purple tint camera while z1 has issues pretty much with everything
As for the camera @ Op take a look at this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46539474&postcount=2955
HTC One - camera samples thread -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169626&page=296
Xperia z1 - camera samples thread -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2438859&page=43
Here the whole thread with bunch of photos so take a look a bit before you decide , take a look at z1 samples as well
That's pretty much how the camera works , if this isn't good enough for you and camera is priority for you got with z1
Lastly if you need any more insights about HTC One feel free to PM me i'd be happy to tell you more about it and give you more samples from my own camera if needed from any scenario also answer every question you got about HTC One.
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There is a sticky thread on top of this forum that reads "read before posting here". If you did, you would have noticed that we don't allow any comparison threads here for the reasons mentioned there.
So if you have a SPECIFIC question about a SPECIFIC difference between two phones, feel free to start a new thread with it. But please no general "Is the phone good and why?" or "Is the phone better than...."
Cheers

Underwhelmed by Nexus 5

Order Nexus 5 as soon as it came out. I had high hopes for N5 from what I see on the internet. Great hardware spec and rather handsome looking.
My previous android phones were Acer Liquid, HTC Sensation, and HTC One S. I was choosing between blue HTC One and white Nexus 5 to replace my One S. Nexus 5's price and top spec won out.
When I finally held it in my hand, I thought "Ok, it doesn't feel as solid compared to One S but still not bad".
Then I started playing with it. Very smooth and fast, and the screen is gorgeous!
But after a month with it, I have an itching regret about getting it.
First is the speaker...I am no audiophile but damn...N5's speaker is really bad compared to One S. I turned the volume down to the last volume step and it is still pretty loud for me. I even edited framework.jar to increase the volume steps from 7 to 15 but even after this, it still sounded the same at the last volume step. I think the sound range of N5 speaker is very limited or something. One S speaker was able to sound very quiet but still clear.
Second is the battery life...drains very fast compared to One S. This could be due to the Full HD screen of N5 or relatively new KitKat. Another interpretation would be...Google is more honest about reporting the true battery life
Third is the LED...I think N5 has the ugliest looking LED on a phone I have seen. It's hard to describe but it is not fully rounded and with some other color mixed in on the peripheral of the LED.
I hope I don't come off as blasting N5 but with N5, I can tolerate it but not love it like my previous phones. Probably the last time I will get a LG built Nexus...from what I gather N4 also had horrible speaker and not so stellar battery life.
But getting a Nexus is about getting the latest Android. I really hope Google will go with someone else for Nexus 6, or I hope HTC's next year flagship will sell well so that there is more developer support.
Bummer. I'm really happy with mine. Well good luck to you.
cant put mine down. really love how it looks and feels. also its super fast with the nova launcher.
Battery life is good to me. I'm all stock and not rooted. I will believe you have good battery life once I seen your screenshots from the HTC.
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Coming from a GS4 and never regretted the UPGRADE for a second
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No reason regretting your purchase. No one is ever stuck with a phone when they have one that is worth some money. Sell the N5 and you will make more than enough to get a HTC ONE or trade someone strait up. It sounds like you are a HTC fan and not really fond of stock android and that is okay.
Have you heard the speakers after the 4.4.2 update? They sound MUCH better to me.
Legit...
ausaras said:
Order Nexus 5 as soon as it came out. I had high hopes for N5 from what I see on the internet. Great hardware spec and rather handsome looking.
My previous android phones were Acer Liquid, HTC Sensation, and HTC One S. I was choosing between blue HTC One and white Nexus 5 to replace my One S. Nexus 5's price and top spec won out.
When I finally held it in my hand, I thought "Ok, it doesn't feel as solid compared to One S but still not bad".
Then I started playing with it. Very smooth and fast, and the screen is gorgeous!
But after a month with it, I have an itching regret about getting it.
First is the speaker...I am no audiophile but damn...N5's speaker is really bad compared to One S. I turned the volume down to the last volume step and it is still pretty loud for me. I even edited framework.jar to increase the volume steps from 7 to 15 but even after this, it still sounded the same at the last volume step. I think the sound range of N5 speaker is very limited or something. One S speaker was able to sound very quiet but still clear.
Second is the battery life...drains very fast compared to One S. This could be due to the Full HD screen of N5 or relatively new KitKat. Another interpretation would be...Google is more honest about reporting the true battery life
Third is the LED...I think N5 has the ugliest looking LED on a phone I have seen. It's hard to describe but it is not fully rounded and with some other color mixed in on the peripheral of the LED.
I hope I don't come off as blasting N5 but with N5, I can tolerate it but not love it like my previous phones. Probably the last time I will get a LG built Nexus...from what I gather N4 also had horrible speaker and not so stellar battery life.
But getting a Nexus is about getting the latest Android. I really hope Google will go with someone else for Nexus 6, or I hope HTC's next year flagship will sell well so that there is more developer support.
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Fair assessment as everyone is different. I think you should stick to HTC if you want excellent hardware. The Nexus program is all about software and how Google perceives what Android should be to the end user (speed, quick updates, no bloatware). There will always be sacrifices (hardware) to achieve the price point Google must accomplish. After the 4.4.1 or 4.4.2 depending when you received your OTA, the volume is quite loud but of course not as loud as the HTC One. The LED is brighter then the N4 version.
I'll trade straight up
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Fair assessment as everyone is different. I think you should stick to HTC if you want excellent hardware. The Nexus program is all about software and how Google perceives what Android should be to the end user (speed, quick updates, no bloatware). There will always be sacrifices (hardware) to achieve the price point Google must accomplish. After the 4.4.1 or 4.4.2 depending when you received your OTA, the volume is quite loud but of course not as loud as the HTC One. The LED is brighter then the N4 version.
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I have an HTC One (Verizon) that I dropped as soon as the Nexus 5 came out. There's no looking back for me, as I previously had a Nexus 4 and left it for the One. I'm back on T-Mobile, and back with the Nexus line, and I love it. So if you're really looking to dump your N5 and get back to HTC, send me a PM. I'll trade you straight up. My HTC One is Mint.
I've owned a few htc and samsung phones, also a galaxy nexus and a nexus 4, and for me the nexus 5 is the best device (looks+performance) i ever owned. Period.
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I somewhat agree with you. My first N5 had the speaker problem. I returned it and my replacement sounds good now. It is plenty loud, but I would like a little bit better sound quality. Instead of one speaker and one faux speaker, two speakers would have been nice. My battery lasts me all day with even heavy use. By far, the biggest battery hog is the screen. I use Lux for better brightness controls, and Tasker to turn on/off wifi, data, GPS, and other battery thieves automatically. See my screen shot.
As stated by others, having a Nexus is more about the operating system and not the hardware. I use a Nexus for all the custom mods and Roms. You can't have a better device than the latest Nexus for that.
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Order Nexus 5 as soon as it came out. I had high hopes for N5 from what I see on the internet. Great hardware spec and rather handsome looking.
My previous android phones were Acer Liquid, HTC Sensation, and HTC One S. I was choosing between blue HTC One and white Nexus 5 to replace my One S. Nexus 5's price and top spec won out.
When I finally held it in my hand, I thought "Ok, it doesn't feel as solid compared to One S but still not bad".
Then I started playing with it. Very smooth and fast, and the screen is gorgeous!
But after a month with it, I have an itching regret about getting it.
First is the speaker...I am no audiophile but damn...N5's speaker is really bad compared to One S. I turned the volume down to the last volume step and it is still pretty loud for me. I even edited framework.jar to increase the volume steps from 7 to 15 but even after this, it still sounded the same at the last volume step. I think the sound range of N5 speaker is very limited or something. One S speaker was able to sound very quiet but still clear.
Second is the battery life...drains very fast compared to One S. This could be due to the Full HD screen of N5 or relatively new KitKat. Another interpretation would be...Google is more honest about reporting the true battery life
Third is the LED...I think N5 has the ugliest looking LED on a phone I have seen. It's hard to describe but it is not fully rounded and with some other color mixed in on the peripheral of the LED.
I hope I don't come off as blasting N5 but with N5, I can tolerate it but not love it like my previous phones. Probably the last time I will get a LG built Nexus...from what I gather N4 also had horrible speaker and not so stellar battery life.
But getting a Nexus is about getting the latest Android. I really hope Google will go with someone else for Nexus 6, or I hope HTC's next year flagship will sell well so that there is more developer support.
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I was in your shoes.. Decided to let the N5 go.. And I was a big fan of the N4. The size, the feel in hand, the bad cracking speaker, I just wasn't happy with it.
ausaras said:
Order Nexus 5 as soon as it came out. I had high hopes for N5 from what I see on the internet. Great hardware spec and rather handsome looking.
My previous android phones were Acer Liquid, HTC Sensation, and HTC One S. I was choosing between blue HTC One and white Nexus 5 to replace my One S. Nexus 5's price and top spec won out.
When I finally held it in my hand, I thought "Ok, it doesn't feel as solid compared to One S but still not bad".
Then I started playing with it. Very smooth and fast, and the screen is gorgeous!
But after a month with it, I have an itching regret about getting it.
First is the speaker...I am no audiophile but damn...N5's speaker is really bad compared to One S. I turned the volume down to the last volume step and it is still pretty loud for me. I even edited framework.jar to increase the volume steps from 7 to 15 but even after this, it still sounded the same at the last volume step. I think the sound range of N5 speaker is very limited or something. One S speaker was able to sound very quiet but still clear.
Second is the battery life...drains very fast compared to One S. This could be due to the Full HD screen of N5 or relatively new KitKat. Another interpretation would be...Google is more honest about reporting the true battery life
Third is the LED...I think N5 has the ugliest looking LED on a phone I have seen. It's hard to describe but it is not fully rounded and with some other color mixed in on the peripheral of the LED.
I hope I don't come off as blasting N5 but with N5, I can tolerate it but not love it like my previous phones. Probably the last time I will get a LG built Nexus...from what I gather N4 also had horrible speaker and not so stellar battery life.
But getting a Nexus is about getting the latest Android. I really hope Google will go with someone else for Nexus 6, or I hope HTC's next year flagship will sell well so that there is more developer support.
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Well.... in regards to the feel of the phone.... a lot of people went with the black N5, simply because of the different back panel. The white N5's panel is more of a smooth plastic, whereas the black is what i can best describe as slightly rubberized. Does feel quite nice, at least to me, coming from a Motorola Atrix 4g and a Galaxy S3.
As for the built-in speaker.... it's rare to find a phone where they're reasonable.... HTC One aside. It only has one tiny speaker, but still sounds FAR better than my GS3 and Atrix did. But i don't really use the speaker for much... so that doesn't really bother me.
Battery life.... i dunno... i have to say i think it does fairly well. Lasts a fair bit longer than my S3 did with similar usage, and even on the stock ROM.
As for the LED.... it IS "fully rounded"... it just has a bit of a dithered outside edge. I'm assuming that's to try and make it appear as less of a beacon of light in a dark room when it's flashing (Like my S3's notification LED was). As for "colors mixed in along the edge".... uuh.... you DO understand how RGB LED's work, right? They essentially have three semiconductor sets that, when current is applied, light up in a different color. One red, one blue, one green. Which is usually why they can only really do variations on those three colors very well... not so much with a custom color. If you look at the LED when it's trying to recreate "white".... you'll see that around the edge, it looks like there's some red, green, and blue there, too. That's because there is. It's how they create white light with RGB LED's. It's probably not really visible on some other phones because they probably do more to hide the outside edges of the LED. Kinda like how HTC seems to have a thing for hiding it in the speaker/headphone grille.
I feel like a lot of people are buying this phone without doing enough homework to know what they're purchasing. If you've actually read a couple reviews of the phone or spent any amount of time in these forums, there should be absolutely no surprises. Either know what you're spending your $400 on or don't complain when it doesn't live up to your uninformed expectations.
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I feel like a lot of people are buying this phone without doing enough homework to know what they're purchasing. If you've actually read a couple reviews of the phone or spent any amount of time in these forums, there should be absolutely no surprises. Either know what you're spending your $400 on or don't complain when it doesn't live up to your uninformed expectations.
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That's why it was better when carriers didn't sell the nexus. Nobody out of the development world knew about them
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They are entitled to their gripes as you are your praises......all 502 of them....Do we need as many of those types of posts as well? This is the daily internet, why so surprised? Anyway, I see no big deal that OP is underwhelmed, just sharing is opinion. And he gave his reasons. Not everyone is going to like the same things. You internet people need to relax a little. Or not. Your choice. Stress free is the way to be, high five
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Coming from a GS4 and never regretted the UPGRADE for a second
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Had a GS4 too with a 64gb micro-SD, I was a little apprehensive at first, mostly due to the storage downgrade. But now, having my N5 for about 3 weeks, I don't regret it at all.
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They are entitled to their gripes as you are your praises......all 502 of them....Do we need as many of those types of posts as well? This is the daily internet, why so surprised? Anyway, I see no big deal that OP is underwhelmed, just sharing is opinion. And he gave his reasons. Not everyone is going to like the same things. You internet people need to relax a little. Or not. Your choice. Stress free is the way to be, high five
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My point is that if you actually do your research before dropping a few hundred bucks and know what you're getting into BEFOREHAND (y'know, making a purchase as an informed consumer), it's pretty much a guarantee that you won't be underwhelmed or disappointed. Just sayin'.
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My point is that if you actually do your research before dropping a few hundred bucks and know what you're getting into BEFOREHAND (y'know, making a purchase as an informed consumer), it's pretty much a guarantee that you won't be underwhelmed or disappointed. Just sayin'.
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To be fair, LG is having problems with quality control, and they also did do a sloppy job with the hardware design both which is causing quite a number of people to complain about the vibration loudness and lack of feedback which seems to worsen over time, and piping sound of the speakers and glue muffling the sound. Not to mention the issues with audio quality pointed out by Anandtech. These are things that can't be excused by the N5's low cost. The N5 does have the worst screen out of all the Android flagships with its crappy diagonal viewing angles, but better panels do cost more.
Anyway, I am happy with my Nexus 5, but any brand does have its fanboys, and they praise their brand and its products to the point of delusion the Nexus line is no exception. What I do find annoying are the clowns frowning on "newbs" and whining about how the Nexus line is only "understood" by developers and should be exclusive to developers. What a load of garbage...
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To be fair, LG is having problems with quality control, and they also did do a sloppy job with the hardware design both which is causing quite a number of people to complain about the vibration loudness and lack of feedback which seems to worsen over time, and piping sound of the speakers and glue muffling the sound. Not to mention the issues with audio quality pointed out by Anandtech. These are things that can't be excused by the N5's low cost. The N5 does have the worst screen out of all the Android flagships with its crappy diagonal viewing angles, but better panels do cost more.
Anyway, I am happy with my Nexus 5, but any brand does have its fanboys, and they praise their brand and its products to the point of delusion the Nexus line is no exception. What I do find annoying are the clowns frowning on "newbs" and whining about how the Nexus line is only "understood" by developers and should be exclusive to developers. What a load of garbage...
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Again, absolutely none of this is a surprise if you educate yourself about the product you're buying. It has nothing to do with fanboyism.
I will say, though, that I totally disagree with your assessment of the screen. I don't have a single use case that requires me to view the phone diagonally and off-axis. Viewing angles are great from the sides, top, and bottom, and that's all I need. To each his own.
You guys fail to realize this is a cheaply made $350 device. Stop comparing it to devices double the price
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Why should I buy Xperia X Performance?

I have been a big fan of Xperia Z series since the first Z. I changed my phone every time the new Z came out (except Z1 since I just started my career life without much savings).
Every time the new Z came out, I could find its awesomeness, imo, for example the first Z was stylish, waterproof, and powerful but it suffers a lot from heat,washed out display, and loosen waterproof charging caps. Then Z1 came out with more charming metal body, magnetic charging port, and 20 Mpixels camera, highest for a smartphone at the time.
Z2 came out as what the first Z should be at the first place with bigger and vivid screen, stereo speakers, and battery life is awesome to the point that I never found any others with this battery longevity at the time . For Z3, is almost identical to Z2 in term of spec sheet but I found it's very nice to hold in my hand plus the speaker is a lot better, far better than even Z5.
Z4 was very good on the spec sheet, especially with no more microusb cap but the battery life is a very big disappointment with almost half what Z3 lasts. It also suffers a lot of heat from normal uses. Z5 premium is, imo, the most refined Xperia with decent battery life, big screen, stylish material and colors selection.
Also, I don't know if it's me alone but every time I got the new Xperia on my hand, I felt really good and every single one of them was attractive.
Strangely, I can't explain but when I hold X/XP on on my hand, I didn't feel a thing, not even a glimpse of attractiveness although my country is offered 64GB/dual sims variant at the same price as Galaxy S7 (32GB/dual sims variant) with contract. I was never really into Samsung before (not because I hate it but I just neither found it attractive) but this time, I event think of waiting for Note7.
What are you guys' opinions? What are your before and after buying feelings toward X Performance?
How I've tired from this speech. Shut up and go to gnusmas, apple, htc, moto/lenovo, xiaomi, zte, huawei and where u want! DON'T BUY SONY! Moaner!
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How I've tired from this speech. Shut up and go to gnusmas, apple, htc, moto/lenovo, xiaomi, zte, huawei and where u want! DON'T BUY SONY! Moaner!
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Thanks a lot for your opinion. Actually I was about to buy XP. The price without contract is very high but the price with contract is acceptable. The plan that I will have to pay for is quite similar to what I currently use but I have to stay with it for a whole year. That's why I ask foy you guys' opinion at the first place. Because I love Xperia but this time I'm not really sure if it worth changing (not in term of spec sheet but your real experience of using it.
It seems you are extremely not appreciate the question but you made a good answer anyway. If a current user doesn't have such a good thing about it to say but purely throwing back a bad temper. It absolutely clarifies my answer.
If you are a dual sim user, you should note that the S7 forces the 2nd sim to be in 2G mode when the 1st sim is in 4G/3G, and vice versa.
On the other hand, the XP allows the 2nd sim to be in 3G-voice standby when the 1st sim is in 4G/3G. This functionality is important for countries like Korea or Japan which no longer have 2G, or countries like Singapore, Australia or USA which are going to shutdown their 2G networks soon. The other phones such as Mi5, Moto G4, Zuk Z2/Pro, etc which support this feature are from Chinese OEMs.
Another advantage the XP has over the S7 is Sony's willingness to allowing unlocking of the bootloader.
Im also considering getting a XP but with its cost here in the Philippines, i might get a S7 or a Z5.
I always look at the batt first, then the speakers, then the cam, then lastly the specs.
Get the sony xperia x performance. Hope getting a blazingly fast phone with a processor that snap dragon actually really refined and improved with a bigger jump than previous iterations.
Your being the best camera in a smart phone and one of the best android UIs on the market. And a nice phone that isn't riddled by logos. It's Sonys best. Everything you need nothing you don't. And the best waterproofing.
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^ I've been backreading the XP thread for quite some time now. How's the batt life and the speakers?
i bought mine for good stereo speakers screen size ,can change os if needed, underwater just in case , didn't but HTC cause is was to big and clumsy for me and mini specs wasn't the same at all
but sony dont have same and good speakers anymore
my last phone was twice louder and more bass (wt19i walkman)
but i would've wait for XP is about 50% different from Z5's( i have z5c) 80K and antutu against 120K (XP) and more 200$ bit didn't know how much it would take and my phone was really slow and old 6-5year old
btw Regular Xperia X is less fast than Z5's
anyway it was BIG different from my old sony (LWW wt19i) 10K score 700% LOL.... 1100% could be nicer.. but
to the point if you have Z5 dont buy the XP phone up to 40-60% overall performance does not worth spend another 750US$
The XP is waterproof, you have to get the S7 active of you want that feature, which is locked to AT&T in the US and is priced about 25% more than the XP. That made my choice pretty simple.
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I had XPERIA Z5 and bought XPERIA X Performance. This is the best Sony phone to date with no good battery life (battery life is better then one on XPERIA Z5 at the moment). Only reason to buy XPERIA X Performance if you already have XPERIA Z5 is because of heat. XPERIA X Performance only heats when using camera longer or if you play games too long and now in Croatia outside temperature is about 35 C. So if the heat is your reason buy it. Otherwise don't buy it. But if you have some older phone you should buy it.
About swiching to Samsung instead I don't know. I am not Samsung fun because of their UI.
Coming from z1c, z3c, z5c to now owning the XP for less then a week.
Before the XP the z5c was a let down compared to its predecessor the z3c. Particularly in general performance but moreover the lacklustre camera performance (the plagued 810 chip didn't help the Z5 line.)
Now, the XP.
Hands down is a far more refined device. As refined as the z3c. The performance is lightning - thanks to the 820 chip and the extra GB ram (3gb.)
Coupled with the lightning performance on the camera FUNCTIONALITY (I'm not stating the QUALITY of the Shots are the best - however the quality is drastically better then the z5c predecessor.)
But what I am stating is that the camera responds and opens and takes pictures faster then on any Sony I've played with (those of you coming from the z5 line know exactly what I'm on about.)
For instance, from standby/sleep mode. As long as the camera settings are preset to 'Launch & Capture.' Then when taking a picture from standby you will notice the picture that has been captured is of that instance of when you clicked the camera button... Although the UI hasn't even rendered. Try this with a moving object and you will notice how frkin fast the capture time is.
Again not professing the QUALITY of the Shots are superior, but simply that the function of the camera is now quite sublime.
The XP works VERY VERY WELL, overall outstanding performance. Yes it will have its niggles. But generally it's the best of what Sony have been trying to achieve.
I don't care for 4k video capture. Nor a 4k or QHD screen. This 1080p is more then ample for a phone. For me coming from the zCompact series (720p screens), this XP screen is amazing and more then enough.
I am very pleased with this device.
The only drawback is the lacklustre Sony Stamina mode. But this is almost not there fault. For OEMs to provide Android phones officially they must adopt key features from Google's updates, hence Sony HAD to employ Google Doze feautre, in this forced effort they clearly couldn't employ Sony's native Stamina Mode (succesfully at least) in the way we'd been accustomed to especially on the z3 line (you can imagine Doze and Sony Stamina not working happily hand in hand, as they both in essence are trying to achieve the same thing, albeit Sony Stamina Mode was far superior.)
Just my 2cents on anyone fighting with Sony Stamina Mode.
Fantastic device.
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I agree with every word you wrote.
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I agree with every word you wrote.
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Having read through the XP forum here, and then this thread, I felt some '1st Hand Heritage Sony User' experience and comprehension was required.
I also can attest that the fingerprint sensor on the XP is insanely faster then the z5c. Wasn't expecting it to be quite this responsive. Impresses on that front too.
Sony UI is second to the Nexus Line. That's a fact.
As good as Samsung's hardware is, there software is like a step backwards from Androids look/feel. Whereas Sony manage to keep the look/feel impressively Stock (replace Sony Launcher with Nova all day everyday, and I don't think you would notice much difference between a Nexus user experience and the Sony User' experience - again this is from my 1st hand experience.)
1 niggle I've noticed, actually since the z3 line, is that the WiFi signal has typically got poorer over longer distance from the WiFi router.
I can achieve a better WiFi signal on my z3c then I can on my z5c and XP.
This thread should be changed to 'Why wouldn't you buy the XP?' ?
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I've been a Sony Fanboy since the Release of the Xperia S, I owned the SP, the ZR bought the Z1 Compact as well and finally the Z3 Compact and I must say they did really well on those devices, especially the Z3 Compact. But looking at the X Performance, I think they're just trying too hard, the price tag to begin with doesn't even look welcoming at 700 Dollars for a phone without any fingerprint scanner, and the battery life isn't any good as well reading from numerous reviews which compares it to the previous flagship the Z5. For now I have my eyes set either on the S6 or the One M9, especially the M9. Those boomsound speakers sound better than Sony's speakers any time.
This is just my opinion tho, If coming from the Z3 Device line, stick with your Z3 and wait for newer models. The Z3 is by far one of the best Sony Z Line phones, stable, doesn't overheat and an active community to keep it going.
So true RE Z3 as the standout of all Sony's.
When it comes to a price war, then yes, the XP price is very overzealous. Can't argue there.
But i find when it comes to a User requiring the 3 points below (such as myself, typically coming from Sony's compact range):
1. Comfortable 1 handed ergonomics.
2. Up to date hardware
3. a Nexus like - look & feel (an unadulterated Android experience.)
Then I conclude the XP is at the forefront in this regard.
Personnel preferences as always ?
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Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the HTC U Ultra, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the HTC U Ultra is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I just got my black HTC U Ultra and I am loving it so far. Of course I am still in the honeymoon phase with the ultra, so here are my first thoughts:
This is a great phone for people that like phablets and don't want to use phones with different aspect ratios, like the S8 and the LG G6.
The display is amazing and I prefer it to AMOLED displays. The camera is better than the one found in the HTC 10 and the second display is very useful to me. I love how notifications appear in the second display.
Audio quality is excellent and battery life is very good, despite the relatively small battery installed.
The design is great and the black model doesn't show any fingerprints.
The only thing I don't like is that the bottom speaker on the left side is. I would prefer to have it on the bottom right.
Overall I am happy with the Ultra and I don't understand the bad reviews. This device deserves more.
Hi all,
I had my M8 for a little over 3 years and loved it but decided I wanted a new phone and at first was drawn to the Pixel XL but there was something that just didn't feel right about it to me really not sure what it was but it was there. Also I really don't like AMOLED screens despite what the majority seem to feel so that was another thing that drew me to the U Ultra. I manged to get an awesome deal on a 2 day old Black U Ultra although I think I would of still got one even if I had to pay full price to me HTC just build awesome phones and this one doesn't disappoint on build quality either. The screen really is just beautiful and no sign of light bleeding anywhere and I use mine of full brightness nearly all of the time and with very dark based wallpapers to. I am finding the 2nd display to be really useful and a good addition and also don't get all the negative reviews and general hate that so many are giving for this phone. I chose this over any of the other so called flagship phones and have no regrets at all and seriously don't get all the fuss made about only having a Snapdragon 821 as I really think the differences between it and the 835 are going to be so slight as not to not really be worth worrying about. Same goes for the battery size non issue IMO as I'm sure everyone would be complaining about how much heavier the phone would be with a larger battery and the fact it has fast charging sort of negates this issue to IMO plus it easily lasts me a day anyway.
Marc
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I just got my black HTC U Ultra and I am loving it so far. Of course I am still in the honeymoon phase with the ultra, so here are my first thoughts:
This is a great phone for people that like phablets and don't want to use phones with different aspect ratios, like the S8 and the LG G6.
The display is amazing and I prefer it to AMOLED displays. The camera is better than the one found in the HTC 10 and the second display is very useful to me. I love how notifications appear in the second display.
Audio quality is excellent and battery life is very good, despite the relatively small battery installed.
The design is great and the black model doesn't show any fingerprints.
The only thing I don't like is that the bottom speaker on the left side is. I would prefer to have it on the bottom right.
Overall I am happy with the Ultra and I don't understand the bad reviews. This device deserves more.
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I was going to leave a review.. but youve said everything I wanted too.. so.. Yes its awesome and why the hate is beyond me, but you know... strange how everyone bashes the U Ultra for its so-called waste of space... yet funny how no-one bashes the ugly looking Google Pixel / Pixel XL for its huge frame and big "wasted" bezel chins .. or the iPhone for their chins / bezels, sounds childish doesnt it......... thats because it is, but its the fashion
My only complaint is, no not the USB headphones, but that, at this price, HTC didnt include a £1 ( $2 ) USB-C - 3.5 mm adaptor in the box.
Im afraid, at the moment.. HTC and the U Ultra are "in Vogue" to hate on and bash, but no doubt, it'll be Huaweis turn next year
I do love my U Ultra
After 2 months of use, i can say this is one of the best smartphone this year. Im changing phones like socks, the last one was oneplus 3t,and i can say htc u beats him in all parameters. The battery life is better than oneplus 3450 ma battery, the camera at the top only i iPhone 7s beats him(and i had it to) sense is the best android launcher and os ever, the only bad thing is the down bottoms that are to close to the edge and it is hard to get used to it. Overall 9/10 points to htc u ultra!
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Greetings everyone.
I thought I'd share my $.02 with you regarding the Ultra. This past year I've owned a 1+2, a Nexus 6, a 1+3T and now this. I honestly don't get the negative reviews. It's super fast, the built quality is great, the screen is awesome, the battery lasts a day (or about 4,5 sot) which is the same as the 1+3T used to. The second screen is quite useful and I don't give a rat's ass if it was originally seen on an LG. The sound is very good although it could do with stereo speakers while IMHO the Sense UI is light years ahead that of Samsung or LG.
I also bought it for 400 euros which is a bargain considering 1+3Ts are going over here for 470 brand new even at this moment.
My only complaint is that you can't charge and use the headphones at the same time, but what the heck. I'd also like to see more custom ROMs for this great device.
Anyone having second thoughts or being troubled by reviews, don't be mistaken: the U ultra is one hell of a phablet with certain features you won't find elsewhere. Just look for the right price.
I kinda love mine as well. I've never had a HTC before but I am pretty sure this wont be the last one
Hi people
thank you all , your comments was useful , i have question
which is better ? HTC u ultra , j7 pro , mi a1
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Hallo people. I have now Htc u ultra 128GB and i wanna share you pros and cons.
pros:
build quality (without cases)
speakers
cameras
screen colors
speed
fast charge time (15%-100% 1h:30m)
no heating
high Memory storage
cons:
it is so big
battery life is weak for me
htc has no my own Georgian language (but in 8.0 update they say will be)
it is little heavy
i had early time Oneplus 3T and battery life was just amazing. htc u ultra 3000 mAh is so bad if you are a gamer, or using 4G, or often taking pictures and videos. should be 3500 mAh. i am everyday charging my phone. but Oneplus 3T has metal body and it was heating so much, then was lagg
Can anyone share how is the sound quality/loudness through headphones?
Especially loudness.
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Can anyone share how is the sound quality/loudness through headphones?
Especially loudness.
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I'm quite impressed by the quality of the sound through the supplied headphones. Granted, they aren't studio monitors or $300 Sennheiser's, but if you run the app to tune the sound to your ears, they are pretty good. I haven't tried them at full volume, but just to the limit where Android gives you the pop up about loud music. All in all, 4/5.
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I've only had my U Ultra for just over a day, and I'm quite impressed with it. This isn't my first HTC (first was the Amaze 4G), and aside from the disappointing m8 that I had, HTC keeps making underrated flagships. I'm surprised how little fanfare this phone has gotten, despite having the best camera I've used in a smartphone (even using an iPhone 6S for a time). When Oreo does come to us, then this should be an even better phone!
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I'm quite impressed by the quality of the sound through the supplied headphones. Granted, they aren't studio monitors or $300 Sennheiser's, but if you run the app to tune the sound to your ears, they are pretty good. I haven't tried them at full volume, but just to the limit where Android gives you the pop up about loud music. All in all, 4/5.
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I've only had my U Ultra for just over a day, and I'm quite impressed with it. This isn't my first HTC (first was the Amaze 4G), and aside from the disappointing m8 that I had, HTC keeps making underrated flagships. I'm surprised how little fanfare this phone has gotten, despite having the best camera I've used in a smartphone (even using an iPhone 6S for a time). When Oreo does come to us, then this should be an even better phone!
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You used the stock camera app?
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You used the stock camera app?
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Yes, so far. I've just played around in the settings, and haven't really taken any pics, aside from just playing around. In the next few days, I plan on putting the camera through some rigorous tests. I'm kind of eager to see how shooting in RAW on a phone is...

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