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One of my last hang ups on getting the Nexus 6 is how it will handle notifications. I know it will have Ambient Display, but from what I have been able to read, its not going to pulse like the Active Display of the normal Moto phones. Has anyone seen how the Nexus 6 will handle notifications yet?
This is exactly what I'm trying to find out, i keep checking all the unboxing and first hands on video and reviews
and they just keep talking about the size, specs and camera, i might have to pass on this nexus if it doesn't pulse in some form, i just can always keep picking up my phone check for a message.
Yep. If it doesn't pulse or blink or something, it will be a poor choice. Knowing you have a notification from across the room or in a dark room, is one of the things I like about 95% of Android phones.
The last phone I had without an LED light was the GS2, and I had to use other means.
It seems like such a simple request for anyone with the phone to check as well. Every unboxing and first impressions video I have watched (far too many) have all said that "it has moto x like notifications and that's a good thing" but every time they show the settings it doesn't indicate that it pulses or breathes. I was hoping that DL would have answered this question when they got their test units, but even they haven't yet.
I'm pretty sure Google knows it's silly to send a visible notification only once. I'm confident they've incorporated some form of pulse or renotification of some kind. Fingers crossed
In any case if it is or not just remember this. ITS A SOFTWARE FEATURE.
I mean come on guys, we are XDA. If its not perfect I am sure one or some of us here will be able to modify the feature to allow whatever we want. The feature is baked into 5.0 android now and is Open, all we have to do is work on a expanded settings system to customize it if it already does not have one. Hell if Xposed gets properly ported to ART we can surely see a module for it!
Stop acting like its the end of the world if it does/doesn't have the exact feature of software design as the Moto X. Its a software feature and if demand needs it I am sure we will find a way to make it happen. Have faith in XDA and the Developers.
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In any case if it is or not just remember this. ITS A SOFTWARE FEATURE.
I mean come on guys, we are XDA. If its not perfect I am sure one or some of us here will be able to modify the feature to allow whatever we want. The feature is baked into 5.0 android now and is Open, all we have to do is work on a expanded settings system to customize it if it already does not have one. Hell if Xposed gets properly ported to ART we can surely see a module for it!
Stop acting like its the end of the world if it does/doesn't have the exact feature of software design as the Moto X. Its a software feature and if demand needs it I am sure we will find a way to make it happen. Have faith in XDA and the Developers.
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Its definitely not the end of the world. I'm not being dramatic and condemning the phone if it doesn't have it. Just looking for an answer to what I hope Google realizes is a basic need. I've been rooting and roming since the OG Droid days here so I know what XDA can do, I just don't believe this is a feature that I should need to rely on the Devs here to create.
First of all, it's something you can turn off. So if it doesn't work the way you want it to you don't have to use it.
Google is also pushing Android Wear which makes anything like Moto Display (ie Active Display) pointless cause you can see it on your wrist faster anyway.
Nickcu13 said:
First of all, it's something you can turn off. So if it doesn't work the way you want it to you don't have to use it.
Google is also pushing Android Wear which makes anything like Moto Display (ie Active Display) pointless cause you can see it on your wrist faster anyway.
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Not everybody can afford a $250 "wear" on top of their phone purchase though.
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Not everybody can afford a $250 "wear" on top of their phone purchase though.
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Or want to. I really have no desire to spend $250 on a watch that I have to replace every couple years because it becomes obsolete or the battery is well beyond is usefully life.
ABOsborn20 said:
Or want to. I really have no desire to spend $250 on a watch that I have to replace every couple years because it becomes obsolete or the battery is well beyond is usefully life.
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The battery on the G watch is really great actually.
And if you don't want Android wear, don't buy it. But that's where Google is going so some features that used to be present on phones that aren't as necessary now will potentially be removed.
Ambient display on N6 works similar to Moto X. It will pulse when the notification arrives. After that it will pulse every few minutes, in an adaptive time period - the longer you don't pick it up, the period between pulses will increase.
And of course custom rom's will be able to tweak this, I hope.
ECrispy said:
Ambient display on N6 works similar to Moto X. It will pulse when the notification arrives. After that it will pulse every few minutes, in an adaptive time period - the longer you don't pick it up, the period between pulses will increase.
And of course custom rom's will be able to tweak this, I hope.
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This sounds perfect. Do you have a source for this or speculation?
ABOsborn20 said:
This sounds perfect. Do you have a source for this or speculation?
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Its from the AndroidPolice hands on which is one of the most detailed ones.
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Its from the AndroidPolice hands on which is one of the most detailed ones.
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Are you referring to this article: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...-googles-nexus-6-really-big-really-beautiful/
I don't see anything about Active Display there...
Does anyone know if it has the IR sensors on the screen to wake the display up with a hand gesture just like it happens on the Moto X?
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Are you referring to this article: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...-googles-nexus-6-really-big-really-beautiful/
I don't see anything about Active Display there...
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Yes. It's in the comments, the author replied to a question about Active Display.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TyhaOjME5g
Droid Life showing a video of the notifications. I can see why the battery savings aren't as big as they would be on Active Display
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TyhaOjME5g
Droid Life showing a video of the notifications. I can see why the battery savings aren't as big as they would be on Active Display
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Seems very unreliable, he had to try multiple times. Also why is pick up to activate so unreliable?
I really wish they'd copied the Moto version and added the sensors.
this seems like it will just nuke the battery in comparison to an LED.... I may end up just leaving this off.
won't this turn on constantly in a pocket as well?
Do you guys think they will finally smooth out and actually put a little better production into their main functioning apps?
I am so ready to switch to a stock rom for this thing due to touch-wiz being so horrible in some areas.
In what areas do you find TouchWiz horrible on the Note 4? I have zero problems with it.
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Do you guys think they will finally smooth out and actually put a little better production into their main functioning apps?
I am so ready to switch to a stock rom for this thing due to touch-wiz being so horrible in some areas.
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Explain yourself
dkb218 said:
In what areas do you find TouchWiz horrible on the Note 4? I have zero problems with it.
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The recent apps taking over a second to load.
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The recent apps taking over a second to load.
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Not here and oh no over a second what will you do
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The recent apps taking over a second to load.
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Just like my S5, but what's wierd was I added soft keys on my s5 by qemu.mainkeys=0 on the build prop for on screen button and for some reason the on screen buttons were instant/fast but the hard keys took 1 second to load....
For some reason I can't add oncreen buttons on the stock or custom roms like I can with EVERY android phone I ever owned
The dialer is gross, the stick I'm ap o for Samsung is buggy and choppy, thankfully I found textra, this app is weird with scrolling, it takes sometimes 10 seconds for a phone call to connect, the multi window does take a long time to load at times can get annoying when I'm trying to do someth u ng in a hurry. The notification bar when you are using a 3rd party keyboard it stays there also indo b t like how the quick settings constantly show at the top of the notification bar takes up space and I'm always activating or deactivating by mistake.
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The recent apps taking over a second to load.
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I guess this is the world we live it. I WANT IT NOW!!! NOT IN A SECOND!!! NOW!!! I MUST HAVE IT NOW!!!!
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The dialer is gross, the stick I'm ap o for Samsung is buggy and choppy, thankfully I found textra, this app is weird with scrolling, it takes sometimes 10 seconds for a phone call to connect, the multi window does take a long time to load at times can get annoying when I'm trying to do someth u ng in a hurry. The notification bar when you are using a 3rd party keyboard it stays there also indo b t like how the quick settings constantly show at the top of the notification bar takes up space and I'm always activating or deactivating by mistake.
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What?
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Not here and oh no over a second what will you do
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Lololol oh no!! A whole second.. lol i found if a person freezes or deletes svoice recents seem to open faster, that being said Some people just dont get touchwiz, i dont find it super stunning to look at but its the features, the camera, noone else can touch it on features. I never understood why people who hate twiz buy a samsung. I enjoy knowing i have the option of aosp(since lollipop has been booting for a few days already), but dont.buy samsun g if you hate their skin you know? People always like to find things to ***** about is the bottomline.
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Lololol oh no!! A whole second.. lol i found if a person freezes or deletes svoice recents seem to open faster, that being said Some people just dont get touchwiz, i dont find it super stunning to look at but its the features, the camera, noone else can touch it on features. I never understood why people who hate twiz buy a samsung. I enjoy knowing i have the option of aosp(since lollipop has been booting for a few days already), but dont.buy samsun g if you hate their skin you know? People always like to find things to ***** about is the bottomline.
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^^^^^^ THAT!
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^^^^^^ THAT!
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I bought this over the N6 because of hardware. N6 is also a little bigger. This phone is perfect for me, however Samsung upped the Ram to 3gb yet I feel like I have less ram to work with. TW is incredibly slugish after using 5.0 on my N5. I honestly feel like the N5 out performs this Note 4 thru daily activities.
I wanted note 4 hardware with pure aosp. TW is bloated with a ton of useless garbage.
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I bought this over the N6 because of hardware. N6 is also a little bigger. This phone is perfect for me, however Samsung upped the Ram to 3gb yet I feel like I have less ram to work with. TW is incredibly slugish after using 5.0 on my N5. I honestly feel like the N5 out performs this Note 4 thru daily activities.
I wanted note 4 hardware with pure aosp. TW is bloated with a ton of useless garbage.
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I've had pretty much every nexus device, but last year I decided to get myself an Iphone 6, but I really missed android, so I'm about to get the nexus 6 but some issues are keeping me from doing it, I've read quite a few reviews and I'm concerned about the following issues:
1. Why is the camera so slow to take pictures? You think it could improve in the future? That's probably the thing I like the most about the iphone 6, how good the pictures come and how the camera is blazing fast
2. Is it true that the device is slower than the nexus 5? Have updates improved this situation? My nexus 5 already stuttered with Lollipop, Ive read quite a few reports about the phone slowing down and lagging for no apparent reason (except for maybe the quadHD killing the cpu/gpu)
3. How true are the reports of screen burn in?
4. How do non google apps and icons look? I imagine pretty bad since facebook or instagram's icons haven't even been updated to take advantage of a 1080p screen
5. Is it true that the device has slow storage a step down from the nexus reading and writing speeds?
Thanks for your help
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I've had pretty much every nexus device, but last year I decided to get myself an Iphone 6, but I really missed android, so I'm about to get the nexus 6 but some issues are keeping me from doing it, I've read quite a few reviews and I'm concerned about the following issues:
1. Why is the camera so slow to take pictures? You think it could improve in the future? That's probably the thing I like the most about the iphone 6, how good the pictures come and how the camera is blazing fast
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The actual act of taking a picture is fast, its just focusing that is slow. If you focus manually or fixed, it will take pictures amazingly fast.
2. Is it true that the device is slower than the nexus 5? Have updates improved this situation? My nexus 5 already stuttered with Lollipop, Ive read quite a few reports about the phone slowing down and lagging for no apparent reason (except for maybe the quadHD killing the cpu/gpu)
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Not at all true.
3. How true are the reports of screen burn in?
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Completely imaginary.
4. How do non google apps and icons look? I imagine pretty bad since facebook or instagram's icons haven't even been updated to take advantage of a 1080p screen
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Where are you coming up with these questions? The only icon I've seen that actually looks bad, is the one for my bank... and it looks bad on ANY screen. Screen resolution is not so tightly tied to "icons" -- bigger screen = more icons. Also, Nexus 5 was already a 1080p display. I also hardly consider this question to be meaningful. Who really cares what icons look like? The objective is to maximize USEFULNESS.
5. Is it true that the device has slow storage a step down from the nexus reading and writing speeds?
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No. Flash storage is blazingly fast on this device, HOWEVER, the "default configuration" enables data partition encryption by force, which reduces the EFFECTIVE flash performance to nexus 5 level (which is still very good). Simple adjustment to a text file on the boot partition allows this to be disabled. It is also probable/possible that Google will be enabling hardware crypto on the next update.
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The actual act of taking a picture is fast, its just focusing that is slow. If you focus manually or fixed, it will take pictures amazingly fast.
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I see, we will see if it changes with the 5.1" update, I remember the first big update for the nexus 5 did wonders for the camera
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Completely imaginary.
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http://nexus5.wonderhowto.com/how-to/fix-screen-burns-your-nexus-6-other-amoled-device-0159397/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/burn-t2955765
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Where are you coming up with these questions? The only icon I've seen that actually looks bad, is the one for my bank... and it looks bad on ANY screen. Screen resolution is not so tightly tied to "icons" -- bigger screen = more icons. Also, Nexus 5 was already a 1080p display. I also hardly consider this question to be meaningful. Who really cares what icons look like? The objective is to maximize USEFULNESS.
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I'm sorry, I know it sounds ridiculous but I'm studying to become a designer and that kind of things really bother me , as far as I know if you don't update the resolution for the icons and increase the resolution of the display you end up with fuzzy icons
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No. Flash storage is blazingly fast on this device, HOWEVER, the "default configuration" enables data partition encryption by force, which reduces the EFFECTIVE flash performance to nexus 5 level (which is still very good). Simple adjustment to a text file on the boot partition allows this to be disabled. It is also probable/possible that Google will be enabling hardware crypto on the next update.
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I'm in agreement with @doitright. I can say nothing but good about this device. I do not have any of those issues nor know of any that do. As with any device though there are always some bad ones that an unlucky few receive. It does not make all of them bad just those. My phone is a beast. It outperforms the N5 by miles. Screen looks amazing. Icons to me look great I haven't come across a bad looking icon except that of my bank.... I guess banks hire poor developers idk. Storage is incredibly fast. Camera is fantastic. Fastest signal acquisition I've seen on any phone including GPS.
Eh. Entirely up to you what you want to do. I don't trust any reviews. I rather go with my own opinions/feelings on anything. You should too.
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I'm sorry, I know it sounds ridiculous but I'm studying to become a designer and that kind of things really bother me , as far as I know if you don't update the resolution for the icons and increase the resolution of the display you end up with fuzzy icons
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App icons are controlled by the dev. I've never seen a fuzzy one.
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No. Flash storage is blazingly fast on this device, HOWEVER, the "default configuration" enables data partition encryption by force, which reduces the EFFECTIVE flash performance to nexus 5 level (which is still very good). Simple adjustment to a text file on the boot partition allows this to be disabled. It is also probable/possible that Google will be enabling hardware crypto on the next update.
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I'm awaiting this Thursday to grab one on VZ, coming from a Galaxy Nexus, anything I could get now would be a major update hardware wise, however the only exception I take is the last part of this, not trying so start anything, your other parts are spot on.
The current speculation is that 5.1 may go backwards on forcing software encryption, but nothing is confirmed there, see last paragraph:
http://www.slashgear.com/android-5-1-in-march-heres-what-may-be-coming-18369666/
If the Nexus 6 had the HW encryption on it, and I cant confirm it does, we're left with these options:
1 - they do enable it, which begs why it wasn't in the first place. Current rumor is that the qualcomm drivers for that engine are not open source, therefore it is a no no on android:
http://androidheadlines.com/2014/11...ency-likely-due-missing-qualcomm-drivers.html
2 - they tweak the software encryption, which if you check the threads, opinions really vary here. if you need to irk the absolute most out if it for read write, then undo it. But plenty of others have chimed in saying it wasn't that big an increase, i believe it to be what you may be using on the device that makes the difference, more intensive apps may cause the SW process to bog down, but in all, it is still fast.
3 - they disable it by default, which I wonder how that would be accomplished in an OTA, it would need to wipe the device I'm sure, but ...
4 - Lastly, if in fact they cant use the engine, or it wasn't included (doubtful, it has qualcomm in it) then you cant enable it by an OTA, end of that story.
Personally, if I grab the N6 this week, I plan on unlocking/rooting/removing VZ oem partition, but for the moment leaving encryption on, because 5.1 may drop in March, and then see how things are at that juncture.
It would be great if they could enable HW encryption, because we get that security and maintain read write offloaded from the CPU.
Lastly, I plan on trying to enjoy the thing, playing with it for at least an hour in store before taking it (you never know) because as most of us here are OC hehe, reading all the threads of issues before buying it is kinda a downer. I know I'm going to love it, having waited three years to update myself.
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The current speculation is that 5.1 may go backwards on forcing software encryption, but nothing is confirmed there, see last paragraph:
http://www.slashgear.com/android-5-1-in-march-heres-what-may-be-coming-18369666/
If the Nexus 6 had the HW encryption on it, and I cant confirm it does, we're left with these options:
1 - they do enable it, which begs why it wasn't in the first place. Current rumor is that the qualcomm drivers for that engine are not open source, therefore it is a no no on android:
http://androidheadlines.com/2014/11...ency-likely-due-missing-qualcomm-drivers.html.
3 - they disable it by default, which I wonder how that would be accomplished in an OTA, it would need to wipe the device I'm sure, but ...
4 - Lastly, if in fact they cant use the engine, or it wasn't included (doubtful, it has qualcomm in it) then you cant enable it by an OTA, end of that story.
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That's what I was thinking about, would it be possible for them to get rid of the encryption with an OTA , I would think that one needs to factory reset your device
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I see, we will see if it changes with the 5.1" update, I remember the first big update for the nexus 5 did wonders for the camera
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Focus is a PHYSICAL MOVEMENT of the lens. No update will change the amount of time it takes to move the lens.
http://nexus5.wonderhowto.com/how-to/fix-screen-burns-your-nexus-6-other-amoled-device-0159397/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/burn-t2955765
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I congratulate you on finding a thread about an imaginary problem, and a "fix" for an imaginary problem.
There is a certain subset of people who will do anything, IMAGINE anything, to find a problem. Don't ask me why they are like that. Sucks to be them.
I'm sorry, I know it sounds ridiculous but I'm studying to become a designer and that kind of things really bother me , as far as I know if you don't update the resolution for the icons and increase the resolution of the display you end up with fuzzy icons
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You can't do anything to increase the fuzzyness of an image, unless you actually stretch it larger. I.e., if it takes the same physical space on the screen, then increasing the DPI on the screen won't cause it to become more fuzzy -- it just won't increase in SHARPNESS with the display. Google has specifications regarding the dimensions of the icons, and these specifications have always included a "much larger" image than what will actually display on the screen. The icons actually get scaled down to fit. So really, don't worry about it. If you find an application with a ugly/fuzzy icon, complain to the application vendor, because they're the ones who made an ugly icon, not the platform.
I just can't stress enough, that this is a silly point to use to avoid a device.
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I'm awaiting this Thursday to grab one on VZ, coming from a Galaxy Nexus, anything I could get now would be a major update hardware wise, however the only exception I take is the last part of this, not trying so start anything, your other parts are spot on.
The current speculation is that 5.1 may go backwards on forcing software encryption, but nothing is confirmed there, see last paragraph:
http://www.slashgear.com/android-5-1-in-march-heres-what-may-be-coming-18369666/
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I *absolutely promise you* that they WILL NOT eliminate the encryption requirement. Those "android one" devices are... really really cheap. It is likely that they don't force encryption simply because they are not up to the task.
If the Nexus 6 had the HW encryption on it, and I cant confirm it does, we're left with these options:
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I CAN confirm that it does. There is no question at all. It is part of all snapdragon SoC's since about S4.
1 - they do enable it, which begs why it wasn't in the first place. Current rumor is that the qualcomm drivers for that engine are not open source, therefore it is a no no on android:
http://androidheadlines.com/2014/11...ency-likely-due-missing-qualcomm-drivers.html
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There are two sides to the use of encryption hardware with qualcomm SoC's; the first is the "blobs", and the second is the integration with Android and the Linux kernel. Specifically, qualcomm's hardware crypto requires changes both to the kernel (which is under GPL), as well as VOLD (which is under APL).
Obviously, to include the kernel part, that kernel part MUST be provided as source. There is absolutely no option here.
VOLD is the part of Android responsible for mounting and managing disks. It is under the Apache license, which means that technically speaking, it can be distributed without including source, HOWEVER, this is a Nexus from Google, which means that they really can't ship a blob in place of VOLD. It has to be possible to build VOLD from AOSP.
So here is what was going on; at the time that Nexus 6 first shipped, Qualcomm HAD NOT made the source for Kernel or Vold available on CAF. That made it *impossible* for Google to include, since they would have to provide kernel code on request, and require that AOSP VOLD actually build and work.
QUALCOMM HAS SINCE MADE THE SOURCE AVAILABLE!!!!
And, in fact, there are a number of devices for which CM actually builds and includes hwcrypto *right now*.
2 - they tweak the software encryption, which if you check the threads, opinions really vary here. if you need to irk the absolute most out if it for read write, then undo it. But plenty of others have chimed in saying it wasn't that big an increase, i believe it to be what you may be using on the device that makes the difference, more intensive apps may cause the SW process to bog down, but in all, it is still fast.
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This isn't even a half solution, because even though it may seem to improve storage performance to an acceptable level, it has to nail the CPU while doing so.
3 - they disable it by default, which I wonder how that would be accomplished in an OTA, it would need to wipe the device I'm sure, but ...
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Technically possible, but I *promise* you, it won't happen.
4 - Lastly, if in fact they cant use the engine, or it wasn't included (doubtful, it has qualcomm in it) then you cant enable it by an OTA, end of that story.
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Most definitely CAN be used. No question about it.
Personally, if I grab the N6 this week, I plan on unlocking/rooting/removing VZ oem partition, but for the moment leaving encryption on, because 5.1 may drop in March, and then see how things are at that juncture.
It would be great if they could enable HW encryption, because we get that security and maintain read write offloaded from the CPU.
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You could disable crypto now, and let it encrypt when the update rolls around. Disabling forced-crypto does not prevent you from using crypto now or later.
Lastly, I plan on trying to enjoy the thing, playing with it for at least an hour in store before taking it (you never know) because as most of us here are OC hehe, reading all the threads of issues before buying it is kinda a downer. I know I'm going to love it, having waited three years to update myself.
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Keep in mind that the test unit in the store gets abused.
DIR,
Looked forward to your responses on my last post, and was not dissapointed, nice info there, especially "QUALCOMM HAS SINCE MADE THE SOURCE AVAILABLE!!!!"
so has anyone done a comparison between the hwcrypto'd CM versions and unencrypted yet?
Yeah, I know the store ones get abused, in the end it would be a N6 or a GS6 for me, and I just cannot go to touchwiz, no matter how toned down, I want pure android, and unlocking ability, etc. Kinda makes the choice or me hehehe.
Dammit VZ, if you just announce online ordering tomorrow ... grrr .....
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Focus is a PHYSICAL MOVEMENT of the lens. No update will change the amount of time it takes to move the lens.
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Oh oh well, nothing is perfect
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You could disable crypto now, and let it encrypt when the update rolls around. Disabling forced-crypto does not prevent you from using crypto now or later.
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What would be the point of deactivating to reactivate later?
Chad_Petree said:
Oh oh well, nothing is perfect
What would be the point of deactivating to reactivate later?
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I would guess deactivate to gain read/write speed increase now, if the update enables HW encryption then you would let it.
Oh, and that is the point - nothing is perfect, not the N6, nor the units that will come after it hehehe....
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DIR,
Looked forward to your responses on my last post, and was not dissapointed, nice info there, especially "QUALCOMM HAS SINCE MADE THE SOURCE AVAILABLE!!!!"
so has anyone done a comparison between the hwcrypto'd CM versions and unencrypted yet?
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I said on *some* devices. I did not say that they were enabling it on Nexus 6.
Yeah, I know the store ones get abused, in the end it would be a N6 or a GS6 for me, and I just cannot go to touchwiz, no matter how toned down, I want pure android, and unlocking ability, etc. Kinda makes the choice or me hehehe.
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Yep, I'm totally with you on that. My last phone was a samsuck.... NEVER again. I spent WAY too many hundreds of hours on kernel and device tree maintenance to get and keep that thing working adequately on CM... then Omnirom (omni is waaaaaay nicer than CM). After a year of ownership of that thing, got the wife a Hammerhead (nexus 5), and its been just so easy to maintain. Literally all I ever did with her phone was add root, busybox, and xposed (to kill a couple of the google services wakelocks). This time around, I wanted the thing to just freaking work already!!!! Only downside is that its a bit *larger* than I would have liked.
Dammit VZ, if you just announce online ordering tomorrow ... grrr .....
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I don't think that you should buy from verizon, even if/when they sell it directly. It will likely be crippled and branded, at least to some extent. Buy it from tmobile or google play store, and all you need to do is throw your verizon sim card into it. I think I heard that sprint also does not molest it. Oh, it could also be purchased directly from motorola.
Just whatever you do, do NOT buy it from ATT. They DO molest and cripple it.
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Chad_Petree said:
What would be the point of deactivating to reactivate later?
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To gain RW performance NOW... DUH.
I'll be getting it from VZ, because I just don't have the spare $$$ to buy direct and place it on VZ.
ATT taught us that VZ will have to toss its bloat on the oem partition just like anyone else, so ... as far as branding, I think that may rub off like ATT's, but if not I plan on putting in a case anyway.
Now we have to wait another two weeks if the newest rumor is true ...
The rumor mill in full swing yet again.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/Mi-Mix-2s-leaks_id102401
Check those pics people. Interesting choices by Xiaomi? If there's any validity to this, it could be the next evolution of the bezel-less craze, short of putting front cam under the screen, or ditching it altogether (which will never happen).
Just as intriguing to me is the notion of a sub-display fingerprint reader. The would mean an OLED screen as well, which would move the MIX series even closer to perfection in my opinion.
Rumor also states that this stuff would be revealed sooner rather than later, likely right before or around MWC. I'll definitely be following along closely. I love my MIX 2.
Yeah, have seen it too. Listen up, I do not have a much trust about fingerprint reader on display yet. Kudos to Synaptics, but it still needs getting fine-tuned. Plus from day to day factor I will probably find no reason for upgrade. This phone has almost perfect params. The cam is sorta bummer a bit but that aint a big bother, at least to me. Perhaps I will change mi mind but right now I don't think so.
I wish they would just remove the selfie camera and give me a 100% StB ratio phone. I don't need it. But I know their target demographics do.
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I wish they would just remove the selfie camera and give me a 100% StB ratio phone. I don't need it. But I know their target demographics do.
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Secondig this. I am no selfie material either but I understand that especially youngsters take them.
Looks good however, won't have much developer support just like the current mi mix 2. Too bad!!
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Looks good however, won't have much developer support just like the current mi mix 2. Too bad!!
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On the other hand there's been at least a couple of. I would go for one being close to stock with no big bummer. If that happens with Oreo, I am done. I don't need 25 custom roms. But I understand how difficult it gets for our devs.
Currently rocking RR on my MIX2 and couldn't be happier. Agree with @enzo_cz who cares about a million different ROMs, as long as you have a few solid options.
But I do miss the OLED screen quality of my previous OnePlus5. LCD is so washed out now to me.
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Currently rocking RR on my MIX2 and couldn't be happier. Agree with @enzo_cz who cares about a million different ROMs, as long as you have a few solid options.
But I do miss the OLED screen quality of my previous OnePlus5. LCD is so washed out now to me.
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After setting the color of display correctly I don't see a difference (mix2 looks even better in my opinion).
PoDgAnA said:
After setting the color of display correctly I don't see a difference (mix2 looks even better in my opinion).
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Please elaborate on specific settings thanks!
PoDgAnA said:
After setting the color of display correctly I don't see a difference (mix2 looks even better in my opinion).
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Would love to know as well.
And I'll be buying what ever new mix comes out.
I just love these phones. The first more than the second.
Hey guys,
my mi9t was dead recently and i'm in the market for a new cheap phone. I resisted realme for a long time due to color os until someone pointed it out that the new realme ui is better than miui, so i am going to give it a try and stumbled upon how cheap the x2 pro is given its spec.
Well since specs arent everything and there are many little things not covered in reviews, i would like to ask if
1. it has AOD and is it customizable
2. Does it have screen off hands off ok google, i use it a lot
3. since it is using in display fingerprint sensor i made the mistake of not backup-ing the resist partiotion in mi9t making it almost useless. Do i have to do the same thing and is it bootloader unlockable? i saw quite a lot of custom rom available and thats kinda good
4. is there any small things i need to know like build quality, lagginess
Thanks
It's a good phone overall. I am using CN version, however I recommend you get the EU version to get full gapps support.
Yes AOD on realme UI is fairly customizable. You can choose what to show and the clock. Display format and style. Beyond that not really.
EU version has the all google apps as far as I know but please double check.
Bootloader is easily unlocked. Rest i am not sure.
Built quality is superb. Battery 0 to 100 percent in 36 minutes. No lagginess with stock. Pretty fast boot due to UFS 3.0 (not all variants have this so pls. be careful when ordering/buying). People say cameras are ok and not great. For me upgrading from LG V20, they definitely are better. Also you might have to disable smart power saver for apps to work correctly i.e send notifications pop ups etc. Maybe that's only for CN version.
I hope this helps.
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It's a good phone overall. I am using CN version, however I recommend you get the EU version to get full gapps support.
Yes AOD on realme UI is fairly customizable. You can choose what to show and the clock. Display format and style. Beyond that not really.
EU version has the all google apps as far as I know but please double check.
Bootloader is easily unlocked. Rest i am not sure.
Built quality is superb. Battery 0 to 100 percent in 36 minutes. No lagginess with stock. Pretty fast boot due to UFS 3.0 (not all variants have this so pls. be careful when ordering/buying). People say cameras are ok and not great. For me upgrading from LG V20, they definitely are better. Also you might have to disable smart power saver for apps to work correctly i.e send notifications pop ups etc. Maybe that's only for CN version.
I hope this helps.
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Thanks for the feedback but can you use ok google with the screen off?
coconutxyz said:
Thanks for the feedback but can you use ok google with the screen off?
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I tried it, it didn't work on screen off
batestota said:
I tried it, it didn't work on screen off
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ah bummer, i use that feature a lot!
coconutxyz said:
ah bummer, i use that feature a lot!
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that sucks, but you could use face unlock then use ok google right away, the face unlock in this device is really really fast, just one lock and it will be open
batestota said:
that sucks, but you could use face unlock then use ok google right away, the face unlock in this device is really really fast, just one lock and it will be open
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yea good idea but i mostly use it while driving haha
Double tap to face unlock.