So I was running LiquidSmooth 5.1.1 CM-based ROM for a longest time. But the times they are a changin. MM stock came. But with it I don't see that many ROMs - 2 so far. Both of each have issues. Iron has bloated from 1.4 GB stock to 2.3GB, what an achievement. Simpler doesn't like OpenGapps. It seems everybody is happy with stock MM.
I'm not. I miserably failed to get rid of Knox, or whatever new AKMS name Gnusmas came up with. That Knox bastard shows its notification every time I setup WiFi. Knox thinks that restarting and reverting the change (WiFi ?) is par for course. Primary cause is TWRP recovery (non standard). So I cannot have root, cannot have TWRP, cannot get rid of bloat, battery life and smoothness suffering, cannot use root apps like TiBu.
I ended up using Schischu's MM, which gave me zero issues, worked with OpenGapps with half-kick, and I have Screen-on-time around 8 hours, which is astonishing.
Just install the stock ROM. Works fine for me. The TWRP and SuperSU install is pretty standard. I have no idea what you're whining about. Maybe you should no use "non-standard"?
tried stock
tried stock - wifi would reset after reboot due to Knox.
Look for sweet rom it is at lollipop but it is Knox free.....
I don't know what knox has to do with wifi. At least, I haven't heard about it yet, and haven't observed it myself.
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tried stock - wifi would reset after reboot due to Knox.
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There must be something else going on. I'm rooted with Superuser & TWRP on stock MM. I'm not having any wifi or Knox issues.
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I don't have the time to constantly be looking for new roms to make my phone run properly. My phone is always freezing up due to the stupid Touchwiz UI and I absolutely hate it. I am sick and tired of my phone freezing up and lagging constantly and having to do factory reset and reinstalling all my apps fresh.
So I was wondering, what can I do to fix this problem in a easier manner? I was thinking about rooting the phone, saving all my app data, unrooting, resetting the phone, rooting again, uninstall bloatware, reinstalling apps with their data, and unrooting.
Here are my concerns though. I want to be able to reset the phone using the orignal factory reset. I don't have time or care to install new roms on my phone as I want to keep my warranty and I want to be able to sell my phone in the future.
So what are my options here? What can I do and what are my steps to start doing them?
I am on AT&T Note 3 with kitkat 4.4.2 with my build number ending in NC2.
Is the Note 3 development this bad? Not one response in a couple days. Anyone have a simple answer?
I just want to know if I can factory reset if I root my device and how I could complete unroot.
joshlete said:
Is the Note 3 development this bad? Not one response in a couple days. Anyone have a simple answer?
I just want to know if I can factory reset if I root my device and how I could complete unroot.
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Simple answer is root with towelroot, and when you want to do a complete factory reset, flash stock NC2 using the guide in this thread.
I think your original question about what options you have is a little more complicated...rooting your phone technically voids your warranty, but if you're referring to the KNOX warranty flag then towelroot doesn't trip that flag. Reflashing stock NC2 with Odin will unroot your phone automatically so no worries there either. What I'm getting at is flashing roms isn't going to void your warranty any more than rooting with towelroot will, on the other hand uninstalling system apps can cause lots of problems, so you may find it easier to flash a near-stock rom that has the bloatware already removed.
But if you're set on not flashing anything, then I'd suggest using titanium backup to freeze any apps you don't want instead of uninstalling them. If you uninstall the wrong app you could end up having to do a factory reset anyway just to get your phone working again. Freezing system apps can cause problems too but it's generally easier to unfreeze an app than try and find and reinstall a system apk. And as tempting as it is don't uninstall My Magazine you'll get FC all over the place and your email won't work properly
So if I install that stock rom, would I be able to update my phone using the internal updater? I just want to be able to install Android 5.0 when/if it comes out for the Note 3. Seeing how AT&T note 3 has little to no roms to install. Very disappointing.
The Odin files in that thread are for stock NC2 and unless you flashed a rom after your second post you're still on stock...it's the exact same AT&T stock build...flashing it won't really benefit you at all unless you rooted and made changes to your system. I assume by internal updater you mean the OTA updates that get pushed out from AT&T then yes since that is the official AT&T build if you flash it you will still get those updates provided AT&T is your carrier. There may not be a lot of roms but the ones we have are great I'd encourage you to try one or two there are a couple "debloated" stock roms I think would give you what you're looking for in terms of stability but of course it's up to you if you just want to stay stock
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So if I install that stock rom, would I be able to update my phone using the internal updater? I just want to be able to install Android 5.0 when/if it comes out for the Note 3. Seeing how AT&T note 3 has little to no roms to install. Very disappointing.
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Wow... just... wow.
This POST is disappointing.
I'm on the same boat as you OP. When time comes for a new phone, my next phone will never be another Samsung phone again. I will only consider phones that are close to stock. Most likely Motorola X or Sony Z3 Compact or similar.
TouchWiz is so disappointing. It's slow and creates lags even for just checking what time it is.
Fortunately I have some time so unlike OP, I tried debloating stock rom, tried at least 5 custom roms. Most of the custom roms have either too much theme customization (really not my taste) or something else doesn't work (NFC payment or deep sleep or some other thing). And they all claim super duper fast and rock stable, but those are hyperboles. The only time I experienced one rom being faster than the other was with Galaxy S5 port rom, but that was most likely due to the fact that standby mode is disabled because we have no way to update the firmware. In other words, uses more battery but still lasts a day. Also, I never seen the battery last exceptionally longer than the stock rom, so don't trust the super long lasting battery claims.
The easiest way to get your phone run smoothly is to factory reset it, and then only install select apps that you really need and know that it won't be a resource hog reporting your every move.
Oh, and last year's Moto X (dual core) feels faster than a quad core Note3 for everyday task in my hands. I wish we had a google experience rom for n900a.
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The Odin files in that thread are for stock NC2 and unless you flashed a rom after your second post you're still on stock...it's the exact same AT&T stock build...flashing it won't really benefit you at all unless you rooted and made changes to your system. I assume by internal updater you mean the OTA updates that get pushed out from AT&T then yes since that is the official AT&T build if you flash it you will still get those updates provided AT&T is your carrier. There may not be a lot of roms but the ones we have are great I'd encourage you to try one or two there are a couple "debloated" stock roms I think would give you what you're looking for in terms of stability but of course it's up to you if you just want to stay stock
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Could you link me to some stock roms? I lost my game in rom finding and can't seem to get a good running/looking rom.
RErick said:
Wow... just... wow.
This POST is disappointing.
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Most useless post of the year goes to......
joshlete said:
Could you link me to some stock roms? I lost my game in rom finding and can't seem to get a good running/looking rom.
Most useless post of the year goes to......
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UR Droid is probably the closest to stock...Knox removed, sd card write permissions fixed, etc. are the only mods...that said carl's made a ton of flashable zips too so if you did want to start making mods yourself chances are you won't have any problems while running his rom
FireKat is one you've probably run across. That is a stock rom all of the mods/optimizations/etc mega makes are from other stock builds. There's no theming or anything like that it's more like "TouchWiz optimized"...again nothing extraneous added if you want to add tethering, call recording, etc you'll have to do it yourself. FireKat is geared towards speed and battery life but it's rock solid with no known issues. All of the rom updates you see are for performance improvements as opposed to the majority of the aosp-hybrid or heavily themed roms where updates are for bug fixes.
Both devs are really helpful and responsive definitely check out their threads though since I'm not up to date with both roms. I have flashed both of them at some point and both are significant improvements over stock...of course no one can tell you what roms you'll like or should flash but I'd be pretty surprised if you have a better experience on stock than either of these roms.
I've been running a stock rooted 4.4.2 for months and it was not laggy at all.
In the application manager settings I turned off all bloatware apps that I did not use. I froze (with titanium backup) all bloatware that could not be turned off in settings and also froze anything that says "knox" in the title. I used xposed installer to install many modules that allowed me to tweak my stock rom... including greenify to auto hibernate apps, smart booster to manage ram, boot manager, and also Wanam xposed for ui customizing...
My phone has run extremely well.
I just made the jump to 4.4.4 and got it rooted (thanks to @muniz_ri and a few others).... exact same setup again... stock rooted... turn off and freeze un-needed apps... xposed modules... and again it is running nice and smooth.
I also use nova launcher prime because it feels more responsive and does more things that I want (like a home screen that will autorotate to landscape mode).
Wow, that's a lot to have for being stock .
The only way to get rid most of your concerns is to root your phone. Then you can delete all other useless apps that you don't need and slow your phone down a bit.
But installing a new Rom is the best way to have a peace in mind I think. Dynamic KitKat is one of the best roms for our phone. I've been using it for months and there is nothing I can say how much I like it. Sometimes I experience lag, but that is to be expected because of Android's ability to do multitasks.
Just my 2 cents.
I am running stock 5.0.1 on my T-Mo Note 4, and the things horribly, awfully slow. It's glitchier than ever too. It randomly restarts and sometimes it's so slow my screen turns off before a menu appears after I click it. Also my phone reboots randomly! It's like a soft reboot, once it turns back on, I'm right where I left off.
Is anyone else experiencing this? I really wanted Lollipop but this is just the worst thing I have ever seen.
Any suggestions? I'm relatively new to the whole scene, but I got TWRP recovery installed, I know how to flash with odin (already bricked and un bricked my phone).
I miss Xposed, but the new xposed with lollipop and Touchwiz set up seems extremely daunting.
So my question is, should I go back to stock kitkat so I can use Xposed again, or is there a better custom rom?? I tried alliance, which really intrigued me but it got stuck at the boot screen (surprise).
I'd flash pop rocks 7x. Mega is doing an amazing job with issues such as yours. And you can run xposed with it.
Just follow the instructions in the op.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3096286
It's the first rom I flash for people. It's a great way to start and often my dd.
Wifi calling for 5.0.1 is super glitchy, every morning I wake up and wifi calling has reg99 or 82 error. Is there a ROM with working wifi calling and stable. Would like the double tap to wake option if there is such a rom for the tmobile note 4.
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I am running stock 5.0.1 on my T-Mo Note 4, and the things horribly, awfully slow. It's glitchier than ever too. It randomly restarts and sometimes it's so slow my screen turns off before a menu appears after I click it. Also my phone reboots randomly! It's like a soft reboot, once it turns back on, I'm right where I left off.
Is anyone else experiencing this? I really wanted Lollipop but this is just the worst thing I have ever seen.
Any suggestions? I'm relatively new to the whole scene, but I got TWRP recovery installed, I know how to flash with odin (already bricked and un bricked my phone).
I miss Xposed, but the new xposed with lollipop and Touchwiz set up seems extremely daunting.
So my question is, should I go back to stock kitkat so I can use Xposed again, or is there a better custom rom?? I tried alliance, which really intrigued me but it got stuck at the boot screen (surprise).
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From battery to boot its all about a custom kernal in my opinion.
@jovy23 has a killler rom for the N4 Tmo. DarthStalker V2
If you wipe properly using twrp.
And flash emotion kern R16.
With synapse controller app.[emoji106]
Youll be blown away.[emoji41]
Even stock its one of the Most loaded and clean running Roms out on the market...
Nice built in themes as well..
If youd like to know good flashing procedures hit me on the Pm..
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From battery to boot its all about a custom kernal in my opinion.
@jovy23 has a killler rom for the N4 Tmo. DarthStalker V2
If you wipe properly using twrp.
And flash emotion kern R16.
With synapse controller app.[emoji106]
Youll be blown away.[emoji41]
Even stock its one of the Most loaded and clean running Roms out on the market...
Nice built in themes as well..
If youd like to know good flashing procedures hit me on the Pm..
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Agreed. He just released a new version 18, but the wifi calling is still under construction and working on r16
My wife and I both have H811 G4s. I've gone through and rooted both of our phones with Low Effort, flashed twrp, debloated, updated to 10n debloated. Everything has been great until last week. My wifes phone started randomly rebooting. It's actually random. I can't find anything consistent. I removed apps with updates, factory reset and it would reboot during the setup wizard. Yesterday I did a full return to stock 10n, and it behaved all day.
Today I try to root with the 10n debloat , and now it's rebooting again. I have a hard time thinking it's bad hardware as the full stock works fine, and with it not rebooting on stock how would I prove it for the replacement?
What else can I check or do to fix this, and why is it only happening to one of the phones?
Bad download.
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Bad download.
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Good idea, but I've used the same file on multiple phones without issue. It's only the one device having problems. Also the md5 matches, just double checked.
As I work my way backwards I'm pretty sure this it turning into failed hardware. I've had it reboot a few times on stock during the setup wizard. But it's nowhere as frequent as the rooted roms.
I never want to touch the stock rom again, how do I make the most of my xt894?
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I never want to touch the stock rom again, how do I make the most of my xt894?
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install the Rom you want on stock slot
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Its that easy?
Because I installed safestrap on the stock rom, does it not get deleted when I wipe the stock rom?
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Its that easy?
Because I installed safestrap on the stock rom, does it not get deleted when I wipe the stock rom?
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safestrap will replace needed files as long as Rom on stock slot is compatible.
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What sort of rom would not be compatible? I would like to use a overclocking 12.1 rom. Unless there would be a significant advantage to using 4.4.4 (overclocking of course). A link to list of differences in features between 4.4.4 and 5.1.1 would be great, then I can make my own mind up without trying both (kinda leaning towards 4.4.4 as I've not tried it, 4.1.3 stock had minimal lag in safe mode and the process limit doesn't seem to stick to a limit of 2, reverts back to no limit as often as I change it. Adblock plus also seems to be less than flawless, much less than flawless. Perhaps there is add injection occuring somewhere however they [adverts] are rather offensive.
Sometime I get huge lag spikes that should never happen on hardware of this caliber unless significant lack of optimization exists.
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What sort of rom would not be compatible? I would like to use a overclocking 12.1 rom. Unless there would be a significant advantage to using 4.4.4 (overclocking of course). A link to list of differences in features between 4.4.4 and 5.1.1 would be great, then I can make my own mind up without trying both (kinda leaning towards 4.4.4 as I've not tried it, 4.1.3 stock had minimal lag in safe mode and the process limit doesn't seem to stick to a limit of 2, reverts back to no limit as often as I change it. Adblock plus also seems to be less than flawless, much less than flawless. Perhaps there is add injection occuring somewhere however they [adverts] are rather offensive.
Sometime I get huge lag spikes that should never happen on hardware of this caliber unless significant lack of optimization exists.
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every Rom that was built in the last 2 years should be compatible with safestrap, and can be installed on stock slot. just be sure not to reboot if you get errors when installing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3181430
Installing and using Safestrap 3.75 (2015)
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7jkKok terrible stuff happened.
I wiped the stock slot and booted back into slot1. worked fine
went in with the latest nightly and it failed so I did an advanced wipe of ./system and fell asleep flashing 0907 (the sam rom that's running on slot 1) woke up to an un happy android symbol on my phone. safestrap seems to be gone and I can access the recover options as per the guide at
droidforums.net/threads/how-to-restore-your-motorola-droid-4-xt894-to-stock-windows-only.206972/
the "Decompress And Start Flashing" option is greyed out.
please advise, my phone is a partial brick until remedied
mirddes said:
7jkKok terrible stuff happened.
I wiped the stock slot and booted back into slot1. worked fine
went in with the latest nightly and it failed so I did an advanced wipe of ./system and fell asleep flashing 0907 (the sam rom that's running on slot 1) woke up to an un happy android symbol on my phone. safestrap seems to be gone and I can access the recover options as per the guide at
droidforums.net/threads/how-to-restore-your-motorola-droid-4-xt894-to-stock-windows-only.206972/
the "Decompress And Start Flashing" option is greyed out.
please advise, my phone is a partial brick until remedied
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wiped stock have how?
RSD Lite version?
use decompress only
Droid 4: Flashing XML/Firmware with RSD Lite http://youtu.be/CM3XjZT80m0
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Vs most KitKat ROMs, CM12.1:
Is subject to random slowdowns, due to memory management issues and outright lack of memory (can be remedied to a point via Joojoobee's kernel and aggressive minfree settings), limited overclocking (KK-based ROMs have access to the JBX kernel and its exotic voltage controls, enabling higher overclocking limits), and just because (the cause hasn't quite been pinned down yet)
Is easier on the battery at idle due to less Play Services wakelocking (note: Play Services can be toned down in KK as well, but you lose some functionality like automated mail pushes and such)
Is more modern, some apps need Lollipop APIs
Has some features that rely on Lollipop APIs (as far as I know, anyway), such as Motodoze for pocket/wave detection
If you don't specifically want Lollipop stuff like Motodoze, the better Play Services, etc, go with a KK ROM. I've always been fond of SlimKat, myself, but whatever ROM you choose it will run well more consistently than CM12 does.
If you're still set on CM12, once you get the phone back to factory condition, try flashing CM11 first, then CM12 on top of that. CM12 wasn't intended for use in the stock slot, so going straight from stock JB to it causes...oddities. Used to, anyway, CM12 might contain the same stock-slot housekeeping stuff as CM11 these days.
Hi, I have been seeing significant lag of my phone and various times to the point that my phone becomes inoperable for a period of time and after the phone recovers it never goes back to full speed., I have to restart. I'm stock not rooted anymore and recently formatted and started from scratch but see no improvement. This is especially annoying when running android auto at which point the phone and the app barely work. Any suggestions? I don't think its a better thing because i had it happen at 60 and at 40 though definitely see it more at 40 or less. Is there a good way to see what app might be causing this?
Install a different kernel. Stock is garbage
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I don't think k I want to root again.
You don't need root to install a custom kernel. In fact you don't even need to install TWRP. Using ADB you can flash the custom kernel. Just make sure you have USB debugging enabled in Developer Options and make sure your bootloader is unlocked.
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You don't need root to install a custom kernel. In fact you don't even need to install TWRP. Using ADB you can flash the custom kernel. Just make sure you have USB debugging enabled in Developer Options and make sure your bootloader is unlocked.
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Same exact issue here. F*** Google for screwing up our stock phones and not fixing them. What would you suggest for a kernal and rom. It has been a long time since I was rooted with a custom rom but I can't take this for another day.
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Same exact issue here. F*** Google for screwing up our stock phones and not fixing them. What would you suggest for a kernal and rom. It has been a long time since I was rooted with a custom rom but I can't take this for another day.
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Hello... I think all ROMs perform the same in term of fluidity and speed. Some have different features and customization options. I run Pure Nexus on my N6, N6P and Pixel XL. All use ElementalX kernel. I like this configuration. But there is a lot of different possibilities.
I suggest you to look at the forum and read a little bit the first posts of the different ROMs/kernels and see what they have to offer. :good:
Good luck...
I've had this same exact issue. I thought about switching back to MM because I had great battery life on MM. I also thought about flashing Franco Kernel and go from there. It is one that has the option to hide that the bootloader is unlocked. I don't really want to have my bootloader unlocked, and I don't think I can make changes to the kernel easily without having it rooted, something else I also don't want to do. Maybe MM is the best option. Google is still sending out security updates for MM.
Well problem solved I should say. Used nexus root kit to root and install Pure nexus. Only issue I had was I had a gapps from 2015 that crashed everything so I reinstalled with a new gapps. Working great and the speed is back.
Then unless you wanted an old copy, you downloaded the wrong version of Pure Nexus. The latest version includes the Google apps in the ROM, eliminating the need to flash a GApps package.