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Battery Diagnostics

Hello,
I have upgraded my Imate PDA2k ROM Helmi_BA_WM2k5_AKU3.5_v1.4.CF2 R2 by baniaczek for about a month now. It has been working perfectly fine with no much issues on Wifi and other stuff. But since last one week i see my battery runs out within 3 hours and each time i had to re-charge the same. Even though the usage is really minimal. ( May be 2 or three calls and no real PDA usage). Also i feel the device is heated up most of the time. Are there any diagnostic tools for battery ?. .. Is this caused by any program running continously.
Any suggestions to find out the battery problem.

It is probably a running program or some activated interface (GPRS, IrDA, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi). Make sure they are all deactivated.

Thanks for the reply. I have tried disabling BT/WiFi / GPS ( even deleted GPS Connections ). Still the battery runs only for 3 to 4 hours. How can i figure out which of the applications might be causing the problem ??..... ( As i stated in my previous post things were fine two weeks back ). I can not figure out!... Can this be a hardware problem ?. Should i try flashing the ROM again ?.
Any suggestions will be of great help.
Thanks.

Is the backlight always on?

No. I think its a hardware problem. I flashed the ROM again and still the battery was draining really fast. Anyways i will change the battery now and check.
regards

Perhaps the battery is getting life expired. THe most common indication of expiring battery is that it stats taking longer to charge and gets drained faster...Try replacing the battery..

Your right but it shouldn't happen in so great leap. You said that you flashed another ROM. Try doing master reset and leave the device in factory-fresh state - do not restore anything from backup imediately. If it is fine then, it is a software problem. If it is not, try turning on the flight mode for determining if it is GSM related. I'm afraid that a new battery won't solve anything.

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i'm guessing that your IR is turned on since you did not state it on your post earlier!
IR eats your battery like pacman does.

bara_too said:
IR eats your battery like pacman does.
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It would still be interesting to have battery diagnostics software. Does anyone know of such a package?

http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/benchmark/batterytests.html?en
might be useful for testing.. could potentially try different screen brightness and speeds to get a comparison. I will say that I used to only get 1 day from my old OEM battery.. got one of the e-bay special 2500mAh and now it easily gets 3 days with the same usage pattern as before..

After a long time again a re-post on this. Well my problems seems to be not getting over. I flashed the PDA2k to factory state and still the battery was draining. Then next obvious thing was to replace the battery. Now i have a brand new battery and reflashed again to factory state and my fears are coming true... still the battery drains in 3 hours... what next guys ?.

cbark2 said:
After a long time again a re-post on this. Well my problems seems to be not getting over. I flashed the PDA2k to factory state and still the battery was draining. Then next obvious thing was to replace the battery. Now i have a brand new battery and reflashed again to factory state and my fears are coming true... still the battery drains in 3 hours... what next guys ?.
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have you checked ur infra red setting? make sure its OFF! i think, it is turned on as default after flashing! or maybe your charger is defective! try someones charger!

IR disabling has not helped in the past. But i tried again but no much use. The equipment is heated up during normal usage time. Is there any thing more i can try before my BA becomes a history. ( BTW. the repair center refused take anything other than the screen changes and battery replacements. !!.. )

Any one having any idea how to reset the bios ?. I think my battery problems are related to trying out the Trial Version of Pocket Hack Master to overclock the PDA. I have uninstalled it long time back and may even have performed three to four times ROM updates but may not have reset the software's overclocking settings back .. ?!!...
BTW. The service center argued out that the any ROM updates other than official Imate ROM will void the warrantee and twice they returned without repair and attributed the the problem of heating to ROM updates... ( without even checking!! ...

I faced the same problem when attempted to upgrade my Harrier. I agree, that there must be an error somewhere in the device BIOS that cannot be that easily reflashed. Unfortunately, I could not find any solution and had to replace the useless phone that drained the battery within 4-5 hrs.

Yes the over clocking eatsup the battery as well as causes heating up the device. So better dactivate the over clocking..

Changing Battery causes severe problems.

Hi
On Thursday I received a new battery in the post (my current battery life was abysmal) anyway i changed the battery to charge the new one. After starting the phone i had to select a new language etc. and found that a huge number of my apps were giving the a force close errors. I decided to factory reset my phone, re-downloaded the apps and found the problem resolved.
However earlier today i switched batteries again (wasn't sure that was the cause last time) and it has happened again. Any Suggestions on what is causing it and how to avoid it in the future (other than simply not replacing the battery) or how to rectify it.

Fake/Faulty battery.
jje

No the battery is genuine samsung from a reputable retailer.

If you have to select a new language, it probably means your phone's internal battery has died. Try taking out the battery for 5 minutes, and see if the clock is still accurate.
knowledge is Power. Guard it well.

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Hi
On Thursday I received a new battery in the post (my current battery life was abysmal) anyway i changed the battery to charge the new one. After starting the phone i had to select a new language etc. and found that a huge number of my apps were giving the a force close errors. I decided to factory reset my phone, re-downloaded the apps and found the problem resolved.
However earlier today i switched batteries again (wasn't sure that was the cause last time) and it has happened again. Any Suggestions on what is causing it and how to avoid it in the future (other than simply not replacing the battery) or how to rectify it.
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Are you sure you are letting the phone shut down properly?? When you think it's shut down, press one of the capacitive buttons, if they light up wait until phone vibrates and lights go out, then swap battery. Had the same happen to me a couple of times.

Hello! Me and some other people had similar issues. Read this thread:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022044
It looks impossible but I start to believe that a faulty (or a cheap noname) battery can cause problems like this.

I have two spare cheap ebay batteries. I always pop the battery out with the phone still turned on and never a problem...

[Q] Weird battery issue, Razr i, after Jelly Bean

Hi all,
I have weird battery issue with my Razr i xt890 and I'd like some help. I have tried googling for information, but there's too much noise and I can't find anything suitable.
I'm asking on this site because I know the people on here are really knowledgeable.
My Razr i (with Jelly Bean) seems to have erratic battery readings. Sometimes it'll drop to 6%, and then go up to 90%, and jump around to points in between. I have even seen it drop to 1% and then go up to 6% (or something like that).
Needless to say, this makes the phone unusable because I don't know when it's on low battery so I can charge it. Furthermore, twice, it has reported low battery and then automatically shut itself down.
I hope someone can help with this, because I'm really stuck. I bought this phone overseas, and I don't really want to send it back overseas for warranty repairs.
So, some history.
Before the issue:
This is a stock Razr i, running Retail GB software. When I bought it, it was running 81.5.31002.Retail.en.GB 4.0.4. I upgraded to 81.5.39001.Retail.en.GB 4.0.4 and it's been running fine until this issue happened. I normally get about 4.5-5.5 days of battery before I recharge the phone.
This is stock software. No root. No bootloader unlock. No custom roms.
The issue:
I charged up my phone yesterday, and unplugged it from the charger at 100% battery. There was a notification that 91.2.29001.Retail.en.GB 4.1.2 was available. I selected 'Later' because I was busy at the time.
A bit later (maybe about an hour?), I went back to the phone and checked for updates, and selected to download the update. After it was downloaded, I noticed the battery was about 95%, and then I proceeded to install.
I figured 95% power should be sufficient to perform an upgrade.
The install took, maybe 10-15 minutes? At first glance, it seemed successful, but when the phone started up again, the battery reading was at 100%.
I distinctly remember thinking 'This is impossible. There's no way it could be 95% before the install, and 100% afterwards'.
I played around with the phone a bit (to try out Jelly Bean), and after a few minutes, the battery reading dropped to 60% or something.
That's when I knew something was wrong.
Since then, the phone battery reading has been erratic. If I plug it into a charger, it takes a few minutes and then shoots up to 100%. Unplug it, and it drops to a low level within minutes, and then goes up and down like a yo-yo. Twice, the phone went to a very low level, and then shut itself off.
I've tried various charging/unplugging cycles, and nothing has worked yet (Although I didn't have the patience to try an 8-hour charging cycle yet).
Please see the attached images to see what I mean.
The graphs are just bizarre.
I also did a factory reset (from the Privacy menu rather than 'recovery') but that didn't help.
At the moment, I haven't tried to root the phone or unlock the bootloader. I am still keeping the option of warranty open.
I can't think of a reason why this is happening. It doesn't seem to be a simple calibration or battery stats issue. I think the battery is working okay (because it was fine before the upgrade), just that the readings are wrong.
The phone is operating okay in all other respects. If I ignore the battery readings and the 'low battery' alerts, the phone continues to work ... except when it shuts itself down.
Another theory could be that ... because I upgraded without plugging the phone in, perhaps there was insufficient power during the upgrade and caused some corruption, and I have a faulty software/firmware? Not sure how I could test that though.
Any ideas, any one? Please?

Possibly related:
[Q] Randomly auto shutdown (battery problem)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2195878
[Q] New phone battery jumping after JB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198772

MemendF Ranck
Looks like other people have a similar problem too.
Battery Fluctuation and Random Power off after JB
h t t p s:// forums.motorola.com / posts / cd3c7d3210

Jelly bean download issues
Hi, I have had exactly the same problem after downloading jelly bean. It even died when plugged in charging. As I had only had the phone for three weeks, I took it back to the shop, Phones 4 You, and they exchanged it for a new phone and told me not to download jelly bean until they let me know it's safe to do so. They said that it was a software problem. Prior to this the battery life was outstanding and I am very pleased with the phone. Phones 4 You gave me an excellent service.

Fixed!
For future readers ...
Someone on the motorola forums (see second reply on this thread) mentioned a possible solution which was to manually install the Jelly Bean version again. I decided to give this a try.
After some more research, I discovered that it should be possible to manually apply official Motorola (ie. OTA) updates using the stock bootloader (via the bootloader recovery feature). No unlocking, no root needed.
I gave this a try ... downloaded the software (keeping to the same version), placed it on an SD card, went to recovery and selected 'Updated from external card' (or something like that) and followed through ... and it has worked (Although this time I kept the phone connected to a usb cable throughout the upgrade). My battery readings are back to normal again. I didn't lose any data or apps as a result of this 'manual upgrade'.
And I am presumably still under warranty since I didn't root nor unlock the bootloader.
Other readers may consider trying this for themselves, however, I cannot guarantee that it will work for them. I can only say it worked for me.
Some references:
How to enter stock recovery in JB (razr i)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38873652
(Apparently entering into stock recovery differs slightly between ICS and JB.)
The Unofficial Thread of Official OTA Updates
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028814
I used the software package from the first post of this thread, labelled as 81.5.39001-91.2.29001.Retail.en.GB 4.0.4-4.1.2 (even though the filename is Blur_Version.81.5.39001.XT890.Retail.en.GB.zip).

I don't have the phone yet (supposed to get it tonight) but having read quite a bit it seems Moto suggests a factory reset after upgrading to JB in order to sort out battery drain etc. I think I saw it in the battery stats thread in RAZR i general.

I send my Razr I back to Germany (living in The Netherlands myself) yesterday! Had the same problem, only my battery get down to 0% all the time, so the phone shutsdown itself every 1 minute till 1 houre. (I'm from the topic: Auto shutdown (battery problem). I think i get my new one next week on wednesday. Dus the JB software manualy update works for more people?

mo976 said:
I don't have the phone yet (supposed to get it tonight) but having read quite a bit it seems Moto suggests a factory reset after upgrading to JB in order to sort out battery drain etc. I think I saw it in the battery stats thread in RAZR i general.
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I think the problems described in this thread are relating to strange battery spikes in percentage and not a general drain of battery.
The problem is that everyone seems to be different. Some people report these spikes, some people are reporting high drains (which turning off google now or factory reset seem to fix) and some people (luckily me!) have had no issues at all - just an even faster phone

I did do a factory reset, though not immediately after the first JB upgrade. It didn't help.
I think describing this issue as battery drain or high battery usage is not quite correct. The battery is actually okay*, but the phone's indication of the battery capacity jumps all over the place (and sometimes causing automatic shutdown). I can see how it can be confused with battery drain though, especially if people only observe the reading going down (but didn't see the reading going up).
* At one point, I kept the phone screen on as an attempt to drain the battery. I got about 6 hours screen time (ignoring the intermittent battery low warnings) before I gave up.
Since I now have a phone with JB which is working, my guess is that this bug may not occur in all phones with JB. Instead, it seems to be triggered by something that happens during an upgrade.

OTA to JB on xt890 = battery problems
flashsam said:
I think the problems described in this thread are relating to strange battery spikes in percentage and not a general drain of battery.
The problem is that everyone seems to be different. Some people report these spikes, some people are reporting high drains (which turning off google now or factory reset seem to fix) and some people (luckily me!) have had no issues at all - just an even faster phone
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i have the same problem. factory reset did not help me and i feel i made a mistake i have choosen this phone.i had motorola mobiles before even bought one to my wife.i know that motorola has a conservative atittude.i thought giving them a last chance now i know it was a mistake

Thanks bengtan.
I was having similar issues and a manual install of JB appears to have solved the issue.

Have you had any luck fixing your phone? I have the same problem since a few weeks ago. Bought a new battery and tried two calibration programs, but the issue persists.

Same here. I am on KK 4.4.2 and have the problem since yesterday. What to do?

Same here, my ROM is cm-11-20160524. After 3 years of usage I thought it's the battery and replaced it with a new one but the issue persists.

This is very odd, I'm here after my dad has the same issue and it looks like I'm the 4th poster to report the issue within 50 days after the thread hadn't any replies for over 3 years! Did any of you recent posters resolve the issue? I had a spare Razr-i and my dad took it to a phone repair shop where they swapped both batteries and the issue was still the same with the other battery, so it seems it's nothing to do with the battery itself for all the posters here so far.
Was there some recent update that spiralled all the phones into the erratic behaviour recently I wonder?
I'm trying to advise my dad what to do:
Try fix the issue on his current phone and keep using relatively old tech phone
Use my spare phone (same type) and keep using relatively old tech phone and try sell old XT890 for parts
Upgrade to brand new phone with latest tech and do him for a few years longer than the XT890 would.
Any feedback appreciated!

The issue flatened a bit now. After 2 weeks of brave usage the phone keeps the charge now normally with rare drops in between. So it's still not on an acceptable level but improved magically. I do not understand the physics of this behavior.

I'm having the same strange behaviour since yesterday!!
battery level drops when pluggin the charger,
after several minutes level is jumping to 100%.
whith unplugged charger, level in general inconsistent jumping up and down...!
could this be SW related? planned obsolescence?
edit: android 4.4.2. systemversion 990.43.74.XT890.Retail.en.EU

I have the same problem following an update to JB I don't even recall authorising
I'm now looking for a copy of the new firmware: 990.43.74.XT890.Retail.en.EU to try to resolve. If anyone knows where it can be found I'd be very grateful if you could point me in the right direction...

Same problem here.
I bought a new battery. No changes.
I than did a complete wipe, unlocked the bootloader and installed CyanogenMod 11 (this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/razr-i/development/rom-unofficial-cyanogenmod-11-t2966855). No changes.
I than completely drained the battery (made sure of it) and left it on the charger over night. Now I don't get those weird spikes, the battery just drains really fast (about an hour an the phone is powering off).
Maybe I try a different ROM, or go back to KitKat

I found this but I dunno how to use it ??
h t t p s : / / forum .xda-developers .com /showpost.php?p=69816145&postcount=39
android 4.4.2. systemversion 990.43.74.XT890.Retail.en.EU

Battery issue and restoring completely to stock

Hello everyone,
I have been using a Xperia Z1 for around last 6 months and updated to Lollipop 5.1.1 two months ago. Everything was fine until last week when my phone started to get affected by the battery bug.
The phone works fine and the battery gets discharged in leaps. For example, when I use the phone from 100%, it goes down in the usual way, let's say for 1 hour usage it drops up to 90% which is quite normal. But, when lock the screen and keep it idle for sometime and when I take it back, the battery has dropped a leap, usually by 10-15%.
Yesterday, I was using the phone normally and kept it idle for the entire night and battery has been dropped only from 85% to 79% without stamina mode. That's good. However, when I restarted the phone in the morning, the battery suddenly dropped to 18%. :crying:
I tried calibrating the battery, charging/discharging cycles and removing batterystats.bin. But, the issue is still here.
I think my phone has been affected by the famous Xperia battery bug in Lollipop which means that my battery is damaged. But, before replacing the battery is there anything else that I could do to overcome the issue. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
+ My phone is rooted on stock 5.1.1 (14.6.A.0.368) with XZDualRecovery and locked bootloader. If I repair the phone with PCC will it cause any harm or bricking since because of the customer recovery?
Claiming warranty is out of option since the phone has been rooted and flashed with custom recovery.

I don't know why people call it a lollipop bug. There will be a time a battery reaches its end of live. That's what has hit you right now. Your descripte symptoms are from a dying battery. I have seen some dying battery's from me or friends. The battery was holding the charge normally and suddenly no more.
Replace it and all should be fine again.

motorazrv3 said:
I don't know why people call it a lollipop bug. There will be a time a battery reaches its end of live. That's what has hit you right now. Your descripte symptoms are from a dying battery. I have seen some dying battery's from me or friends. The battery was holding the charge normally and suddenly no more.
Replace it and all should be fine again.
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But, can this happen on a phone that is just 7 months old? Thats what makes me to think that this could be a bug.

I have the same issue, but mine drops to 0% and after waiting some time and booting it the percentage is back up. I have my phone for 2 years now, and the problem appeared in Lollipop also.

aquaboy11 said:
I have the same issue, but mine drops to 0% and after waiting some time and booting it the percentage is back up. I have my phone for 2 years now, and the problem appeared in Lollipop also.
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It's okay for a 2 year old phone as Lithium batteries wear out with time. In my case, it's kinda disappointing...

So, after searching the entire Internet, I can understand that this is a common issue with Xperia Z1 and Z1 compact and replacing the battery seems to be the only possible solution. I searched EBay for a battery but couldn't choose a good quality one. Can someone guide me on this please?

UnlimitedBB said:
So, after searching the entire Internet, I can understand that this is a common issue with Xperia Z1 and Z1 compact and replacing the battery seems to be the only possible solution. I searched EBay for a battery but couldn't choose a good quality one. Can someone guide me on this please?
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Your battery is definitely dying and it has nothing to do with roms. Get a battery that the seller claims to be OEM. That's your best bet...

optimumpro said:
Your battery is definitely dying and it has nothing to do with roms. Get a battery that the seller claims to be OEM. That's your best bet...
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Thanks for the tip. So, I searched for an OEM battery and ordered it along with some tools required for the disassembling. I will keep posted once I replace the battery.

UnlimitedBB said:
Thanks for the tip. So, I searched for an OEM battery and ordered it along with some tools required for the disassembling. I will keep posted once I replace the battery.
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Don't think that it will resolve your problem.
I changed my internal battery about one month ago and when two weeks passed I started to experiment the same bug ? again
It's not only hardware problem, it also software problem, I believe.

D_Vovan_238 said:
Don't think that it will resolve your problem.
I changed my internal battery about one month ago and when two weeks passed I started to experiment the same bug again
It's not only hardware problem, it also software problem, I believe.
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You are correct becouse I experience som drops in the range of 5-20% in less than a minute and once 30%. All the time while the phone was in standby mode except once where it did it right in my face (10%). My battery status is reported being fine. I also forced shutdown the phone as per the calibration method for non-rooted phones. Though I did notice dalvik cache wasn't rebuilt and so there is no way to have it refreshed manually except system updates which does this.
Anyway I did remove some apps and did some changes and after this I have not had any sudden drop for weeks. Two of the apps where Truecaller and Facebook official app. Will check though if it was a third one to. I believe one of these or both where playing havok. Especially the Facebook app as it takes liberties I find suspicious, is buggy, can crash the kernel (any app that can do that is doing shady work IMO) and had the addition of a "Video Player" service that was running permanently after you launch the FB app once. I instead use Metal for Facebook now. Pretty much same experience, only 10MB RAM used instead of 90MB and no batter y drain either or any other problem. So in short I believe one of these where the culprits and since many use the FB app that might be the one playing badly with Sony Z1 system.
And If you use Adguard also check if there are apps getting high ratio of ads blocked (or analytics data blocked). Might be some dont get proccessed right in the battery system due to it calculating it wrong. Google Frameworks, Google Contacts, Play Services, Mobilestorage Checker and a few more I disabled the ad filtering for. Though this did not change the battery drop problem previously. It only went away when I uninstalled named apps above.

Battery Issues

Hello.
I'm having trouble with the newly replaced battery on my rooted Xperia Z1 (with android 5.1.1).
2 months ago i replaced the battery because the old one overheated. The new battery has been fine untill a few days ago when it told me all day that it had 50% left. I found that weird so I didn't charge it to let it run out of battery so I could charge it to 100% and recalibrate it.
After the phone suddenly blacked out the battery wouldn't charge any more, so I took it out and messured it's voltage to be around 2.5. So I jumpstarted the battery back to 3.5 V and was able to make it charge again. Even though the battery functions like "normal", it still says 50% all the time with few exceptions which does look to be the correct battery level. The power management app disappears from settings whenever the battery shows 50% and reappears when it shows the correct level.
The battery indicator shows the correct percentage when charging, but not otherwise.
My theory is that there is something wrong with the software regarding the battery management and that it let the battery use too much of it's voltage. I've seen people with similar problems (50% battery indicator and disappearing power management), but the only solution there was to replace the battery. It doesn't seem that likely because of the software being buggy and the battery is only 2 months old.
Here's some screenshots of the weird behavior:
imgur.com/SXSMdzi
imgur.com/OcYKHjA
(Couldn't include image because I am a new user)
As I were writing this, it began discharging while hooked up to a charger. Seems to be a bit unstable.
Would appreciate all and any help

Hello!
I also got similar issues. I've read and try anything to find what happened with my Z1.
First, in my experience, some says (on internet) it's Android problem called Sudden Battery Drain Syndrome. I've tried apps like repair battery etc. and calibrator to fix it. Still the same the battery drain badly.
Second, so I am continuing my investigation on internet. I read from xperia care etc and I found that android Lolipop (5.1.1) terribly sucks for Xperia Z1. Many Z1 users confirmed this. Not just the battery problem, there are bugs also, like touchscreen, screen flickering etc.
Third, after knowing this and read like 2 hours to find the solution, I found in this forum that it's better to downgrading the android version back to KitKat or JellyBean. So I installed JellyBean firmware. Just now finished. I hope it'll be good again. I'll inform you.
NB: Factory reset also won't work

Hello, nice to get some response on this thread.
FrankBubble said:
First, in my experience, some says (on internet) it's Android problem called Sudden Battery Drain Syndrome. I've tried apps like repair battery etc. and calibrator to fix it. Still the same the battery drain badly.
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I tried battery repairs, calibrators and so on. Did not do anything for me. After reading up on Sudden Battery Drain Syndrome, I'm inclined to say that it doesn't seem all that similar to my problem.
FrankBubble said:
Second, so I am continuing my investigation on internet. I read from xperia care etc and I found that android Lolipop (5.1.1) terribly sucks for Xperia Z1. Many Z1 users confirmed this. Not just the battery problem, there are bugs also, like touchscreen, screen flickering etc.
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That is interesting to know. I have experienced alot of those problems. I was thinking about upgrading to a custom unofficial Android 7 for xperia z1, hearing this might be the thing that makes me do it. It's always such a hassle to download apps and set up from a new install, so I've put it off for a while.
Some days after starting this thread, I ordered a new battery. The old one started to do the same thing. Seemed like I could jumpstart it again, but I don't see the point in doing that every other day.
The new battery has been working great for almost 3 weeks now. I still have the Lolipop problems you mentioned, but the phone works as it is supposed to. It acts up from time to time, but I suspect that being because I use Greenify and CPU tuner to make the battery last longer. I might be upgrading to Android 7 and if that fails, I might downgrade.
I'm hoping I was unlucky with the last battery because it lasted so short and that the problem was only related to the battery. I will post updates here if the new battery also suffers.