OP3 vs OP3T screen calibration and contrast...lacking 'pop'

OP3 vs OP3T screen calibration and contrast...lacking 'pop' - OnePlus 3T Questions & Answers

So i have a OP3, been using it for about a month. just received my OP3t, and found that the contrast or 'pop' of the image seems to be lacking. i held them side by side, i adjusted the color temp until the menus matched as close as i could (OP3 just continued to look more 'warm' regardless). maybe the theme in the new one is just lighter, but felt like the OP3 had a better screen? maybe i got a bad one? perhaps i'm imagining things having just switched? your thoughts. anyone else seem to feel the same? i literally had to google whether or not i had a LCD with the OP3t

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[Q] NC LCD Whiteness/Brightness Differences?

Hi All,
Newb to XDA forums tough I have been following quite a few of the development threads for weeks now (OC Kernel, Phiredrop ROM, Tablet Tweaks, etc...). First I must say I'm super impressed at all the development being done for the Nook Color, us NC owners are definitely blessed to have an active XDA community full of brilliant developers!
But here's my first question about the Nook Color, has anyone noticed that some Nook units have a whiter/brighter screen than others?
Long story short is I've gone through about 5 NC units bc of various problems and have noticed that two of the five units I've been sent so far have noticeably whiter and brighter screens than the other three. This is with the brightness setting set at the same level on each Nook. It might be a color temperature or RGB setting difference between them, but I have no clue how or why they would be different since they were all factory fresh units. Does anyone know if Barnes at some point changed color settings (within kernel?) or started using different IPS LCD parts during manufacturing at some point? I did notice that the two I had with whiter/brighter looking screens had serial numbers that started with 20111, while the others had SNs that started with 2010 or 20110. Maybe they made some settings or parts changes during the newer production runs?
I know a lot of you might be thinking I'm not judging them under the same lighting or that the brightness settings are set to different levels, but I assure you that I am placing them all next to each other and always set them to the same brightness level for comparison. Admittedly, I am a bit particular about how the quality and appearance of my LCD screens, but even my girlfriend who is not a big tech person can easily tell the difference between the screen by looking at them from a few feet away. She instantly picks out the one that has whiter whites and appears "brighter" (again with brightness set at the same level).
Of course if you don't have two of these units next to each other for comparison it might be hard to see the difference relative to one another, but I can assure you the screen whiteness differences are there between some units. Wondering if there is any way for us to control these settings via kernel changes or some other changes (color temp, hue, RGB)? My problem is that I currently have a perfect unit that has the dimmer screen, and a brighter unit that has a dead pixel and am trying to decide which I should keep and which I should return. I actually prefer the colors and appearance of the one with the whiter screen but get distracted knowing there is a dead pixel. So it's a tradeoff. However, if i know I can change the colors of the screen and make the good unit look whiter/brighter down the line, I will definitely keep that one.
Any thoughts/advice would be much appreciated.
Thanks!

anyway u can post a high def video of this? would help on what your seeing. my nookn color is def a lot yellower than my other devices. but never saw a nook that's whiter than the other

I can try to take a video tonight, but not entirely sure if the color/brightness differences will be captured on the video but i'll give it a shot.
I tried not to use the term "yellow" in my initial post since whiteness level is relative, but that's basically how my gf described it - "That one looks yellower than that other."

yeah, i find whites on my nook very "yellowish" compared to my phone.
too bad there's no settings to change the color temperature on the nook.

Actually, that was one of my questions. Is there any way to change the color temperature of the Nook LCD screen or something along that line via the kernel? I have no clue about kernel parameters, but was hoping someone like Dalingrin, the resident kernel guru, might be able to answer this question? I think I've seen some ppl create apps to update color settings in the kernal for android phones.

I have an NC with serial number started 2004, which has very beautiful screen, but just three dead pixels. so I called B&N to have a replacement, and yesterday, the new one arrived (serial number 20112..). When I have both devices sitting next to each other, I can instantly tell the new one is VERY VERY yellowish (or say, the color is way too warm).
I have to call B&N to have another replacement, and the representative told me the yellowish is a known issue, though happen rarely. My personal experience can tell that even the newer devices may still have the yellowish problem.

There goes my theory about newer serial numbers. Have no clue why some units are yellowish and some a nice white then. But so far out of all the units i've got the ones that had whiter screens all seemed to either have dead pixels or some dirt or other particles stuck underneath the glass, and the ones with the yellowish screen seem to have no other screen defects. Probably luck of the draw, but I've got some pretty bad luck so far then. Love the NC, but I'm thinking the quality assurance is pretty shabby at this point.

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Long story short is I've gone through about 5 NC units bc of various problems....
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Sorry if this is OT, but this is the part of your post that most caught my attention. What the hell are you doing to those poor Nooks? ;-)
But seriously--what the hell?

Lol... as mentioned, two had dead pixels one of them the pixel were dead center, one had dirt under the glass, another had a loose back and a yellowish screen. Now trying to decide which of the two I have left to keep. The one with one dead pixel on the right side but a white screen, and the other that has a yellowish screen but no other issues at all.

I hear u with the yellow tint. had this next to my bros Ipad 2. and the nook was embarrasingly yellow. and my apple fan boi bro said it looks like a macaroni n cheese screen.

Our first had a definite "yellow" tint to it. VERY hard to notice, but I seem to notice every imperfection. Exchanged it and the second looked better. A friend of mine bought one and it had the same yellowish tint. Doesn't bother him though. Says he doesn't see it.

Are you running the stock rom/kernel? I know on CM7 there's definitely a more yellowish tone to the screen than on Nookie Froyo or the stock rom.

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Lol... as mentioned, two had dead pixels one of them the pixel were dead center, one had dirt under the glass, another had a loose back and a yellowish screen. Now trying to decide which of the two I have left to keep. The one with one dead pixel on the right side but a white screen, and the other that has a yellowish screen but no other issues at all.
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Didn't realize there was such inconsistencies with the NCs regarding color temp until I read this thread. Without being able to compare screens I have no problems with mine as it seems pretty good to me, serial 2010xx dated Feb 2011.
I guess I was lucky that the one I bought had a good screen without a single dead pixel. That was the only thing I checked as it was the most important thing to me. Couldn't care less about any other cosmetic issues. Build quality was better than I expected for something of this price, but recently the left side of the bezel has started to creak annoyingly when I hold it.
Definitely can't compare to those tablets twice it's price. But AFAIC, it works very well and with the phenomenal dev support, a Nook running CM7/OC can't be beat.
If I were you, I'd return the one with dead pixel. Built into CM7 there is "Render effect". Besides the night modes, there are some basic calibaration profiles in there. Maybe one of them might make your screen a bit "whiter".
edit: I just checked and it seems all the N1 profiles made my screen seem warmer. I suppose a few more profiles can be implemented, perhaps you should start a petition to the devs?

[Q] Anyone else have parts of their screen with red tint?

Here's an image of my first Nexus 6 (top) and the RMA replacement (bottom): http://i.imgur.com/wNbgFo1.jpg
As you can see, my first N6 had a pink tint across the whole screen which is why I initiated the RMA. While the replacement is better, there's still a red tint to the right half (bottom half in portrait). Actually looking at both, the reddest tints are in the right half.
I also have some bands that are dimmer than the rest of the screen which is very noticabke when scrolling but not so much if looking at a static picture.
It seems these really are using Note 3 Samsung AMOLED panels because the same complaints were posted on another thread last year.
Both devices were manufactured 11/12 if that makes any difference.
I'm just wondering how common of an issue this is. I don't think I'll RMA again for awhile as I'm just taking up devices that should be going towards fulfilling orders and my replacement is serviceable. But considering the price, I really expected better and I don't think I can stomach the flaw.

You answered your question (the very end statement). I can't really see what you're trying to show in the picture as everyone see's colors differently and not all phone displays/pc monitors are color calibrated in the same ways. GL finding the right display for your tastes. They all have compromises albeit some less than others

You don't have to have a calibrated screen to tell that the top screen is darker than the bottom screen. It's also not hard to tell that the left is lit brighter than the right on both. Whether you see pink or not may be arbitrary but that's why I put it in the description.
My original question of if anyone else is having that issue is not answered just because I found a thread on a year old phone that may or may not be using the same panel Would prefer if other owners chimed in so I don't waste my time RMAing if it's unavoidable.
But thanks for the reply.

I have the same problem, the upper part of the screen has a pink Tint and it's bugging the hell out of me, but since i've had my friend bring it with him while coming back from USA, i'm obligated to swallow up whatever defects i find in it

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You don't have to have a calibrated screen to tell that the top screen is darker than the bottom screen. It's also not hard to tell that the left is lit brighter than the right on both. Whether you see pink or not may be arbitrary but that's why I put it in the description.
My original question of if anyone else is having that issue is not answered just because I found a thread on a year old phone that may or may not be using the same panel Would prefer if other owners chimed in so I don't waste my time RMAing if it's unavoidable.
But thanks for the reply.
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My mistake. In your picture it looks like the right side of both screens is a little darker than the left.
That said, and you don't have to answer these I'm just thinking out loud here, what were your camera settings when you took the picture? What camera did you use? What screen brightness was each display set to? Could the ambient lighting in the room have affected the photo results? Could there have been inconsistencies in the results caused by the angle of the photograph taken? Those are a few of the variables that I can think of that could skew what we're all looking at.

jbdan said:
My mistake. In your picture it looks like the right side of both screens is a little darker than the left.
That said, and you don't have to answer these I'm just thinking out loud here, what were your camera settings when you took the picture? What camera did you use? What screen brightness was each display set to? Could the ambient lighting in the room have affected the photo results? Could there have been inconsistencies in the results caused by the angle of the photograph taken? Those are a few of the variables that I can think of that could skew what we're all looking at.
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I used a Sony NEX-5R Mirrorless DSLR. I probably didn't use the best settings (automatic with manual focus) but I was kind of in a rush to get the old one out to UPS to get the CC hold for the new one to drop off. I didn't use any special lighting, just natural day time lighting. I think the pics are pretty representative of how tinted they were though because the old one was very red heavy everywhere. I should have taken additional pictures of the home screen to compare. On the default background, the new one looks turquoisish but the old one was dark blue.
Brightness was at 50% for both and I believe I had adaptive brightness turned off. Either way it was light up much brighter than I keep it at day to day (I usually have it at 25% at most with adaptive brightness on). If I had to compare the pictures to the actual devices I'd say the camera didn't pick up enough of the red tint. So in person, it's much more red and much more obvious.
But honestly, I don't care that much about the tint as much as I do the uniformity. I can live with an all yellow tint or an all red tint if it was consistent across the whole screen. I'm sure a custom kernel will come out at some point with gamma calibration so I can adjust as I please. But the way it is, the top half of the display looks brighter than the bottom half. The easiest way to see this is by setting the keyboard to Material Dark and putting the phone in landscape. The left side of the kb will look greenish grey and the right looks darker purpleish grey.
I've not heard anything about this issue. Maybe one or 2 posts on here and reddit regarding banding. Everyone else says their screens are perfect. I was hoping people would share their pictures so I can tell if I got 2 bad screens or if they're all like that and most people just don't care.

dark79 said:
I used a Sony NEX-5R Mirrorless DSLR. I probably didn't use the best settings (automatic with manual focus) but I was kind of in a rush to get the old one out to UPS to get the CC hold for the new one to drop off. I didn't use any special lighting, just natural day time lighting. I think the pics are pretty representative of how tinted they were though because the old one was very red heavy everywhere. I should have taken additional pictures of the home screen to compare. On the default background, the new one looks turquoisish but the old one was dark blue.
Brightness was at 50% for both and I believe I had adaptive brightness turned off. Either way it was light up much brighter than I keep it at day to day (I usually have it at 25% at most with adaptive brightness on). If I had to compare the pictures to the actual devices I'd say the camera didn't pick up enough of the red tint. So in person, it's much more red and much more obvious.
But honestly, I don't care that much about the tint as much as I do the uniformity. I can live with an all yellow tint or an all red tint if it was consistent across the whole screen. I'm sure a custom kernel will come out at some point with gamma calibration so I can adjust as I please. But the way it is, the top half of the display looks brighter than the bottom half. The easiest way to see this is by setting the keyboard to Material Dark and putting the phone in landscape. The left side of the kb will look greenish grey and the right looks darker purpleish grey.
I've not heard anything about this issue. Maybe one or 2 posts on here and reddit regarding banding. Everyone else says their screens are perfect. I was hoping people would share their pictures so I can tell if I got 2 bad screens or if they're all like that and most people just don't care.
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I hear ya. The uniformity, or non, would bother me too

Welcome to the world of amoled. .lol The note 4 has same issue.Replaced 3 times still have pink/purple hue..If u test this image out with brightness turned down a bit you'll see darker area's on display that's causing the issue.

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Welcome to the world of amoled. .lol The note 4 has same issue.Replaced 3 times still have pink/purple hue..If u test this image out with brightness turned down a bit you'll see darker area's on display that's causing the issue.
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I can see the light / dark difference in the screen with that image, but it doesn't bother me across such a dark background because it still looks grey all over (just to different degrees). I actually find that it's much worse with light backgrounds because it doesn't look all white or light grey. The darker parts are always pinkish. It also doesn't help that Lollipop is all about white screens everywhere either
Also found out that I don't qualify for the extended holiday return, so I have until Friday to return it for a refund. I guess I'll be calling for device #3 earlier than expected and crossing my fingers.

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I can see the light / dark difference in the screen with that image, but it doesn't bother me across such a dark background because it still looks grey all over (just to different degrees). I actually find that it's much worse with light backgrounds because it doesn't look all white or light grey. The darker parts are always pinkish. It also doesn't help that Lollipop is all about white screens everywhere either
Also found out that I don't qualify for the extended holiday return, so I have until Friday to return it for a refund. I guess I'll be calling for device #3 earlier than expected and crossing my fingers.
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My note 4 looks similar to ur replacement device, the first 2 were really bad,half of bottom was really pink,2nd one the top half was really pink..This one I'm learning to deal with,it just blew my mind last night while laying down in dark messing with wallpapers and noticed all the uneven darkness on dark grey image,dark area's and faint vertical lines everywere.It appears it's from uneven distribution of glue.

I dislike the warm color on mines. Nothing is perfect, there's always something to disliked

Just wanted to toss in my 2 cents. I have had two Nexus 6 devices now, both with discoloration. Both are from ATT. The first device was darker to lighter, from left to right. Current device is darker on top, and lighter on the bottom. It is really frustrating because I love the size, and the screen is great in terms of resolution.
I am thinking about taking this one back as well and returning it. I have never had problems on my smaller devices. It bugs the crap out of me that I can tell the difference, mainly on lighter backgrounds. I don't think I can live with this phone for a year. Waiting on the M8 GPE to get lollipop might be a better solution for me.

WBMc36 said:
Just wanted to toss in my 2 cents. I have had two Nexus 6 devices now, both with discoloration. Both are from ATT. The first device was darker to lighter, from left to right. Current device is darker on top, and lighter on the bottom. It is really frustrating because I love the size, and the screen is great in terms of resolution.
I am thinking about taking this one back as well and returning it. I have never had problems on my smaller devices. It bugs the crap out of me that I can tell the difference, mainly on lighter backgrounds. I don't think I can live with this phone for a year. Waiting on the M8 GPE to get lollipop might be a better solution for me.
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Do you recall what the build date for both phones were? Not sure if it matters but couldn't hurt to collect that info.
I just called for RMA #2. Hoping it's at least not worse than the one I have now. I think I'm in agreement with you regarding just returning it and waiting until next year, but I already gave the Nexus 5 to my wife so I'd be downgrading the Nexus 4 she had before that...ouch.

Assuming the date under the sequence number on the box is manufacture date, this one looks like 11/17/14. I didn't think to check out the original device build date, but it shipped 11/18/14 from ATT online and I received it 11/20/14.
I have had my current one now for a day, Moto and ATT claim devices shipping currently shouldn't have screen issues, although my issue is different than the screen not turning on, or flickering.
I was so ready for a big phone, I am still within my 14 day return period, and I'm wondering if I should try this again to see if I can get a good one.

WBMc36 said:
Assuming the date under the sequence number on the box is manufacture date, this one looks like 11/17/14. I didn't think to check out the original device build date, but it shipped 11/18/14 from ATT online and I received it 11/20/14.
I have had my current one now for a day, Moto and ATT claim devices shipping currently shouldn't have screen issues, although my issue is different than the screen not turning on, or flickering.
I was so ready for a big phone, I am still within my 14 day return period, and I'm wondering if I should try this again to see if I can get a good one.
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Hi All,
I'm coming in late but I just got my Nexus 6 from AT&T last night. I've been using an N5 since may and haven't had any issues. I noticed this morning when opening Hangouts, Chrome or any other page that displays white as the background that on the top it has a more greenish hue and towards the bottom right it has a purplish hue. I thought it was my eyes at first because it's subtle but when I'm paying 700.00 for a device it better have a perfect screen. So I played around with the adaptive brightness, rotated it etc. It didn't look any less green to purplish. The bottom right side of the phone in portrait (to the right or the charging port in portrait at any given appropriate angle) had a more purplish hue than the top left (opposing the camera). I'll probably be going back to at&t tonight .. which sucks because I JUST got it set up how I liked it. I hate rooting anymore which is why I buy GPE devices. I could have gone with any other device and rooted and may have to get back into that game if this is how crappy this display is going to be. Also I might add that the encryption does slow the device down a little bit compared to the N5.
P.S. Ignore my sig, I need to update that..

For mine (bought from tmo) the bottom is slightly darker than the top. I only noticed when looking hard for the "link" issue. Out of all the issues I could have had, I find this the least annoying of them.
Over all I'm happy.

I just got my Nexus 6 direct from Google (one of the lucky ones) and for the first time ever, a phone screen is really bugging me. There is a tint, darker from left to right. The most expensive Nexus I've ever bought (and I've bought them all) and the worst display. Very sad.
Here's some images, one with contrast as it was hard to photograph. Much more noticeable to the naked eye.
Does anyone NOT have this issue? If so I'd rather take the chance on replacing it.
Update: Returning it for a replacement. Google kindly gave me $10 credit for the troubles.

I received my replacement. The screen seems perfect. No gradient. There are definitely some defunct ones out there, beware. Mine is going back now. I hope you don't get it.

CJSnet said:
I received my replacement. The screen seems perfect. No gradient. There are definitely some defunct ones out there, beware. Mine is going back now. I hope you don't get it.
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Look for it... there are no perfect phones hahaha.
But congrats if you don't get annoyed with your new phone :good:

OnePlus and Display Color Accuracy

Ordered my OnePlus last week (I'm upgrading from a Moto X 2015 Pure) and I'm looking forward to getting it. I've been looking over various reviews and came across this one by AnandTech, regarding the display color/accuracy:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10411/the-oneplus-3-review/4
The OnePlus doesn't score very high on the benchmarks that were used, but what I'm curious about is why OnePlus chose to render NTSC color space, instead of the more widely accepted RGB standard?
The author of the review states:
"After reaching out to OnePlus, explaining why the choice of the NTSC color space as a target doesn't make any sense, and showing the errors it causes with sRGB rendition, they told me that they now intend to offer an sRGB mode as an option in an upcoming OTA update."
Is this something that can be tweaked once I get the phone or will I have to wait? I know color accuracy may not be a big deal to many of you, a lot displays are overly saturated straight from factory anyways, but I've also been seeing reports of green tint etc by various reviews/users. I just wanted to post this information here and wanted to know what your thoughts/opinions are about this.

I feel the display has more of a blue tint than a green.
Some of the issues can be fixed through software, imo. Not all.
The display as it is, isn't as bad as that suggests. But it could be improved for sure. I think they've tried to oversaturate to compensate for the panel.

I think this was a gamble to actually appeal to more customers. This is not very surprising. TVs in the store also often have "presentation" mode with very vivid color (not correct ones) to catch peoples attention. Only those who care calibrate later for best color reproduction. In the store, vivid picture sells the device. Before technical analyses came out, there were plenty of reviews (if not all) saying how good display looks. Most were saying that sure, it would be good to have 2K, but this 1080 screen still looks great, etc. No complaints about color.
I think many people would point and say that screen with very vivid colors looks better next to perfectly calibrated (not so vivid screen). That is just how it is. For a company (Oneplus) that depends on internet sales (not sales through carriers) it probably wasn't a good decision after all. With so much hype and scrutiny going around "sRGB mode as an option" probably should've been there to begin with, so technical people have less to complain about and pop out colors crowd had their treat as well.

Droff said:
I think this was a gamble to actually appeal to more customers. This is not very surprising. TVs in the store also often have "presentation" mode with very vivid color (not correct ones) to catch peoples attention. Only those who care calibrate later for best color reproduction. In the store, vivid picture sells the device. Before technical analyses came out, there were plenty of reviews (if not all) saying how good display looks. Most were saying that sure, it would be good to have 2K, but this 1080 screen still looks great, etc. No complaints about color.
I think many people would point and say that screen with very vivid colors looks better next to perfectly calibrated (not so vivid screen). That is just how it is. For a company (Oneplus) that depends on internet sales (not sales through carriers) it probably wasn't a good decision after all. With so much hype and scrutiny going around "sRGB mode as an option" probably should've been there to begin with, so technical people have less to complain about and pop out colors crowd had their treat as well.
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Yep. The panel definitely isn't bad quality. Anandtech gave it a poor review based on the calibration, not the quality of the actual panel itself. I can appreciate accurate displays and typically prefer them, but I can tell you this, most people will think the OnePlus 3 display looks great. The colors look about the same as the default adaptive display mode of the Note 5 and Galaxy S7, but the white balance is actually better (my OP3 has less green tint than my S7 Edge). If the Galaxy S7 didn't have the basic mode display setting that no one actually enables, Anandtech would have given it just as bad of a review as they gave the OnePlus 3.
As for sharpness, it's a non-issue. You can't even tell it's lower resolution than the S7 Edge unless you bring the phone about 6 inches from you face, and even then, it's not easy to tell.
Brightness is good too. I compared it to my S7 Edge out in sunlight today and the S7 Edge was only slightly brighter. Both were easily readable though.
At this point, I am leaning towards going back to the S7 Edge and returning the OP3, but it's not an easy decision. I have changed my mind back and forth several times. If I didn't already own an S7 Edge and was deciding between paying $800 or $400, it would be an easy choice... the OnePlus 3. It is soo close to providing an experience just as good as the S7 Edge. There are only a few small areas in which it falls a little bit behind, but those small improvements aren't worth double the price.

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Yep. The panel definitely isn't bad quality. Anandtech gave it a poor review based on the calibration, not the quality of the actual panel itself. I can appreciate accurate displays and typically prefer them, but I can tell you this, most people will think the OnePlus 3 display looks great.
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Note: long post, a bit off topic, but mostly about the display.
I was very worried about this, especially as I already on OP2 and was wondering whether I should get the OP3. According to anandtech, OP3 is amazing in everything other than the screen calibration, just like the OP2. So thanks for the clarification. :highfive: It's annoying that they didn't cover some topics like audio/DAC quality and community development support. The amount of source code released is staggering, on par with a Nexus, even dash charge will work as they will release the binaries as stated on their GitHub. We got our first custom rom within an hour of the op3 announcement, which I believe is a new record. Many famous devs from other devices are moving to the OP3, like arter97, DespairFactor and sultanxda. And we already have grarak.
But I was also wondering(since I don't have a spectrophotometer) whether the default color profile on custom roms for the op2 and op3 are accurate or whether they are same as stock. I tried the threads, but couldn't find a satisfactory answer. I assume with kcal it could be fixed, but atleast for the OP2 I have found no color profiles that claim to have been a result of accurate calibration using a spectrophotometer. So I just boosted the saturation a tiny bit and it looks much better. You are right that the display looks good though, but users will never know the difference if they aren't exposed to accurate colors right? I wonder how anandtech knows that the display colors seem off just by looking at it.
And like the other user said, this is actually odd because oneplus sells through the internet, not retail, so they have no incentive to calibrate to appear "vivid", whatever that's supposed to mean. So I basically don't understand why oneplus would choose to calibrate their display like this.
About the resolution, atleast on my OP2 and a friend's Galaxy note 5(stock, friend isn't a power user) compared side to side(at different viewing distances), I could tell that the note 5 display was way better/sharper, atleast to me. And I actually went in expecting my op2 display to be better.
I don't know whether that was because of the colors or actual resolution or something else. I could also notice how freaking blue the op2 display was when we compared high res black and white pictures. To be fair, the black and white pic on the note 5 looked a bit yellow to me.
So to sum up, my questions are,
is the default color profile on custom roms for op2/op3 accurate unlike stock?
If not, is there an easy way to obtain an accurate display on these devices using kcal or something else?
Why do OEMs choose to calibrate displays inaccurately?
Is display accuracy a good thing or bad thing?
Regardless, I am most likely going to purchase an OP3(although I'm still skeptical about the display), since as you said, the numerous advantages dwarf the few minor flaws, and it costs half as much as many flagships. I'm currently in India, but will be going to the US in August to study undergrad computer science (maybe get into Android development as well!). So I'm probably going to have to wait to purchase the north american model instead of the global one for LTE reasons, will have to check. Kinda sucks. I wonder why oems have SO MANY different variants of the same phone(especially Samsung). One reason I can think of is they can't fit in all the LTE and other radios required to support all frequencies/bands without compromising on other parts of the phone.
I personally think a cool phone for some people would be one that has one large compromise, but is near perfect in everything else, like design, performance, and dev support. For example, a phone without cameras, but near perfect in everything else. Maybe if the op3 eliminated the camera and poured that money into the display and other minor flaws, it would have been even better! Just my opinion though.
Edit: hey I just realized, that's the strength of truly modular phones!!! You can choose your own compromises, like no large camera in favour of using that space for a larger battery, or some other combo! Ugh, that was so obvious..

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Note: long post, a bit off topic, but mostly about the display.
Why do OEMs choose to calibrate displays inaccurately?
Is display accuracy a good thing or bad thing?
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Looks like Carl posted his thoughts on the latest Anandtech review (regarding the display):
"With our relationships in the supply chain, we know the BOM (bill of materials) of all other flagships. Out of all the devices that the OnePlus 3 gets compared to, it is one of, if not the most expensive to make. Do you think the price delta between a 2K AMOLED and a 1080p AMOLED is huge? It's a product decision, and spec by spec is not how to judge a product. The OnePlus 3 uses latest generation AMOLED made to our specifications by Samsung. The vast majority of our users, and reviewers love Optic AMOLED. It is NOT tuned to sRGB, and was never meant to be. sRGB tuning is a niche requirement and is not the right choice for the vast majority of smartphone users. Why do you think it's hidden under developer settings on the 6P? For those who need it, we've taken note, and have added it to the next OTA."
Source: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/even-carl-tires-of-constant-nitpicking-display-options-forthcoming-on-next-ota.451786/

TritonB7 said:
Looks like Carl posted his thoughts on the latest Anandtech review (regarding the display):
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Interesting. Check out further debate in the comments.
http://www.anandtech.com/comments/10411/the-oneplus-3-review/504784
I'm no expert, but it seems like anandtech sticks to sRGB for a reason. I would not trust any party(oneplus, anandtech, anyone else) too much until I have more info. But you have to admit anandtech seem slightly more trustworthy since they give you "real" reasons and are a 3rd party reviewer unlike oneplus. Carl's reason was just that people like it and sRGB is not the standard(no reason provided). He didn't even respond to the usage of pentile amoled(last used in the Galaxy note 3 I believe). And im confused as to why he is citing expenses. That does not seem relevant (if we don't take into consideration that higher price means higher quality).
Usually your eyes just adapt to the display regardless of its color accuracy, since I don't think most people can't judge very well whether colors are accurate.(including me)
Thanks for the link though. Wonder when Android when implement some kind of color calibration standard. Or when some kind of metric for smartphone display quality/accuracy will be developed.
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Here's another link. Note the last paragraph which I've also pasted here in hide quotes.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7821/color-gamut-in-mobile-and-pcs
Seems pretty unbiased and there really doesn't seem to be any incentive for them to misconstrue their report.
http://gizmodo.com/which-smartphone-and-tablet-displays-show-the-most-accu-1660275228
Ultimately, such quibbles over color gamut and the resultant color accuracy of the display may not be able to override the dominant discourse of subjectively evaluated color in a display, and many people prefer the look of an oversaturated display to that of a properly calibrated one. But within the debates that will undoubtedly take place over such a subject, it is crucial to keep in mind that regardless of personal opinion on display colors, color accuracy is a quantitative, objective analysis of display quality. While subjectively, one may prefer a display that has a color gamut larger than sRGB, objectively, such a display isn't accurate. Of course, including a vivid display profile isn't a problem, but there should always be a display profile that makes for accurate color.
@TritonB7 if you're on the oneplus forums (I'm not), I think it would be interesting if you posted there and linked them here to see what their response is.
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I hope someone releases a guide on xda or elsewhere, how to calibrate displays accurately using kcal, or publishes a list of calibrated kcal profiles for different phones. Or maybe there already is a guide like that. I'll try searching.

Konskl said:
can you discern individual pixels because of the pentile technology that is used? that's really crucial. I'm not really bothered by some inaccuracies that the display might have. I'm using my note 4 with adaptive display which for sure is not accurate but i do like it. I think those innacuracies can be fixed with an OTA display profile or some tweaking with custom kernel. But pixelation cannot be fixed. So there you have it. Could you discern individual pixels. Ty for your review
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No, definitely not. If I put the phone about 6 inches from my eyes, I can see some very minor jagged edges on curved lines, but definitely not individual pixels. And at 1 foot plus and normal viewing distances it's very hard to tell that the screen is lower resolution than my S7 Edge.

Konskl said:
can you discern individual pixels because of the pentile technology that is used? that's really crucial. I'm not really bothered by some inaccuracies that the display might have. I'm using my note 4 with adaptive display which for sure is not accurate but i do like it. I think those innacuracies can be fixed with an OTA display profile or some tweaking with custom kernel. But pixelation cannot be fixed. So there you have it. Could you discern individual pixels. Ty for your review
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Two more things fixed. http://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3-reviewer-ota-brings-srgb-mode-and-ram-adjustments/

I just got my phone yesterday and very impressed with it having come from the Moto X Pure. I do see the display shift to blue hue when viewing the display at an angle, but I rarely ever do that and it's not enough to bother me. Also, I thought I'd link to this review regarding ota 3.1.4 ( you will need to use google translate).
http://www.frandroid.com/marques/oneplus/365110_oneplus-3-oxygenos-3-1-4-mise-a-jour-change

For me, the "Optic AMOLED" is most problematic when it comes to having lots of text on the screen and reading text. Granted, that's an extremely important feature, but I just mean that as far as the experience of playing games, consuming media, looking at and taking pictures, and so on, the average user will probably be happier with an oversaturated display (re: more Samsung-like) than they would be with more faithful color reproduction. It seems like to the layman, oversaturation = better quality display, at least to a degree.

Hey everyone, just wanted to check back in and thank everyone for their thoughts on this matter. I also wanted let you all know that Anandtech just posted an update to their original review regarding the OnePlus3 display, stating:
To say that OnePlus's new sRGB mode provides a substantial improvement in display accuracy would be an understatement. The display has gone from being the most inaccurate display that I've seen in years, to being among the most accurate displays that we have on record.
Source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/10445/revisiting-the-oneplus-3/2

gtg465x said:
No, definitely not. If I put the phone about 6 inches from my eyes, I can see some very minor jagged edges on curved lines, but definitely not individual pixels. And at 1 foot plus and normal viewing distances it's very hard to tell that the screen is lower resolution than my S7 Edge.
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Mmmmh, its not a truly bad panel but view it in horizontal position and the lack of resolution which drops to around 320 PPI is just too apparent. My guess is the panel is a few generations old. Its the most obvious part where costs have been saved and I do wonder about Op' wisdom on this. Other than that its a good phone IMHO.

Triton, that's really great to hear!
Now if just my replacement device (had irregular color hue on screen...) would be here... then I could enjoy this great phone even more!

drummerman said:
Mmmmh, its not a truly bad panel but view it in horizontal position and the lack of resolution which drops to around 320 PPI is just too apparent. My guess is the panel is a few generations old. Its the most obvious part where costs have been saved and I do wonder about Op' wisdom on this. Other than that its a good phone IMHO.
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If it was a few generations old, it would not be accurate or efficient

I can't wait for the update. These updates will bring positivity to OnePlus 3. I'm waiting for update before root.
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brickedvice said:
Are you serious? The S7 display is WAY better in every aspect.
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I'm serious. I have both phones right here. And I did say that the S7 Edge display is a little brighter and a little sharper, but I don't see how that makes it WAY better, especially now that OnePlus has provided an update that calibrates it to be just as accurate as the S7 display in sRGB mode.
Many aspects are the same. Both are covered in Gorilla Glass 4. They have equal viewing angles. They are both AMOLED and made by Samsung. They both have similarly accurate colors in sRGB mode.

Anyone think the display's white is heavily yellow tinted?

Hi, I have a VIE-AL10 (the China one), and I've been using the phone fine for a couple weeks, until yesterday when I was using a oneplus 3 side by side and noticed the white on the p9 plus is very yellow-ish compared to the Oneplus 3. So I pulled out other phones too and indeed, the p9 plus's whites are noticeably less white than on other phones like the lg v10 and oneplus. I even compared it to a p9 (meaning the smaller phone) and even the p9's whites are much whiter.
Has anyone noticed this? Or is my unit defective? I don't really mind all that much (I mean, I didn't even notice it until I had another phone side by side) , just a bit weird. (btw I have gone into settings and try to make colors more cool, and nah, white still come out yellow.

Amoled display has lesser white compared to IPS.

If the whole screen is uniform in that yellow tint then I guess it is fine, mine is a tad bit reddish on the upper quadrant of the display. Im a little lazy to send it back for a replacement but i have a full year to do so anyway.

I have the same phone and I too think it is tinted a little too yellow, even though I selected "Cold" as color tone under display settings. I came from a Z5 premium where I totally loved the screen. Hopefully future firmware revisions provide more options to change this.

i compare side by side with another p9plus, and noticed mine looks bit yellowish.
this happened to my samsung s1 too...

Screen feels a bit hollow

I'm wondering if it's just my phone or if they are all like this.
When tapping the screen with my finger/nail it feels a bit hollow or tin-y if that makes sense?
Anyone else?

It's probably because of the mid range CPU, mate.
On a serious note, I haven't noticed anything like this.

You will notice there are no speaker grilles, Its because they are behind the screen, hence why it may feel a bit hollow

Exactly what i noticed first thing I started using this phone. Coming from oneplus 8pro taping on screen on oneplus 8pro feels more sturdier compare to pixel.

Coming from 3xl I have noticed it pretty much straight away. I can live with it but personally that bothers me more than plastic back would.
Overall phone is a mixed feeling experience without real alternative in my eyes. Roll on Pixel 6 ?

aurichie said:
The Pixel 5 display feels a little spongey to me like the budget iPad with its non-laminated display. I didn't find it particularly pleasing when I first started using it, but I'm getting used to it now and find it less bothersome.
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Same with my P5. What I particularly noticed is that the screen at the top right feels most "hollow" and makes some kind of rattling noise (if you get what I mean). I suppose this is either because of the inscreen speaker at the top, or because of the camera OIS? Do you get that different noise too when tapping at the top right display area?

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