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Hello,
I've been patiently following this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1804665 for the past several months. Thanks to the selfless, hard work of Hashcode, dhacker, and also sylentprofet and jarveson (and apologies to anyone I haven't credited), the recent builds seem to have arrived at a level of functionality and stability that I'm thinking of trying to install my first custom ROM (I've already had SafeStrap 3.0.x installed for months).
My question is the following: I understand from the above thread and from Hashcode's blog that now the external SD card will be used as the default storage location. I was wondering what happens when an app is "installed to SD". From my previous experience on an original Motorola Droid, I know that "installing to SD" would move some files to a special directory on the SD card. I was wondering if this would cause collisions if the same app was installed under multiple ROM slots using SafeStrap.
Thank you for entertaining this newbie's question.
Actually the way I understand it is there is still the internal storage and external SD which are the same, but the internal storage gets partitioned separate from the rest of the storage so if you install an app to the SD card, I think it just goes in a regular folder. The system thinks the /system partition is in the regular storage for it but it actually is tricked to the internal storage.
I hope that makes sense.
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... so if you install an app to the SD card, I think it just goes in a regular folder ...
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Thank you very much for your response.
Is this regular folder on the external SD card? If so, does it mean that this regular folder will be shared by the ROMs in multiple slots if I have the same app installed under the ROM in multiple slots?
Thank you again.
alvin_a_garcia said:
Thank you very much for your response.
Is this regular folder on the external SD card? If so, does it mean that this regular folder will be shared by the ROMs in multiple slots if I have the same app installed under the ROM in multiple slots?
Thank you again.
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If it's on the external SD then yes it is.
I had the same doubt when I recently started using ROMs on my Droid3. This thread helped me a lot.
I have lots of apps in my stock ROM that I've installed before rooting it. Do I have to install it all again on external SD? If yes, do I have to use a new flashed ROM or the stock ROM?
Thiago AmP said:
I had the same doubt when I recently started using ROMs on my Droid3. This thread helped me a lot.
I have lots of apps in my stock ROM that I've installed before rooting it. Do I have to install it all again on external SD? If yes, do I have to use a new flashed ROM or the stock ROM?
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On minimoto I noticed it was using the exact same sd configuration as stock, perhaps because its stock based. On CM10 the external SD card is the default /sd card but you can still access the internal sd.
Regardless of how the sd card is configured you'd still have to reinstall apps when going to another ROM. I recommend using Titanium Backup then its quite simple to restore apps on another ROM. For SD data you could just manually copy and paste the folders from the internal to external SD.
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On minimoto I noticed it was using the exact same sd configuration as stock, perhaps because its stock based. On CM10 the external SD card is the default /sd card but you can still access the internal sd.
Regardless of how the sd card is configured you'd still have to reinstall apps when going to another ROM. I recommend using Titanium Backup then its quite simple to restore apps on another ROM. For SD data you could just manually copy and paste the folders from the internal to external SD.
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Thanks! So, a separate partition on SD Card would be a waste of "space", since the ROM's doesn't share acess to this partition. I've only tried with CM10, I'm going to try with MavROM and Minimoto, but i'm almost sure that I'll end backing all up with Titanium.
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Thanks! So, a separate partition on SD Card would be a waste of "space", since the ROM's doesn't share acess to this partition. I've only tried with CM10, I'm going to try with MavROM and Minimoto, but i'm almost sure that I'll end backing all up with Titanium.
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Sort of kind of. Basically this would be useful if you want to share apps and their settings between the custom and Stock ROMs installed on your phone [may be odd on an app by app basis depending on a few things but a good number *should* work [I dont use external SD as it eats the battery and is MUCH slower than using the /data partition so haven't tested this], so following should be close if not 100% correct
You would in stock ROM set your apps2SD app up [I DO NOT advise you to use the sdcard function found in manage apps>app area instead you should be using an app like Link2SD that actually creates a partition on your external SD and formats it to EXT3 or EXT4 [suggest using EXT4]. This way things like widgets still work whereas they don't when using the built-in android function [this happens as android uses a folder on the SDCard [which is FAT32 by default] and file permissions needed to run Widgets and some code can't be copied as needed on to a FAT32 partition so by using an app that partitions [or the recovery can do this but you would still need an app to manage which apps are in this partion] the SDCard app instead actually formats part of the card to the EXT 3 or 4 File system so it is the same as the /data partion so Android can copy EVERYTHING and nothing is affected and broken.
So you open your SDCard app manager in Stock ROM and format the External SD [THIS WILL ERASE EVERYTHING RUN APPROPRIATE BACKUPS BEFORE PARTIONING [move them to a computer and back if you dont have enough internal storage to absorb your data]]
When that completes open the app again [usually needs a restart first to mount the new partition before continuing].
Once you get that done open the Manager app and select the apps to move to this new partition.
CUSTOM ROM: Now once that is done boot in to safestrap and either setup a Custom ROM or change to it's boot slot. Next boot in to Custom ROM and install the same SD Card App Manager you used in Stock.
Next, once you open it it should say it found a partition and ask if you want to use it if it doesn't and just lists the app view the settings in the Manager app and HAVE IT SETUP AN EXISTING PARTITION. DONT PARTITION YOUR SDCard AGAIN [or all your newly moved data will bite it].
Now restart and allow it to boot back in to the Custom ROM again. Once this happens all the apps you moved to the SDCard partition should magically appear and be usable.
SO LONG AS YOUR STOCK AND CUSTOM ROMs ARE THE SAME VERSIONS DONT DO THIS IF YOU HAVE ICS ON THE SAFE SIDE AND JELLYBEAN AS A CUSTOM ROM IT WILL MOST LIKELY CAUSE ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS
Hi All,
I have an LG L90 Device with a full Internal Memory. It has gotten to a point where I have to delete majority of my apps to get all my things syncing, but this is really becoming annoying to deal with now.
I do have a lot of apps (I guess 35+), but I never had an issue with Internal Memory becoming full in the past. I also have a 32 GB SD Card where I am saving all photos, videos, and music (though, I rely solely on Spotify now).
I had tried the Link2SD Method, but it isn't as effective for me, as the linked apps somehow stop responding and they just disappear on my phone, prompting me to reinstall.
I really want to fix this, as I love this phone, but just hate the fact that Lollipop will not let me automatically install all apps to the SD Card, and my Internal Memory is just full, restricting me from doing many things I would like to do with the phone.
I would love help here to fix these issues.
Hmm, Bump? Would love any possible help on fixing this issue...
Another thing I also wanted to bring up is that when I do link apps to my external SD card via LINK2SD those apps somehow become unlinked, I assume when the app updates they automatically go back to the internal memory? Not entirely sure...
me too
I think a lot of people have this issue with a "system data" checked on config =>storage, i just have install another time my lollipop 5.0.2, and right after install i checked and this system data was about 4,21 GB, i would be very happy if someone knows a way to delete, or give a way to make this ocupy less room.already did wipe cache, and nothing changed. Maybe flash a tiny rom that have all functions working on the phone, just to mention, already tried some, but always have to do an emergency flash with stock rom again. As my brother above, we waiting for some advice and tutorials !
Cheers all !
a program for Android like CCleaner would be great
would clean crap and uninstall unused APP residue
CCleaner APP might help you
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.piriform.ccleaner&hl=en
Peace
Ricci
a1yet said:
a program for Android like CCleaner would be great
would clean crap and uninstall unused APP residue
CCleaner APP might help you
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.piriform.ccleaner&hl=en
Peace
Ricci
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Thanks for the suggestion, unfortunately I have tried identical apps such as Clean Master, and it just cleans up small megabits of junk files, I am trying to find a way to at least free up a gigabyte of storage which for some complex reason seems like a really daunting task...
What have you done recently and when did you notice internal storage is full? Also what rom?
For me when I installed a custom rom for the first time, I believe that I had something extra in /cache/backup/ that caused the full storage. I believe it was a twrp backup.
hi all..anyone has the same problem??? i'm so angry, this phone is always full!!! and link2sd doesn't work
Link2SD works if you follow the instructions and have a partition on external SD formatted as ext4 (fat32 won't work to move apps). Or go to Marshmallow and use adopted storage. In any case make sure you got a reliable SD and at least Class10 speed.
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Link2SD works if you follow the instructions and have a partition on external SD formatted as ext4 (fat32 won't work to move apps). Or go to Marshmallow and use adopted storage. In any case make sure you got a reliable SD and at least Class10 speed.
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is it possible to use adoptable storage lg l90? i read isn't supported by LG
marcus82 said:
is it possible to use adoptable storage lg l90? i read isn't supported by LG
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Yes, it's possible. I'm using it now with RR Marshmallow 6.0 1, TWRP 3.0.0 DarkBlue, Open Gapps and a 16GB Class10 SanDisk uSD.
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Yes, it's possible. I'm using it now with RR Marshmallow 6.0 1, TWRP 3.0.0 DarkBlue, Open Gapps and a 16GB C10 SanDisk uSD.
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WOW.. is there a guide? thanks
Simply insert the uSD and go to Storage and USB, tap the 3 dots menu and format it to use as internal storage. It will format the card and move all data from /sdcard to it and movable apps to it if you choose to. You won't access internal memory anymore.
Make sure you use a fast and reliable card. Also check the pros and cons first.
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Simply insert the uSD and go to Storage and USB, tap the 3 dots menu and format it to use as internal storage. It will format the card and move all data from /sdcard to it and movable apps to it if you choose to. You won't access internal memory anymore.
Make sure you use a fast and reliable card. Also check the pros and cons first.
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only a question: why You won't access internal memory anymore. ?
by file manager with root it will be impossibile to view internal memory? only sdcard ll be accessible?
Internal memory will be used to apps and apps data only, no user accessible files or folders. Of course you can use a file manager with root access to browse the files/folders, but all user files will be on uSD (it will become /sdcard).
PS: as I said, Marshmallow will format your uSD, so copy any file you may need first.
Oook thanks
all it works!!! now my girlfriend's phone has enough memory!!!! great thanks a lot!
Hello.
Its been a while and I've been using the SD as an internal memory for a while. While I love this feature there is a very weird thing with this feature that if you move an app to SD and if it gets an update, it gets moved back to the internal storage which is slightly inconvenient. However more inconvenient is the fact that all the app data gets lost in this updation procedure.
Would any kind soul suggest a workaround or a script to get around this annoying glitch? I mean I really love this feature but it obviously needs polish from Google.
Also another thing is while shifting these apps back to SD, it sometimes says not enough space (despite having lots of it). On the second try it shifts. Any idea what's up with this?
Thanks!
I am having the exact same issues and the same complain.
Being on a device having only 4GB of internal storage (that too only 2.28 GB usable) this "adopt as internal" feature in Marshmallow really came as a boon. However with these issues the whole idea becomes worthless.
I did a bit of search on Google about this feature. For nexus phones on marshmallow there is a "Migrate data" option to the SD card adopted as internal. However this is not available for our devices. It only shows up in the internal storage and lets you migrate from SD to internal? Grrrr....what good would that do?
Any kind of workaround would really help and convince me to keep this phone for another year maybe
I think you're getting confused. We too have the same option but this moving back to the internal storage on updation is something Google needs to address..
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I think you're getting confused. We too have the same option but this moving back to the internal storage on updation is something Google needs to address..
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Since google's nexus phones lack sdcard slots, this feature was probably introduced keeping android one series phones
in mind, however there is so much confusion regarding it's objective at the moment,for it is only partial implementation of sdcard as internal memory. After updates I am aleardy down to 500mb space on internal storage, the point is if despite using sdcard as internal storage if my original storage space still runs out--what purpose does it serve then? I would have used link2sd otherwise,but this feature put me like many others in dilemma.
Yeah mate, really disappointing..
I have the exact same problem
What was google thinking before releasing this half finished feature
I hope there is an update soon to fix this problem
Some apps disappear after reboot
After moving apps to sd, apps like mxplayer, Microsoft word etc just disappear.
They are automatically uninstalled.
Can anyone confirm this??
Also it would be great if someone finds a workaround these problems
Yup Firefox disappears everytime I install it. So do many other apps..
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Yup Firefox disappears everytime I install it. So do many other apps..
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This is so not cool man.
Whats the use of this feature if apps keep on disappearing
My observation is that the apps which directly get installed on SD card have these issues.
The apps that gets installed on internal first and then moved to SD, survives reboot.
Maybe app developers can make changes to their apps to support this functionality.
Clearly a half assed attempt from Google on this..I re-flashed my ROM and didn't chose the portable storage option. Link2sd doesn't work on Marshmallow yet so I'm just stuck with a typical 4GB internal memory crap phone.
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Clearly a half assed attempt from Google on this..I re-flashed my ROM and didn't chose the portable storage option. Link2sd doesn't work on Marshmallow yet so I'm just stuck with a typical 4GB internal memory crap phone.
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I hope that from here on this feature will only improve.
Lets pray that bugs will be fixed soon, and google doesn't scarps this project like other projects.
I am still using it as phone storage.. well something is better than nothing
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Clearly a half assed attempt from Google on this..I re-flashed my ROM and didn't chose the portable storage option. Link2sd doesn't work on Marshmallow yet so I'm just stuck with a typical 4GB internal memory crap phone.
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Make two partitions on your sd card, select portable storage option in Marshmallow, install apps2sd,it has all features of link2sd for free,I am using it myself.
same issue, app disappears or data gets lost or sometimes all apps start crashing untill reboot (when this happens cant modify/write anything on sd card, reboot fixes this though )
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same issue, app disappears or data gets lost or sometimes all apps start crashing untill reboot (when this happens cant modify/write anything on sd card, reboot fixes this though )
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Like I said before, simply use sdcard as portable(don't forget to make two partitions) and use apps2sd(it also has an inbuilt partitioning tool), this is by far the best setup as of now to overcome internal memory constraint
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Like I said before, simply use sdcard as portable(don't forget to make two partitions) and use apps2sd(it also has an inbuilt partitioning tool), this is by far the best setup as of now to overcome internal memory constraint
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But i will have to root to do that right?
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Like I said before, simply use sdcard as portable(don't forget to make two partitions) and use apps2sd(it also has an inbuilt partitioning tool), this is by far the best setup as of now to overcome internal memory constraint
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Hi @arshavin69,
I am trying to use app2sd as you explained, but I am stuck on 2nd partition mounting.
I created 2 partitions by Minitool Partition Manager (because app2sd internal partition manager cause app force close): 1st partitition fat32, 2nd partition ext4.
Once booted up, I choose "portable" and then I open app2sd: app2sd say 2nd partition is not mounted and ask to remount or recreate mount script.
If I try to remount I get an error: mounting /dev/block/vold/179:66 on /data/sdext2 failed No such file or directory.
If I try to recreate the mount script, app2sd ask to choose sd card 2nd partition and file system type.
I am choose /dev/block/mmcblk1p2 and ext4 file system, then app2sd ask to reboot.
After rebooting app2sd says again that 2nd partition is not mounted and ask to remount or recreate mount script.
Could you please explain steb by step what I have to do?
Thank you!
SOLVED dismissing the notification when the phone ask to choose the sd card mount (portable).
DarkAlvy said:
But i will have to root to do that right?
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Of course!! You can't use even link2sd without root.
DarkAlvy said:
same issue, app disappears or data gets lost or sometimes all apps start crashing untill reboot (when this happens cant modify/write anything on sd card, reboot fixes this though )
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if your apps disappear after reboot, just transfer them to internal storage and it won't disappear after that
6.0.1 has made this feature unusable.
after updating to 6.0.1 most of the apps cant be moved to external sd.
internal storage gets filled with google apps
this really sucks
abhijitkadam03 said:
After moving apps to sd, apps like mxplayer, Microsoft word etc just disappear.
They are automatically uninstalled.
Can anyone confirm this??
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Exactly! This is the issue that I was facing.
Can you change the stock partition size on safestrap's stock slot at all? It shows two internal memory slots, one at 3.01gb and the other is 8gb. What is going on with that other 5gb and why isn't it used?
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Can you change the stock partition size on safestrap's stock slot at all? It shows two internal memory slots, one at 3.01gb and the other is 8gb. What is going on with that other 5gb and why isn't it used?
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Not 100% sure, but I believe the non-user 8gb is split between /webtop, /cd, /preinstall, /system, /data, /cache/. /webtop and /preinstall alone eat up 2gb of it.
And, no, it can't be changed. Our resident awesome developer gave it a try a while back, and found that apparently the bootloader checks at power-on to see if the partitions are all "correct". If they're not, it pops an error screen, and there's nowhere to go from there; it pretty much soft-bricks the phone until the stock configuration is restored via fastboot image.
If we had an unlockable bootloader, then it's possible that this restriction could be removed. However, we don't - based on some poking at it by another member, it doesn't even recognize commands to pull information for/enter an unlock code - so we're stuck with stock partition sizes and virtual slots.
If you really have no choice but to use the stock "slot", you might want to look into buying a big SD card, getting Link2SD, and devoting part of said SD card to it. If you're using KitKat, the built-in App2SD might be adequate, but for Lollipop/Marshmallow, the 3gb just...isn't enough. App2SD isn't effective enough.
Otherwise, get a decent SD card and write the internal 8gb off as system storage. Make a slot with a 4gb /data size (the biggest we can go), and 700mb-1gb /system size. Install a gapps package that contains anything you would normally go to the Play Store and download separately; this installs them to /system, leaving /data more free for downloaded apps.
For large apps, use App2SD where you can to shift part of them from /data to the internal 8gb.
If you don't plan on flashing new nightlies very often, you can get apps to convert other apps into system apps, storing them in /system as well. The problem here is that they'll be wiped out whenever a new ROM is flashed, so you'd have to devise some method of backing them up and flashing them after the new nightly (ZipMe might work).
Which ROM would you recommend for Honor 4X - Che2-L11 ( cherryplus, Kirin 620)? I need to fix my girlfriend's phone
She needs stable ROM with working radio (so Nougat from here won't work), headphones, good battery life and enough internal storage (or possibility to move apps to SD or use adoptable storage with microSD) for apps.
Android 4.4.2 was relatively fine, but it is old. Then we upgraded to stock 6.0 (B570), however she had problems with lack of internal storage - it was not possible to move apps to SD card (4.4.2 was better in that) and adoptable storage didn't work properly (apps are crashing, reporting not enough space, new apps can't be installed etc). Then we tried RROS on Nougat from ksrt12, where adoptable storage seems to work fine, but radio and headphones don't work and there is quite high battery drain (15% per night with data disabled).
Which ROM would you recommend?
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Which ROM would you recommend?
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If you are OK with Android 6, you can try Modaco. This was the rom I used before I switched to RROS recently.
You should get a Class 10 SD card (32 Gb if possible). Install Apps2SD from play store and partition the card. First partition FAT32, second partition Ext4, then you move apps to SD card's second partition. (If you wish, you can create three partitions, and use one of them as 'adoptable storage'. I did that.) Modaco rom has a lot of free space on the system partition, so you can move many apps there, which also saves space. But apps that have been moved to system partition will be moved back to internal storage when they are updated.
I had so much free space that I never came close to filling up the storage. But I think regular XDA users would get kinda bored using this rom, as it is basically EMUI with a little bit stock feel.
The only things not working were the default clock and the compass. Clock you can just install another clock app from play store. Compass. .. I never found how to fix. Detecting headphones works and all the other hardware things, as this is basically a modified EMUI 4. I should also add that I don't know if you can flash this from RROS, as that would be "downgrading" from Android 7 to Android 6.
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If you are OK with Android 6, you can try Modaco. This was the rom I used before I switched to RROS recently.
You should get a Class 10 SD card (32 Gb if possible). Install Apps2SD from play store and partition the card. First partition FAT32, second partition Ext4, then you move apps to SD card's second partition. (If you wish, you can create three partitions, and use one of them as 'adoptable storage'. I did that.) Modaco rom has a lot of free space on the system partition, so you can move many apps there, which also saves space. But apps that have been moved to system partition will be moved back to internal storage when they are updated.
I had so much free space that I never came close to filling up the storage. But I think regular XDA users would get kinda bored using this rom, as it is basically EMUI with a little bit stock feel.
The only things not working were the default clock and the compass. Clock you can just install another clock app from play store. Compass. .. I never found how to fix. Detecting headphones works and all the other hardware things, as this is basically a modified EMUI 4. I should also add that I don't know if you can flash this from RROS, as that would be "downgrading" from Android 7 to Android 6.
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Thank you for the advice. I see Modaco has 2 ROMs - EMUI style and Stock style beta. Which one did you use?
With use of Apps2SD, does it move all apps to Ext4 partition on the card, or just selected ones? Or is it basically just remapping internal storage to Ext4 partition on the card?
If I have just 16 GB card for this phone, how do you suggest to repartition it?
If there is so much free space on the system partition, isn't it possible to decrease size of system partition somehow and enlarge internal storage instead?
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Thank you for the advice. I see Modaco has 2 ROMs - EMUI style and Stock style beta. Which one did you use?
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It must have been the Stock style beta. I didn't know there was another version.
lapist said:
With use of Apps2SD, does it move all apps to Ext4 partition on the card, or just selected ones? Or is it basically just remapping internal storage to Ext4 partition on the card?
If there is so much free space on the system partition, isn't it possible to decrease size of system partition somehow and enlarge internal storage instead?
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Apps2SD moves the files of apps to the SD card and creates symbolic links, so the system "thinks" the apps are still on the internal storage. In Apps2SD this process is called to link apps. Just so you know the terminology. It is very configurable, so you can choose which apps to move/link to the SD card.
What you describe, to repartition /system, sounds like a good idea, but I don't know enough about Android to say if it is possible. You would probably need some recovery program that can repartition the internal storage. Can TWRP do that? I don't know. This is above my league, sorry.
UPDATE: I found this guide for how to repartition the internal storage. But I haven't tried it.
I installed that MoDaCo EMUI style ROM, partitioned my SD card and made Apps2SD working. So far it looks fine.
However, does it still make sense to use MoDaCo EMUI ROM, which is based on B506 firmware, when there is B580 stock available? Yes MoDaCo has more internal memory free (3.28 GB vs 2.50 GB), but it has security patches only from March 2016, while B580 has July 2017 and who knows how good tweaks Huawei added since B506...
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who knows how good tweaks Huawei added since B506...
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I have two Che2-L11 phones, and one of them was running B580 until a few weeks ago. The few small improvements Huawei added are not even worth the upgrade. However, if security concerns you, I would give RROS another try. About your headphones problem, I don't see why it should not work. It works on my phone. (Note three-conductor is detected and switched on, but not four-conductor.)
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I have two Che2-L11 phones, and one of them was running B580 until a few weeks ago. The few small improvements Huawei added are not even worth the upgrade. However, if security concerns you, I would give RROS another try. About your headphones problem, I don't see why it should not work. It works on my phone. (Note three-conductor is detected and switched on, but not four-conductor.)
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I also don't know why headphones without microphone didn't work with RROS for us, but it can be also related to parts of firmware that are not flashed together with RROS and they remain from previous full firmware (like modem firmware, hifi.img, dsp.img etc). Also before we flashed RROS, we had Marshmallow B570 showing Balong firmware (in the past, we upgraded from 4.4.2 to B570, but it seems she had Malaysian region set in the phone for some reason - I fixed it now) in the phone.
Unfortunatelly my girlfriend (she has this phone) wants to have headphones and radio fully working (RROS doesn't have radio as far as I know), so it seems as no go for RROS...
Can you help me to find a valid link to download modoco r7 EMUI style plz.
Taito2020 said:
Can you help me to find a valid link to download modoco r7 EMUI style plz.
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Did you try this download link? (Please read the instructions carefully. )
Yes , but unfortunately I got connection refused ... did you try to open the link cause I got error "connection refused" ? just to check the link.