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It seems that Kindle Fire HD is the best Android tablet at this moment. I was hoping purchase a kindle fire HD, while travelling to US. Now, I am having second thoughts. I am from India and Amazon marketplace for Android is not available here. So, the only hope for me to completely utilize the Kindle Fire HD is to flash it with a custom/vanilla ROM.
However, based on the comments here and in the developers section, it seems Kindle fire HD is completely locked down and I have not seen any custom ROM yet. Will custom ROMs show up any time soon? What is your opinion on this purchase?
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It seems that Kindle Fire HD is the best Android tablet at this moment. I was hoping purchase a kindle fire HD, while travelling to US. Now, I am having second thoughts. I am from India and Amazon marketplace for Android is not available here. So, the only hope for me to completely utilize the Kindle Fire HD is to flash it with a custom/vanilla ROM.
However, based on the comments here and in the developers section, it seems Kindle fire HD is completely locked down and I have not seen any custom ROM yet. Will custom ROMs show up any time soon? What is your opinion on this purchase?
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There are always alternative app markets out there (I dont know any off my head at the moment.) The Kindle fire speakers, Display in my opinion make the FIre better then the Nexus. But the nexus is more advanced in rom stages already. So if you don't wanna wait, go with the lesser of devices, and don't buy something hoping it gets roms really fast. It could still be awhile. But I perfer the KFHD if your willing to wait it out, and just have fun with it as it is.
iMJets said:
There are always alternative app markets out there (I dont know any off my head at the moment.) The Kindle fire speakers, Display in my opinion make the FIre better then the Nexus. But the nexus is more advanced in rom stages already. So if you don't wanna wait, go with the lesser of devices, and don't buy something hoping it gets roms really fast. It could still be awhile. But I perfer the KFHD if your willing to wait it out, and just have fun with it as it is.
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I agree, you don't want to buy something hoping for developer support that doesn't exist. With no Amazon Video Prime available in India the Nexus is a better fit.
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I agree, you don't want to buy something hoping for developer support that doesn't exist. With no Amazon Video Prime available in India the Nexus is a better fit.
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Completely agree. Having the Google Play store on your device isn't that difficult, but you will learn that many of the apps refuse to install so you have to side load most of them. If you can't access any of the Amazon content, there is little value in the Kindle over the Nexus.
I would not purchase the KFHD in dreams of getting a custom rom. I pre-ordered mine knowing what I was getting into but I hated it, even after rooting and running gapps, to an extent. The KFHD is nothing but a gimped version of android and won't be where I like it until the bootloader is unlocked and custom roms made, similar to what you are wishing.
The KFHD traffic on android forums are SLOW. I returned my KFHD for a Nexus 7 and I loved it the second I took it out of the box. The only reason I'd keep the KFHD is if I had amazon prime and loved their ecosystem, except I don't.
I do have to say, I loved the hardware, it was great. Screen is colorful, vibrant and the sound was fantastic but that was it. The software killed the device for me. I have not seen any updates on bootloader status, so it could either be tomorrow, six months, a year or never. I wouldn't bank on it. I wasn't happy and wanted a fully functional device which I got in the Nexus.
I have had the KFHD for a couple days. I have to say I like my OG Fire better. I also have a Nexus 7. I am probably returning the KFHD. It is too locked up for me. IT also ticked me off when I pulled it out of the box and saw the ads on the lockscreen. The suggested apps instead of my favorite apps on the home page also made me mad. Also the lack of a native camera app. There is a hidden system camera app but you can't add it to favorites. At least someone made a app so the Nexus 7 can use its native camera app. Stick with the N7 for now. There is a update for the KFHD but I do not know when. I was talking to a Amazon rep and they said it will be soon.
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The only reason I'd keep the KFHD is if I had amazon prime and loved their ecosystem, except I don't.
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I am in India and I thought the same when I started handling the KFHD... However, after rooting and getting my favorite apps on (dolphin, gapps, mxplayer, etc, am pretty happy with it.. I know a nexus would be better(open vvs locked, more compatible apps) but for $50 for the 16g and better speakers, I will stick with the KFHD. Also it gives me a chance to display my "hacking" skills... Lol...
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I bought Kindle Fire HD for what it is:
Best Speakers in class
Best Wi-Fi in class
Best format and weight for one-handed handling
Best Video Conference device (combination of excellent quality front camera, very good microphone, clear and loud speakers, bright screen)
Best tablet for Amazon Prime users
Amazon App Market is very good, not as diverse as Google Play, of course, but most of top games and content consumption apps are there. Now I only need to add Google Music and Youtube and I'll be all set. Rest of Google Apps are better fit for location aware devices, like smartphones.
The Kinfle Fire HD to me is a home companion device, not a road warrior. I can now finally stream Amazom Prime video in HD resolution ~ 100 yards away from my router at the edge of the property outside and still see and hear everything perfect without constant caching. No other tablet can even pretend to be able to do this. I still have my Google Galaxy Nexus phone for all custom ROMs and customizations till the cows come home.
P.S. Oh, and I don't mind special offers that Amazon puts on this device. Who can refuse freebies like $10 Gift card or $3 in Amazon Music? Many offers are Amazon Store specific and once you realize that Amazon is already the best eCommerce site in US with best variety, lowest prices, fastest shipping and best product review system, this is like a cherry on your pudding.
I'll put my two cents here. I'll summarize my feelings after owning a Kindle Fire HD for a week.
Pros:
Great Sound (Dolby audio)
One of the best 7" displays out there
Amazon Prime benefits including discounts on books, videos, and music.
Descent specifications (1GB RAM, 16GB, and 720p)
Competitively Priced $199 US
Cons:
Clumsy Launcher and ROM compared to stock Android:
"Carousel" likes to reload apps you don't want after reboots
Carousel is a bit large and obnoxious
No changing wallpapers or any other UI elements
Opt-out of Ads is $15 (without Root)
Amazon's App Store isn't nearly as large as Google Play (50,000 vs 500,000)
Locked Bootloader = no custom ROMs anytime soon (most likely not in 2012, but I'm still optimistic)
Limited Development/Support currently (Note: it's only a month old right now)
I would give it 85/100 right now.
With that said, this is a great device. The major limitation right now is the software, Amazon goofed up there.
Rooting opens up a lot of doors for this device e.g. Play Store, non-stock Launchers, and permission capabilities. Though everyone needs to be careful about this because there is no backup/restore mechanism for potential mistakes.
Summary
I'm hopeful that future developments for this device are more promising than the current environment.
I don't want to discourage anyone about getting this device if you like or use Amazon's stuff like Kindle, Prime, or other services.
But I think if you are looking here (XDA) you probably want something stock or not locked down like the Nexus 7 if you want to tweak to your hearts content.
Hello . Will rooting the KFHD will allow us to buy ebooks at later point of time thru amazon services. i may be interested as a android tablet which will allow freedom to user on downloading apps and games and also to read ebooks. will rooting would help . if so i can think of buying one. please let me know.
Yes, even on a rooted KFHD you can buy and read amazon ebooks. Or you can use another source for paid or free books!
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If you want great sound for games and movies yes not to forget about the great screen it has trust me its worth getting
Im using mine right now
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Kindle Fire HD vs ?
brkumar said:
It seems that Kindle Fire HD is the best Android tablet at this moment. I was hoping purchase a kindle fire HD, while travelling to US. Now, I am having second thoughts. I am from India and Amazon marketplace for Android is not available here. So, the only hope for me to completely utilize the Kindle Fire HD is to flash it with a custom/vanilla ROM.
However, based on the comments here and in the developers section, it seems Kindle fire HD is completely locked down and I have not seen any custom ROM yet. Will custom ROMs show up any time soon? What is your opinion on this purchase?
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brkumar,
Really the answer is a mixed bag as you are seeing with the responses.
As a developer, we like the Kindle Fire HD 7" since everything has been
a challenge. We have successfully piped over Jelly Bean on the Fire HD
but it was by no means easy and Buggy, well let's just say we need
another year. Then you have to ask yourself, is the time better spent
on the Asus Transformer, Nexus 7 or 10? The quick answer is yes,
the long term answer is probably no. Really, the Kindle Fire HD 7"
is a great piece of hardware and it is based on a solid TI Chipset
OMAP4460. I have found the sound to be better than the Nexus 7,
the screen clarity is not bad either. We run HD Videos on the
Kindle Fire HD 7" and really notice that Dolby is running, very
nice audio. The Kindle Fire HD 7" also "feels" solid in the hand.
The Kindle is responsive and is quite smooth when transitioning
from application to application. They did a great job on the screen
outdoor glare is almost non-existent. The unit is sturdy, we have
dropped it several times without damage. Finally at $199, not bad.
Amazon Store is nothing to highlight, so you are not missing
out. Just Root the device and install Google Play, you will have
plenty of options.
My complaints are a few. The mini output jack does not support
a mic. The volume up and down keys feel flimsy with little
tactile feedback. No rear facing Camera. You have to buy
a charger, they do not include one. Most of the VoIP applications
seem to have a problem with internal Mic, although Skype
does work.
These are my personal opinions, so take it
as just this, a XDA User opinion.
That is my ten cents.
Oh by the way, we do own 12 other tablets, so we have
been able to do a side by side comparison.
Thanks for the information, much appreciated!
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Kindle Fire HD 7" Pro's and Con's
gitlygit said:
Thanks for the information, much appreciated!
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gitlygit,
So are you going to get one and add to the ever growing XDA Kindle Community?
We would love to have you here adding to this wonderful community!
Keep us posted.
Hey kindle owners ! I need your advice and also opinions on the 7' Kindle fire HD...!
I am a student and basically I'm getting a tablet for reading and also for movies/music. Before I actually buy it, I need to know what I should expect from getting a Kindle for my daily use. There will be a lil of light gaming tho.
I've read that there's no USB OTG function for kindle. One of the cons because this tablet is suppose to last at least for 5 years. Paying about 200usd on my own as a student so it'll be a painful experience if I don't know what I should expect from this tablet.
All opinions and advice are much appreciated !
You would be alot happier with the Nexus 7 (2013) device. That device has alot more freedom. Custom ROM's, Recovery and all that other stuff that the Kindle Fire HD (2013) does not have because Amazon doesn't like us on a different ROM.
I just acquired my Kindle and I am using it for the same reason. It has limited internal storage but I use Copy (20Gb) and GDrive (15Gb) to backup online (for free of course) and move files from my computer, phone and Kindle.
Rooting wasn't hard at all since these fine folks put together some great tools to use. I am running CM11 and I have yet to find any issues whatsoever.
I have only been using it a few days but I can see this being a huge asset for school.
Regard,
FB
You can't get a brand new HD 2012 anymore. Only used. And used products are the worst. They could be selling you a stolen device or a half broken device.
Sent from my Kindle Fire HD 7 running PAC-man
wire55 said:
You can't get a brand new HD 2012 anymore. Only used. And used products are the worst. They could be selling you a stolen device or a half broken device.
Sent from my Kindle Fire HD 7 running PAC-man
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Hello. I'm getting myself the new Kindle Fire HD 7' . Don't see any reason why I should go for the older one.
FireBean said:
I just acquired my Kindle and I am using it for the same reason. It has limited internal storage but I use Copy (20Gb) and GDrive (15Gb) to backup online (for free of course) and move files from my computer, phone and Kindle.
Rooting wasn't hard at all since these fine folks put together some great tools to use. I am running CM11 and I have yet to find any issues whatsoever.
I have only been using it a few days but I can see this being a huge asset for school.
Regard,
FB
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One of the answers I've been praying to see. haha.. How is reading on the 7' tablet? Is it too small ? I'm afraid that I won't be able to read and need zoom in just to read a part of the page. ( especially magazines) Anyway thanks for replying! :good::good:
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You would be alot happier with the Nexus 7 (2013) device. That device has alot more freedom. Custom ROM's, Recovery and all that other stuff that the Kindle Fire HD (2013) does not have because Amazon doesn't like us on a different ROM.
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I would be happier with the Nexus 7 too, if I had the money to buy one :crying: . However I have been rooting my phone and I stick to one rom after that. I'm not really into development so yeah, more like daily use and some cool add-ons i can do to it . Thanks for replying !
Let's see reasons to buy older 2012 kindle, specs are about the same, it is flashable 2013 is not, we have recovery methods that work on the 2012, we don't on the 2013... 2012 has camera and mic, 2013 doesn't, 2012 has HDMI out, 2013 doesn't... In general the 2013 isn't that great, I think Google play store use on it is still not fully working too, I'll let other people confirm that though.
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Let's see reasons to buy older 2012 kindle, specs are about the same, it is flashable 2013 is not, we have recovery methods that work on the 2012, we don't on the 2013... 2012 has camera and mic, 2013 doesn't, 2012 has HDMI out, 2013 doesn't... In general the 2013 isn't that great, I think Google play store use on it is still not fully working too, I'll let other people confirm that though.
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This is why you get the 2012. You can get 2012 one for $129 2013 is $199
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One of the answers I've been praying to see. haha.. How is reading on the 7' tablet? Is it too small ? I'm afraid that I won't be able to read and need zoom in just to read a part of the page. ( especially magazines) Anyway thanks for replying! :good::good:
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I think its perfect for reading; not too big or small. If you do need to zoom its just a quick swipe.
I have the 2012 version and haven't had my hands on a 2013 to compare.
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stunts513 said:
Let's see reasons to buy older 2012 kindle, specs are about the same, it is flashable 2013 is not, we have recovery methods that work on the 2012, we don't on the 2013... 2012 has camera and mic, 2013 doesn't, 2012 has HDMI out, 2013 doesn't... In general the 2013 isn't that great, I think Google play store use on it is still not fully working too, I'll let other people confirm that though.
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Oh my . didn't notice that .... was too concentrated on the functions in the system and also purchases on amazon.... Thanks for the comparison ... Wouldn't have notice it without your help ! :good:
wire55 said:
This is why you get the 2012. You can get 2012 one for $129 2013 is $199
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Sadly, over in Malaysia, I'll have to get it via a person managing with suppliers . And they only carry the new Kindle Fire HD. Well that's just so darn disappointing for me. :crying:
Guys, I have asked for the 2012 version. As you guys have said, 2012 version is much more worth it right? What about the firmware + apps? The software can be converted into the CM 11 without any lags right? Thanks for the reply.... Hope I get this one soon to confirm my purchase !
Apparently , the older version of kindle will cost me 60 USD extra. That really sucks. But please do advise me on the apps and software. From what the seller said, apps and software could be hard for me to get as time pass by. But if I were to root + flash a new rom, that wouldn't be a problem right?
Correct, we have cm 11 ROMs running on it smoothly. The original amazon is on it was only ICS based, which I think was weird, seems like every time amazon releases a new device they don't have the current build of android on it, they have previous version on it. I mean I think even the hdx had 4.2.2 on it instead of 4.3, considering kitkat had just come out and its 4.4.
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I bought a 7" Kindle Fire HD last week when it was on sale for only 79€. I think it's the best purchase I made this year :laugh:
Just got my X43Z60 yesterday.
I am trying to take advantage of Amazon Prime Video which works very well on this device, but I also would like to get google play content so I was wondering, if I flash a custom rom, will I still be able to watch prime videos and if anybody has any suggestion on a kid friendly app that will limit the usage similar to free time?
You can't watch amazon prime on a custom ROM, it might be possible with flash on kitkat but I have never tried, I heard the functionality broke a while back to use it with flash. If you just got the kindle you might wanna mention what the os version is, because the 2013 kindles are not flashable with custom ROMs outside of the kindle water ROM that just reuses the stock kernel.
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stunts513 said:
You can't watch amazon prime on a custom ROM, it might be possible with flash on kitkat but I have never tried, I heard the functionality broke a while back to use it with flash. If you just got the kindle you might wanna mention what the os version is, because the 2013 kindles are not flashable with custom ROMs outside of the kindle water ROM that just reuses the stock kernel.
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Thank you.
I am using 7.4.8
My son is used to Playbook, which is really excellent in terms of functionality & ease of use, however lack of apps that he likes, and games is making it a bit outdated. Youtube and all that stuff is actually great on Playbook, no ads, good interface, and I can let him play with it anyway he wants, but with this Kindle, it's a little weird. Even in Kids freetime mode you can uninstall apps.
I really like the idea of freetime unlimited and I think I am going to go with that for now.
OK yea yours is the 2012 then, completely flashable.
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hydeah said:
Thank you.
I am using 7.4.8
My son is used to Playbook, which is really excellent in terms of functionality & ease of use, however lack of apps that he likes, and games is making it a bit outdated. Youtube and all that stuff is actually great on Playbook, no ads, good interface, and I can let him play with it anyway he wants, but with this Kindle, it's a little weird. Even in Kids freetime mode you can uninstall apps.
I really like the idea of freetime unlimited and I think I am going to go with that for now.
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You can watch Amazon Instant Videos (rented/bought movies and shows) with flash but you cannot watch Prime Videos unless you are running Amazon firmware. You can't even access them. I have a Prime account and it's just not possible.
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Hi Guys,
I'm new here and searching for an Root Option for my Fire 5th Gen. with Fire OS 5.6.1.0.
I startet it today, and this stupid Device means to update it...
I think i saw the Root Option versions below in the Settings. So i'm confused actually.
And I'm New in the Root section. So my normally Devices are from Apple. But the Fire was one time Cheap and i buyed a 128GB mSD so i can install all of my Music on it.
I hope guys you can understand me and help me
xHazeBaze
xHazeBaze said:
Hi Guys,
I'm new here and searching for an Root Option for my Fire 5th Gen. with Fire OS 5.6.1.0.
I startet it today, and this stupid Device means to update it...
I think i saw the Root Option versions below in the Settings. So i'm confused actually.
And I'm New in the Root section. So my normally Devices are from Apple. But the Fire was one time Cheap and i buyed a 128GB mSD so i can install all of my Music on it.
I hope guys you can understand me and help me
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Unfortunately, there is NO (zero, zip, nada) option at present to root a 5th gen Fire running FireOS 5.3.2.1 or above. Nor can you roll back to a rootable build of FireOS. However, you can install the Google Play store:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/how-to-install-google-play-store-fire-t3486603
Please make use of the XDA search function before opening a new thread. Root question has been asked and answered many times.
Davey126 said:
Unfortunately, there is NO (zero, zip, nada) option at present to root a 5th gen Fire running FireOS 5.3.2.1 or above. Nor can you roll back to a rootable build of FireOS. However, you can install the Google Play store:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/how-to-install-google-play-store-fire-t3486603
Please make use of the XDA search function before opening a new thread. Root question has been asked and answered many times.
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Im sorry, i try to use the search function. How can i rollback?
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Im sorry, i try to use the search function. How can i rollback?
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There is no rollback option.
Bit of a noob question but has anyone truyed to do it using Magisk through adb or can that not be done on this
bellysgonnagetya said:
Bit of a noob question but has anyone truyed to do it using Magisk through adb or can that not be done on this
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Locked bootloader; Magisk can NOT be used.
Davey126 said:
Locked bootloader; Magisk can be used.
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CAN'T ?
ldeveraux said:
CAN'T ?
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LOL - thank you! Posted a quick response by mobile and got burned by auto-correct. "Magisk can't be used" was the intended response. I have updated the post in question.
Does anyone know if any root is available yet?
This device is slow on Fire OS.. too much going on for such a slow processor etc. Ironic..
I am also interested in rooting this device.
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Does anyone know if any root is available yet?
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tahrang said:
I am also interested in rooting this device.
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No root on 7th gen Fire. 5th gen devices running FireOS 5.3.2.0 or lower can be rooted. There is no rollback option for those on 5.3.2.1 and above (device will brick).
Just FYI for those searching, still no root. I'm keeping it on 5.3.3.1, which it came with as of 2 days ago.
Quintuple said:
Just FYI for those searching, still no root. I'm keeping it on 5.3.3.1, which it came with as of 2 days ago.
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Just got a Refurbished from woot. it came with 5.6.1 well played amazon!
Rufurbished bought from Amazon.de on 05/10/2018 came with 5.6.1.0...;(
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Just got a Refurbished from woot. it came with 5.6.1 well played amazon!
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Same prob here , saw a couple of threads...it seems the safer approach is to not to attempt downgrading and simply install Google Play (I already did it and works fine - you can practically install anything you want). The problem is actually you have to live with all the junk Amazon puts on the Tablet...;(
Ads on the lockscreen can also easily be blocked..
Blocking of OTA updates does require you to be root, so unless a means to stop OTA from happening shows up, our tablets will continue updating themselves ad-eternum
Cheers,
Gizmo
ThyGizmo said:
Same prob here , saw a couple of threads...it seems the safer approach is to not to attempt downgrading and simply install Google Play (I already did it and works fine - you can practically install anything you want). The problem is actually you have to live with all the junk Amazon puts on the Tablet...;(
Ads on the lockscreen can also easily be blocked..
Blocking of OTA updates does require you to be root, so unless a means to stop OTA from happening shows up, our tablets will continue updating themselves ad-eternum
Cheers,
Gizmo
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Downgrade from 5.6.x -> 5.4 is safe and permits disabling (not uninstalling) Amazon 'bloat' if you know what you're doing. OTA updates can be blocked via VPN based firewall but that adds to the cpu/memory load on this already resource constrained device. In the end it's probably best to do as @ThyGizmo suggests for practical vs safety reasons. Take the device for what it is - a slow but serviceable Amazon ecosystem appliance (shopping portal) that can also be used as a generic Android tablet with some limitations.
I just wanted to remove all the amazon apps. I don't use them.
I use web browser for shopping. I don't have amazon books, movies and many of their junk.
Don't get me start with the spy amazon alexa.
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/wo...ation-sent-it-out-to-random-contact/755507974
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I just wanted to remove all the amazon apps. I don't use them.
I use web browser for shopping. I don't have amazon books, movies and many of their junk.
Don't get me start with the spy amazon alexa.
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/wo...ation-sent-it-out-to-random-contact/755507974
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I get an eerie feeling Pandora listens to me sometimes. It has access to the microphone mostly because it intertwines with Google Assistant but I swear sometimes I'll yell at Pandora for not playing the music I like or a song I haven't heard in forever and within a few minutes the song is played. I've been able to do a few times with somebody else in the room and they thought it was quite creepy to. So I guess in a sense you could say that was "spying". But just because an app has a permission to use a certain piece of hardware doesn't mean it always will use it.unfortunately without Root you can't install app Ops which would tell you if a permission was ever used for that specific application.
Handsome Jack said:
I just wanted to remove all the amazon apps. I don't use them.
I use web browser for shopping. I don't have amazon books, movies and many of their junk.
Don't get me start with the spy amazon alexa.
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/wo...ation-sent-it-out-to-random-contact/755507974
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I get an eerie feeling Pandora listens to me sometimes. It has access to the microphone mostly because it intertwines with Google Assistant but I swear sometimes I'll yell at Pandora for not playing the music I like or a song I haven't heard in forever and within a few minutes the song is played. I've been able to do a few times with somebody else in the room and they thought it was quite creepy to. So I guess in a sense you could say that was "spying". But just because an app has a permission to use a certain piece of hardware doesn't mean it always will use it.unfortunately without Root you can't install app Ops which would tell you if a permission was ever used for that specific application.
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FUD fodder. Slap a piece of tape over the mic and call it a day.
ok, after reading advice. I have decided not to root this Fire 7 5th gen.
After I install Google Play. What the best way to make this device to run better? amazon apps eat all the RAM and CPU.
Handsome Jack said:
ok, after reading advice. I have decided not to root this Fire 7 5th gen.
After I install Google Play. What the best way to make this device to run better? amazon apps eat all the RAM and CPU.
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You wouldn't be able to Root it. Only the 2017 HD 10 can be rooted at present.
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My kids have a fire 7 5th and 7th gen. Someone suggested you can remove the Fire OS via a rom. But looking around that doesn't seem possible for many variants.
The tablets have got super slow and the kids just aren't using them as much as they used to be, also they want the Google Play stuff (and I want family link to keep an eye on their apps!) So it seems a win win situation albeit not possible...?
Am I out of luck? Thanks
Lothaen said:
My kids have a fire 7 5th and 7th gen. Someone suggested you can remove the Fire OS via a rom. But looking around that doesn't seem possible for many variants.
The tablets have got super slow and the kids just aren't using them as much as they used to be, also they want the Google Play stuff (and I want family link to keep an eye on their apps!) So it seems a win win situation albeit not possible...?
Am I out of luck? Thanks
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Custom ROMs exist for both variants but you'll have some geeky prep work to do (unlocking bootloader) which can easily consume a weekend if you're new to the game. A more expeditious path is to simply reinstall FireOS which will restore speed (for awhile) but not bring Google Play access. Alternatively, look at the $64 USD 8" Onn tablet from Walmart which runs the latest version of (almost) pure Android and is highly usable out of the box. That said, most kids shy away from clunky tablets once in school. Give some thought to a prepaid phone which are heavily discounted at most retailers. Just don't activate it which yields a great WiFi only gizmo for Junior which can be turned into a 'real' phone when s(he) is ready. Good luck.
It's a fair point. The kids play Pokémon go on old phones as the tablets don't so much.