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Living without Xposed...

Hi. I'm thinking of getting a Nexus 6. One thing I'm curious is how are people coping with not have Xposed modules. Are you depending on custom roms and themes to make up the difference? Currently on my Note Edge I use App Settings, Heads Up Notifications, Multiwindow plus. Notifly Clean, Swipeback and YouTube Adaway among others. For example App Settings really comes in handy for changing look of apps and such (can give more of a tablet UI). I'd especially like to hear from folks that heavily used Xposed in the past to get their impressions. Anyways, I might get a N6 or wait a bit more to see what comes out at CES. Thanks!

mscion said:
Hi. I'm thinking of getting a Nexus 6. One thing I'm curious is how are people coping with not have Xposed modules. Are you depending on custom roms and themes to make up the difference? Currently on my Note Edge I use App Settings, Heads Up Notifications, Multiwindow plus. Notifly Clean, Swipeback and YouTube Adaway among others. For example App Settings really comes in handy for changing look of apps and such (can give more of a tablet UI). I'd especially like to hear from folks that heavily used Xposed in the past to get their impressions. Anyways, I might get a N6 or wait a bit more to see what comes out at CES. Thanks!
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I have adaway on my Nexus 6 and it works great. It's part of the LS ROM. The Nexus 6 is fine without xposed even after using it heavily on all of my other phones. If you want a tablet UI then you can change the DPI on your phone to 320 (560 is stock) and most people seen to like 460-480dpi. It's well worth the upgrade if you love to flash. Anything from CES (LG, ASUS, Samsung etc..) Won't have nearly as much development if any compared to a Nexus device. I like to flash ROM's and kernels so rather than deal with the hassle of unbricking a LG or Samsung with factory tools I can flash the stock ROM via fastbokt with my nexus easily. It's all up to what you plan to use the phone for. Any new phone debuting this year won't have xposed anyway because they will have lollipop

Your problem is not the Nexus 6, your problem is with Lollipop. Due time, Xposed will be made to work with ART.
Regardless of whatever phone you're using, if it has Lollipop, Xposed will not work.

Pilz said:
I have adaway on my Nexus 6 and it works great. It's part of the LS ROM. The Nexus 6 is fine without xposed even after using it heavily on all of my other phones. If you want a tablet UI then you can change the DPI on your phone to 320 (560 is stock) and most people seen to like 460-480dpi. It's well worth the upgrade if you love to flash. Anything from CES (LG, ASUS, Samsung etc..) Won't have nearly as much development if any compared to a Nexus device. I like to flash ROM's and kernels so rather than deal with the hassle of unbricking a LG or Samsung with factory tools I can flash the stock ROM via fastbokt with my nexus easily. It's all up to what you plan to use the phone for. Any new phone debuting this year won't have xposed anyway because they will have lollipop
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zephiK said:
Your problem is not the Nexus 6, your problem is with Lollipop. Due time, Xposed will be made to work with ART.
Regardless of whatever phone you're using, if it has Lollipop, Xposed will not work.
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Thanks for your replys. I was wondering if folks could change dpi on apps individually instead of globally.
Clearly lollipop is inevitable. I've tried a recently released developers version of lollipop on my former dd (Note 3) and it has some nice features plus some Note 4 multiwindow improvements. But I also missed my Xposed mods when using it. The main problem I'm having with the EDGE is that I'm not sure how much development will continune on it. Currently there are two very nice roms (I'm refering to tmobile here variant) but no custom kernels. So I guess I'm suffering from developer envy lol... CES should be interesting in that more devices should be introduced with 64 bit processors along with, perhaps some of the larger screen sony devices. At lest that is the hope!

Upgrade to lollipop poll

Given the fact that Xposed does not work on art how will that affect your decision to upgrade to Android L?
Comments should include lots of beer for Rovo89.

Due to xprivacy needing xposed it's the only thing that makes me still use kitkat..
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Aren't "no" and "I will wait until Xposed works with ART" the same answer? If you won't upgrade without Xposed ("No"), that seems to imply you would upgrade if it works with ART.
I'm willing to wait, there are a few Xposed mods I really care about like Xposed call block, full use of Greenify, MinMinLock and RootCloak, and others I could probably learn to live without but still find convenient like Chrome New Tab, CrappaLinks, Play Store link in App info, PlayPermissionsExpoxed, Statusbar Scroll to Top, and Swype Tweaks.
I upgraded my Nexus 7 to Lollipop (on Purity ROM) without Xposed, but I don't use that daily like my phone, so on that I'm wiling to wait, and even stay on KitKat indefinitely.

I can stick with KK for many more years.... Until Xposed come for LP, I WIL NOT have LP... Simple...
Perhaps it's just me, but, I'm also still on win7, until...

You may stick with KK and Xposed for years, but devs probably no. They would slowly abandon their modules, if Xposed framework development stopped.

Nah I will wait. There isn't single feature in Lollipop that isn't in KitKat.

I've been holding out, but just last night I decided to try out CM12 through MultiRom and now I'm completely torn.
On one hand, I have my beloved Xposed modules which add awesome functionality as well as some fantastic visuals (Flat Style Keyboard is the most difficult to give up...) and on the other hand is the absolutely beautiful experience of using Lollipop. I hadn't used it first-hand until now, and I was honestly blown away, and still am after using the rom all day today. Everything is just so much smoother and feels like it is working the way it should. I feel that with material design, Android finally stands up to iOS in terms of visual appeal, fluidness, and consistency.
*sigh* I suppose I'll find myself switching off between the two roms for a while, unable to choose one.

Still on 4.4.4, cause xposed isn't compatible with lollipop yet :-/
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...upgrade to Android L? ...lots of beer for Rovo89.
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Rovo developes Xposed for other reason, not beer, not money. Let us hope he still has reason strong enough to open up ART so Xposed modules will work on Lollipop.
Point of clarification: "Android L" is an early version of Lollipop. Since then, we have seen Android 5.0, Android 5.0.1, and the latest is Android 5.0.2, which is the only Lollipop I have tried. After trying it for about 2 days, I went back because I felt need for my Xposed modules. But, after only a few hours off Lollipop, I went back to it! And then, began finding work arounds for missing features. ART is so smooth and responsive, and Lollipop has a great new recent apps switcher 'Rolodex' that is wonderfully fluid, useful, and fun. I love these and other things Lollipop brings. Found ways to deal with all desired features. Even Xprivacy issues have work arounds, thanks to App Ops in CM-12. None the less, while using and enjoying Lollipop, I am keeping up hope that Rovo brings Xposed to ART.

using CM12 without xposed

Please, that is exactly the reason why the dev have no motivation to spend energy in this project any more.
No question, exposed is a revolutionary mod for android geeks like us.
Don't put pressure on the dev!
Thanks for attention

Still on KitKat. Mainly because it allows me to continue maintaining and supporting my xposed modules.
Would be too uncomfortable to switch ROMs everytime I need to test stuff.

I decided to pull the plug on kitkat and upgrade my exynos S5. I'm definitely missing the xposed experience on my phone. Starting from the full use of greenify ( especially wake-up tracker and cutoff) to all the small tweaks and quirks we're doing to our UI, and the whole OS.
It made me not take for granted the huge amount of work put into the framework itself, and the work put in by the devs of all the modules that we use daily. Huge thanks to all the developers out there and I hope one day we will have a working version of the xposed framework for the new Android iteration.
I'm on my way to make a donation to the xposed framework Dev and I encourage others to do so too.

Plan on staying with KitKat unless I decide to switch to Cyanogen. Being on a Note 3 I kinda have mixed feelings missing some S-Pen functionality.

I had to make the jump, at least temporarily. . Definitely missing some things, but nothing I can't live without.

I've upgraded to Lollipop several times now, but have reverted to KitKat each time. Not specifically because of the XPosed incompatibility, although that affected my decision. Mostly because the ROM I'm using now on my i9300 has so much extra functionality. Secondarily, Lollipop simply isn't giving me the battery life I've been getting on the KitKat I'm using--and that's something I find very important in a ROM.
That being said, again today I've tried a newer version of what's billed as one of the better Lollipop ROMs for my set; we'll see if I stay with it.
I only have one XPosed module that I use, and it's visual, so...although I miss it, I can live without it.

Yep still on kitkit cm11, mostly because of xposed and XMG compatibility not present on cm12. stupid ART!
i would like to hit over to android 5, for the fact that call sound actually works with latest Google Play Services... but its a minor setback sticking with kitkat... not like i get called enough that it bothers me much, #foreveralone :crying:
still sucks that i cant use most gapps cause of this =/ (i restored factory version, which doesn't self update)
ah well will have to wait a few months to see the progress of xposed and xmg ART runtime compatibility

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I decided to pull the plug on kitkat and upgrade my exynos S5. I'm definitely missing the xposed experience on my phone. Starting from the full use of greenify ( especially wake-up tracker and cutoff) to all the small tweaks and quirks we're doing to our UI, and the whole OS.
It made me not take for granted the huge amount of work put into the framework itself, and the work put in by the devs of all the modules that we use daily. Huge thanks to all the developers out there and I hope one day we will have a working version of the xposed framework for the new Android iteration.
I'm on my way to make a donation to the xposed framework Dev and I encourage others to do so too.
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What about the hard work of developers who've been toiling away hard on the Lollipop ROMs bringing you various mods without xposed?

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What about the hard work of developers who've been toiling away hard on the Lollipop ROMs bringing you various mods without xposed?
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I'm modifying my own system files for lollipop. As an IT engineer I know my way around how Linux/Unix systems work, and have a bit of programming language background.
I was solely referring that we should support what we are using (as I used xposed and decided to support it into further development), but I'm not using any other "mods" from other developers.
Unlike the vast majority of Android users, I buy all my software.
But I believe that the users should support the work of their devs, or if you're developing something, I hope your users will support whatever it is you're working on (I've seen you have clearly taken offense)

No offense taken

Advantages of rooting/custom ROM Android 7.0+ before Xposed release?

Hey guys,
Long time xposed module user from android 4 through 6. I just got a new (used) Nexus 5X and am considering downgrading to Marshmallow so that I can get xposed back.
Why do people even bother hacking 7.0+ if you can't run xposed? I get that you can use custom firmware with some nice customization, but I feel like 90% of the value of rooting my phone is in xposed. Minminguard, for example, is something I can't live without; adblocking apps is probably the nicest feature I can imagine. Several other custom xposed-only apps as well.
So... what do you all think? Run android 7+ without xposed while waiting for someone kind enough to release xposed module for it, or stay android 6.0 forever to take advantage of the amazing app library within xposed module?

Plenty of advantages. The Google assistant is available without xposed on 7.0 and 7.1 roms. You can now reply to text messages from your notification screen, and delete emails even when you have multiple messages there. Xposed will be great once we get it, but there's plenty of stuff about nougat that makes it worth it.

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Plenty of advantages. The Google assistant is available without xposed on 7.0 and 7.1 roms. You can now reply to text messages from your notification screen, and delete emails even when you have multiple messages there. Xposed will be great once we get it, but there's plenty of stuff about nougat that makes it worth it.
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Any other benefits? Im on the same boat as OP, dont see much benefit without xposed atm.

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Hello, I´m on the same boat than you, I updated to Nougat just to give it a try but I come back to Marshmallow only for Xposed, all the features from Nougat are not enough for me without Xposed.

Yeah, yeah, wait for Xposed Nougat. Will be realeased in 2195.
People, let's get real! There won't be any Xposed for Nougat. Even if will be released, it will happen so late it would be useless - Android 8 will be the word by then and everyone will ask for Xposed Oreo.

varioventus said:
Yeah, yeah, wait for Xposed Nougat. Will be realeased in 2195.
People, let's get real! There won't be any Xposed for Nougat. Even if will be released, it will happen so late it would be useless - Android 8 will be the word by then and everyone will ask for Xposed Oreo.
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People have been saying this since 5.0. Xposed for Nougat is basically done already, just needs small fixes.

CZ Eddie said:
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Wow.. How did you take such a long screenshot? Looks awesome!

Greatness_GH said:
Wow.. How did you take such a long screenshot? Looks awesome!
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ABotelho23 said:
People have been saying this since 5.0. Xposed for Nougat is basically done already, just needs small fixes.
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Small fixes every month.

Greatness_GH said:
Wow.. How did you take such a long screenshot? Looks awesome!
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With S7 is also possible.
Sent from my S7.
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varioventus said:
Yeah, yeah, wait for Xposed Nougat. Will be realeased in 2195.
People, let's get real! There won't be any Xposed for Nougat. Even if will be released, it will happen so late it would be useless - Android 8 will be the word by then and everyone will ask for Xposed Oreo.
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There will be an Xposed for Nougat! You think it's easy to make Xposed working on new Android versions why don't you make it yourself then? Even Samsung and other manufacturers need months to update to new Android versions because of the many changes Google added. If it works good Rovo release it if you don't want to wait no problem but then why are you in an Xposed thread? You have no respect to Xposed dev while he does it for free.
Sent from my S7.

robuser007 said:
Small fixes every month.
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You do understand the source code is out there right? If you're so impatient you should to and make it compatible yourself. This isn't a paid product from a commercial company; you literally have NO right to complain.

FlemishDroid said:
There will be an Xposed for Nougat! You think it's easy to make Xposed working on new Android versions why don't you pake it yourself then? Even Samsung and other manufacturers need months to update to new Android versions because of the many changes Google added. If it works good Rovo release it if you don't want to wait no problem but then why are you in an Xposed thread? You have no respect to Xposed dev while he does it for free.
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Thank you. Couldn't have agreed more.

There will be an Xposed for Nougat!
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Not very probably. Google constantly makes changes against Xposed and other hacking tools...

FlemishDroid said:
With S7 is also possible.
Sent from my S7.
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There will be an Xposed for Nougat! You think it's easy to make Xposed working on new Android versions why don't you make it yourself then? Even Samsung and other manufacturers need months to update to new Android versions because of the many changes Google added. If it works good Rovo release it if you don't want to wait no problem but then why are you in an Xposed thread? You have no respect to Xposed dev while he does it for free.
Sent from my S7.
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Please, keep your respect lessons for your kids.
I presume you're personal with Robert, you've called him and he told you he's working hard on Xposed Nougat.
Robert have the right to live a life, outside of xposed. That means he have the right to NOT realese any new version of the framework if that would require an amount of work too heavy for one single developer.

If anyone is interested you could use DualBootPatcher to test things out. I'm using DualBootPatcher with stock MIUI based on MM as primary ROM and Lineage 14.1 as data slot ROM, so I can test it out. So far Lineage seems nice but a lack of Xposed is very limiting.

ABotelho23 said:
People have been saying this since 5.0. Xposed for Nougat is basically done already, just needs small fixes.
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ABotelho23 said:
You do understand the source code is out there right? If you're so impatient you should to and make it compatible yourself. This isn't a paid product from a commercial company; you literally have NO right to complain.
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I mean google makes (security) changes every month.
The dev's have to face new issues every month this way!

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Small fixes every month.
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You know it was hollydays for christmas and new year, right?
Rovo have a life outside Xposed...
Just wait by march tops it's out..

ABotelho23 said:
People have been saying this since 5.0. Xposed for Nougat is basically done already, just needs small fixes.
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...and you would know this how?

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...and you would know this how?
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Devs last update stated hooks were generally working, which is the core function of what Xposed offers to modules. Of course it's partially an assumption, but we also have to consider he's got a life and isn't getting paid for Xposed.

Now that official 7.1.1 is out, how many of you are still on Marshmallow?

I'm still running M, the biggest two reasons are for CMTE and the xposed framework. Now that official 7.1.1 was released, just wanted to do a quick poll and see how many people are still on M vs N (and maybe we have some L users too lol)

I'm on LOS. Xposed isn't the most important thing to me, and I'm waiting for CMTE to come out to Lineage. gotta be on that bleeding edge

N now:victory:

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I'm on LOS. Xposed isn't the most important thing to me, and I'm waiting for CMTE to come out to Lineage. gotta be on that bleeding edge
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Then being on that rom is the last thing you want.
Not only are they the slowest to issues updates but they also are gonna have issues as CMTE is owned by CM as it is not all open source. So this might not happen. It was most likely sold along with the CM name.

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Then being on that rom is the last thing you want.
Not only are they the slowest to issues updates but they also are gonna have issues as CMTE is owned by CM as it is not all open source. So this might not happen. It was most likely sold along with the CM name.
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Oh? I wasn't aware that cmte wasn't fully open source. Well, I don't stick on the same ROM very long anyways, and now that 7.1.1 is actually out, I'll probably switch to a stock/AOSP based ROM, and go with substratum.

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Oh? I wasn't aware that cmte wasn't fully open source. Well, I don't stick on the same ROM very long anyways, and now that 7.1.1 is actually out, I'll probably switch to a stock/AOSP based ROM, and go with substratum.
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I wasn't aware either I won't hold out hope any longer for seeing the Nougat version then...

Donating N5 to my Dad. Keep on stock Marshmallow or upgrade to Oreo?

As said in the title, I'm giving my N5 to my father. Is it best to flash stock Marshmallow or try something a little speedier and secure but not as stable? What are your thoughts?
Thank you for all your recommendations.

Personally like marshmallow better because I think battery life longer.
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Keep marshmallow or upgrade to nougat, LOS 14.1

if you want to do a little work before you give it to him, this is my suggestion. this is what i did for a long time, before i started really messing with my N5. (instructions for clarification, you probably already know how this stuff works.)
TL;DR: flash stock M -> root -> remove junk [-> unroot]
ive never actually unrooted so i dont know the process, but if you feel its a good idea...
INSTRUCTIONS:
- download and flash stock Android M from the google stock ROM collection. (hammerhead).
- wait until it reaches Startup Wizard and then reboot into bootloader.
- flash TWRP recovery.
- reboot into bootloader again.
- from recovery, flash SuperSU to gain root.
- reboot into system.
- after setting up the phone, disable first and then remove (titanium backup is my choice) any unnecessary app.
note: make sure the app is disabled. sometimes after you hit the disable button it just uninstalls updates without actually disabling it. the app will say Disabled in the app list.
note: you can filter installed apps in titanium backup by Frozen status so the disabled ones are easier to find.
- reboot.
- if youd like, here you could unroot.
- reboot and enjoy.
REMINDER:
removing certain apps can prevent basic functionality from working properly. trial by fire, i know for a fact that the system cannot run without the Google app installed. Google Play Services is another necessary one.
i feel marshmallow was a fantastic generation of android. i was always learning new things i could do. also, as a human with a father i feel he would benefit more from stability than from extra performance or features.
have fun, and be safe.

Stick with marshmallow or, if you want to get rid of Google spying, go to lineageos 14.1.
What are you getting for yourself?

maybeme2 said:
Stick with marshmallow or, if you want to get rid of Google spying, go to lineageos 14.1.
What are you getting for yourself?
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Two years ago I bought a OnePlus 3T, and I have been using a Pixel 2 for a year now. I wish Google released an improved Nexus 5. There are no good small phones anymore.

redsmith said:
Two years ago I bought a OnePlus 3T, and I have been using a Pixel 2 for a year now. I wish Google released an improved Nexus 5. There are no good small phones anymore.
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I guess the OnePlus 3T didn't do it for you...
How does the Pixel 2 compare with the nexus 5?
I'm using lineageos 14.1 with MicroG, Xprivacylua, and AFWall on my N5 (no Google apps) and would probably do the same with a new phone.

Is he going to be using it as his main cell phone? If you need stability the best bet is likely LineageOS 14.1
Personally, I'm on darkrom 7.1.2 (& elementalx 8.14 kernel) for more than a year now as I need a stable phone but LOS is more up-to-date.

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I guess the OnePlus 3T didn't do it for you...
How does the Pixel 2 compare with the nexus 5?
I'm using lineageos 14.1 with MicroG, Xprivacylua, and AFWall on my N5 (no Google apps) and would probably do the same with a new phone.
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Actually the OP3T is wonderful. The only reason I got a Pixel is because my wife's N5 died, so I gave her the OP3T and then I bought myself a Pixel 2. Like most of us, I'm the unofficial smartphone dealer in the family...
The Pixel 2 is great. The camera is unrivaled and stock Android is lightning fast as always. That said, I wish it was the same size as the N5. No current smartphone can match the ergonomics of the late N5. If I were Google, I'd release the N5 with the same exact dimensions, OLED screen, current camera tech, bigger battery, and stereo speakers. I'd buy the **** out of that phone.