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First, I'm a flashing newbie, and still have the stock ROM and Radio flashed on my Touch Pro 2.
TMOBILE has now updated(via some secret behind the scenes update) their Touch Pro 2 owners to "4G" coverage in the Detroit metro area. I would like flash to some of the ROMS offered but I'm not sure if after doing so will I continue to receive TMOBILE'S 4G coverage. I understand that "radio" flashing is separate from Rom flashing but is anyone sure that just flashing the ROM would not effect the TMOBILE 4G update.
Any help or insight is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Does the TP2 hardware even support 4G? That's not something you can just "upgrade". Are you sure that they're not just offering more bandwidth via HDSPA? If that's the case, then what ROM you're using will have no effect on that seeing as nearly all custom ROMs have it on by default.
twos50 said:
First, I'm a flashing newbie, and still have the stock ROM and Radio flashed on my Touch Pro 2.
TMOBILE has now updated(via some secret behind the scenes update) their Touch Pro 2 owners to "4G" coverage in the Detroit metro area. I would like flash to some of the ROMS offered but I'm not sure if after doing so will I continue to receive TMOBILE'S 4G coverage. I understand that "radio" flashing is separate from Rom flashing but is anyone sure that just flashing the ROM would not effect the TMOBILE 4G update.
Any help or insight is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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Got a screenshot of your TP2 showing 4G?
from my understanding, only the touch pro 2 from europe and japan have the 4g hardware, usa only 3g hardware, thats why i bought mine from taiwan so when 4g comes out, im well equipped!!!
For AT&T
GENERAL 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
- Also known as HTC Tilt 2 for AT&T
GENERAL 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 2100
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 or HSDPA 1700 / 2100
gsmarena.com
T-mobile doesn't have 4G coverage in the US...despite their claims.
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T-mobile doesn't have 4G coverage in the US...despite their claims.
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what they are actually doing is claiming their 3g network as 4g. its hspa. they took a card from verizon that considered their 2g network to be 3g. "you mean, alot of our 3g network is slower than atts 2g? and the only bits that are fast enough to keep up have less coverage than their 3g and is still slower? nonsense! i choose not to believe!"
T-mobile is marketing the same network even when they say 3G or 4G because it's all just upgrades, the appropriate term should be "3.5G". all of their sales reps i've encountered don't know anything about their network or their devices.
a week before the G2 came out, one of the reps tried to tell me that it was sporting a "dual-core processor". i laughed and corrected him without missing a beat. just watch their commercials...it's sad to see someone advertise 4G when it's just "3.5G".
nickwn88 said:
T-mobile is marketing the same network even when they say 3G or 4G because it's all just upgrades, the appropriate term should be "3.5G". all of their sales reps i've encountered don't know anything about their network or their devices.
a week before the G2 came out, one of the reps tried to tell me that it was sporting a "dual-core processor". i laughed and corrected him without missing a beat. just watch their commercials...it's sad to see someone advertise 4G when it's just "3.5G".
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Actually, it's HSPA+, not HSPA, T-Mobile & Sprint are advertising as 4G, which is faster & only a select few devices support the new HSPA+ speeds. So, it's more like 3.75G. HSPA+ provides HSPA data rates up to 56 Mbit/s down and 22 Mbit/s up. Future revisions of HSPA+ support up to 168 Mbit/s using multiple carriers. Regular HSPA maxes out @ 14 Mbit/s. The TP2 & most of HTC's 3G/HSPA(+) devices only support 7.2 Mbit/s down, 2 Mbit/s up. So, to answer the OP ?, If the network in that area was slower than 7.2 Mbit/s down before the upgrade, you will see an increase, but it'd be maxed out at 7.2 Mbit/s due to device limitations. As this is a Hardware issue, ROM doesn't matter other than the fact the lighter ROM's runs faster & therefore can get higher speeds because of the extra free RAM/Resources. Whereas, heavy, more feature rich ROM will tax the device more & therefore the CPU/RAM/Etc. won't be able to attain max bandwidth. It's like having a 30 Mbit Cable/DSL connection on a Pentium 3 PC. It'd never get the max speed as the system is just too slow to take advantage of it.
So basically, their advertising maybe false, it is used to explain a faster network & used to simplify which devices support this new speed. Most consumers wouldn't understand all this. So instead of dealing with, "why doesn't my 3G phone get full speed? *cry*" from customers not understanding their device has a limited bandwidth. Think of it like the days of dial-up modems. ISP A has a 56K network, but User B has a 28K Modem, so User B only gets 28K speeds.
"A 4G system is expected to provide a comprehensive and secure all-IP based solution where facilities such as ultra-broadband (giga-bit speed such as 1000+ Mbit/s) Internet access, IP telephony, gaming services, and streamed multimedia may be provided to users."
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So it goes something like this;
2G -> EDGE (2.5G) -> 3G -> HSPA (3.5G) -> HSPA+ (3.75G?) -> 4G (?)
Also keep in mind it's measured in bits per second, not bytes. There's 8 bits per byte. So 8Mbit/s = 1 MB. Also some service providers cheat by counting it as 10 bits per byte. (b=bit/B=Byte)
EDIT: Interesting side note, according to gsmarena.com, the G2 & MyTouch 4G only supports HSPA 14.4 Mbit/s down & 5.76 Mbit/s up (T-Mobile's network is 21 Mbit/s according to reports) & the Evo 4G only supports Rev. A, up to 3.1 Mbit/s.
Folks,
I have looked for this answer everywhere and do not seem to find an answer for it: Which version of the Note 4 Exynos works with T-Mobile LTE?
From a post I read, seems that the SM-N910C sold in Qatar works, but I am not sure.
Any help is greatly appreciated !
Cheers,
G
Interesting...unless the Qatar version supports 1700MHz band....I'm don't think you'll fully be able to utilize the TM network.
This makes me curious now...
This is what I found, from XDA:
SM-N910T(Qualcomm Snapdragon 805)------[USA T-Mobile]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910T1(Qualcomm Snapdragon 805)------[USA T-Mobile]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
Now, for models with Exynos:
SM-N910C(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Asia,Europe,South America]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910H(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Asia-Pacific]------{WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910K(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea KT+]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910L(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea LG+]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910S(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea SKT]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910U(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[HongKong,Taiwan,Australia,New Zealand,Chile]------{TDD-LTE+FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
I have read somewhere here in XDA that the SM-N910H will not work in T-Mobile. Then is only:
SM-N910C(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Asia,Europe,South America]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910K(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea KT+]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910L(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea LG+]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910S(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea SKT]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910U(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[HongKong,Taiwan,Australia,New Zealand,Chile]------{TDD-LTE+FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
And found this on the N910C:
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certified-devices/4648.html?view=terminal
E-UTRA FDD Band 1: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 2: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 3: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 4: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 5: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 7: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 8: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 20: Category : 4
And this on the N910K:
http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/kt/SM-N910KZKEKTC-spec
4G LTE B1 (2100), B3 (1800), B5 (850), B7 (2600), B8 (900) B17 (700)
And this on the N910L:
http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/lgt/SM-N910LZKELUC-spec
4G LTE B1(2100),B3(1800),B5(850),B7(2600)
And this on the N910S:
http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/skt/SM-N910SZKESKC-spec
4G LTE B1(2100),B3(1800),B5(850),B7(2600),B17(700)
And this on the SM-N910U:
http://www.samsung.com/nz/consumer/mobile-phone/smartphone/smartphone/SM-N910UZWENZC
B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B28(700)
So, what do you think?
And finally, for T-Mobile's SM-N910T,
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N910TZKETMB
4G (LTE Cat 4 150/50Mbps) : B2 / B4 / B5 / B12 / B17
The authority on operating bands in the US is the FCC.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=544347&fcc_id=A3LSMN910C
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=396270&fcc_id=A3LSMN910U
Short answer, The N910C and N910U has Band 4 LTE. Neither has band 12 (700MHz Block A)
Also, when on call or in a low-signal area, hold the phone with your left hand. The diversity receiver (2nd antenna) is right beneath the power button.
ATnTdude said:
The authority on operating bands is the US FCC.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=544347&fcc_id=A3LSMN910C
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=396270&fcc_id=A3LSMN910U
Short answer, The N910C and N910U has Band 4 LTE. Neither has band 12 (700MHz Block A)
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Yup, thanks a lot ! I was getting to that conclusion... T-Mobile uses Band 4 (AWS 1700/2100 MHz), which you are right only the N910C and N910U have. And also true, as with other international phones like the Sony Z3 and others, the biggest regret will be Band 12. However, for what I have read, the regret there of not having Band 12 is WiFi calling and some better reception indoor like in buildings and such.
Cheers,
G.
LTE Band 12 has nothing to do with WiFi calling. WiFi calling, in terms of hardware, simply requires WiFi, which all N910 models have (2.4 and 5.xGHz). The rest is carrier support (which T-Mobile has) and software on the phone (which if it isn't on by default can be added via root).
LTE Band 12 doesn't matter much outside of California, Florida, Texas, New England, Cleveland, Denver, Detroit, Atlanta, Minneapolis and Indianapolis. Leap (Cricket) Wireless owns most of the 700MHz Block A spectrum in America. Check out this map and see where you live vs what your carrier holds.
http://specmap.sequence-omega.net/
ATnTdude said:
LTE Band 12 has nothing to do with WiFi calling. WiFi calling, in terms of hardware, simply requires WiFi, which all N910 models have (2.4 and 5.xGHz). The rest is carrier support (which T-Mobile has) and software on the phone (which if it isn't on by default can be added via root).
LTE Band 12 doesn't matter much outside of California, Florida, Texas, New England, Cleveland, Denver, Detroit, Atlanta, Minneapolis and Indianapolis. Leap (Cricket) Wireless owns most of the 700MHz Block A spectrum in America. Check out this map and see where you live vs what your carrier holds.
http://specmap.sequence-omega.net/
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Thank you very much.
I looked at that map but did not quite understood the results. So, can you please educate me on what really I might miss should I go missing the Band 12 for someone living on those areas you have mentioned above?
I am tired of waiting on the T-Mobile Note 4 availability and the N910U seems to be available on eBay, plus it has the Exynos.
Cheers,
What's so special about the Exynos processor over the 805? The 805 in my Note4 is a beast.
Edit: http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-note-4-exynos-5433-vs-snapdragon-805-395820/
The Exynos is faster. Got it.
Sent from my SM-N910T using XDA Premium HD app
ATnTdude said:
LTE Band 12 has nothing to do with WiFi calling. WiFi calling, in terms of hardware, simply requires WiFi, which all N910 models have (2.4 and 5.xGHz). The rest is carrier support (which T-Mobile has) and software on the phone (which if it isn't on by default can be added via root).
LTE Band 12 doesn't matter much outside of California, Florida, Texas, New England, Cleveland, Denver, Detroit, Atlanta, Minneapolis and Indianapolis. Leap (Cricket) Wireless owns most of the 700MHz Block A spectrum in America. Check out this map and see where you live vs what your carrier holds.
http://specmap.sequence-omega.net/
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How do you add wi-fi calling via root? My understanding is that no one has managed to extract wi-fi related software pieces from T-Mobile ROMs and successfully port anywhere. That's why I'm always stuck with TW ROMs.
Just get the sm-n910t. Why do you want Exynos version? Many app wont take advantage of that cpu.
Yup, I did. Was trying to find alternatives since the Tmobile version seems so scarce and difficult to get...but, finally got one. Cheerrs. G.
N910C VoLTE and international dialer questions.
For anyone that has the N910C running on T-Mobile, is VoLTE actived for you? When you make a call, does it stay on LTE or does it drop to 4G (HSPA) and then go back to LTE after you hang up.
Also, does the dialer include the video chat icon on the bottom left and is there a way to remove it since (I'm guessing) it doesn't work.
I have a n910c and I'm on tmobile when I call it drops down to 4g then goes back to lte.
turoki said:
I have a n910c and I'm on tmobile when I call it drops down to 4g then goes back to lte.
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Does HSPA (aws) 3G/4G (H+) work on your 910c on tmobile?
Also are you able to make calls & use data at the same time?
Edit: nevermind just read above post. Please disregard
Can anyone confirm for sure if they're able to surf the web or do any data related activity while on a call with their sm-n910c? I have ZERO data connectivity while on a call and as soon as the call hangs up, I instantly have my data back. Any help or confirmation is appreciated.
Post your Galaxy Note 4 LTE speeds with model numbers/carriers~
Mine is SM-N910U on T-Mobile USA.
You ppl are lucky to get those speeds.. here in Pakistan lte speeds avg around 5 to 8 mbps
Sent from my SM-N910W8 using XDA Free mobile app
No LTE coverage in my town, only HSDPA+
N910F (Stock/Nobrand) on WIND Italy
Omnitel, Lithuania
Megafon, Kazan, Russia
Sent from my SM-N910C using XDA Premium HD app
tkmobilesupport said:
Post your Galaxy Note 4 LTE speeds with model numbers/carriers~
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What's the point of this, really?
The LTE download speeds are affected by:
1) frequency band - i.e 800/1800/2600 (2600 the best), visible in *#0011#
2) bandwidth - 5/10/15/20/etc Mhz (the higher the better), visible in *#0011#
3) whether carrier aggregation (CA) is enabled or not, visible in *#0011#
4) signal strength, visible in System settings - about - status
5) amount of active traffic on the same frequency/sector
6) hardware (modem) limitations
i mean, DL on 800 with 15Mhz and -100db will probably be lower than 2600 with 20Mhz and -85db.
or 1800 with 15Mhz and -95db will get more DL than 2600 with 20Mhz and -112db.
and if CA is enabled, Note 4 with cat.6 (snapdragon) will get much better results than Note 4 cat.4 (exynos)
i have seen 83MB DL on a Cat3 device without CA, 2600/20Mhz (Galaxy S3 LTE i9305).
Toronto Canada.
SM-N910W8
sent from Canada via my Note 4, 3 or 2
Omnitel, Lithuania
force70 said:
Toronto Canada.
SM-N910W8
sent from Canada via my Note 4, 3 or 2
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That is a fantastic speed~ I wish I can access those type of speeds!
lisbon2004 said:
What's the point of this, really?
The LTE download speeds are affected by:
1) frequency band - i.e 800/1800/2600 (2600 the best), visible in *#0011#
2) bandwidth - 5/10/15/20/etc Mhz (the higher the better), visible in *#0011#
3) whether carrier aggregation (CA) is enabled or not, visible in *#0011#
4) signal strength, visible in System settings - about - status
5) amount of active traffic on the same frequency/sector
6) hardware (modem) limitations
i mean, DL on 800 with 15Mhz and -100db will probably be lower than 2600 with 20Mhz and -85db.
or 1800 with 15Mhz and -95db will get more DL than 2600 with 20Mhz and -112db.
and if CA is enabled, Note 4 with cat.6 (snapdragon) will get much better results than Note 4 cat.4 (exynos)
i have seen 83MB DL on a Cat3 device without CA, 2600/20Mhz (Galaxy S3 LTE i9305).
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There are cat6 exynos versions as well. Also, the intel 7260 modem that the exynos version is equipped has very similar performance compared to the gobi modem that the snapdragon model has, so your reasoning of snapdragon version always being faster than exynos version in terms of LTE is not correct.
The purpose for this thread is to compare the actual real-life performance of the different modems that the Galaxy Note 4s are equipped with.
lisbon2004 said:
What's the point of this, really?
i have seen 83MB DL on a Cat3 device without CA, 2600/20Mhz (Galaxy S3 LTE i9305).
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That is extremely impressive, although I find it hard to believe. We cant even get a 664Mbps connection here in Canada on a home hardline let alone a cell phone. As far as I know LTE is only capable of theoretical speeds up to 150Mbps. How did you manage to create a cell network capable of 664Mbps (88MB/s) and how did you mod the S3 to accept that speed?
Here's mine
Sent from my SM-N910G
Best I could manage using Smart in Metro Manila on my Australian 910G. I'll be going back to Sydney soon so I'm curious to test Telstra's new upgraded network which is capable of up to 300Mbps
tryfound said:
Best I could manage using Smart in Metro Manila on my Australian 910G. I'll be going back to Sydney soon so I'm curious to test Telstra's new upgraded network which is capable of up to 300Mbps
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Id trade my speeds for a trip back to manila any day!
sent from Canada via my Note 4, 3 or 2
force70 said:
Id trade my speeds for a trip back to manila any day!
sent from Canada via my Note 4, 3 or 2
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True, don't really care about my data speeds, having too much fun. 50c beers and $2 meals... And $2 cigs as opposed to $22 back home. Sigh.
I already posted this pict to other thread in Q & A, but I'm gonna post it here as well.
I'm on XL Axiata, Indonesia
You guys should not be confused with my signature. I'm really on 910H phone.
I really envy with those speed all of you can get.
On N910S (SKT), but on standard LTE, not LTE-A.
(For some reason speedtest automatically chose a Chinese server and it had higher speeds than local servers in seoul, but higher ping)
L1k3ab055 said:
On N910S (SKT), but on standard LTE, not LTE-A.
(For some reason speedtest automatically chose a Chinese server and it had higher speeds than local servers in seoul, but higher ping)
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That's still impressive LTE speeds. With the tri-band carrier aggregation that SKT commercially launched, you will have access to speeds up to 300mbps and greater. I think we all need to acknowledge Korea's internet speeds.
It's not the Note 4. My carrier just sucks - Globe Telecom. Cebu City.
910F on vodafone spain here called 4G+ (LTE-A) on a 2600MHz BTS, not the best freq but only where available.
For users of Laser 2 - ZE551KL (Z00T) : T-Mobile US uses in some areas the Band 12 LTE, and our devices officially have only Band 17 LTE - they are both 700MHz bands (LTE 12 includes blocks A, B and lower C, while LTE 17 includes only blocks B and lower C).
I wonder if the latest firmware (Version WW_1.17.40.1234 with radio baseband 202c10_10.0.0_160304) did anything about the compatibility with band 12 (the release notes said something about "Improve 4G connectivity" and "Suggest to update for connection quality improved").
Does anyone have experience with T-Mobile US on the above phone? Is LTE available in all the areas where it should be (based on T-Mobile map) or you get dropped to 3G (H+) in some areas?
Supposedly the radio supports Band 12, but T-mobile doesn't think it supports VoLTE, so T-Mobile won't allow you to use Band 12. Something to do with not being able to make a voice call to 911 over LTE as an alternate means of connecting to 911, which they require their Band 12 phones to have.
People seem to think the Snapdragon 615 supports voice over 4G and can support VoLTE which could be implemented by Asus if they wanted to . Why they didn't or haven't no one seems to know.
Yeah, T-Mobile uses VoLTE exclusively in band 12:
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...ur-network-must-support-volte-e911/2015-08-28
More info:
http://www.spectrumgateway.com/compatible-phones
Asus doesn't support that (at least not on this firmware). MotoX 2015 got the VoLTE in Marshmallow update, Nexus 5X and 6 got the update too in last December...
SoNic67 said:
... MotoX 2015 got the VoLTE in Marshmallow update, Nexus 5X and 6 got the update too in last December...
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You would think that gives ZF2 Laser owners with the Snapdragon 615 and 616 chip a chance, but that's exactly the type of thing Asus is extremely unlikely to do. If they manage to get the promised Marshmallow update to all Zenfone 2 models before the end of Q2 without major bugs that would exceed their normal level of service for products after sale.
Similar to LTE in the UK I would seek info about the LTE Cat12 Modem in the Honor 10 Lite: which LTE Bands are supported and is there support for Carrier Aggregation?
The Bands of interest for me (possibly all supported in this order): B3 (1800+), B20, B7 (2600), B1 (2100), B32
According to gadgetsnow.com there is support only for: 4G Bands TD-LTE 2300 (band 40), FD-LTE 1800 (band 3)
Just got the Honor 10 Lite yesterday I'm using a "Three" sim.
Here's the Connectivity specs :
Frequency band: 4G LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B20 3G UMTS: B1/2/5/8 2G GSM: B2/3/5/8; Network rate: 4G LTE FDD: 150 Mbit/s(DL), 50 Mbit/s(UL) 3G WCDMA (HSDPA/ HSUPA): 42 Mbit/s(DL), 5.76Mbit/s(UL) 2G GPRS/EDGE:
296Kbit/s(DL), 236.8Kbit/s(UL); Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, 2.4GHz; Support Wi-Fi Hotspot; USB 2.0; Bluetooth 4.2+BLE
https://www.hihonor.com/uk/product/10044347606445.html#10044315762089
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Frequency bands: 4G LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B20
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Ok, so just B32 is missing for my area. If you plan to root the phone I would be interested if Carrier Aggregation support could be tested. Not sure if in your area CA2 or CA3 (combining of 2 or 3 bands) is available? This would double or triple the speed.
ChriMo said:
Ok, so just B32 is missing for my area. If you plan to root the phone I would be interested if Carrier Aggregation support could be tested. Not sure if in your area CA2 or CA3 (combining of 2 or 3 bands) is available? This would double or triple the speed.
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Not sure If I'm going to root this phone. Got a few apps that don't play well with routed devices,
As for CA support. "Three" in the UK just started testing it in a few regions in the UK (as of 1st Nov 2018) I'm not in one of those regions (Closest CA test area for me is Glasgow) so can't test it at the moment.
Honor 10lite carrier aggregation support?
is there any way to Enable carrier aggregation on Honor 10lite with kirin710 cheap?
As where Honor Company didnt care about Customers.
And this is qustion for me why this Function is disabled in this device altogh we see so many huawei device with same cheap but those device support 4.5g and ca
Could anyone share a screenshot of honor 10lite while the sign of 4.5g or 4g+ is captured on screen. Tanks in advance.
I doubt this device support 4.5g network connection cus we cannot see carrier aggregation box in mobile network settings