Hello everyone,
A very good 4G coverage recently popped in my house for no apparent reason. I won't say I'm unhappy, because the debit is 23 times better than my poor ADSL2+ (140+Mo/s instead of ~6Mo/s). My subscription allows for 50Go of data per month, which is more than enough for my needs.
I currently use my Nexus 5X and USB tethering to share this connection to my computer (which doesn't have a WiFi card). I'm afraid that having the phone connected (and thus charging) constantly will ruin its battery.
I have the possibility to buy a WiFi PCIe card for my computer. Using it, I'll be able to use the WiFi hotspot and therefore not kill my battery. Moreover, Android Nougat has a quick toggle for WiFi Hotspot and not USB Tethering, making it more easy to enable and disable (would it be possible to make an app to add such an icon for USB Tethering ?).
My question is : which solution is better ? Should I keep using USB Tethering, or will it kill my battery and I should use the WiFi Hotspot instead ? If I should, what kind of PCIE card should I buy, will a 811n be enough or should I buy an 811ac one (considering that the hotspot emits 811ac) ?
Thanks for helping me (and no, the fiber is not coming anytime soon unfortunately)
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I currently have no internet access on my tmobile plan but if I use the Wi-FI will it be charging on my phone bill?
Nah; My phones not even actiev yet and I'm able to use it via wifi
if you're concerned about it just disable your phone,
i work in one of t-mobs call centers atm and i havn't seen that come acrossed as an issue yet so i'd say you'r good,
Wifi is completely seperate from your phones radio which connects to the phone company. So you can use it anywhere it is offered freely, free of charge.
only reason you would be charged is if the wifi signals weak enough that it drops and your phone connects to GPRS or EDGE
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KingBowser said:
I currently have no internet access on my tmobile plan but if I use the Wi-FI will it be charging on my phone bill?
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Yes it won't charge you on the phone bill, but you may have to pay for WIFI access, depends on which hot-spot you're connecting to
What program are you using to achieve this?
Does this wear the battery down like wifi tether or if your phone is on usb the battery never drains faster than it can charge?
If the USB port you are connected to can supply the full 500mA, it will be enough power to run the tether and charge G1 (albeit very slowly). The battery will also warm up quite a bit (to about 50C). Sometimes the phone may get into a situation where it has not properly requested power from the USB controller and it will drain battery. Simply unplug and replug to fix that. It is also possible to charge faster than drain using Bluetooth tether.
The go to programs for root users would be Wireless Tether for Root and Wired Tether for Root. For stock users, check out PDAnet.
Thank you. It sounds like if I was going to set up a always on internet connection the BT is the way to go.
Here's what I'm thinking, when 7.2 becomes available from T-mo, make that my constant 24/7 connection for my desktop.
What's wrong with that plan?
jlacy76 said:
Thank you. It sounds like if I was going to set up a always on internet connection the BT is the way to go.
Here's what I'm thinking, when 7.2 becomes available from T-mo, make that my constant 24/7 connection for my desktop.
What's wrong with that plan?
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There's still a hidden cap for the bandwidth I believe. Also, if you do any activity that requires low latency, wireless (as in cell, not wifi) probably won't work well.
Since this is sorta on the topic.. anyone know how to get the usb tethering feature an cyans rom to work? i click it, it makes sound on my lap top.. but then what?
edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=580181&highlight=usb+tethering
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There's still a hidden cap for the bandwidth I believe. Also, if you do any activity that requires low latency, wireless (as in cell, not wifi) probably won't work well.
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My thinking was just another g1 and use my other g1 for telephone etc. This would just replace my dsl.
Wifi tether drains my battery faster than it can charge, so what are my options?
jlacy76 said:
Wifi tether drains my battery faster than it can charge, so what are my options?
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Use a dual input USB cable, like those for portable hard drives (example here). Or go over bluetooth. Or go over USB in cyan's roms.
jlacy76 said:
Thank you. It sounds like if I was going to set up a always on internet connection the BT is the way to go.
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You'd probably want to use the USB instead of BT, as using the BT radio will cause additional heat generation. BT 2.1+EDR also has a hard bandwidth cap of 3Mbps (your actual thoroughput may be even lower depending on the amount of WiFi interference in your area)
Here's what I'm thinking, when 7.2 becomes available from T-mo, make that my constant 24/7 connection for my desktop.
What's wrong with that plan?
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As stated already, the first problem would be the 10GB bandwidth cap/throttle. Secondly, it's likely you'll be getting less than 7.2 at times other than at night if you are in an urban area. Finally, your rt ping will be pretty poor compared to a wired internet service. That can translate into a sluggish browsing experience.
I can say all of the above because I am actually using HSDPA as my home internet access now (not staying where I am long enough to justify a DSL installation and contract).
I saw that in the Cyan roms and that was one of the things that triggered this search.
Even if I had 1.5 down that would be fine. 7.2 would be better but we'll have to wait and see on the cap.
The real question for me is which method won't run the battery down faster than it can charge?
Hi Guys,
So i thought of a couple questions today, after my first proper days use of my N1 (skinned it with BSE so I finally really used it)
If I have a PC, and a Tomato WRTGL router.. and, the PC doesn't have a Wifi card.
Can I tether my Tomato wifi router to my Nexus's ssid?
I mean, I know a wifi USB stick is 12dollars, but I'd like to avoid that.. and I know my ISPs signal cuts out from time to time (and don't want to be using my wifi netbook ...thats worth less than my n1 ..as I've come to realize post-purchase ..to get on the internet).
I figured, since you guys know about Linux and stuff, and possibly Tomato router firmware, it might be a worthy question to pose.
My second question is:
Is there a coles notes version of Battery calibration? I mean, do i just drain it and delete the Davlik cache and recharge?
I tried the HAVS kernel, and while it might be good and all - it does slow down my yuppie wants for live wallpaper and concomitant side scrolling home screen speeds.
After a full days use of GPS and battery reality, I would either opt for a well advised battery re-calibrations scheme or a recommendation just to use a car-dock, OR ..just get a second battery while asking HTC nicely?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Let me understand something. What is that you want to accomplish?
You want to use Nexus as WiFi adapter on your PC? Yes, if you connect USB to the PC, you can. Nexus tethers whatever connection it has, if it has internet from WiFi - it can tether that through USB.
You want to feed the router with Nexus WiFi? You can't, unless you reconfigure the router to be a WiFi repeater.
Cool Jack_R1 thanks for that insight!
I had no clue you could tether via USB. How do I do that?
Same place you activate the wifi hotspot.
I attempted this a while back when my internet went out but gave up cause i didnt want to break the wifi router to router link i had with my printer upstairs. im using dd-wrt firmware on a wrt54g router. its theoretically possible and if i had a g2 with tmo 4g speeds I would probably get rid of my att dsl and just use the phone for large transfers lol
Rusty! said:
Same place you activate the wifi hotspot.
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Sweet. TY!
For the battery cal, there is a chip inside the battery. We just found out it has a built in learn cycle to re calibrate it. In addition we are experimenting by raising the voltage and current set points to maximize the capacity. The new changes in pershoots kernel let's you access the batt internal chip to pull all your values.
Every thing is in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=702167&goto=newpost
Newbie here with the Gear, sorry if this has been asked before but I googled for a while.
I have a rooted Gear with Null ROM and rooted phone. Bluetooth tethering is awfully slow though when I'm indoors since my phone gets crappy 3G/4G reception, but I have solid Wi-Fi -- the phone's apps all work great through Wi-Fi, but the bluetooth tether insists on trying to use cellular data even though Wi-Fi is there.
Is there any way to allow the bluetooth tethering to use both the 3G/4G as well as the Wi-Fi connection, whatever the phone has available?
Thanks!
It's limited to whatever your phone rom allows. E.g. international stock rom allows tethering via Wi-Fi where as most carrier rounds will only work with cellular data (if it is even an option)
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It's limited to whatever your phone rom allows. E.g. international stock rom allows tethering via Wi-Fi where as most carrier rounds will only work with cellular data (if it is even an option)
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Thanks! But why should it be limited by the carrier? I want to tether the actual Wi-Fi connection over bluetooth, not the cellular connection (because the Gear doesn't have Wi-Fi, but my phone does, and 95% of the time I'm indoors where I have much better Wi-Fi than cellular reception).
If it makes a difference, I bought my Nexus 4 directly from Google so it's stock ROM and rooted. If I have to change to some other ROM (e.g. Cyanogenmod) I'm willing to do that
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Thanks! But why should it be limited by the carrier? I want to tether the actual Wi-Fi connection over bluetooth, not the cellular connection (because the Gear doesn't have Wi-Fi, but my phone does, and 95% of the time I'm indoors where I have much better Wi-Fi than cellular reception).
If it makes a difference, I bought my Nexus 4 directly from Google so it's stock ROM and rooted. If I have to change to some other ROM (e.g. Cyanogenmod) I'm willing to do that
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maybe just a few words from my side - why do you need a faster internet connection?
i mostly use it just to sync new data like calendar, or to do list. even slow internet is enough to do that, as it's not a lot of information to be exchanged. if you are planning on streaming videos or so, prepare that your gear will die quickly..
hurdlejade said:
maybe just a few words from my side - why do you need a faster internet connection?
i mostly use it just to sync new data like calendar, or to do list. even slow internet is enough to do that, as it's not a lot of information to be exchanged. if you are planning on streaming videos or so, prepare that your gear will die quickly..
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For light use, faster internet means the device wastes less CPU cycles waiting for responses. It's going over bluetooth either way, so better the device get the data in a fraction of a second than say 20-30 seconds (literally; I get only GPRS and occasionally EDGE in my office, never 3G or 4G, but I have flawless Wi-Fi). In those 20-30 seconds I could have pulled the phone out of my pocket to check what came through.
Although in all honesty I bought the Gear to hack with, and there are lots of crazy ideas I want to do with it that want a fast internet connection. Yes, the battery will die quickly, but that's the price of early adoption; I just want to hack for now and hope that when battery technology becomes better I can continue to be living with my futuristic apps. For now I can live with a charging cable down my sleeve and an external battery in my pocket, but I don't want to use USB tethering since I want it to still be able to go while disconnected.
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Thanks! But why should it be limited by the carrier? I want to tether the actual Wi-Fi connection over bluetooth, not the cellular connection (because the Gear doesn't have Wi-Fi, but my phone does, and 95% of the time I'm indoors where I have much better Wi-Fi than cellular reception).
If it makes a difference, I bought my Nexus 4 directly from Google so it's stock ROM and rooted. If I have to change to some other ROM (e.g. Cyanogenmod) I'm willing to do that
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I meant carrier branded rom. But in theory, stock international roms should use wifi if connected, otherwise use data. Some roms don't allow wifi to be used for tethering (cellular data only)
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I meant carrier branded rom. But in theory, stock international roms should use wifi if connected, otherwise use data. Some roms don't allow wifi to be used for tethering (cellular data only)
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Brendo is right. Stock roms often have wifi tethering via bluetooth enabled and can switch back and forth as need. I have not experienced laser fast result with either but as you states "for your needs", look for a phone with native bluetooth tethering. One that works well and is cheap is the Galaxy Grand II. I have one and it worked well. I use a Note 2 now with native bluetooth tethering via Verizon and it works with 4G but not wifi. Maybe someone will chime in with an international rom that has this capability.
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Brendo is right. Stock roms often have wifi tethering via bluetooth enabled and can switch back and forth as need. I have not experienced laser fast result with either but as you states "for your needs", look for a phone with native bluetooth tethering. One that works well and is cheap is the Galaxy Grand II. I have one and it worked well. I use a Note 2 now with native bluetooth tethering via Verizon and it works with 4G but not wifi. Maybe someone will chime in with an international rom that has this capability.
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Interesting. I have a Nexus 4 (directly from Google), and I'm surprised that if this feature exists that the Nexus 4 doesn't offer it. You'd think it'd be in Google's best interest given Glass and all.
wuxiekeji said:
Interesting. I have a Nexus 4 (directly from Google), and I'm surprised that if this feature exists that the Nexus 4 doesn't offer it. You'd think it'd be in Google's best interest given Glass and all.
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This is very true as unfortunatly in the US, native BT tethering is often blocked via Carriers who want to charge for it. In theory, this shouldnt be an issue with the Nexus line, curious if the Nexus 5 can... I can confirm, first hand that the technology does exist for wifi bluetooth tethering but it may be that no US phone has this feature enabled, to date. It should be noted that my Galaxy Grand was an international model, specifically the Latin model, not the India model. I could acutually use the phone without a sim card to serve up bluetooth PAN via home wifi to my old Motoactiv Smartwatch while I was screwing around in the house.
Faster Tethering?
wuxiekeji said:
Newbie here with the Gear, sorry if this has been asked before but I googled for a while.
I have a rooted Gear with Null ROM and rooted phone. Bluetooth tethering is awfully slow though when I'm indoors since my phone gets crappy 3G/4G reception, but I have solid Wi-Fi -- the phone's apps all work great through Wi-Fi, but the bluetooth tether insists on trying to use cellular data even though Wi-Fi is there.
Is there any way to allow the bluetooth tethering to use both the 3G/4G as well as the Wi-Fi connection, whatever the phone has available?
Thanks!
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You should include som info about the make and model of your phone if you wish people to help you....
Anyway, both my GalaxyS3 and my iPhone4S can easily be used to share WiFi with my Gear over Bluetooth. But it doesn't increase the speed much as this is limited by the BT bandwith between the phone and the Gear. Typically max 3Mb/s
I've got an N9005 rooted (X-Note 13) bluetooth tethering my null 23 gear, and on 4G I actually get speeds up to 5MB/sec, yet the gear rarely goes above 50kb/sec, which, for me, is too low even for a vague browsing . I highly doubt anything carrier specific, I just think bluetooth is slow...
Hey guys first time posting here. I have to use my phones hotspot for online gaming (I know) and I'm looking to maximize my connection. My main goal is to open my NAT type from moderate and another thing I'd like to do is essentially "trick" my phone into using regular data instead of hotspot data. I have the unlimited Verizon data plan which, as many of you already know, wrenches you back to 3g after 10gb. I think even after the 22g, having proritized 4g would be fast then 3g. I saw a lot of of people rooting their phone and using the WIFI tehther router app to achieve the open NAT type but the latest videos I've seen are from 2014 so I don't even know if that's still possible.
Best thing I used when I had no home internet was use PDA net and a USB worked plenty fine for all games accept red alert 2