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[Q] Battery life on 5.1

I recently updated to 5.1, re-rooted, and unencrypted via the NRT. Since doing this my battery life has been less than satisfactory. Before I was getting 12-13 hours, now for the last 3-4 days I've been lucky to get 8. I am a very light user at best. Is this a bug in 5.1? Any thoughts or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Same here, but I'm rooted using Chroma ROM.
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google play services getting you? check your battery stats.

Android OS has been my main culprit since installing 5.1

EmperorX said:
Android OS has been my main culprit since installing 5.1
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I just got the verizon nexus 6 with 5.1 on it already (so i can't comment what it was like on 5.0.1). but i am NOT impressed w/ battery life so far... moderate use (not heavy) I can get about 10-11 hrs.
i did notice that the screen takes up most of the battery, with a zopim chat app taking up the second spot (i use it for my business)... i just emailed them to see if they could forward it to their developer to optimize it for the update. we shall see.

Not sure what, but you guys are obviously doing something really weird to get that bad of battery life. Mine will do **THREE DAYS*** on light use (what you are all claiming).
That is up from about 1.5-2 days on 5.0.

[Q] Are Lollipop ROMs ready for primetime?

Hey all,
Last flashed on FireKat months ago and have been wanting to try out Lollipop but wasn't sure if it was ready yet. When I first used FireNote, mega was remarking that it would be a few months before KK was stable enough for everyday use.
Have you guys had good luck with custom Lollipop ROMs? Which ones are the "best" ones you'd recommend?

Sorta/not really. It's like smooth sailing except when you hit the new barrier reef. But it's pretty!
Latest problem is Viper4android can't possibly work until someone figures out how to enable SELinux Permissive mode. Then like something makes a noise or vibrates in a way you might have tamed with Xposed before. But there's no Xposed either. How do you fix it? You don't. I might just go back. Sucks either way for now.
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Galaxy Note 3 - AT&T (sm-n900a)

How's battery life? Right now on firekat I'm losing 35% per hour during use and 3-5% per hour when the screen is off. Can't be worse than this.
Lack of viper and xposed aren't really deal breakers for me. Inconvenient, yes, but still usable.
Root WiFi hotspot still works I assume?
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djfujiyama said:
How's battery life? Right now on firekat I'm losing 35% per hour during use and 3-5% per hour when the screen is off. Can't be worse than this.
Lack of viper and xposed aren't really deal breakers for me. Inconvenient, yes, but still usable.
Root WiFi hotspot still works I assume?
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Running FK with them specs you didn't have something setup right. I'm lucky to use 35% in a days time just saying.

YRC123 said:
Running FK with them specs you didn't have something setup right. I'm lucky to use 35% in a days time just saying.
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Yeah i figured that battery life was abnormal. Not sure how to troubleshoot it, though. When I go to look at battery stats (using GSam) to troubleshoot, it just shows that most of the battery is consumed by "Android System," followed closely by "Kernel (Android OS)." Battery life was pretty good when I first installed FK, but has gone down considerably since first install.
Any idea on how to further troubleshoot?

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Yeah i figured that battery life was abnormal. Not sure how to troubleshoot it, though. When I go to look at battery stats (using GSam) to troubleshoot, it just shows that most of the battery is consumed by "Android System," followed closely by "Kernel (Android OS)." Battery life was pretty good when I first installed FK, but has gone down considerably since first install.
Any idea on how to further troubleshoot?
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Not knowing how you flashed it. always odin back to nc2 then install ss and tr, Flash the rom. Never use battery saver. When using greenify make sure its uncheck in exposed. Don't forget to make a fresh backup of nc2 before flashing fk. But the new build v19n3 and v19n4 is running awesome. Great battery life. One thing I do is in tb is to change Google play services from system app to user app. Hope this helps. If you try this rom again and have problems jump over to the fk thread since this thread is Q&A on LP.

YRC123 said:
Not knowing how you flashed it. always odin back to nc2 then install ss and tr, Flash the rom. Never use battery saver. When using greenify make sure its uncheck in exposed. Don't forget to make a fresh backup of nc2 before flashing fk. But the new build v19n3 and v19n4 is running awesome. Great battery life. One thing I do is in tb is to change Google play services from system app to user app. Hope this helps. If you try this rom again and have problems jump over to the fk thread since this thread is Q&A on LP.
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Yeah I installed FK according to all the instructions and it was fine at first. Battery life degraded over time, though. To give you an idea how long ago I installed FK, I have version 4 installed.
What I'm wondering is if i should install the newest FK or jump over to lollipop. Anyone have any experience with both? Curious to see all the new lollipop features and battery life can hardly get WORSE compared to what I have now.

djfujiyama said:
Yeah I installed FK according to all the instructions and it was fine at first. Battery life degraded over time, though. To give you an idea how long ago I installed FK, I have version 4 installed.
What I'm wondering is if i should install the newest FK or jump over to lollipop. Anyone have any experience with both? Curious to see all the new lollipop features and battery life can hardly get WORSE compared to what I have now.
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Well I tried LP on a older Nexus 4 that I just tinker with I didn't like it. I put slimkat back on it. But the new fk builds is great. I'm not switching to LP unless Mega does a LP build for us. Like I said if you try the new builds just jump over on the threads if you have problems.

It looks like allianceROM is one of the more popular Lollipop ROMs. Anyone have any opinions on it vs firekat?

I think lollipop roms are awesome, very smooth. I did have better battery life with 4.3 then anyother

Does something Special need to be done when going from LP to MM? (Battery issue)

What's up guys. So I had put MM on a friend's N6 for her so that she could enjoy the best of what android can offer (got her to sell her Iphone, Yessss)
Anyway... Now that I have a 64GB nexus 6 of my own and after many days of testing... I feel like something is wrong.
She is a pretty standard user, while I am a super heavy user... and neither of us can get past roughly 10 hours of total time, regardless of SOT. I've tried Chroma, Light, and Euphoria (MM builds) on both of our devices and the results are almost always the same. For her, the past week has been a max of 10 hours total time, but sometimes as little as 6 hours without use if not less, with less than 1 hour of SOT. Then on mine, which I've only had for 2 days mind you, the results are strangely similar, the best I got was 9 hours of total time with 3 hours SOT. While our results are somewhat different they both still... suck.
Is there some kind of magical nonsense I missed that must be preformed before moving to MM? Both devices were on LP to start with. I'm honestly just moving back to 5.1.1 for now (Mainly for xposed anyway) but...still I know that after reading so many good comments in threads that this cannot be some general "MM sucks" thing. It must be our devices, or the way I am modding them.
Basically, for both devices I did the following...
Unlock Bootloader
Flash TWRP, the one that was said to work on MM
Backed up Stock Rom
Flashed a custom ROM
...Is there something new that I am not aware of? I've tried to search a bit but I've honestly not sure what to search for exactly. I tried searching for firmware...but that didn't really seem conclusive.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

battery life has nothing to do with you rooting/unlocking/flashing your phone. it all has to do with how you set up, which apps you install and use, how you use the device, and your signal quality. that said, if you keep your brightness high, you will get lowered battery life, no matter what.

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battery life has nothing to do with you rooting/unlocking/flashing your phone. it all has to do with how you set up, which apps you install and use, how you use the device, and your signal quality. that said, if you keep your brightness high, you will get lowered battery life, no matter what.
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right, but the fact that we both have different uses (mine being heavy hers being light) and use different apps...yet the results are similar?
I'm talking about is there some kind of firmware that is needed? Similar to HTC devices and the OnePlus one going from kitkat to LP?

what carrier are you on? there are different roms per carrier and having the wrong one might be affecting this

Locklear308 said:
right, but the fact that we both have different uses (mine being heavy hers being light) and use different apps...yet the results are similar?
I'm talking about is there some kind of firmware that is needed? Similar to HTC devices and the OnePlus one going from kitkat to LP?
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no. if your phones have booted, and are running, you got everything. your battery life is what i have "normally" seen from average users that dont know much about keeping good battery life. i normally see anywhere from 5-6.5 hours sot, and minimally 20 hours total in battery life.

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no. if your phones have booted, and are running, you got everything. your battery life is what i have "normally" seen from average users that dont know much about keeping good battery life. i normally see anywhere from 5-6.5 hours sot, and minimally 20 hours total in battery life.
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...You're sure? If anything, her light use should allow her to go on for a long time. I've been checking gsam while letting the phone sit. No auto sync or any of that nonsense. And it's averaging 12% per hour... which is just crazy.
I mean I've had to defeat battery sucking issues before, but this is just crazy.

Locklear308 said:
...You're sure? If anything, her light use should allow her to go on for a long time. I've been checking gsam while letting the phone sit. No auto sync or any of that nonsense. And it's averaging 12% per hour... which is just crazy.
I mean I've had to defeat battery sucking issues before, but this is just crazy.
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If dirty flash didn't work I would clean flash. Wipe til it squeaks. Dirty flash don't always work when flashing a new base.

Locklear308 said:
...You're sure? If anything, her light use should allow her to go on for a long time. I've been checking gsam while letting the phone sit. No auto sync or any of that nonsense. And it's averaging 12% per hour... which is just crazy.
I mean I've had to defeat battery sucking issues before, but this is just crazy.
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theres so much more to battery life then just "light use". i sync everything, and dont disable anything, keep my brightness low..
do you/she happen to use facebook? how about are you a gamer?
also, if your signal quality isnt good, your battery will never be.

simms22 said:
theres so much more to battery life then just "light use". i sync everything, and dont disable anything, keep my brightness low..
do you/she happen to use facebook? how about are you a gamer?
also, if your signal quality isnt good, your battery will never be.
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She uses facebook, I do not... But still ... this is crazy terrible battery life. I mean... I expected MM to be better, but at least be equivalent to LP. But this is just insane.
Alright! After reading and looking around more, I've found a post that stated "FOR LOLLIPOP ROM USERS IS NECESSARY START FROM ANDROID M FACTORY OR UPGRADE YOUR BOOTLOADER AND RADIO."
I tried searching for this but I'm not finding anything. I take it I just need to flash the stock factory image, but if one wanted just to upgrade, where are the Bootloader and Radio files?
I am downloading the factory image now and will report if this helps at all, perhaps this will help other users.

I found the best way to go was to flash the stock firmware and start from scratch. I simply did a clean install. My battery life has improved drastically from Lollipop.

Locklear308 said:
She uses facebook, I do not... But still ... this is crazy terrible battery life. I mean... I expected MM to be better, but at least be equivalent to LP. But this is just insane.
Alright! After reading and looking around more, I've found a post that stated "FOR LOLLIPOP ROM USERS IS NECESSARY START FROM ANDROID M FACTORY OR UPGRADE YOUR BOOTLOADER AND RADIO."
I tried searching for this but I'm not finding anything. I take it I just need to flash the stock factory image, but if one wanted just to upgrade, where are the Bootloader and Radio files?
I am downloading the factory image now and will report if this helps at all, perhaps this will help other users.
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they are in the factory image. if you are running marsh, you have them both. btw, factory images https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images?csw=1#yakju

haibane said:
I found the best way to go was to flash the stock firmware and start from scratch. I simply did a clean install. My battery life has improved drastically from Lollipop.
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Did you flash the entire stock rom/firmware/boot etc? Or just the radio and bootloader? I just flashed the bootloader and radio, but I guess I might as well do it all.

Locklear308 said:
Did you flash the entire stock rom/firmware/boot etc? Or just the radio and bootloader? I just flashed the bootloader and radio, but I guess I might as well do it all.
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I did the whole thing. I've found with any phone on any OS, it is generally best to do a full clean install with full number changes.
While you lose a fair amount of content, it is worth the benefit.

haibane said:
I did the whole thing. I've found with any phone on any OS, it is generally best to do a full clean install with full number changes.
While you lose a fair amount of content, it is worth the benefit.
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I always keep my apps backed up on a USB drive lol. Believe it or not this is the first device I've had to go from one major build to the next. Other than the OnePlus One. I was not aware you could even update the bootloader really lol, I thought that was an annoying HTC thing. Alright, I shall get to flashing.

Horrible software?

I read that a lot of problems in OOS system.
battery draining.
sometimes device didnt boot up after ota update or stuck on TWRP recovery.
OP releases many updates and I need to wipe this phone after new version was released? why?
I'm debating whether to buy the device.

I have none of these issues

No issues here.

I would say that these are mainly user errors..., They can not read correctly (or make a little research) before doing something to their phone.
Battery drain can be caused by a lot of things (user settings, faulty apps, signal and so on).
No issue here about battery life nor updates.

Hi,
Flashed 3 or 4 times my 1+3 before offering it to my son when I received my 1+3T, also immediately unlocked and flashed from 3.5.3 to 3.5.4 and now on RR 7.1.1 by nicesoni_ash and never had one issue during processing.
I agree with @Manson79, mostly user errors. Reading some topics and not only one may save from a lot of fear and time...
Cheerz
Sent from my OnePlus3T using XDA Labs

I've had 0 issues even on a custom ROM and a really good SoT too.
I think a lot of fears come from other people who do very silly things to their phones and do not understand what they are doing.
Buy one, its a pretty good phone.

Yeah, i'm running android N and oos 4 stable. After the ota update, the phone was lagging,but then ive made a factory reset and now everything runs incredibly smooth. Im very pleased with it

please more comments..
many problems in OP3T !!!
even GPS problems..

No issues like this at all. Maybe Oxygen is not the most picture perfect and polished OS but definitely none of there happen

How the OP3T is the fastest phone in the world if the oxygen is didnt stable system?

saarxee said:
please more comments..
many problems in OP3T !!!
even GPS problems..
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Yes, READ comments. I have NO issues with OP3T running OOS 4.0.1
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How the OP3T is the fastest phone in the world if the oxygen is didnt stable system?
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I don't understand you.
The OP3T never tried to claim a title of 'fastest phone in the world'. It has great hardware yes. Oxygen OS is a great software.
It seems you're intent on bashing the OP3T, so you're better advised buying a more expensive phone.

Not sure if OP is trolling... anyway, most problems are user errors. Most don't even clear the cache after doing a major OS update like from MM to N, or install random apps that they have no clue what they do in the background, and then go complain.
I am using latest OOS and have zero issues. Battery life and speed are amazing.

On the initial Nougat update I had horrible battery. With the newest update, getting amazing battery. Everything seems to be running great.

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On the initial Nougat update I had horrible battery. With the newest update, getting amazing battery. Everything seems to be running great.
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That's funny. I had the exact opposite of you on the initial release. Good battery, poor performance. At least scrolling certain apps. But I agree, this release is running great.
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dustin_b said:
That's funny. I had the exact opposite of you on the initial release. Good battery, poor performance. At least scrolling certain apps. But I agree, this release is running great.
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Will just leave this here.

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Will just leave this here.
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So I guess you figured out your battery drain issue? Have you had that battery performance on the nexus 6p before?

954wrecker said:
So I guess you figured out your battery drain issue? Have you had that battery performance on the nexus 6p before?
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Not quite this good. It was this newest update that seemed to fix it. Happy with the entire phone now.

I do have one problem with battery life as in attachment. But I still find it a decent phone with at least 4hrs of SOT. I'll still struggling finding what causes the issue but no success so far. I strongly recommend the phone, since battery is the Google issue.

I got no issue since I got my OP3T, mine is chinese version A3010 run 3.5.4 and now 4.0.1. I mostly got 6 to nearly 7 hours of SOT. I play game about 15mn to 30mn each charge and watch youtube all day long. I rocks two sim cards and mostly use wifi. If I use 4g, battery drop very fast.

This is on Official RR 7.1.1 not bad for being on cellular network about 80% of the time.
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Six months since 7.0 and still unsure, Marshmallow or Nougat on N6

I've been very happy with MM on my N6 and still get great battery life and performance. I'm comfortable with ROMs/mods and my phone is pretty much where I want it in terms of functionality and UI. After months of debate, I'm still unsure if it's worth moving to Nougat (and not impressed with O preview either). I'm so unconvinced that I don't even feel like investing the time in testing 7.x particularly after reading posts of battery or compatibility issues. I'm not trying to be "stuck in the past" but just don't see a convincing reason to update.
The last dedicated thread I saw on MM vs N was from Oct 2016, any new opinions since then?

I'm thinking about moving back to MM because of the terrible battery life and performance on nougat.

In the same boat. MM seems to give me better battery life but Nougat seems a little bit more snappier.

I've only been on 7.0 for a couple of weeks, but no complaints.

mclardass said:
I've been very happy with MM on my N6 and still get great battery life and performance. I'm comfortable with ROMs/mods and my phone is pretty much where I want it in terms of functionality and UI. After months of debate, I'm still unsure if it's worth moving to Nougat (and not impressed with O preview either). I'm so unconvinced that I don't even feel like investing the time in testing 7.x particularly after reading posts of battery or compatibility issues. I'm not trying to be "stuck in the past" but just don't see a convincing reason to update.
The last dedicated thread I saw on MM vs N was from Oct 2016, any new opinions since then?
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Hey... Flashed Pure Nexus with EX Kernel as soon as its nougat iteration appeared and never looked back. Well I can't really compare about battery life as my phone is now 2 years old. Still it performs very well, nothing to complain about. Screen on time is the same and standby is better on Android 7 i think. Of course stock firmware is not as polished as it should, but custom ROMs are here to change that. I don't need that much mods on my phone anymore except theme, ad blocker, theme ready apps and maybe a few other things.
What kind of incompatibility issues are you talking about?
Well, I understand you don't want to waist your time , but it's just a matter of backup/flash/test. You won't loose anything and if you don't like it, you can always revert back to MM anyway. I think a weekend is more than enough to decide if it's worth it for you or not.
I usually prefer testing things myself and not based on people statements. Because everyone has his tastes and they unlikely match mines...
Cheers...

I'm on 7.1.1 stock with Franco Kernel, encryption disabled and F2FS filesystem.
No problems with stability, lags or battery life. In fact, I usually get around 5h+ of screen on time, which is pretty good for a 2 years old phone.
Usually, battery life and stability are user fault. Of course we can't say everything is related to users... But if you configure correctly your apps permissions, don't install anything out of the play store and don't do things like undervolting... You should be good to go.
Regards,
Rafael

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What kind of incompatibility issues are you talking about?
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I'd have to go back and look at the threads I've read, the only thing I recall being a deal-killer was not being able to use net.tethering under Nougat (is that still an issue)? I've been very happy with Pure (MM) with Franco on my other devices but have kept stock on my N6. I agree with testing it out myself, just need to find some time, but generally trust opinions on XDA.
Phone has been solid for years and rooted with Nova, adaway, lightflow, multiwindow, and tethering has met my needs. Maybe I'm just being lazy or in a rut but definitely would like something more revolutionary to encourage the upgrade.
Thanks for the input everyone, gives me a lot to think about.
Slainte!

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I'd have to go back and look at the threads I've read, the only thing I recall being a deal-killer was not being able to use net.tethering under Nougat (is that still an issue)? I've been very happy with Pure (MM) with Franco on my other devices but have kept stock on my N6. I agree with testing it out myself, just need to find some time, but generally trust opinions on XDA.
Phone has been solid for years and rooted with Nova, adaway, lightflow, multiwindow, and tethering has met my needs. Maybe I'm just being lazy or in a rut but definitely would like something more revolutionary to encourage the upgrade.
Thanks for the input everyone, gives me a lot to think about.
Slainte!
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Sadly I can't really help you with net.tethering as I don't use it...
Just make a search in Q/A or open a thread if nothing shows up. I'm sure you'll get an answer... :good:
Good luck...

Couple of days with stock 7.1.1 and so far it's fine, nothing that made me thrilled with the update but nothing that makes me want to roll back. Can't say it's snappier than MM or has better battery life, though. Enabled tethering using the usual net.tethering entry as well as 'settings put global tether_dun_required 0' so nothing lost there. Guess if this is the last, full-point update for my beloved N6 I can live with it (until I find an annoyance I can't stand and flash Pure or something else).
Thanks again for everyone's input!

Bought my N6 used back in September. I still have official 7.0 My device has never stuttered or slowed down (outside of extremely low battery and high CPU apps). I have a lot of apps installed, I use it hard, and run some demanding apps (like raw photo conversion) on occasion. And I just clocked 3+ days of battery use with nearly 7 hours of SOT under a variety of uses. I can't imagine not using N on this device.

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Bought my N6 used back in September. I still have official 7.0 My device has never stuttered or slowed down (outside of extremely low battery and high CPU apps). I have a lot of apps installed, I use it hard, and run some demanding apps (like raw photo conversion) on occasion. And I just clocked 3+ days of battery use with nearly 7 hours of SOT under a variety of uses. I can't imagine not using N on this device.
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Thats 7.0, 711 is the issue at least for me

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Thats 7.0, 711 is the issue at least for me
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Curious, what problems do you have in 711? Those issues aside, the OP asked about 7.0 as opposed to 711.

terrible battery life? maybe you need a new battery, I get above 6 SOT hours using Nitrogen ROM

buschris said:
terrible battery life? maybe you need a new battery, I get above 6 SOT hours using Nitrogen ROM
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Its all about standby battery life when using a bt device like an android watch. Not going to get into arguements here but have tested and 7.0 doesnt have the bad drain on my unit and 711 absolutely does. Thus cannot be an old battery if the only change i made was OS version and drastic difference in battery drain. 711 has about 2x+ the standby drain with bt on. 7.0 and 6.0 have much better drain