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First off, let me preface this by saying that I appreciate all of the hard work and time by the devs/volunteers here, and they give us some pretty cool things.
It just seems that no matter what rom I try, it has a bug or 2 that may not keep me from enjoying my phone, but it keeps creeping. Even the so-called stable KK still has growing pains. Is it possible for a rom to be completely stable? (aka, at least as stable as stock) Or is the nature of roms always going to be a bit behind from a standpoint of stability?
I have yet to try a rom (been doing this for 3 yrs) that has been 100% (stock) stable. I can use most roms just fine though, and again, this is not a slight on the devs and those who work hard. But let's be honest, an already flawed Lollipop must be a pain to get make a custom rom from. Am I alone? Btw, I'm back on stock for now, as it works fine. But will be waiting patiently for the awesome devs to figure it out. (and yes, I realize there must be testing for things to get better)
This is why I'm done with custom ROMs. I get all I need from stock KK + Xposed. Haven't flashed a ROM (as a daily driver) in almost 2 years.
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This is why I'm done with custom ROMs. I get all I need from stock KK + Xposed. Haven't flashed a ROM (as a daily driver) in almost 2 years.
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Ahhh, Metalhead. I like the name, as it's my mantra for the last 40 yrs. Anyway, you seem bitter about it, as other things.
I'm just trying to get some real feedback about how people feel. Thanks Metal, noted.
It's not soo much the roms. Stock lollipop is bugged from Google as it's relatively new so hasn't had everything ironed out yet like the older KK
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First off, let me preface this by saying that I appreciate all of the hard work and time by the devs/volunteers here, and they give us some pretty cool things.
It just seems that no matter what rom I try, it has a bug or 2 that may not keep me from enjoying my phone, but it keeps creeping. Even the so-called stable KK still has growing pains. Is it possible for a rom to be completely stable? (aka, at least as stable as stock) Or is the nature of roms always going to be a bit behind from a standpoint of stability?
I have yet to try a rom (been doing this for 3 yrs) that has been 100% (stock) stable. I can use most roms just fine though, and again, this is not a slight on the devs and those who work hard. But let's be honest, an already flawed Lollipop must be a pain to get make a custom rom from. Am I alone? Btw, I'm back on stock for now, as it works fine. But will be waiting patiently for the awesome devs to figure it out. (and yes, I realize there must be testing for things to get better)
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imo yeah. tis why I went back to stock 4.4.4 and GravityBox. No issues since then. None. Zero. Roms not worth fiddling with IMO. too many bugs trying to figure out if it's the app, the kernel, the ROM...I will do custom kernels but...no more than that.
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It's not soo much the roms. Stock lollipop is bugged from Google as it's relatively new so hasn't had everything ironed out yet like the older KK
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Good point.
I think its all in what type of bugs you get. I've seen bugs even on stock roms, custom roms give you those options where stock falls short. I do however think Xposed is a good way to possibly fix some of those issues
Sent from my Nexus 5
4 stock updates from Google within 3-4 months (and we still expect bugs...). How could we have 100% stable custom roms?
Anyways custom roms are stable enough to enjoy my phone and it's way better than stock
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Ahhh, Metalhead. I like the name, as it's my mantra for the last 40 yrs. Anyway, you seem bitter about it, as other things.
I'm just trying to get some real feedback about how people feel. Thanks Metal, noted.
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I'm not bitter about it lol, just got tired of flashing new ROMs all the time. It's nothing against the devs, they do some really great work, I just now prefer the dependability of stock. It was the original Moto X that changed my habits.
It's software, by definition it will have bugs.
The question is whether or not you can live with a particular ROM's set of unique bugs.
I've been running an old (Oct. 2014) CM11 nightly because it mostly gives me what I want without undue grief (weird reboots, battery drain, etc).
It's far from perfect, it won't play nice 100% with my car head end just to list one thing (BT bug, seems to be fixed in CM12).
I play around with other ROMs using MultiROM, but always come back to the old CM11.
I'm quite happy there is such an assortment to try, imagine how unhappy you would be if there was only one and it had a major (in your opinion) bug.
I don't think it's possible to get rid of all bugs ever. Its an os that is working with constantly changing apps and devices. But, I use cataclysm as my dd with elementalx and I don't notice any bugs. Im sure they are there, they just don't affect me with my particular usage.
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Ahhh, Metalhead. I like the name, as it's my mantra for the last 40 yrs. Anyway, you seem bitter about it, as other things.
I'm just trying to get some real feedback about how people feel. Thanks Metal, noted.
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I'm totally agree with @_MetalHead_. I've came to Nexus, because I was tired to flash my Xperias with custom ROMs an CMs., thought I still think that Sonys hardware is supperior than the LG and Acer one.
Sure that all of custom ROMs have bug or two. But that is because Google have all bunch off developers that are fully employed to make stock android. You are aware, that custom ROMs here are made by individuals or small group enthusiasts. And that is. As man grows, he more and more prefer bitter chocolate than the sweet one. Sweet one is for children. And offcourse, we both enjoy.
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I'm totally agree with @_MetalHead_. I've came to Nexus, because I was tired to flash my Xperias with custom ROMs an CMs., thought I still think that Sonys hardware is supperior than the LG and Acer one.
Sure that all of custom ROMs have bug or two. But that is because Google have all bunch off developers that are fully employed to make stock android. You should be aware, that custom ROMs here are made by individuals or small group enthusiasts. And that is. As man grows, he more and more prefer bitter chocolate than the sweet one. Sweet one is for children. And offcourse, we both enjoy.
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That's funny, I used to hate dark chocolate as a kid and now I prefer it.
They all have bugs. Every ROM I've used stock or custom has had bugs. Though staying stock or staying with the stable builds by the big name teams yielded the most stable experience for me. If someone flashes weeklies/nightlies and does not expect a bug or two they're doing it wrong. Main thing is finding something you as a user can live with.
It's funny that I just opened XDA 5 minutes ago to search for people's opinions about completely stable custom roms and I immediately came across this thread. I guess I will keep my phone stock and try Xposed for the first time when it's available.
I was done with flashing and experimenting with my Galaxy S2 a while ago after I realized there wasn't a perfect rom. But it's tempting though now I have a Nexus phone..
Send from the Matrix
I wondered about this, reading about what devs have deal with what googles supplies over time.
I tried Cataclysm lollipop and that's really close to being a solid rom but the bugs from google really make it frustrating to use as a daily rom, poor ram management and lockups, the inabilty to multi task without redrawing.
from a consumers point of view you expect lollipop to be an improvement over kitkat,
Switched back to kitkat and didn't realised how good and battery friendly It is.
This is why I stayed with nexus,the closet thing to a stable phone, will wait for 5.1 before I update.
Yes they are. In the lollipop updates on unofficial cm roms I'm still getting camera bug and the voip bug where I can't be heard on a headset. They appear after a few hours to weeks. Happend on a nighty today so Sent logcat in. Lollipop shouldn't have been released in the mess it's in. It's laughable that a couple of pple cherry picking from roms will do anything other than incorporate the bugs. There is a Golden rule here # devs can do no wrong and you can't put them down# cherry pickers are not developing anything imo. They merge others work, sometimes producing a better rom than the original, granted, but fixing problems. They have no idea 90%of the time. 10%are more skilled. But if google with hundreds of coders can't get it right what chance have independent roms? Look at the official lollipop CM. Still on nightlys and will be when 5.1 comes.
I run roms until a bug crops in and won't go which breaks something I need. Them on to the next. Bigsys?? K K roms were the closest to perfection. Fast and fluid.
Kernels is another thing, for another day..
While they may be less than perfect, from what I've been reading the Nexus 5 may be skipping 5.1 and going directly to 5.2
Sent from my Nexus 5
People are less than perfect by nature so that being said ,art imitates life as.
well as android 5.0 and above
From my point of view, even the stock ROM has its own flaws and sometimes it gets resolved a few revisions/versions later. On a custom ROM, it tends to be resolved pretty quickly provided the developer is actively monitoring user feedback and supporting it.
I'll usually only look for custom ROMs which focuses on staying as stock as possible while improving its speed and stability, I'll try to stay away from ROMs that offers a lot of other additional features which may or may not break another thing or two.
Since official update missing from too long time in latest months I have searching for alternative ROM or MOD since I cannot spend a lot of money for a new smartphone again after only a couple of years and with stock ROM Optimus for some reason is more laggy than smartphone far less powerful.
Unfortunately in all I have found some issue and problems, so now I'm wondering what are the ROM\MODS more used by the P880 community on XDA..
Eventually a list of not-working things (eg missing radio, broken GPS, unusable MHL HDMI out etc.) would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Everything working with BlissPop 3.2.
I am using CM 11 nightlies and I am waiting for its final release !
after more than 1 year of flashing many ROMs, I think I've found my best tradeoff with this: omni-4.4.4-20150520-p880-FINAL
No bugs for my use and excellent smothness.
The only drawback is the long time required to turn mobile data ON.
To keep the thread alive..
My experience after 2 years using this phone and custom roms:
- phone is s**t (but I do not intend to buy a new one, so here goes..)
- Used some recommended roms laying around, but here are some roms I tested and used for longer period.
- I use phone for everyday use. I want lagfree, fast and good battery life (at least in deep sleep). I mostly use some simple apps, browsing, messages, pdf books, camera and video recording.
1. CM11 (4.2.2.)
Great rom, with some bugs, but nothing serious.
Occasional lags, good battery life - some builds were awsome (less than 0,3%/hour batt consumption).
Maybe little too slow occasionally.
2.CM11 (4.4.4)
Also great rom, with some nice features, much more polished than 4.2.2. At start there were great builds, but after some time it got worse. Probably kernel related.
Quite good speed, some lags, quite good batt (but not so good as 4.2.2).
If you did not restart phone in a while, it got very laggy - at least second period of rom development.
3.MAHDI FINAL
Best rom - is`s features are endless. Great for customising everything, quite good speed, but laggy from time to time - when you most need it! Battery similar to CM11 4.4.4, but better with speed. Quite good, but too much lag for me.
3.MOURTA LS+KERNEL
Best rom I used becouse of smoothness, features and customization of whole rom. Really smooth.
BUT it has a bug with gapps - if you do not google enable update service(s) - it does not go to deep sleep.
And MAJOR DOWNSIDE - worst batt life of all the roms I used. Tried everything, but batt life did not get any better. Especially when you use the phone - batt drains as hell.
So I got a felling that all this speed and other goodies comes with bad batt.
I can do this on my own, with any rom, by putting governor to performance
Too bad for this rom... Goodbye!
4.OMNI 4.4.4. final
So I tried this recommended rom - after reading some forum posts.
It is not so great with features (some of them I miss), but it is almost lagfree, quite fast, good batt life..
Maybe only rom I used, that is stable and fast enough for everyday use..
I miss some functions and LS speed , but for now - I am satisfied.
For the end
- I did not tried any custom kernels, at least for longer period. Had a felling they all got too bad batt life for my taste.
- tried also scripts and tweaks 2.2, but I did not notice any big improvment over my demands (stable, fast, batt).
And it would be great if we all together find the best rom for everyday use ?!
And maybe upload the zips to some cloud, for later generations to use ?
I personally would like to get CM11 4.2.2 builds.
And CM11 unofficial builds to try.
That would be great, if whole LG 4x community could create final ROM for our phone - with everything done, and working as it shoud be.
Personally I use Resurrection Remix 5.4.5 ROM. Pretty good performance and battery life after some tweaks (Power Nap, disabling some wakelocks etc.). But it wasn't updated since May 2015 Sometimes it's going crazy: interface, and system crashes, but that's ocassionally (every day ? - f%#&#).
This phone is S%$t, and sometimes I want to throw it through the window... But i'm poor xD
Blisspop 3.4
CM 11 3.14 Nightly
Some times I get no signal and the phone wont wake up from deep sleep but most of the time it's not bad at all.
Yeah bros, i totally understand you all...Every ROM i used (some for short, other for long periods of time) eventually turned to be ****. I of course dont blame not one dev, as their doing their best to keep alive a crappy smartphone. Right now i use for some time the CM 12.1 i think, as it was the most (at least) usable ROM, whitout huge bugs and a whole lot of lag. There were a lot of times i wanted to burn this useless piece of **** and throw it out the window...But finally the time has come. I ordered a LG G4! Comming next week. I will miss you all out there, as we shared strugle... :crying::crying::highfive:
I want an update to this survey. Still I haven't found a ROM where everything works. In some ROM doesn't work correctly the GPS, in other ROMS I aren't able to scan QR codes. other ROMS have TV out broken, fm radio broken or videocamera not fully functional or with worsened quality... other ROMS are laggy or with freezes.
This is a 1,5 Ghz quad core with 1GB ram, is an outdated device but still far more powerful than many entry levels in the marked that are released with recent Android OS version and are way faster despite their hardware.
What are the most newer ROM fully working for daily use?
MoltenMotherBoard Lollipop 5.1.1
The only not-working stuffs, that I know of, are QR code scanning and FM radio. QR code scanning can never be fixed for grouper blobs based ROMs. FM radio is never a critical feature. Most custom ROMs choose to ignore this for most Android phones, not just LG O4X.
If you ever build the ROM from source, then you will appreciate this Lollipop ROM that it is preserving most of the pristine Google AOSP experience as much as possible.
Unfortunately for me that my taste of Android OS has been less than desirable until Lollipop. It is my personal choice that I won't look back on anything lesser than Lollipop on my Android phone. This is also one of the reason I am staying away even from LG stock JB ROM. If we take away issues with OS aging, then we hope to be able to declare that stock ROM should be perfect. But I can tell you that for LG O4X, LG had failed this.
In short, I just want to tell you that it is very rare to find custom ROMs matching the functionalities of stock ROM perfectly. If you had to take the route of custom ROMs, then you need to choose base on features that matter most for your usage.
Is there any rom with sustained performance and stagefright fixes (maybe f2fs for perfomance)?
I don't really care if its 4.3, 4.4 or 5.1
As long as it has halfway decent battery life (I know the tegra3 is power hungry) and it doesn't have seconds of lag in whatsapp like the stock rom, I am happy.
I am like you, tried many Rom's untill today. I think our P880 is same but there is something different, I know devices have same parts but somehow different.
I mean some Rom works for me very well but same rom for another friend dosn't work as it's supposed to be.
Lately I am using Euphoria for daily driver. I like LP features. Jb or Kit Kat doesn't satisfied me. And I decide to buy new phone because like I said before P880 's hardware doesn't enough anymore. I think I will buy Z5.
asgz said:
I am like you, tried many Rom's untill today. I think our P880 is same but there is something different, I know devices have same parts but somehow different.
I mean some Rom works for me very well but same rom for another friend dosn't work as it's supposed to be.
Lately I am using Euphoria for daily driver. I like LP features. Jb or Kit Kat doesn't satisfied me. And I decide to buy new phone because like I said before P880 's hardware doesn't enough anymore. I think I will buy Z5.
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Yes, I do agree with u on the fact that our devices are somewhat different from one another and we are having somewhat difficult time in coping with the new OS provided that our hardware are a bit outdated. However, I think this phone is really endurable and I am very satisfied with this, I have been using this phone for almost three years and it still function as it is so I have to say I am impressed. Currently I am trying out cm11 and mahdi 4.4., I have to say cm11 is rock stable but I would say mahdi has a lot of customizable features that I like. So it is quite difficult to choose among them. But for LP rom, I think it requires way too much resources that our phone might not be able to cope with.
Beanstalk 4.4.x
playitlouder said:
Is there any rom with sustained performance and stagefright fixes (maybe f2fs for perfomance)?
I don't really care if its 4.3, 4.4 or 5.1
As long as it has halfway decent battery life (I know the tegra3 is power hungry) and it doesn't have seconds of lag in whatsapp like the stock rom, I am happy.
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May I suggest beanstalk. Good battery, lots of optional features like halo etc (only thing that doesnt work is the screen recorder). If there was a lollipop version, then I would run it in heartbeat :good:
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May I suggest beanstalk. Good battery, lots of optional features like halo etc (only thing that doesnt work is the screen recorder). If there was a lollipop version, then I would run it in heartbeat :good:
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I am running Mahdi at the moment.
Works, responsiveness is fine. But sometimes PlayServices go bezerk and cause wakelocks, until the battery dies.
And Whatsapp sometimes get's messed up when the screen rotates.
meerameer said:
May I suggest beanstalk. Good battery, lots of optional features like halo etc (only thing that doesnt work is the screen recorder). If there was a lollipop version, then I would run it in heartbeat :good:
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I have heard many good things about beanstalk but never had the chance to experience that as most of the links in the post are dead.... Is there anywhere that we can find to try out that rom?
I am currently using ICS Stock 4.0.3
Also tried custom roms like Cm11 and Cm12.1
For me Stock (ICS) is good as it provide me best battery life for charging,usage,camera,wifi etc
Just waiting for Cm13
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I have heard many good things about beanstalk but never had the chance to experience that as most of the links in the post are dead.... Is there anywhere that we can find to try out that rom?
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Unfortuantly that is the only source i know of for beanstalk.
the 26/12/2013 link works, and most of the ones at the bottom too (remember though to right click on the big blue "download now" and choose "open link in new tab" to start the download on Dev-Host
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I am running Mahdi at the moment.
Works, responsiveness is fine. But sometimes PlayServices go bezerk and cause wakelocks, until the battery dies.
And Whatsapp sometimes get's messed up when the screen rotates.
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Try to use privacy guard to block the wake-up and keep awake of the google play service, then the drain should be gone.
Hey guys,
I've had my T-Mobile S5 for about 2 months, bought it used after my S4 drowned in a swimming pool. So far I love the thing, and I've been trying lots of ROMs, but I can't seem to find one that matches the speed or battery life of the stock! What's up with that?
Memorable roms I've tried:
Cyanogenmod 12.1 Nightly
Tesla ROM for S5
TipsyOS for S5
All of these roms were stable, but they felt slow. Especially from waking the device while locked, it always seemed to take a few seconds for the display to pop up, as opposed to the almost instantaneous response from the stock (debloated) T-Mobile rom. Another issue was battery life, with the stock debloated rom I get insane battery life. Like I can use it all day and still have 60%+ when I get home from work. With the other roms I never had more than 20%. I gave each rom several days to "settle" but nothing seemed to change.
I'm skeptical that roms based on CM12.1 would be any faster/better, but I'm willing to try. I think AICP would be my next choice.
What do you guys have to say? Any fast/good roms out there for the S5 that don't kill battery life?
I found the same, tried a few popular custom ROMs, but none of them matched the smoothness, stability or battery life of stock
Samsung have really optimised their stock ROMs
I felt the same for a long time
I've felt mostly the same for the most part. I've had my gs 5 since the day it came out for tmobile. I really like it and all. But I've really been on the prowl for a good custom rom. Most of the best things aren't as stable as stock touchwiz.
I mean don't get me wrong there are a ton of custom roms (at least right now, a year ago not so much).
That said I have done extensive testing of alot of aosp roms. MY findings are below:
- The most stable rom I've used was probably a version of sokp rom from all the way back in may. Its not perfect, but pretty quick. I used it for 6 months before it suddenly started giving me bootloops which I think I caused by messing with xposed and my kernel. Overall, It has probably the best battery life and is the least volatile, but has little features and is outdated. Another thing to note is that I used ktoonez kernel with this so that maybe why battery life was better.
LInk: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...rom-sonic-kang-project-android-5-1-1-t3107139
-Another rom that I used frequently, and am currently using is Fusion rom. Its ever so slightly more buggy, and you have to find your own gapps but still stable. Not to mention that fusion probably has more features than any other custom rom out there. I cant speak for the battery life just yet, but its bearable. Another plus is their still updating it! Its also the fastest of the three IMO.
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...m-fusion-v5-1-lp5-0-2r1-klte-kltespr-t3036933
- The last custom rom you should look into is dirty unicorns. Its not that big so you proabably havent heard of it, but its just as stable as the sokp rom. It has alot more features though, and is still updated frequently. Has alotta bloat though for an aosp rom, as isn't particularly fast for a custom rom.
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/orig-development/rom-dirty-unicorns-v9-0-t3005670
Based on your memorable roms, I might also suggest looking into AICP which is suuuuuuupppper fast, faster than alotta roms but still only on nightlies.
Let me know what you think, and sorry for the long post I just got carried away.
I hope this helped
it's a useful subject indeed
thanks again
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I've felt mostly the same for the most part. I've had my gs 5 since the day it came out for tmobile. I really like it and all. But I've really been on the prowl for a good custom rom. Most of the best things aren't as stable as stock touchwiz.
I mean don't get me wrong there are a ton of custom roms (at least right now, a year ago not so much).
That said I have done extensive testing of alot of aosp roms. MY findings are below:
- The most stable rom I've used was probably a version of sokp rom from all the way back in may. Its not perfect, but pretty quick. I used it for 6 months before it suddenly started giving me bootloops which I think I caused by messing with xposed and my kernel. Overall, It has probably the best battery life and is the least volatile, but has little features and is outdated. Another thing to note is that I used ktoonez kernel with this so that maybe why battery life was better.
LInk: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...rom-sonic-kang-project-android-5-1-1-t3107139
-Another rom that I used frequently, and am currently using is Fusion rom. Its ever so slightly more buggy, and you have to find your own gapps but still stable. Not to mention that fusion probably has more features than any other custom rom out there. I cant speak for the battery life just yet, but its bearable. Another plus is their still updating it! Its also the fastest of the three IMO.
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...m-fusion-v5-1-lp5-0-2r1-klte-kltespr-t3036933
- The last custom rom you should look into is dirty unicorns. Its not that big so you proabably havent heard of it, but its just as stable as the sokp rom. It has alot more features though, and is still updated frequently. Has alotta bloat though for an aosp rom, as isn't particularly fast for a custom rom.
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/orig-development/rom-dirty-unicorns-v9-0-t3005670
Based on your memorable roms, I might also suggest looking into AICP which is suuuuuuupppper fast, faster than alotta roms but still only on nightlies.
Let me know what you think, and sorry for the long post I just got carried away.
I hope this helped
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Long posts are the best posts! Anyway, the only reason I'm hesitant to try AICP is because it's CM based, and I had Bluetooth issues with the official CM. (I use Bluetooth every day for hours)
I think I'll try at least Fusion Rom, thanks for the insight! I'm hoping that SlimRoms will make a comeback and *hopefully* add support for our device. I used slim on a previous phone and it was phenomenal.
i want the new look. and enjoy new features. i have never seen a boot loop. so i cant take risk of that. though everyday bugs are okay. as i have other devices. id be okay? as in from boot loops or soft or hard bricks? Thanks.
No, definitely not. I don't know what your Android experience is, but from your comments and the "junior member" tag (not a reliable indicator, I know), plus the fact that you've never had a bootloop (lucky!) I'm guessing that it's not much.
I've had Nexus devices for several years and I'm sort of comfortable with upgrading and fixing, so I tried the Android N preview. I lasted about a week. Far too many things were broken - many apps have not been upgraded, and probably won't be until we're far closer to the final release.
So unless you want to ruin your day-to-day experience with one non-working app after another, have patience and wait at least until the second preview, and even then wait to read in these forums about how many problems still remain.
As to new features and new look - minimal, and not worth the aggravation, in my opinion.
But there you go - others may have a different opinion - you'll have to decide for yourself, of course.
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i want the new look. and enjoy new features. i have never seen a boot loop. so i cant take risk of that. though everyday bugs are okay. as i have other devices. id be okay? as in from boot loops or soft or hard bricks? Thanks.
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I'd say a minimum for checking out the preview is:
-leave the bootloader unlocked
-Know how to flash a factory image on a per image basis (no flash-all.bat)
-Have 0 critical data on the thing, if you wipe it you lose nothing you care about. Keep in mind even camera photos, sms history, small things like that. (btw N preview is very very buggy trying to take pictures on any app I got force closes everytime I opened google camera, lcamera, or open camera)
When the marshmallow preview came out I put it on my N5, it was just a table weight at the point when the preview came out as I had my N6. Now with the N preview I went and charged ahead putting it on my daily use device, and it "worked" but a LOT of apps weren't working correctly, many games Bloons monkey city, hill climb racing, etc crashed randomly or didn't open at all, some other apps like Dish anywhere, yahoo messenger, google camera, UPS, etc didn't work either. MXplayer was running every video in super safe Software decoding mode.
The transitions and animations were pretty awful on stock kernel, only kernel I found to work well was 2.95GHz Elementalx (running on ondemand and yes I noticed slightly smoother performance because ondemand shoots to max frequency under any load) or Elite Kernel with Blu-active governor (highly recommend elite though smoothest kernel I've seen.) And under any kernel the device ran much hotter than Marshmallow, I could only get 2.5 hours of mid brightness SD youtube over wifi from 100 to 0 battery (I can easily exceed that with a stock N5...) and again device ran hot on stock kernel doing that.
SOoo if your N6 is your sideline phone go for it, it'll dirty flash over stock and I didn't see any improvement from clean flashing :/. But seriously this preview is more buggy than the first Lollipop preview was imo.
Long story short I'm back on Marshmallow PureNexus + Elite kernel. Much smoothness and back to my cool running 4 hour screen time every day phone that sleeps like a baby . (granted that could just be more of not running stock but I went from Marshmallow xposed gravitybox stock rom and N was buggier w/ more random reboots and freezups.
Make sure to read the sticky`s thread (in my signature) for usefull and lifesaving threads about flashing etc etc and getting some basic knowledge you will need before you tinker with your phone, after that unlock the bootloader and backup important files just to be sure and then enroll to the google beta thread.
-Edit- first backup off course and then unlock the bootloader. Btw for a first release its quite stable and fluent, the 2nd release should come within a week i guess.
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No, definitely not. I don't know what your Android experience is, but from your comments and the "junior member" tag (not a reliable indicator, I know), plus the fact that you've never had a bootloop (lucky!) I'm guessing that it's not much.
I've had Nexus devices for several years and I'm sort of comfortable with upgrading and fixing, so I tried the Android N preview. I lasted about a week. Far too many things were broken - many apps have not been upgraded, and probably won't be until we're far closer to the final release.
So unless you want to ruin your day-to-day experience with one non-working app after another, have patience and wait at least until the second preview, and even then wait to read in these forums about how many problems still remain.
As to new features and new look - minimal, and not worth the aggravation, in my opinion.
But there you go - others may have a different opinion - you'll have to decide for yourself, of course.
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thanks man. so i guess i should wait for more stable build.
StykerB said:
I'd say a minimum for checking out the preview is:
-leave the bootloader unlocked
-Know how to flash a factory image on a per image basis (no flash-all.bat)
-Have 0 critical data on the thing, if you wipe it you lose nothing you care about. Keep in mind even camera photos, sms history, small things like that. (btw N preview is very very buggy trying to take pictures on any app I got force closes everytime I opened google camera, lcamera, or open camera)
When the marshmallow preview came out I put it on my N5, it was just a table weight at the point when the preview came out as I had my N6. Now with the N preview I went and charged ahead putting it on my daily use device, and it "worked" but a LOT of apps weren't working correctly, many games Bloons monkey city, hill climb racing, etc crashed randomly or didn't open at all, some other apps like Dish anywhere, yahoo messenger, google camera, UPS, etc didn't work either. MXplayer was running every video in super safe Software decoding mode.
The transitions and animations were pretty awful on stock kernel, only kernel I found to work well was 2.95GHz Elementalx (running on ondemand and yes I noticed slightly smoother performance because ondemand shoots to max frequency under any load) or Elite Kernel with Blu-active governor (highly recommend elite though smoothest kernel I've seen.) And under any kernel the device ran much hotter than Marshmallow, I could only get 2.5 hours of mid brightness SD youtube over wifi from 100 to 0 battery (I can easily exceed that with a stock N5...) and again device ran hot on stock kernel doing that.
SOoo if your N6 is your sideline phone go for it, it'll dirty flash over stock and I didn't see any improvement from clean flashing :/. But seriously this preview is more buggy than the first Lollipop preview was imo.
Long story short I'm back on Marshmallow PureNexus + Elite kernel. Much smoothness and back to my cool running 4 hour screen time every day phone that sleeps like a baby . (granted that could just be more of not running stock but I went from Marshmallow xposed gravitybox stock rom and N was buggier w/ more random reboots and freezups.
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thanks for detailed reply sir. i decided to wait untill some stable build comes. as i dont know anything about flashing. im too afraid to even try. :crying: thanks though:good::good:
If you do decide to register for the N preview, you'll eventually get an OTA update which will apply the N over your existing M and you'll lose nothing.
BUT...
I think I've read a couple of threads where people have accepted the OTA and it hasn't worked, and they hadn't unlocked their bootloaders and therefore have no phone at all. As a bare minimum, if you're going to try the preview, you should unlock the bootloader so that you have at least a fighting chance of installing a new ROM if there's a problem.
Normally root prevents OTAs, but strangely it worked fine on my rooted N6. Maybe the systemless root fooled it...
BUT...
If you unlock the bootloader, you'll lose all your data - it wipes the phone, so back up photos, SMS, etc.
And if you're not confident about doing this, then I stick with my original answer - don't touch N at all until the final factory release around October.
(P.S. A plea to everyone in these forums. Don't reply to a simple 1-page thread post copying the entire post to which you're replying. I've already read the original - I don't need to read it again. Copy the original post only where necessary - e.g. if it's on a previous page. And even then copy only the point to which you're replying, not the entire post. The result will be clearer and shorter threads which will be more enjoyable to read.)
i'm going to wait for the factory release. Thanks again. and sure no problem ill keep that in mind.
These are horrible answers
These are horrible answers by people who themselves don't know enough about the subject to give any advice, for example, the first gentleman referred to your XDA member status to partially determine your knowledge on the subject. Consider mine, i have a senior member account, and i have now started this one which i use when i want to have some quiet time. It is annoying that there are some who think that after they have learned to flash a ROM on their Nexus device (the easiest device to flash) that they are part of some exclusive club in which their first duty is to deter any would be members from ever wanting to join. These people should be praising you for your interest, not deterring you from it.
That being said, here is my opinion on your question, you have a Nexus device so you probably have some sort of interest in Android or AOSP in general, so start learning all that you can about it. You're main focus should be in researching your bootloader unlock, fastboot, ADB, and your custom recovery of choice... (My preference is TWRP). Once you have your custom recovery in place and have made a full backup with it, there is little you can do to ruin your device, just make sure to never touch the recovery partition again until you are a little more knowledgeable. Once you feel like you have done the research you need, than take a crack at it. We all had to take the leap at one point or another. It isn't rocket science, these people are not smarter than you are, and its no big deal if you aren't happy with the new version, worst case scenario is you wipe and re flash. You said you have other devices in case yours has a hiccup and takes a day or so to come back, so just have fun with it. Good luck and feel free to pm me if you need any info or help.
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I agree.. I never signed up for the beta program(unless flashing N automatically enrolled me).. At the minimum unlock the bootloader.. Learn what you can and give it a shot. My experience with N has been almost perfect. All the apps I use work, I've installed my magpie transparent theme, camera opens normally, not one unintended reboot. I like N a lot. I came from pureNexus rom. Losing a device or two might come with the learning experience(I lost one Evo & Evo Lte) but I have more knowledge because I learned along the way. Go for it!!
its very easy..
if you want a N ota(all the N previews), then sign up. if you could care less about otas, then dont sign up. all signing up will do is let you get a N ota.
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Depends. How badly do you NEED your phone? Do you use it for important business? Can you afford it to be 'down' for any length of time? What are your expectations..root?Adaway?TWRP? etc. Will your desired themes/layers/tweaks work on N? I cannot answer these questions for you, and no one else can. It's all a balancing act between risk and stability..some of us live on the edge, some should have no shame in waiting for stability.
And this may help people to decide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/unlock-bootloader-t3356276
If you don't know what you're doing, just don't do it. Simple.
Slight deviation from the topic but can i accept the N ota if I am stock rooted? Will it work and will I lose root?
Depends on the root. I was rooted with (as I remember, may be wrong) SuperSU v2.67 and to my astonishment the OTA worked. You will lose root, but it's simple to restore.
But read the warnings above - unless you're really experienced and can fix your phone the risk outweighs the small benefits, in my opinion, especially if you do it now when the second preview will be available shortly.
And whether you do or not, unlock your bootloader so that if you have problems you have at least a fighting chance of recovering your phone.
And note - UNLOCKING YOUR BOOTLOADER WIPES YOUR PHONE.
Thanks for the detailed response. My bootloader is unlocked already so at least that bit us done. I rooted just before the April update came out. Happy to lose root and try to get it back once the ota has been installed as there isn't much I use it for anyways.
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Heck yes. That is the joy of having a Nexus
I'm still running preview 1 and it's cool and all but, the lag gets pretty frustrating. I would at least wait until preview 2 if you're really feeling it.
Hello XDA
I know there is no such thing as the best ROM but I was hoping to do a little cheating and save my self some reading and get some opinions on what would fit me the best.
I use my phone as a business phone and thus my battery is dying constantly. I got ALOT of SMS and my phone is constantly slowing down. I want something that won't seem like a old device.
I want to root to install a new ROM and battery tweaks. Here are my requirements:
MUST be stable
Smooth
Good battery life
I want something I don't have to constantly tweak. With my note 4 I essentially changed so much that at the end it became such a nuisance trying to keep modding etc. I want to set this up and forget about it, unless needed.
Thanks !
Use Paranoid Android 7.2.1
Vertex OS
BlackMamba08 said:
Hello XDA
I know there is no such thing as the best ROM but I was hoping to do a little cheating and save my self some reading and get some opinions on what would fit me the best.
I use my phone as a business phone and thus my battery is dying constantly. I got ALOT of SMS and my phone is constantly slowing down. I want something that won't seem like a old device.
I want to root to install a new ROM and battery tweaks. Here are my requirements:
MUST be stable
Smooth
Good battery life
I want something I don't have to constantly tweak. With my note 4 I essentially changed so much that at the end it became such a nuisance trying to keep modding etc. I want to set this up and forget about it, unless needed.
Thanks !
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There are people that use RR and have insane battery life, but i recommend hydrogen os because it's officially supported by Oneplus and have a better battery life than oxygen os
sidbvm321 said:
Use Paranoid Android 7.2.1
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Why? Benefits?
ram4ufriends said:
Vertex OS
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Why?
Ivanprince99 said:
There are people that use RR and have insane battery life, but i recommend hydrogen os because it's officially supported by Oneplus and have a better battery life than oxygen os
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Thanks, I'll look into this!
I understand where you are coming from, but from a practical point of view, if someone recommended a ROM, you may find your experience different from theirs. Happens all the time. Second, it's a good idea to read first. I just got this phone. All I have done is read threads here at xda. Not even so much ROMs, but reading about the phone. This step alone has saved me from myself in the past. Makes it easier to troubleshoot problems.
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Youll probably find yourself coming back to stock tbh lol...
koreansoup said:
Youll probably find yourself coming back to stock tbh lol...
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I agree. I have tested enough roms to conclude that for the 3T there's no point in trying to find something better than stock
Perhaps only something purely based on oxygen os, but more debloated, like freedomOS
basically it doesnt matter, 99% is all placebo.
TugaPower is out-of-box really good, which is LineageOS with some small mods (Viper4Android Audio mod ie.)
BlackMamba08 said:
Why? Benefits?
Why?
Thanks, I'll look into this!
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good battery life, camera comparable to oxygen os, stable and fast rom , theme option for people who don't use substratum theme engine
Beta with Magisk for root and a kernel of your choice. Get some performance and battery benefits from the kernel (if that's the type you decide to flash). Debloat it. Use Greenify and BetterBatteryStats to eliminate wakelocks.
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Why?
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Smooth, stable and substratum suppprt
I guess stock is the best choice here for you. It has no additional battery hungry features like viper but is still stable. You may consider flashing a kernel instead and I would hardly recommend you to read into them since that's the best way to get to know to new kernels.
BlackMamba08 said:
Hello XDA
I know there is no such thing as the best ROM but I was hoping to do a little cheating and save my self some reading and get some opinions on what would fit me the best.
I use my phone as a business phone and thus my battery is dying constantly. I got ALOT of SMS and my phone is constantly slowing down. I want something that won't seem like a old device.
I want to root to install a new ROM and battery tweaks. Here are my requirements:
MUST be stable
Smooth
Good battery life
I want something I don't have to constantly tweak. With my note 4 I essentially changed so much that at the end it became such a nuisance trying to keep modding etc. I want to set this up and forget about it, unless needed.
Thanks !
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I would say oos..if u want a flawless stock experience with better battery life, use freedom os..
I personally use oos open beta 12( rooted with magisk) with elemental x kernel..it gives me good battery and flawless performance..apps like substratum and viper 4 arise works fine..
Thanks for all the replies. I tried out RR and had an issue with the WiFi dropping - since this was a business phone I decided not to flash a custom ROM. I am now on OOS open beta, the latest one. Loving the parallel apps feature!
Now to get into theming and modding. I've got the basics down already like greenify, BBS.
Any recommendations on rooted apps? What have I missed in the last year or so