Forgive me if this has been asked before. I did search, but I couldn't seem to find an answer to this.
I have a dev edition model. I really want to root, but have been holding off because there are bugs with the current build of Lollipop and I'm kind of hoping Moto will release a 5.02 update soon to kill the memory leak and other issues. That being said, I have really been itching for root.
If I did root, what would I have to do to this phone to update it to the new version? Would I have to completely return to stock and wipe? Or could I ADB sideload? Seems like I was reading that you can't update at all when you're rooted, even if you disable root.
Without any idea how much longer it'll be before the next update, I'm finding it harder and harder to hold off on root, but I don't want to go through hell to get it back to stock and update it.
Thanks for any help and sorry if this has already been asked.
From what I understand, root is fine. It is installing a custom recovery that will stop you from getting the OTA. You can very easily undo root. As a matter if fact, you can pretty easily reinstall the stock recovery also.
diggitydogg said:
From what I understand, root is fine. It is installing a custom recovery that will stop you from getting the OTA. You can very easily undo root. As a matter if fact, you can pretty easily reinstall the stock recovery also.
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Thanks for the reply.
Most of the time, that's true. I have updated a lot of phones by simply unrooting, applying the update, and rooting again, or using ADB sideload and then just rooting. But from what I have been reading about the Moto X 2014, you have to completely restore it back to stock before doing anything, even if you just use the temp boot method to root.
Is that wrong? I can't seem to find any info that confirms either way.
I've installed custom recovery, how can I reverse it and install the original recovery for update?
One advantage of root is you'll have Titanium Backup, so even if you do have to do a full wipe before applying the update, you could just update it and restore everything back quickly using TiBu. With lollipop, apparently the update file checks for the entire system checksum as a whole instead of each file so any slight modification to the system will mostly require pure stock and this is the same even with the nexus. So yeah, you most likely have to wipe your device before updating. I'd say, wait till Xposed for Lollipop is out, its almost there, once it comes out go ahead and root it, it'll at least be worth the hassle then
If you're rooted with lollipop and want to take an OTA update you can flash stock recovery and the stock system image. At that point you should still have all apps/data and be able to take a OTA update. The recovery and system files should be the exact version you already have and of course anytime you flash realize you could lose data!
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If you're rooted with lollipop and want to take an OTA update you can flash stock recovery and the stock system image. At that point you should still have all apps/data and be able to take a OTA update. The recovery and system files should be the exact version you already have and of course anytime you flash realize you could lose data!
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Right. All you need to do is flash the stock /system partition and also the recovery if you replaced it. I don't know why everyone's talking about having to wipe the entire phone with the all the stock images.
Hey guys. Forgive me for my noobness here, I'm still kind of new to rooting etc. So I've got an Australian nexus 6, running 5.0.1, its rooted, I used the nexus root toolkit, and it installed twrp, I want to update to 5.1, downloaded the update from aosp or whatever and tried to sideload it, I kept getting errors and fails. Both twrp and adb are updated. Now I think from what I've read, after rooting a 5.0 device you can't receive OTAs anymore. I just got the OTA notification, I downloaded it and pressed install, it restarted then booted into twrp and didn't start the update process. I've tried unrooting but it failed. My questions are: can I install the OTA through twrp? Is there a way to bypass twrp to continue the update? Can I factory reset through settings on the phone to go back to stock and then do the update that way? (I've heard its bad to factory reset like that, not sure why or if its true?) Just want 5.1 already! Any help is appreciated, and if possible dumb it down a bit because some terminology still is not known to me
Thanks in advance
ice_cold17 said:
Hey guys. Forgive me for my noobness here, I'm still kind of new to rooting etc. So I've got an Australian nexus 6, running 5.0.1, its rooted, I used the nexus root toolkit, and it installed twrp, I want to update to 5.1, downloaded the update from aosp or whatever and tried to sideload it, I kept getting errors and fails. Both twrp and adb are updated. Now I think from what I've read, after rooting a 5.0 device you can't receive OTAs anymore. I just got the OTA notification, I downloaded it and pressed install, it restarted then booted into twrp and didn't start the update process. I've tried unrooting but it failed. My questions are: can I install the OTA through twrp? Is there a way to bypass twrp to continue the update? Can I factory reset through settings on the phone to go back to stock and then do the update that way? (I've heard its bad to factory reset like that, not sure why or if its true?) Just want 5.1 already! Any help is appreciated, and if possible dumb it down a bit because some terminology still is not known to me
Thanks in advance
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If you're unlocked, rooted and have TWRP, why not just install custom ROM? Otherwise you can download factory image that you want, unzip and flash images individually via fastboot. Just don't flash user data and you won't loose data.
Just use the toolkit to 100% flash back go stock. It will unroot and reinstall stock recovery. Just remember to always keep USB debugging on and keep that boot loader unlocked. Once your back to the out box state you should be v able to receive ota. Or just use toolkit to flash the new stock image for your device. Ends with I.
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I've never flashed files individually. I don't like any of the Roms, I prefer stock android but I like the perks of rooting. Could you give me a step by step on flashing the files individually please
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I've never flashed files individually. I don't like any of the Roms, I prefer stock android but I like the perks of rooting. Could you give me a step by step on flashing the files individually please
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Look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-flash-factory-images-nexus-6shamu-t2954008, method 2.
Awesome thanks, so if I don't flash "user data" I can keep my stuff, will that mess it up in anyway? What about the step that says erase user data, can I skip that then?
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Awesome thanks, so if I don't flash "user data" I can keep my stuff, will that mess it up in anyway? What about the step that says erase user data, can I skip that then?
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I don`t erase and flash userdata usualy, its good to erase cache and then flash cache cache.img. A data factory reset after the procedure is adviced however for preventing fc`s and such.
So in the end is should wipe anyway? Oh well I was trying to avoid that only as a last resort. It wouldn't even let me unroot through the toolkit for some reason...
I, too, would like to know this. I have looked through many forums and sites to try to find an answer.
My Nexus 6 is:
- bootloader unlocked
- TWRP recovery
- rooted
I would like to update to the latest 5.1 without wiping my device. I don't want to lose my setup and accounts.
Is there a flashable update.zip that allows the update to 5.1? (I have seen a few, but they usually have encryption disabled - which I believe will cause me to lose my data?)
Would it be easy enough to restore stock recovery and unroot, which would allow me to flash the OTA normally - then just flash TWRP and root again?
How would I go about this?
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I, too, would like to know this. I have looked through many forums and sites to try to find an answer.
My Nexus 6 is:
- bootloader unlocked
- TWRP recovery
- rooted
I would like to update to the latest 5.1 without wiping my device. I don't want to lose my setup and accounts.
Is there a flashable update.zip that allows the update to 5.1? (I have seen a few, but they usually have encryption disabled - which I believe will cause me to lose my data?)
Would it be easy enough to restore stock recovery and unroot, which would allow me to flash the OTA normally - then just flash TWRP and root again?
How would I go about this?
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Why not just download the factory image of your choice, then fastboot flash everything but user data. You will keep all your data. Many users go this route. Personally, I like a fresh start that doing a factory reset gives. I backup everything to the cloud and then restore what I need to have on my phone. I mention this because it is recommended to preform a factory reset after installing the images separately. Thus avoiding any boot loops or force closings.
Evolution_Freak said:
Why not just download the factory image of your choice, then fastboot flash everything but user data. You will keep all your data. Many users go this route. Personally, I like a fresh start that doing a factory reset gives. I backup everything to the cloud and then restore what I need to have on my phone. I mention this because it is recommended to preform a factory reset after installing the images separately. Thus avoiding any boot loops or force closings.
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So do I need to flash all the images?
Can I also leave out the recovery image - or do I flash it and re-flash TWRP after?
Does flashing the OTA (normally) factory reset the device wiping all accounts and setup?
I don't want to perform a factory reset as I use the device for business and have many email accounts, sync accounts, contact accounts and other tweaks that I don't want to have to spend a few days setting up again.
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So do I need to flash all the images?
Can I also leave out the recovery image - or do I flash it and re-flash TWRP after?
Does flashing the OTA (normally) factory reset the device wiping all accounts and setup?
I don't want to perform a factory reset as I use the device for business and have many email accounts, sync accounts, contact accounts and other tweaks that I don't want to have to spend a few days setting up again.
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I understand, everyone's situation is different. No, an OTA will preserve all your accounts and data. Your best bet in your situation may be to flash stock recovery and remove root. Then you could sideload the OTA. Also, though I don't use or really recommend the use of toolkits, the NRT may have options available for your needs as well. There is a possibility that just removing root and TWRP may still leave traces behind. Enough that the OTA may fail.
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I understand, everyone's situation is different. No, an OTA will preserve all your accounts and data. Your best bet in your situation may be to flash stock recovery and remove root. Then you could sideload the OTA. Also, though I don't use or really recommend the use of toolkits, the NRT may have options available for your needs as well. There is a possibility that just removing root and TWRP may still leave traces behind. Enough that the OTA may fail.
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Could you point me to guides for returning to stock recovery and re-locking bootloader?
I can only seem to find many, many guides on how to flash a custom recovery - not the reverse.
fubofo said:
Could you point me to guides for returning to stock recovery and re-locking bootloader?
I can only seem to find many, many guides on how to flash a custom recovery - not the reverse.
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Relocking the bootloader wipes the device, so you don't want to do that.
What is your ultimate goal? Your absolute ideal situation, once you're updated. Let's learn that and work from there.
fubofo said:
Could you point me to guides for returning to stock recovery and re-locking bootloader?
I can only seem to find many, many guides on how to flash a custom recovery - not the reverse.
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You don't have to relock your bootloader. That doesn't matter. As for recovery, I believe all you have to do is obtain the proper recovery for the build you are currently running, the fastboot flash it from bootloader.
Look here for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3063857
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Relocking the bootloader wipes the device, so you don't want to do that.
What is your ultimate goal? Your absolute ideal situation, once you're updated. Let's learn that and work from there.
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I already stated this in my first post (first page):
"...I would like to update to the latest 5.1 without wiping my device. I don't want to lose my setup and accounts...."
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I already stated this in my first post (first page):
"...I would like to update to the latest 5.1 without wiping my device. I don't want to lose my setup and accounts...."
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OK, let me ask this, what is your current software? 5.0 or 5.0.1?
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I already stated this in my first post (first page):
"...I would like to update to the latest 5.1 without wiping my device. I don't want to lose my setup and accounts...."
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No. That is not enough information. That is your IMMEDIATE goal. I need to know what is your ULTIMATE goal?
Right now you're rooted with twrp. In order to give you the best advice I need to know your ultimate goal is. Why are you rooted with twrp? Do you need this in the future? Why are you thinking about locking the bootloader
All this has an affect on what method you use.
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No. That is not enough information. That is your IMMEDIATE goal. I need to know what is your ULTIMATE goal?
Right now you're rooted with twrp. In order to give you the best advice I need to know your ultimate goal is. Why are you rooted with twrp? Do you need this in the future? Why are you thinking about locking the bootloader
All this has an affect on what method you use.
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Thank you sir for helping!
Evolution_Freak said:
You don't have to relock your bootloader. That doesn't matter. As for recovery, I believe all you have to do is obtain the proper recovery for the build you are currently running, the fastboot flash it from bootloader.
Look here for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3063857
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Thanks @Evolution_Freak I'll give a shot at flashing just the stock recovery, unrooting and trying the OTA
Hey guys,
Followed a guide (which I cannot post a link to because I'm too new to the forum) today and I get a message that says "Your device is corrupt. It cannot be trusted to work properly". After this message, it won't boot. At all. I had the latest version of Marshmallow when I attempted this. Never rooted before. New to this whole scene. Hoping for some guidance on how to fix this.
I tried wiping with the TWRP installed and rebooting, but I get the same message. I can still plug in to my Mac and use Android File Transfer.
Thanks!
guide: on androidrootz /2014/12/how-to-root-nexus-6-windowsmaclinuxubun.html
EDIT: Just needed newest supersu. Works fine now. Don't follow old guides, and make sure you have the newest software =]
You are not hard bricked, you will get out of this.
Sounds like you flashed the old root. You must use 2.60 or higher. 2.66 is current.
Flash it back to stock.
Flash twrp.
Copy over root 2.66 from Chainfire and install it with twrp.
When you exit twrp it will ask you if you want to root your phone. NO. Always answer no to that question from twrp.
The old way modifies the system. The new android does not like that.
And, just looking at your link, that guide is over a year old. Always try to look for fresh information. A lot happens to change things during a year...
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You are not hard bricked, you will get out of this.
Sounds like you flashed the old root. You must use 2.60 or higher. 2.66 is current.
Flash it back to stock.
Flash twrp.
Copy over root 2.66 from Chainfire and install it with twrp.
When you exit twrp it will ask you if you want to root your phone. NO. Always answer no to that question from twrp.
The old way modifies the system. The new android does not like that.
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Resolved the issue. Got it. Thank you!!! Just needed to install the newest root (2.66)
Hello,
I have a KFFOWI which I rooted some months ago with Superjunky tool, and it worked great. Recently I lost root following Supersu messy update. I tried today to restore root with Superjunky tool : King root rooted succesfully, then when it was time to install supersu and delete Supersu something went wrong, script maybe didn't have root access, well I don't know.
My device is now stuck at the Fire boot animation. I'm ready to restore a stock version, but how can I be sure of the one which was installed, as I don't want to restore a different version and hard brick ? Is there a way from recovery or bootloader to identify firmware version ?
Any help will be appreciated.
Displaying logs under recovery, I think I identified version : 5.1.1
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Hello,
I have a KFFOWI which I rooted some months ago with Superjunky tool, and it worked great. Recently I lost root following Supersu messy update. I tried today to restore root with Superjunky tool : King root rooted succesfully, then when it was time to install supersu and delete Supersu something went wrong, script maybe didn't have root access, well I don't know.
My device is now stuck at the Fire boot animation. I'm ready to restore a stock version, but how can I be sure of the one which was installed, as I don't want to restore a different version and hard brick ? Is there a way from recovery or bootloader to identify firmware version ?
Any help will be appreciated.
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Displaying logs under recovery, I think I identified version : 5.1.1
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5.1.1 likely references the underlying version of Android which FireOS and all custom ROMs for this device are built upon.
To be absolutely safe reload FireOS 5.3.1 which is the highest rootable build. Before doing that try a factory reset (clearing cache/data) from the recovery menu. Often does the trick.
Thanks. Installed 5.3.1.
Then several attempts to root it with Supertool/King root, around 6 or 7.
Everything works great now.
Hey everyone,
I'm over rooting. Had an issue today where a backup refused to restore and in trying to fix it, I've deleted my OS. Yes, I'm bad at this. No big deal, I have backups of all my photos and other important stuff.
I don't really want to do the rooting/flashing thing anymore and just want to get my phone back to normal/out of the box as possible so that it will receive regular OTA updates etc. I just want to simplify things.
TWRP is installed. Is it as simple as flashing the latest official update? Or do I need to relock the phone somehow too?
I was going to follow: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/guide-to-revert-oneplus-3t-to-stock-t3676210 but wanted to be sure that it would work even though I don't currently have an OS installed.
Thanks!
Southrncomfortjm said:
I'm over rooting. Had an issue today where a backup refused to restore and in trying to fix it, I've deleted my OS.
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That isn't root. That is your lack of knowledge of the functions of custom recovery, and what the results will be. Better learning and knowledge, and a little more care could have easily prevented it from happening. You wiped the selections in the "Advanced" wipe section of TWRP. And the fact it's called "Advanced" should have been a good clue to not mess with it, unless you know exactly what you are doing.
It's also an easy condition to recover from.
Southrncomfortjm said:
I don't really want to do the rooting/flashing thing anymore and just want to get my phone back to normal/out of the box as possible so that it will receive regular OTA updates etc. I just want to simplify things.
TWRP is installed. Is it as simple as flashing the latest official update? Or do I need to relock the phone somehow too?
I was going to follow: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/guide-to-revert-oneplus-3t-to-stock-t3676210 but wanted to be sure that it would work even though I don't currently have an OS installed.
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That guide is needlessly complicated. Just download the flash the "full" update zip using TWRP, from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/official-oxygenos-5-0-1-android-8-0-t3728119
Make sure you are using a version of TWRP which supports Oreo (if you were on Oreo when you wiped OS, it should be okay). And that is all there is to it. You will be fully restored to stock, and after rebooting, stock recovery will replace TWRP.
You don't need to lock the bootloader to do this, and you don't need it for future OTAs. But a locked bootloader is arguably more secure, if you really don't need custom recovery or root.
On the other hand, if you still want to give root/phone mods a shot; the way to restore, and still have root is the same (flash full update zip). But just flash Magisk or SuperSU before rebooting, and you will be rooted, and still have TWRP.