Hello everyone!
So last weekend I finally received this: LINK (EBAY)
I am totally new at Android Auto, though I have had several Andrioid Phones, as well as an Android tablet. Now I have an iPhone SE - so yes, I turned to the dark side. Not important here and now.
My question is - When I had both phone and tablet with android, I remember the many many possibilities I had with rooting etc. What do I have with my Radio? Can I root it? Can it be even better?
The only negative thing I have to say, is that the sound quality via bluetooth is quite poor - especially in the higher notes. The bass however, is still awesome on bluetooth. The sound quality is only bad on bluetooth - which tells me there is something wrong with the bluetooth hardware og the bluetooth software. Very sad to find out - I listen to bluetooth music 90% of the time. That issue let me to thinking: Is there a way to fix it? Maybe a root or something?
Also - are there some must-have-apps I should know about?
Looking forward to hear from you.
Thanks.
I have noticed the same, however it is not related to Bluetooth, the BT quality is fine, the sound quality problem begins when Android Auto is activated. Try using Spotify with the standard BT connectivity. Then test the same song with the USB cable connected and using AA. The sound quality is fully degraded when using AA compared to the BT quality. I Use Viper4Android and the drop in quality is even bigger since Viper4Android doesn't catch the sound stream.
Any idea out there?
By the way, I'd rename the subject of this thread since the sound quality problem is not related to Bluetooth but with Android Auto.
Same, don't think there's a way around it.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/android-auto/1OVZA4SUG-g
Second comment on that article, has to do with digital vs analog and our built in equalizer. You'd think digital would sound better
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Same, don't think there's a way around it.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/android-auto/1OVZA4SUG-g
Second comment on that article, has to do with digital vs analog and our built in equalizer. You'd think digital would sound better
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BT is also a digital stream and sound is excellent, even more when paired with Viper4Android. Nonetheless V4A doesn't seem to catch the digital output stream used by AA.
Maybe it's just usb? My thumb drive doesn't sound as good as my Bluetooth with the same song either.
Yea, audio is transmitted via USB, so in theory the quality should be even better since it is transmitted without the SBC compression like with BT (unless you have aptx). If your in-car has a built in equalizer i would advice to use that one
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Yea, audio is transmitted via USB, so in theory the quality should be even better since it is transmitted without the SBC compression like with BT (unless you have aptx). If your in-car has a built in equalizer i would advice to use that one
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The theory is not working in this case, most probably because we don't know the root cause of this weird and annoying issue.
Car equalizer is not working when there are missing frequencies. BT works perfectly, but when playing the same song, with the same device and app (Spotify, music player, TuneIn) the quality is severely degraded when using AA. No deep bass and no treble. Total loss of both ends of the audible spectrum while BT quality is superb (compared to the crappy AA quality)
I have tested this issue with a Chevy Malibu 2017, Chevy Impala 2017, Ford Fusion 2018, Buick regal 2017 and Hyundai Sonata 2018. Same degradation when using AA with different head units, different apps, Axon 7. I hardly believe it is a device issue, I believe it is a problem with the protocol. Are you experiencing this issue? I am using RR ROM.
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I always had my HTC Tilt 2 playing music in my car through bluetooth. Now with my new HD7 I noticed the sound quality is very bad. It sounds like its streams at a low bit rate so all the high frequencies create crackling distorted. Overall sound doesn't have any richness to it. I use the BlackBerry Remote Stereo Bluetooth Gateway: http://www.amazon.com/BlackBerry-Re...M0/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1289972227&sr=8-11. The quality of the Tilt 2 paired up with it was really good. I think they need to fix this pronto.
Yeh I have the same problem too, its exactly the same if I use 3.5mm jack aux too, just far too quiet, causes so much distortion, neither bluetooth or 3.5mm sound any better. If you put headphones in you can tell there isnt enough volume at all.
Really needs fixing, seems more of a software issues as I've seen people with various WP7 models complaining about low volume.
Right now I'm having to use my old Touch Pro for audio streaming in the car.
Mine sounds great through headphones and car stereo (BT).
In the car I prefer the sound to my iPhone 3GS through BT and line out.
And the volume is loud enough using Ultimate Ears 5vi IEMs with plenty if bass
Enable the SRS Surround
Sound quality is always in the ear of the beholder, so difficult to fully compare what people consider good or bad.
I find the internal speaker, headphones and line-out (via 3.5mm) too quiet. Quality seems ok from the 3.5mm jack though.
But I tested the BT recently and at high volume it didn't sound very good on a beefy car stereo (with sub). I was disappointed, but had no basis for comparison at the time.
I have this issue too. I'm using the Sony DRBT140Q. The audio sounds perfect when connected to my G1 and Sennheiser BTD-300. But when connected to the HD7 the sound turns kind of...fuzzy on the mids. Gonna go try out other HD7s at the T-mobile store and see if it's a problem with my handset.
I also have this issue. With wired headphones the sound is OK, but with bluetooth audio the sound is bad. I tested it with a jabra BT3030 and with a SonyEricsson MW600. The sound is good with both Headsets when they are connected to my notebook.
HTC are not known for good blutooth support, I was hoping they would get their act together with this phone.
3.5 jack is fine, but bluetooth quality is aweful! was fine on the HD2.
On BT, the bass and mids are ok, but the highs are terrible, they are really crackly/distorted. You can get away with it on dance, because its not too noticable, but in Rock music, it just sounds ****e.
Mujja said:
Enable the SRS Surround
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If you have the phoned paired via Bluetooth Sound Enhancer makes no difference to the sound whatsoever. Even if connecting to 3.5mm and using sound enhancer it sounds terrible in my car.
Think I'm just gonna have to carry on using my Touch Pro 2 until something is changed with the volume. I just think there isnt enough, you have it too loud its distorted so you turn it down and then turn the radio up but its no better because you get a lot of hiss etc.
If your listening though AUX make sure all the sound enhancements are off, they make it sound terrible. They only make an improvement through the phone speaker.
They dont affect bluetooth at all though.
So is anyone going to fix this?
I have Mozart 7 and fits the same description as previously said :
Bad audio quality when connected with Bluetooth headset (Sony Ericsson MW600)
(crackled/distorted, a low pitch noise at the background, sounds like interference from other things) - ive tried it on everywhere its the same
sounds perfect when its wire connected
This is making me really angry since i got this Bluetooth together with my mozart 7!!!
Can we notify anyone about this in particular??
I have the same problem. Bad quality when streaming via bluetooth to my car radio. With my HD2 and Windows Mobile 6.5 I had exactly the same problem for which there were registry hacks to improve this. Do you think the same registry entries still exist on Windows Phone 7?
Bluetooth audio quality FIXED!!
Ok guys here it is. I figured out how to improve the Bluetooth music streaming quality.
1. Your device must be unlock to do this. Even if your device relocks it doesn’t matter.
2. After unlocking device download and install the XAP file RegistryEditor 1.1.0.0. This is a registry Editor for WP7.
3. Once you have the RegistryEditor 1.1.0.0. on your phone do the following registry hack:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\A2 DP\Settings]
"Bit Pool"= change Value data to 51.
As I suspected the problem was in the sample rate settings. After I did the hack it sounded beautiful and at full sample rate. Some people don’t have the ear to catch the difference. I like to think I have a very good ear for this sort of thing. Being a musician and aspiring sound designer. I listen to all my music in the car through Bluetooth stereo gateway so I rely on this Bluetooth functionality 100%. Here is an example of the “Value data” number translated to sample rate.
Medium Quality
Bit Pool=35, Sample Rate=44.1 kHz = 229 kb/s
Bit Pool=33, Sample Rate=48 kHz = 237 kb/s
High Quality
Bit Pool=53, Sample Rate=44.1 kHz = 328 kb/s
Bit Pool=51, Sample Rate=48 kHz = 345 kb/s
Last Note: Even if you cannot unlock your phone anymore it won’t matter. As long as you gain access to that registry and change it. Unless you do a hard reset or Windows update you will need to repeat the process or unless Microsoft slaps their head about this issue before they release that update.
Wow that sounds like a plausible solution!!
Has anyone else tried it yet? Im still considering whether to hack my phone or not.
Try it. You wont regret it.
It works! did it last night and music was perfect in the car this morning! so happy now!
Just need a reg hack that allows me to download big files from the marketplace through my own 3G signal and not wifi now and ill be very very happy!
Also set "UseJointStereo" to 0 since one of the common joint stereo algorithm uses a lossy audio compression. BT Music sounds great with these changes!
What a difference
Thnx, sounds awesome.
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So is anyone going to fix this?
I have Mozart 7 and fits the same description as previously said :
Bad audio quality when connected with Bluetooth headset (Sony Ericsson MW600)
(crackled/distorted, a low pitch noise at the background, sounds like interference from other things) - ive tried it on everywhere its the same
sounds perfect when its wire connected
This is making me really angry since i got this Bluetooth together with my mozart 7!!!
Can we notify anyone about this in particular??
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i´ve the same headset and i noticed that srs-optimizing and dolby mobile is not working over bluetooth
also i cannot play forward
Verizon Trophy Fixed
Thanks for this fix! I finally got my Verizon Trophy fixed after
1. Trying to deploy RegistryEditor 1.1.0.0 only to get a deployment error
2. Trying to deploy RegistryEditor 1.2.0.0 only to get a deployment error
3. Editing the XML file in RegistryEditor 1.2.0.0, which successfully deployed the .xap but wouldn't actually let me edit the necessary values BitPool and UseJointStereo. I could change them in the editor, but as soon as I navigated away from the editor they would return to their defaults.
4. Attempted this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271963 only to be unable to run Connection Setup app
5. Completed this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271963&page=64 after about 10 iterations of trying to open the Connection Setup app at the exact moment described. I didn't think it would work, but it did.
So, in summary, in order to install a registry editor (1.2.0.0) AND have it edit the BitPool and UseJointStereo values on my student developer unlocked Verizon Trophy running official mango update, I had to do an interop unlock.
Took me a few days to sort through, but I'm so unbelievably happy with the result!
Hi Folks!
Recently got a bluetooth FM transmitter so i can go hands free in the car and use phones music player too
However the audio is very heavily compressed when using A2DP - no bass and the top end frequencies turn to mush - ie not good enough to use
Checked all eq settings and different FM frequencies, no difference
plugged the analogue audio cable direct from the phone to the bluetooth FM transmitter and immediately got perfect sound again
I dont see many poeple talking about this on this forum or many answers but the closest seems to be windows phones can access and modify registry settings to check and increase the bitrate
My current thinking is the bitrate (or bitpool) over bluetooth A2DP is set too low, or when the phone and FM transmitter pair the phone selects a bitrate that's too low for quality audio (but ok for calls)
My question is does anyone know how modify the bitpool settings on the Galaxy S please?
I am going to get a custom ROM and will very happy when the phone is really mine so if that's what it takes I'm up for it
Many many thanks!
DJ LIBRE
Samsung Galaxy S
2.1.1 Eclair on 3 mobile network in the UK
Nexus Drive Transmit Pro (Bluetooth FM transmitter music and hands free car kit)
I have the Galaxy S on 3 UK since August. I use the bluetooth to transmit sound to my Samsung surround sound system (as I don't own a stereo). I don't notice significant quality issues doing this. Are you sure both your devices are supporting A2DP. Not all A2DP devices talking nicely with each other, so you may be failing back to the normal Bluetooth frequencies which are more focus of the vocal range. I'm looking a car stereo's right now that support A2DP so I can stream my audio from my phone straight to my stereo, my phone is becoming the centre of my entertainment!!
I'm running Doc's ROM on my phone, can't recommend moving to his Froyo ROM's and an enhanced kernel enough, my phone is working so much better with his ROM, but there are lots out there to choose from.
I am using A2DP in my car too and I find the sound quality being very good.
The thing is, the default Android audio player (Music Player) is pretty poor and often it lags for me.
Since I moved to MiuiMusic (Search here) all those lags are gone and it works perfectly and smoothly in my car.
Now, as pointed already to you, all BT devices do not communicate flawlessly between each other sometimes...
works great for me, streaming from the SGS to the car CZ 509 deck
i don't even carry CDs in my car anymore
even the lovely sub base sound comes through clearly.
nothing better like a Sonic Massage meanwhile you are driving
I wanted to create a new thread on this, but then I've seen this one. Is there no one with a solution except flashing cyanogen?
It could be a setting on your bluetooth receiver.
For example, I've got a pair of Sony DR-BT21G bt stereo headphones. When you hold a special button combination, it switches it from "high quality" to "any quality", and will just select whatever bitrate it thinks is best, usually, something that sounds about half as good.
Try looking in your manual for troubleshooting and see if there are any settings that you can change on the receiver itself?
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It could be a setting on your bluetooth receiver.
For example, I've got a pair of Sony DR-BT21G bt stereo headphones. When you hold a special button combination, it switches it from "high quality" to "any quality", and will just select whatever bitrate it thinks is best, usually, something that sounds about half as good.
Try looking in your manual for troubleshooting and see if there are any settings that you can change on the receiver itself?
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Hmm, i using Sony MW600 BT headphones. I've checked the manual, but there's nothing about quality :/
But i dont think that's the problem anyway, as i tried Cyanogenmod and it got perfect quality then. But otherwise cyanogen is quite useless for me on my Galaxy S, its just too buggy. There must be someone who can change the bitpool quality on the stock gingerbread to the highest possible...
Exact same issue for me (as described by DJ LIBRE), I have a Belkin Wireless Bluetooth Music Receiver and the sound quality is horid... it's got nothing on AirPlay which I think is still kind of average quality!
I also wonder if there is a highbitrate setting that can be adjusted?
Running CyanogenMod Nightly #130 on SGS.
After getting used to listening to 24/96 FLAC's with the Voodoo Sound mod enabled with a custom built headphone amp and semi decent can's all I can say is BT Audio is a waste of time!
Has anyone noticed whether the music player was set to 5.1 surround mode? Had a similar issue where turning off the 5.1 fixed the sound streaming...
Hello all.
I'm having problems with Bluetooth on my One. The device that I'm trying to use with it is called a Siemens MiniTek. (It's actually a hearing-aid accessory. You clip to the front of your shirt - it looks a bit like an MP3 player - and it plus my hearing aids together then function like a Bluetooth headset. So, when making a call, the sound is sent wirelessly to the hearing aids, and the device itself has a microphone on it.)
Making a call with it works okay; but if I try to use it to get audio out of my One in other conditions (playing a game, say, or watching downloaded video) then the video and audio are always badly out of synch - the sound lags at least one second behind the picture.
I'm using the stock HTC ROM, the latest one available in the UK (2.24.401.8).
Anyone have any thoughts as to why this might be happening and what I can do about it?
Mby there is too much data to deliver via bluetooth (high quality audi/video sound) and the hearing aid device is not meant to recive such a load.
When calling to some1, the sound quality is only like 24kbps or something.
Just a thought
Rendoqoz said:
Mby there is too much data to deliver via bluetooth (high quality audi/video sound) and the hearing aid device is not meant to recive such a load.
When calling to some1, the sound quality is only like 24kbps or something.
Just a thought
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That might result in there either being no sound at all or in the sound quality being very poor, but I don't see that it would result in reasonable-quality sound running 1 second behind the picture...?
The device itself is designed to handle fairly high quality sound: as well as receiving Bluetooth signals it can take analogue audio input via a 2.5mm stereo jack socket, and it also has a separate "base station" transmitter which you can plug into (say) the headphone socket of your TV: the transmitter then sends a signal wirelessly to the MiniTek (using a proprietary version of Bluetooth) and the MiniTek relays it to the hearing aids. Using either the direct-line input or the wireless transmitter works quite nicely, and there's no perceptible lag problem there.
I should have said, I've been onto Siemens tech support about it, and they're adamant that it shouldn't be doing this, and they don't know why it is. So I'm looking for a problem at the phone end.
Shasarak said:
I should have said, I've been onto Siemens tech support about it, and they're adamant that it shouldn't be doing this, and they don't know why it is. So I'm looking for a problem at the phone end.
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i've experienced the same issues on various BT-Receivers and Smartphones. Seems to be a general issue. So far, this 1 second lag was present on all combinations of:
Phones: Samsung Galaxy S2 / iPhone 4 / HTC One
Receivers: Creative D100 / Creative D200 / Belkin BT Adapter
As i found out so far, this problem occours when the receiver can't handle the apt-x codec and audio has to be resampled to the older SBC codec. Found one thread kinda dealing with this topic, but haven't tried it out for myself at the moment. I'll do some testing later when i'm at home.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256407
Hey all, have the razer 2 and have noticed the bluetooth audio quality is garbage. Ive tried different cars, different headphone etc and they all sound worse than AM radio. I though android oreo had support for AptX -HD, LDAC etc,,,,,but it seems its not active on the razer 2 ven if you open developer options...any recs???? I know i can use the dongle but that defeats the purpose of wireless headphones
thx!
I generally don't use bluetooth, as bluetooth compresses audio, giving you less quality. I had zero issues using the dongle with some decent Sennheiser earbuds, they sounded really good, but I haven't used my headphones yet. My wife has some cheap-ish (around $30) Anker brand bluetooth earbuds, and I tried them on the Razer 2 - they sounded as good as they do on other devices, I didn't notice anything distorted or out of place. You may try checking your Atmos settings, or even turn it off when using bluetooth and see if that helps.
Thx for the info I agree,I dont use Bluetooth except in the car for streaming as I'm not a big fan of Android auto, and you are right as it is compressed . But my phones sound quality over Bluetooth is very muffled and obvious. I've tinkered with the Atmos effects and it had no effect....wondering if I got a bad unit. The fact that your wife's earbuds sound the same as other phones leads me to think I gotta bad unit because it's virtually unlistenable through Bluetooth"(
It's gotta be your phone. My hammerhead Bluetooth sounded great with my Razer phone 1. But they sound amazing with my Razer phone 2. And range is greatly improved.
The Razer Phone 2 will use AAC, which is not too bad at all. I wish I could get it working with LDAC, though, for better sound with my Sony NW-ZX300 or my Audeze Mobius.
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Hey all, have the razer 2 and have noticed the bluetooth audio quality is garbage. Ive tried different cars, different headphone etc and they all sound worse than AM radio. I though android oreo had support for AptX -HD, LDAC etc,,,,,but it seems its not active on the razer 2 ven if you open developer options...any recs???? I know i can use the dongle but that defeats the purpose of wireless headphones
thx!
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I have a razer 2. There is also aptX HD: https://www.bluetoothcheck.com/d/razer-phone-2
Quite easy to get aptX HD: https://www.headphonezone.in/blogs/...te-aptx-hd-on-your-smartphone-in-5-easy-steps
No rooting.
Not having any BT quality issues here
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I have a razer 2. There is also aptX HD: https://www.bluetoothcheck.com/d/razer-phone-2
Quite easy to get aptX HD: https://www.headphonezone.in/blogs/...te-aptx-hd-on-your-smartphone-in-5-easy-steps
No rooting.
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That is totally inaccurate. the RP2 doesn't have aptx or aptx-HD support, even if you go into developer settings and try to force it to use aptx. I currently haven't been able to get aptx working properly, even with magisk modules.
That's correct. It's been disabled by Razer, and turning it on in Dev options does not work. You have to use the LDAC magisk module to get it to work...
As it happens, I have a HiBy WT so I can use UAT so I have a solution. Not everyone has this device tho.
Hi folks. Just moved to a different carrier, we were previous Google Pixel owners, but our new carrier doesn't support them so we had to move to S10s.
The big complaint here is the horrible sound quality coming from the phones to all of our Bluetooth devices. Cars, speakers, living room sound bar. Static-y noises and what sounds like just a far lower quality across all devices than what comes from our Pixels which we still have. Our kids Iphones have no issues playing clean and clear either.
Really frustrating issue, we both use our music service daily and this is darn near a deal breaker.
Any ideas or solutions out there? I've searched high and low to no avail. Thanks in advance!
Anyone? No one else has this issue?
is your phone rooted? Is this a snapdragon or exynos version? If its exynos version, rooted, installed aptx bluetooth codec and viper4android for better audio
Exynos, fully stock here.
No problem with bluetooth audio.
US Snapdragon phone. Completely box stock. Bluetooth even connects at an audibly lower volume. It sounds almost like it's connecting through one of those old FM Bluetooth transmitters. It's terrible. I've fiddled with every solution I can find online for others suffering the same issue, nothing works.
Actually, I didn't want to root my S10. However, the sound quality via bluetooth is so bad that you cant avoid Viper4Andriod.
That was also the case with the S8. At the point Samsung has huge deficits.
Without root / V4A you just have lousy sound quality.
I'd really love to find a workaround that doesn't involve rooting, but if that's all there is.....
I had the same problem with snapdragon unlocked variant. The factory audio quality over Bluetooth was terribly bad. It was tinny.
Interestingly when i used "seperate app sound" feature it has improved. But not as good as exynos variant when i compared.
Steps to follow.
Advanced Audio setting -> seperate app sound -> Turn ON ( select the app and bluetooth device )
Let me know if it works.
Never did find an answer to this question. Found that when it's plugged into a 3.5mm port it's even more noticeable. It's got to be a software issue. The static starts as soon as any music begins, and ends on any song switch or pause. You can actually hear the static 'kick in' right before the sounds start to play. It's horrible. Doesn't do it on my backup phone, or either of my kids' iPhones. Just these two S10s.
Hey man, did you ever find a fix? all of a sudden I started having this issue. If I turn "Call audio" OFF it is fixed and the quality is great again, but with Call Audio on, its crappy, on my car, or headset, same behaviour.
The phone seem to be using the Call Audio profile despite no active call.
Did some more testing, if I hit on "Disconnect" on my car system, I get the "call disconnect" sound and after that the audio is great. The issue seem to be the phone thinking its on a phone call and using call audio profile to stream the audio.