Tempered glass + LOCA? - Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Accessories

Getting tired of these crappy screen protectors. The glass ones only have some OCA tape on the corners which is problematic when water touches it. It also leaves air between glass and screen meaning touch sensitivity is impaired. I have one of these screen protectors and I have removed the tape. Is there a problem using LOCA to bond the screen protector to the screen? This is supposed to be a semi permanent installation. Right now the only problem I see is the adhesive pooling around the home button.

Isn't LOCA permanent though?

I would like to know what silicone glue the stock screen uses.

autonomousperson said:
Getting tired of these crappy screen protectors. The glass ones only have some OCA tape on the corners which is problematic when water touches it. It also leaves air between glass and screen meaning touch sensitivity is impaired. I have one of these screen protectors and I have removed the tape. Is there a problem using LOCA to bond the screen protector to the screen? This is supposed to be a semi permanent installation. Right now the only problem I see is the adhesive pooling around the home button.
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Not a good idea. I just use plastic. Yes it feels like crap but doesn't suffer from touch issues.
Chris_c81 said:
Isn't LOCA permanent though?
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For the most part yes.
markstibbyspot said:
I would like to know what silicone glue the stock screen uses.
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There is no glue between the LCD and Glass on the S7 or S7e.

Chris_c81 said:
Isn't LOCA permanent though?
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Yeah LOCA glue is permanent but can be removed with fairly easily with solvents.
@Illogi.xbone You have any suggestions on good plastic screen protectors? I just want a buffer in case I drop the device glass first. With plastic, the screen would still shatter. Plastic screen protectors are also less of a fingerprint magnet. I always carry sharp objects and the plastic protectors keep getting cut up.

autonomousperson said:
Yeah LOCA glue is permanent but can be removed with fairly easily with solvents.
@Illogi.xbone You have any suggestions on good plastic screen protectors? I just want a buffer in case I drop the device glass first. With plastic, the screen would still shatter. Plastic screen protectors are also less of a fingerprint magnet. I always carry sharp objects and the plastic protectors keep getting cut up.
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I tend to keep my phone in a separate pocket to anything else. I don't see loca working well but you can always give it a go. Plastic will always get cut and yes, the screen can/will shatter (same with tempered glass) but I prefer the coverage that they provide and resistance to fingerprint smudges. I have used Skinomi in the past, don't like their matte ones though.

Geez, if it has come to this point just use the screen as it was intended.

autonomousperson said:
Yeah LOCA glue is permanent but can be removed with fairly easily with solvents
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Which would probably damage your screen.

Still suspicious about the LOCA

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Recommended screen protectors, and also - tempered glass?

Hi everyone,
I'm planning on purchasing the Nexus 5X in a few days, just need to find the right accessories for it (cables, cases, screen protectors).
I was wondering if anyone can recommend a screen protector that has a cutout for the proximity sensor.
Also, I seriously only found out today there is such a thing as tempered glass. After researching a bit, I learned of it's pros (actually protects your screen if the phone falls) and it's cons (can crack easily for no reason ,poses somewhat of a health risk if breaks).
Pros: http://temperedglassscreenprotector.org/
Cons: http://www.clear-coat.com/blog/why-we-dont-sell-tempered-glass-screen-protectors/
Strangely, all the screen protectors I find on Amazon are tempered glass.
So, which one should I buy (tempered or plastic), and can you recommend a specific screen protector?
I wouldn't say they crack easily, but that'll depend on a bunch of variables. All I can say is it looks good and feels much nicer than the PET/non tempered glass screen protectors. Spigen is a good brand to go with.
Read the thread below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3214188
I recommend the skinomi screen protector, it's not glass. It's the kind that feels like rubber and applied via water. I love these.
How you apply it with water? They can get to te mic's, no? You have safe way to do that?
Hi, Im very pleased with Nexus 5X Screen Protector, SpigenĀ® [Crystal] Full HD, I used to have it on my Nexus 5 and I was so satisfied that I bought it again for my N5x. Feels like glass, perfecly cutted you have 3x screen protector included, dust removal and positionning tool to hlelp perfect use. At least two times saved my screen on my old nexus 5. And almost nobody noticed that Im using a screen protector....
I've played around with a few screen protectors over the years, including some tempered glass ones. I can show you some reviews I've written, if you're interested.
Most of the cheap glass options are /not/ multicoated. What that means is, while they might be very difficult to scratch, they will cause some reflections, way more than the bare screen. Also, one of the coatings applied in modern multicoating is an oleophobic coating. That means a layer which helps the glass reject oils, including the skin oils on your fingertips. So applying a glass screen protector usually means you'll have to clean your screen way more often, and also that it will be considerably more difficult to actually clean the screen.
If you're dead-set on a screen protector, I highly recommend you find yourself a multicoated option. These will be no less than $20 even on sale. They can be $30+ normally.
Personally, I trust Corning Gorilla Glass 3 as sufficient in this generation. You might get a scratch or two over a few year span, but, virtually everything your phone will meet won't be hard enough to damage the glass.
Pandages said:
I've played around with a few screen protectors over the years, including some tempered glass ones. I can show you some reviews I've written, if you're interested.
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I would love to.
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Most of the cheap glass options are /not/ multicoated. What that means is, while they might be very difficult to scratch, they will cause some reflections, way more than the bare screen. Also, one of the coatings applied in modern multicoating is an oleophobic coating. That means a layer which helps the glass reject oils, including the skin oils on your fingertips. So applying a glass screen protector usually means you'll have to clean your screen way more often, and also that it will be considerably more difficult to actually clean the screen.
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I don't really understand, you're talking about tempered glass screen protectors?
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If you're dead-set on a screen protector, I highly recommend you find yourself a multicoated option. These will be no less than $20 even on sale. They can be $30+ normally.
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Can you give me some examples? Are the products recommended to me here (like the Spigen) multicoated?
elyashiv1994 said:
How you apply it with water? They can get to te mic's, no? You have safe way to do that?
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You apply a thin layer them squeeze out the excess. It's incredibly easy to retry if you set it wrong the first time. You can push the water away from the mic and speaker and use a cloth to dab up any excess water.
buru898 said:
You apply a thin layer them squeeze out the excess. It's incredibly easy to retry if you set it wrong the first time. You can push the water away from the mic and speaker and use a cloth to dab up any excess water.
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There is something that I can put in the mic to seal it? I don't want to take risk(especially when you have holes in top and bottom)
glass screen protector http://dx-box.com/nillkin-amazing-h-pro-anti-explosion-tempered-glass-screen-protector.html
I've been using glass screen protectors since May 2014. I swear by them. They don't crack easily like Clear Coat claims. I've only had to replace them twice. Once because an edge got pulled up months later so there was a air gap on one side. The second time, it actually did crack but that was after falls with a TPU case on. As many others have stated, with tempered glass screen protectors, that will crack before the actual glass of the screen does. And good ones don't shatter into little pieces like Clear Coat says. On the two replacements, I broke them fully and the pieces stay together. Also I really like the glass feel. Not sure how non-glass screen protectors feel though. Back when invisibleSHIELD was popular, that tacky feel wasn't nice.
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Jill McAuliffe said:
glass screen protector http://dx-box.com/nillkin-amazing-h-pro-anti-explosion-tempered-glass-screen-protector.html
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Thanks. Does it cover the proximity sensor?
Even though the image shows it is, some companies say that despite the image, their product does not cover the sensor.
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They don't crack easily like Clear Coat claims. ... And good ones don't shatter into little pieces like Clear Coat says.
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Yeah it was obvious Clear Coat exaggerated on purpose... Still, I wanted to check with people here what they think.
EeZeEpEe said:
As many others have stated, with tempered glass screen protectors, that will crack before the actual glass of the screen does.
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You mean, they will break before the screen glass when the phone falls?
A question for everyone... Is there a problem, with tempered glass of course, with seeing the screen outdoors when it's sunny, even in full brightness?
TheeWolf said:
Yeah it was obvious Clear Coat exaggerated on purpose... Still, I wanted to check with people here what they think.
You mean, they will break before the screen glass when the phone falls?
A question for everyone... Is there a problem, with tempered glass of course, with seeing the screen outdoors when it's sunny, even in full brightness?
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Exactly. I think of it similar to a crumple zone in a car. It will absorb some of the force before the phone's glass does. Now of course, with a great amount of force like dropping it from 10 feet or throwing it, I'm sure both the screen protector and the phone's glass would break. Regular accidental drops should work out the way I described.
As for outdoor visibility, there's no noticeable decrease in brightness or increase in glare. All of the manufactures usually advertise something like 99.9% transparency.
Here's an interesting tempered glass screen protector review. Cued up exactly on the drop test to rocks and removal:
https://youtu.be/UnvC6EERMyI?t=2m21s
Keep in mind that plastic protects better than glass and plastic does not need to be replaced where as most drops will break a glass protector. It is made from a thin easily breakable material after all.
The reason to pay roughly 10x as much for glass is because it feels much nicer on your finger. Plastic can also cause rainbow like reflections and can be a bit harder to apply than one solid piece.
However glass costs a lot more upfront and in the long run to replace. A plastic protector is about $1 and if applied properly won't ever need to be replaced.
bblzd said:
Keep in mind that plastic protects better than glass and plastic does not need to be replaced where as most drops will break a glass protector. It is made from a thin easily breakable material after all.
The reason to pay roughly 10x as much for glass is because it feels much nicer on your finger. Plastic can also cause rainbow like reflections and can be a bit harder to apply than one solid piece.
However glass costs a lot more upfront and in the long run to replace. A plastic protector is about $1 and if applied properly won't ever need to be replaced.
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Yes plastic ones don't break break or need to be replaced but I don't think they provide the same impact protection in absorbing drops. You'll probably have a screen broken under the intact plastic screen protector.
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Yes plastic ones don't break break or need to be replaced but I don't think they provide the same impact protection in absorbing drops. You'll probably have a screen broken under the intact plastic screen protector.
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I have no background on the subject but just thinking about it logically, I don't think glass can be as protective as plastic.
For instance RhinoShield only offers plastic screen protectors. Their test videos show how easily GG would break from certain impacts and how much plastic protects it. Even the best tempered glass can only hope to be as strong as GG.
My basic understanding of the situation is glass protectors work because it breaks and saves the screen underneath, where as plastic works by actually strengthening the glass itself.
However for each time the glass protector breaks and needs to be replaced, the plastic would keep on trucking.
I think the misunderstanding arises when a user drops their phone with a glass protector and it breaks thus "saving" their screen. But what if they had plastic? Would the screen of broken then? What if they had no protector? We can't say for sure what the results would have been. However to the user that is a clear indication of the glass protector working, where as I would say that's only a clear indication of the glass protector breaking easily.
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However to the user that is a clear indication of the glass protector working, where as I would say that's only a clear indication of the glass protector breaking easily.
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Right. That's how I see it as a user. Also, the clarity, feel, and scratch resistance can't be matched by plastic.
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I've actually dropped my 5x naked just once so far and got lucky without any cracks, but I do believe if I had a glass SP it would've broken. In the end I think it's luck and a good case that will protect from a bad drop as the screen protector is mainly for scratch protection. I've kept my glass SP as a backup in case the factory oleophobic coating stops working as effectively.
Here.
IQ Shield LiQuidSkin - Huawei Nexus 6P Screen Protector (2015) & Warranty Replacements - HD Ultra Clear Film - Protective Guard - Extremely Smooth / Self-Healing / Bubble-Free Shield
They also have glass. Check em both.
http://www.amazon.com/B016CKR3QA/dp...055&sr=8-2&keywords=nexus+6p+screen+protector

Glass or plastic screen protector? Or both?

I have an S6 edge white version and I dont know what screen pprotector should I buy the cheap 0.99$ or this http://m.ebay.com/itm/Premium-TPU-A...S6-Edge-2Front-1Back-/321739053198?nav=SEARCH
I would love to have the plastic and then the glass protector over it? :cyclops:
I NEED BEST PROTECTION AND IF I CRACK MY PPHONE I WILL GO HANG MYSELF AFTER I CRY AND CUT MY "BLOODLINES" SO ITS VERY IMPORTANT
xperiaking247 said:
I have an S6 edge white version and I dont know what screen pprotector should I buy the cheap 0.99$ or this http://m.ebay.com/itm/Premium-TPU-A...S6-Edge-2Front-1Back-/321739053198?nav=SEARCH
I would love to have the plastic and then the glass protector over it? :cyclops:
I NEED BEST PROTECTION AND IF I CRACK MY PPHONE I WILL GO HANG MYSELF AFTER I CRY AND CUT MY "BLOODLINES" SO ITS VERY IMPORTANT
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Glass protectors on S6E is not fit very well and reduce responsiveness. I recommend to find a plastic protector with oleophobic coating.
Yeah thanks but what do you think about this on the link?? Can i put 2 plastic screen protectors will the digitizer work, touch responsivness? And if you know some screen protetor brands i dont want the flat only part i want to cover the edges
One more question
How does the plastic one protect phone? Just from scratches or and cracks?
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How does the plastic one protect phone? Just from scratches or and cracks?
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Plastic films protect the screen from minor scratches. You should aware genuine Samsung clear view covers scratching the phone which they are supposed to protect. I don't think tempered glass can protect dropped phone. To me, the advantage of tempered glass is its feeling being the same with phone screen because they are all glass, so easy to swipe. I bought this link and happy with it (located in Australia). I purchased several temper glasses and plastic films but each has its limit. The one I recommend to you is perfectly fit, responsive and fluid. However, its oleophobic layer doesn't work very well.
2e6 said:
Plastic films protect the screen from minor scratches. You should aware genuine Samsung clear view covers scratching the phone which they are supposed to protect. I don't think tempered glass can protect dropped phone. To me, the advantage of tempered glass is its feeling being the same with phone screen because they are all glass, so easy to swipe. I bought this link and happy with it (located in Australia). I purchased several temper glasses and plastic films but each has its limit. The one I recommend to you is perfectly fit, responsive and fluid. However, its oleophobic layer doesn't work very well.
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Hi 2e6 thanks for the info but what do you think about this one http://m.ebay.com/itm/Premium-TPU-A...S6-Edge-2Front-1Back-/321739053198?nav=SEARCH
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Hi 2e6 thanks for the info but what do you think about this one http://m.ebay.com/itm/Premium-TPU-A...S6-Edge-2Front-1Back-/321739053198?nav=SEARCH
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I'm not sure about that, it may not be fluid/smooth when you swipe.

What type of adhesives are use on PET, TPU, and Glass screen protectors?

I'm wondering what type of adhesives are used to adhere screen protectors to the cell phone display. Maybe we can use some of strong, yet removable adhesives to help stick the screen protectors to the curved edges of the Galaxy S7 Edge. Then we can use whatever case we want and not worry about peeling edges.
Anyway, my question is about the types of adhesives used for this application.
Thanks!
dlancep said:
I'm wondering what type of adhesives are used to adhere screen protectors to the cell phone display. Maybe we can use some of strong, yet removable adhesives to help stick the screen protectors to the curved edges of the Galaxy S7 Edge. Then we can use whatever case we want and not worry about peeling edges.
Anyway, my question is about the types of adhesives used for this application.
Thanks!
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There are a few used like silicone and double sided tape. Then you have wet and dry installed screen protectors which I'm not sure what adheres them. You don't want something too strong that would stick because they do get worn and need to be removed
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There are a few used like silicone and double sided tape. Then you have wet and dry installed screen protectors which I'm not sure what adheres them. You don't want something too strong that would stick because they do get worn and need to be removed
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So could I use some regular clear silicone, like from Home Depot, to stick down the edges of a screen protector on the curved sides of the S7 Edge? How optically clear would that be? Would it be easy to remove later?
dlancep said:
So could I use some regular clear silicone, like from Home Depot, to stick down the edges of a screen protector on the curved sides of the S7 Edge? How optically clear would that be? Would it be easy to remove later?
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I wouldn't but it's your phone. Don't know about regular silicone but what kind of screen protector are you trying to stick down that won't stay?! If your having trouble with screen protectors and cases, you can get a case friendly protector. Or if your looking for glass check out the thread about them. I'm running amazingthing and commuter case and it fits fine with no liftingood at all. I like cases but don't change them out often enough. I'd really just prefer a spring holster as that's what I used with my previous non samsung phones..
i have try the tpu protector, current techmology is very difficult to install on phone
The Edge screen with how most of the cases work today has caused me issues with almost every one I have tried. It always ends up getting peeled up at the top and the bottom and often the corners as well. I am considering trying to trim my skinomi screen protector to make it not get in the way of the case.
Why can't there be a tacky optically clear adhesive that we can use on the edges of screen protectors to make them stay down? The glass screen protectors have some sort of silicone adhesive on the edges, why not have that on PET or TPU protectors as well?

Tempered Glass with LOCA

With no one really having a great solution to the curved tempered glass, because the only adhesive is on the edges and not on the entire glass. Has anyone ever tried to use Liquid optically clear adhesive (LOCA) on the part of the tempered glass that sits on actual screen, because in theory wouldn't that keep the tempered glass on a lot better and prevent those edges that lift? I dont have any LOCA and havent been able to try this out. Also does anyone know if LOCA would mess up gorilla glass?
In the GLOBAL forum, someone has with success.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-7/accessories/adhesive-tempered-glass-screen-protector-t3472984
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In the GLOBAL forum, someone has with success.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-7/accessories/adhesive-tempered-glass-screen-protector-t3472984
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I thought I had looked in the global forums, But thanks for the link, They don't describe the procedure though, has anyone on this forum tried it and had any results?
I didnt try but i did replace few broken screens. What i would do is first dry fit screen protector. If ok use masking tape to cover everything except screen. Apply loca glue and install screen protector. Squize out all air bubles and wipe out all extra glue before you apply uv light. Since screen is curved it could be a little messy to perform it and this is why i would mask whole phone
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Remove screen protector?

Anyone removed the screen protector?
I think someone told me that it's not recommended.
But why's that?
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I did, because I wanted to try another screen protector. Tried two, neither of them fitted well, so I removed them. The 'naked' screen is fine, but it has no oleophobic coating, so it gets smudgy quite fast. I decided to add a 'nanofluid' liquid protector, which works reasonably well for me. I dropped my P10 a few times from 1 m or so, without damage.
M1chiel said:
I did, because I wanted to try another screen protector. Tried two, neither of them fitted well, so I removed them. The 'naked' screen is fine, but it has no oleophobic coating, so it gets smudgy quite fast. I decided to add a 'nanofluid' liquid protector, which works reasonably well for me. I dropped my P10 a few times from 1 m or so, without damage.
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Could you tell me what brand it is?
I want to try it
FiKsTyLeR said:
Could you tell me what brand it is?
I want to try it
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It is called EDAL nano liquid technology curved edge touch screen protector
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32805...ch-Screen-Protector-for-iPhones-for-Universal
M1chiel said:
It is called EDAL nano liquid technology curved edge touch screen protector
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32805...ch-Screen-Protector-for-iPhones-for-Universal
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Thank you...:good:
I removed the protector 5 days after I got the phone. The main reason was the ugly border of unprotected screen. After using a full covering glass screen protector for one year, I removed it.
I have two little scratches on the right edge of the display glass. This was unprotected with the stock protector and I don't know if this happened with this protector or without any protector.
I'm using the original flip case btw.
The fluid protectors are crap, they can just increase the hardness of the screen. Huawei used Gorilla glass 5 which is very hard. It should not break instantly when the phone falls on the floor.
Metal and ceramic won't have a chance to scratch it, because the glass has more hardness than metal or ceramic.
But you'll get scratches by tiny dust particles even with gorilla glass 5, because dust can contain some small quartzite and other very hard particles. This particles have more hardness than the glass and can damage it. The fluid protector is so thin that the scratches by dust particles will scratch the display glass, too. So you will not see any differences when using the protector - only if it works oleophobic.
M1chiel said:
It is called EDAL nano liquid technology curved edge touch screen protector
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32805...ch-Screen-Protector-for-iPhones-for-Universal
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How long does the liquid lasts?
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Difficult to say. I estimate a couple of months.
Took mine off screen fine without it on.

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