Any method that I can switch from fingerprint to pattern/pin to prevent people using my fingerprint to unlock my phone when I am sleeping and switch it back from pattern/pin to fingerprint after I wake up?
wongcheehong said:
Any method that I can switch from fingerprint to pattern/pin to prevent people using my fingerprint to unlock my phone when I am sleeping and switch it back from pattern/pin to fingerprint after I wake up?
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Hi,
Why? People has same fingerprint as yours?
Fingerprint method is surely more difficult than pattern or pin imo...
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satanas17 said:
Hi,
Why? People has same fingerprint as yours?
Fingerprint method is surely more difficult than pattern or pin imo...
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Well, I think he meant that someone could use HIS finger to unlock the phone when he is sleeping.
wongcheehong said:
Any method that I can switch from fingerprint to pattern/pin to prevent people using my fingerprint to unlock my phone when I am sleeping and switch it back from pattern/pin to fingerprint after I wake up?
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No, sorry.
Using fingerprint sensor is NOT a secure way protect your phone, only a really convenient one. Use a strong pin if you are concerned about your security.
If you still want to use a fingerprint, I recommend you to use only one finger. Chances are, attacker will run out of attemps and lock your device before he finds the right finger. But even this approach can't be considered as safe.
Eremitus said:
Well, I think he meant that someone could use HIS finger to unlock the phone when he is sleeping.
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Hope so... Even if I can't imagine something like that...
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satanas17 said:
Hope so... Even if I can't imagine something like that...
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Actually it is a very common thing in a households. Also more sophisticated attackers can collect your fingerprints and use them to unlock your phone.
Michalko5896 said:
Actually it is a very common thing in a households. Also more sophisticated attackers can collect your fingerprints and use them to unlock your phone.
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Don't think that I'm not concerned by security because it's just the opposite but I'm not estimate myself like being attacked or under siege, if you know what I mean...
That's a exceptional situation, if you are in situations like that, no?
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I think I have a sort of janky solution. You can install and configure a macro on Macrodroid.
Set the trigger to be a time (I set mine to be 12:30 am), and set two actions: first Screen On, then Screen Off.
On my phone this doesn't bring the screen on, but when I turn it on the next time it requires my PIN.
You can make it more complicated/fancy by setting a while loop to wait for 15 or 30 minutes if your screen is on at 12:30 am (ie, you're awake and using your phone), and adding a notification that your PIN is now required because it's late now or something. I also made a clone of this macro and set the notification to invoke the cloned macro (and vice versa). That way if my phone locks, and I manually unlock it with a PIN, but I haven't gone to bed yet, I just make the same locking event occur in 30 minutes.
Or you can use an NFC tag to activate this macro, if you have one of those. That can also be used to set other events on your phone when you go to bed, like configuring Do Not Disturb.
An even simpler, non-automated option(if you use Nova Launcher) is to set up a widget or gesture that engages the Nova Screen Off action(as long as you haven't set the Screen Off method in Nova to use no lock, which requires root). If you use this you'll have to remember to
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Am i the only one having problems with the Fingerprint scanner not working? i mean it works far as detecting my fingerprint but it only ask for my fingerprint once to unlock the device not multiple times after i lock my device
Not multiple times? Not sure I understand?
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YoungAceAtlanta said:
Am i the only one having problems with the Fingerprint scanner not working? i mean it works far as detecting my fingerprint but it only ask for my fingerprint once to unlock the device not multiple times after i lock my device
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Do you mean that once you unlock your device using the fingerprint, and then lock your device, it doesn't ask for the fingerprint again? If so, that's because you need to change the "secured lock time". It's under Settings > Lock screen > Secured Lock Time. Set the timer lower or have it instantly lock whenever the display turns off.
karmuh said:
Do you mean that once you unlock your device using the fingerprint, and then lock your device, it doesn't ask for the fingerprint again? If so, that's because you need to change the "secured lock time". It's under Settings > Lock screen > Secured Lock Time. Set the timer lower or have it instantly lock whenever the display turns off.
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This is what I had to do. It is unfortunate the fingerprint reader only lets you register 3 fingers.
Borii said:
Not multiple times? Not sure I understand?
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Sorry i meant when i lock my device after unlocking it with my fingerprint the device does not require my print again.
karmuh said:
Do you mean that once you unlock your device using the fingerprint, and then lock your device, it doesn't ask for the fingerprint again? If so, that's because you need to change the "secured lock time". It's under Settings > Lock screen > Secured Lock Time. Set the timer lower or have it instantly lock whenever the display turns off.
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Thanks that fixed it. Didn't see that option
It's been my experience so far that the default setting out of the box allows you to unlock the phone for a few minutes without requiring a fingerprint just in case you locked your phone & forgot to one last thing.
Of course, I can see the benefit of setting the time-out for this feature if one has a very suspicious mate or is doing things to warrant a mate to be suspicious.
I'm surprised, the reviews made it seems like fingerprint wasn't reliable but it's great. Even had my girlfriend try it. No GS5 for her.
edditnyc said:
I'm surprised, the reviews made it seems like fingerprint wasn't reliable but it's great. Even had my girlfriend try it. No GS5 for her.
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If you watch some of the video reviews, not all...but some, it looks like they were trying to make it malfunction on purpose to make it look bad.
I still get a bad read every once in awhile, but I'm at probably a 99% success rate. I'm *very* pleased.
Just picked up the note 5 a couple days ago. the fingerprint scanner works great, but I have the fingerprint option to unlock the phone selected and still most of the time all it wants me to do is swipe to unlock, occasionally asking to use the fingerprint. Is this normal? I'm under the assumption that it should require a fingerprint everytime you unlock.
It always asks for fingerprint for me, unless I'm doing the quick camera. It will say swipe home key, its asking you to clean off the button with your finger
I believe the combination of "screen timeout" and "lock timeout" settings will take care of this. However, I used to be able to just use fingerprint to unlock, and now (after last update maybe) I have to sometimes use swipe AND fingerprint which is annoying, and I can't figure out the combination of settings to adjust this.
Delacombo said:
I believe the combination of "screen timeout" and "lock timeout" settings will take care of this. However, I used to be able to just use fingerprint to unlock, and now (after last update maybe) I have to sometimes use swipe AND fingerprint which is annoying, and I can't figure out the combination of settings to adjust this.
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Are you using any form of smart unlock, via location or bluetooth connections?
ECdOc said:
Are you using any form of smart unlock, via location or bluetooth connections?
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I am using SmartLock (both locations and bluetooth), and from running into another forum thread, I believe I'm also treating the Padlock icon wrong, where I was dragging it thinking it was there to be dragged, when really it was there to let me lock the phone (which half makes sense I guess), hence then requiring the Fingerprint unlock. Confusing, but makes more sense now.
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I am using SmartLock (both locations and bluetooth), and from running into another forum thread, I believe I'm also treating the Padlock icon wrong, where I was dragging it thinking it was there to be dragged, when really it was there to let me lock the phone (which half makes sense I guess), hence then requiring the Fingerprint unlock. Confusing, but makes more sense now.
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I was doing the same thing, which is why I asked about smart lock because I think that is the only time you will come across this issue. The more you know!
I have only added right hand thumb finger print for unlock my OP3.
But if you try multiple times with left hand thumb it unlocked my mobile.
Worst case is after n number of tries... Just lock with power button and again press power button swipe above its automatically unlock your phone.. It doesn't prompt for pin.... [emoji32] [emoji32] [emoji32]
[emoji35] [emoji35] [emoji35] on OP3 inventors... I think this mobile is not worth of INR 10000/-...based on this behavior of the phone.
For your information my phone on Oxygen 3.2.2.
I will create video and post if possible.
Issue found and OP3 HAD NO ISSUES
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A video would be good.
I did not encounter this issue once.
When I constantly scan the wrong finger, the device asks for a pin,
even after multiple power-presses.
This only happens for me if i have smart unlock enables (e.g i have my watch on me, or i'm at home) - even if i lock it so it asks for a pin, it will unlock after a few failed attempts of another finger. doesn't happen if i turn smart lock off (but i use it, why would i do that!)
manor7777 said:
This only happens for me if i have smart unlock enables (e.g i have my watch on me, or i'm at home) - even if i lock it so it asks for a pin, it will unlock after a few failed attempts of another finger. doesn't happen if i turn smart lock off (but i use it, why would i do that!)
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Yeah your correct.. But i never enabled on OP3 this feature.. When i had my s4 it was sync with my google account.. Now that is automatically sync to OP3.
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android.reddy143 said:
Yeah your correct.. But i never enabled on OP3 this feature.. When i had my s4 it was sync with my google account.. Now that is automatically sync to OP3.
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If it helps, turn ON smartlock (e.g set it to your home location or whatever) and turn it back off, see if it sorts it.
Looks like smart lock is on, by location or by bt device. Never happend on mine op3.
The fingerprint scanner on the OP3 is the best you can get on a phone nowadays.
Hi guys. Just wondering what peoples unlock set up is.
I have face recognition and pattern. Even though my hands are big enough i find the finger print scanner to be too much effort. I heard the retina scanner draws a lot of power so i dont use that.
I find the unlock pattern a bit of a nuisance and i get a little frustrated when the facial recognition doesnt work. Sony managed to put the print scanner on the side of their phine im sure samsung could have fit one in the space below the screen..... every method apart from the basic ones require you to pick up the phone.
So what are your unlock preferences?
My Pebble 2 as a trusted device. When I'm with my phone it's therefore unlocked
Fingerprint/pin unlock after 10 min, secure startup (pin).
Fingerprint for me it took like what half hour for me to get used to it being on the back of the phone
fingerprint is way quicker than any other unlock
Mr.Ash.Man said:
Fingerprint for me it took like what half hour for me to get used to it being on the back of the phone
fingerprint is way quicker than any other unlock
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Ive been using the iris scanner with samsung pay. Its pretty quick. Quicker than face scanner for me
None? I feel like I might be opening myself to bad things, but I like to just press hard on the bottom of the screen and boom, I'm into my phone.
Ken4G said:
None? I feel like I might be opening myself to bad things, but I like to just press hard on the bottom of the screen and boom, I'm into my phone.
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If you've got nothing to hide and don't store any unencrypted sensitive data on your phone, then that's definitely the fastest option.
I use my Huawei watch as a trusted device. This allows a hard press of the home button and I'm in.
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Ken4G said:
None? I feel like I might be opening myself to bad things, but I like to just press hard on the bottom of the screen and boom, I'm into my phone.
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I didnt have any on my last phone (note 3) but with all the tech in this phone i feel obliged to use it lol
I have mine always unlocked (no security)
How to disable the home button when the screen is locked? The screen now activates when you touch the home button (finger reader) - later phone can be unlock by PIN or finger, but how to disable screen wake up by this butto?. I would like to block this possibility so that the screen wakes up only by pressing the on / off button.
Your P10 does this?
I tried it on my P10 a second ago. My phone only vibrates when I tap the homebutton with a finger or part of my skin which isn't getting recognized by the phone. But the screen stays of.
Which version are you on? I'm on VTR-L29C432B162
i have VTR-L29C432B151, and a wanne disable it, because it is very annoying.
Dude, you really don't understand how fingerprint scanner with its features works...
Workaround: just don't tap on that area
Jannomag said:
Your P10 does this?
I tried it on my P10 a second ago. My phone only vibrates when I tap the homebutton with a finger or part of my skin which isn't getting recognized by the phone. But the screen stays of.
Which version are you on? I'm on VTR-L29C432B162
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When you deactivate the fingerprint reader to unlock your device(settings/fingerprint/screen unlock), then when you tap on the reader, when the device is locked, the screen turns on.
I personally use fingerprint to unlock my device, but have another complain and that is, when i want to check my lock screen for missed calls/recieved messages i have to take the device to my hand and push the on/off button.
would be great to have double tap to wake function.
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Workaround: just don't tap on that area
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You misunderstand. I'm having this same grievance as it's so easy to knock the scanner when moving the phone that the next movement then swipes to unlock it and the next thing you know you're opening apps and tapping stuff.
I don't give two hoots about fingerprint scanners as they are inherently insecure so I will never use mine. I'd like the ability to disable it completely so it doesn't even act as a button.
Silently said:
You misunderstand. I'm having this same grievance as it's so easy to knock the scanner when moving the phone that the next movement then swipes to unlock it and the next thing you know you're opening apps and tapping stuff.
I don't give two hoots about fingerprint scanners as they are inherently insecure so I will never use mine. I'd like the ability to disable it completely so it doesn't even act as a button.
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fingerprint is insecure? how does that?
DallasCZ said:
fingerprint is insecure? how does that?
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You're using a password that you carry on your person at all times, is always visible, and can't be changed. If someone steals your phone they just need to grab your hand and put it on the reader to have full access.
https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/fingerprints-sensors-security/10951/
Silently said:
You're using a password that you carry on your person at all times, is always visible, and can't be changed. If someone steals your phone they just need to grab your hand and put it on the reader to have full access.
https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/fingerprints-sensors-security/10951/
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Do you really think that someone would steal your phone and your hand just to unlock your device? Ok maybe if you are a bilionaire or presdent of the united states...
The same i can say about unlock pins or gestures ..they need just to put you under drugs and you will tell them the code.
Same as with iris scanner, they just need your phone and your eye .
Too paranoic in my opinion. There is way higher probability that you would die in car accident or airplane accident than someone stelas your phone and your hand . 99% of stolen phones are stolen beacuse of value of the device, not because someone would spend hours to get into your device.
But anyway it is your opinion ...
DallasCZ said:
But anyway it is your opinion ...
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Indeed.
So, getting back on track, does anyone know a way to disable the fingerprint reader in its entirety? I suspect this may only be possible with a custom-ROM or at the very least root access.
Besides it makes no sense, I think there is no oficial way to completly deactivate the fingerprint reader.