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Alternatives to the V²

While the V² may end up being an amazing phone, some of us can't wait for it to be released. (If it ever will be.)
This thread is for those who are looking for a phone with similar specs to the V².
Please keep this thread clean. Let's all be kind and respectful of others' opinions. :good:

Cullenator said:
While the V² may end up being an amazing phone, some of us can't wait for it to be released. (If it ever will be.)
This thread is for those who are looking for a phone with similar specs to the V².
Please keep this thread clean. Let's all be kind and respectful of others' opinions. :good:
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I have been looking and looking and looking. There isnt one. This is my dream phone:
- LG G2 sized, so 5.2" with small bezels.
- Removable, high capacity battery (3000mah+)
- Removable storage or affordable 64gb size
- Built in wireless charging
- 3gb+ ram
- Newer SoC
- Good camera with OIS
Thats it. Not asking for the moon. I can find some of those things in huge 5.5" + phones like the G4. I guess I will be getting used to a big phone again.
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This is probably as close as I am going to get if the rumored specs are true: http://www.androidpit.com/nexus-5-2015-price-release-date-specs-features

shaxs said:
I have been looking and looking and looking. There isnt one. This is my dream phone:
- LG G2 sized, so 5.2" with small bezels.
- Removable, high capacity battery (3000mah+)
- Removable storage or affordable 64gb size
- Built in wireless charging
- 3gb+ ram
- Newer SoC
- Good camera with OIS
Thats it. Not asking for the moon. I can find some of those things in huge 5.5" + phones like the G4. I guess I will be getting used to a big phone again.
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This is probably as close as I am going to get if the rumored specs are true: http://www.androidpit.com/nexus-5-2015-price-release-date-specs-features
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I hear ya, dude; I'm hoping the V2 makes it, but I can't wait unfortunately; my S3 is nearly dead. So yeah, we'll see. The G4 looks close, but it's way too big for me. Maybe the new Nexus will be almost as awesome as the proposed V2? We'll see.

Here are the features that made me pre-order the Saygus V². These are in particular order.
5" 1080p sunlight viewable screen. 2.5K resolution is overkill and just eats battery and I don't like phones with screens larger than 5".
Large removable battery.
Small bezels. This means the phone doesn't have a large footprint for it's screen size like the iPhone or Sony Z series.
64gb built in storage.
microSD slot. Dual wasn't important to me but having expandable memory was.
Optical image stabilization. It was nice that both cameras have it but I really wanted it in the main camera.
Waterproof.
Snapdragon 801.
3gb RAM.
The closest thing to this is the upcoming Galaxy S6 Active except the screen size is slightly large for my taste and it has 2.5K resolution. I can live with the built in battery if it's 3500mAh.
I was really hoping that Google would make a new version of the Nexus 5 with basically the same specs as the Nexus 6 except with a 5" 1080p screen. The only drawback to the Nexus series is that we almost definitely won't see one with a microSD card slot. I'm still surprised that Google didn't get someone to build an updated Nexus 5 yet, especially with the launch of Project Fi.
<rant>I wish the Android smartphone manufacturers (i.e. LG, OnePlus, etc) would realize that the majority of people don't want a screen over 5.5" and larger. How do I know this? Because Apple make the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus which have almost the exact same specs except for the screen size and resolution and based on this article 80% of the iPhone 6 models sold are the 4.7" version with the other 20% being the 5.5" version. If customers really wanted a smartphone with a really large screen then they'd be buying the 5.5" iPhone 6 Plus more than the 4.7" iPhone 6.</rant>

I originally was going to buy an S6, against my better judgement, until I found I could not buy a 128GB version, even from the AT&T store. I've considered the S5, but I can't find an unlocked 32GB version that works on 4G. I considered the Note 4, but I really don't want a phablet, and that's a lot of money to spend on a phone I feel I won't like due to its size. Also, it frustrates me that two of the main alternatives to the S6 I considered due to the S6's lack of expandable storage and removable battery are both Samsung's, so even if I did go with one of them, I would still be giving them money. Before any of this, I was looking at the Sony Xperia Z4, until that turned out to be a letdown, and then the Sony Xperia Z3, but again there is no 32GB unlocked version. Despite my hatred of Motorola, I even considered the Droid Turbo/Maxx, until I realized it lacks expandable storage. The G4 looks ok, but it's a bit large for my taste (though supposedly not as bad as other 5.5" phones), I really don't think I'd like the buttons on the back, and there are no real reviews yet of it. Not to mention it irritates me they're releasing two other "G4" versions that are nothing like the G4, but rather are stripped down junk. The Zenphone 2 is big and just seems cheap, which I get it is a cheap phone, but still. The S6 Active may end up being the closest thing to perfect, but I don't know how I'll like the physical buttons, and I think I'd rather it be less bulky so people that want the extra protection can use a case, but leave that up to the individual. I've pre-ordered the Elephone P7000, which looks like a really good phone for the price, but again, no 32GB version. Still, for the price, I can live with that for a few months until something better comes out. So many phones that are almost great, but fall short. I've been searching high and low for the past 2-3 months and it's getting tiresome. I'd love some other ideas, but I doubt anybody can point me to something I don't already know about.

My ideal phone matches up very much the same. If Samsung released a plastic body S4 v2 with more RAM, more built-in storage, updated CPU, 5" 1080p screen with otherwise S6 qualities, UFS 2.0, etc., while retaining the S4 size/weight, removable battery, and SD slot, I'd have little hesitation buying it, even if it cost the same as the S6. Doooosen't look like they're going to do that. A phone's looks don't matter to me, and I actually prefer the plastic body for weight and toughness factors. Doesn't have to be Samsung, but I've had an S4 for two years and having handling many phones, I find it gives the best fit in my hand while having an adequate sized screen of any phone yet.
The Saygus, if it proves to be the real deal, it's actually in the right size range and is loaded with so many features (2x SD is my favorite) that it has no real competition for my needs. As it stands, I'm most likely going to have to hold my nose and get a 128GB S6, which for me has no real competition as Plan B. I have no regrets with my S4 or S2, to me they were clearly the best phones for me on the market at time of purchase. But I want to vote with my wallet against the S6 because the removal of (to me) major features, but I might not have a suitable option. Also, I'm on TMOUS and most of the decent non-carrier devices won't work with their LTE bands and I'd lose WiFi Calling, so it's pretty much between Samsung, LG, Sony, HTC, Alcatel, and Nexus. The S5 and M9 look like the next best options. The Saygus is the only outside phone under consideration at this point.

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The S5 and M9 look like the next best options. The Saygus is the only outside phone under consideration at this point.
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I have the LG G2 and at less than $200 for a new off contract phone it really is hard to beat. I considered the S5 only because it can have wireless charging added fairly easily, but the ROM support for the S5 isnt as good. But if they offered the S5 with 3gb ram, I think I would be in.

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I have the LG G2 and at less than $200 for a new off contract phone it really is hard to beat. I considered the S5 only because it can have wireless charging added fairly easily, but the ROM support for the S5 isnt as good. But if they offered the S5 with 3gb ram, I think I would be in.
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Thanks, the G2 might be the best short-term option. TMo has refurb G2s for $228 & no money down & $9.50/month. It's the other end of the spectrum in price with the S6, amongst phones without SD and removable battery. Only 32GB is a big step down from my S4, but for daily usage it would probably be fine. Having lots of extra storage and batteries is brilliant when needed, like spending the day in an airport and having tons of locally stored music/movie choices, but most of the time as a DD can be lived without. Other negatives: a little larger and heavier, and non-AMOLED screen. On the plus side, it's got a bit better CPU and larger screen size than the S4. And a lot cheaper than the S6, S5, M9. If it had SD and removable battery, it would be a no-brainer.
I broke my S4 screen and replaced it myself with a $6 piece of glass off ebay. It's worked great considering the price, but it's more reflective and the touch input is far from perfect. It's still functional, but annoying, & $9.50/month is pretty light, so I think I'll give that a shot. They have a 15 day trial period, too. In the long run, worst case scenario, I end up with a spare phone / mini WiFi tablet that only cost $228.

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I originally was going to buy an S6, against my better judgement, until I found I could not buy a 128GB version, even from the AT&T store. I've considered the S5, but I can't find an unlocked 32GB version that works on 4G. I considered the Note 4, but I really don't want a phablet, and that's a lot of money to spend on a phone I feel I won't like due to its size. Also, it frustrates me that two of the main alternatives to the S6 I considered due to the S6's lack of expandable storage and removable battery are both Samsung's, so even if I did go with one of them, I would still be giving them money. Before any of this, I was looking at the Sony Xperia Z4, until that turned out to be a letdown, and then the Sony Xperia Z3, but again there is no 32GB unlocked version. Despite my hatred of Motorola, I even considered the Droid Turbo/Maxx, until I realized it lacks expandable storage. The G4 looks ok, but it's a bit large for my taste (though supposedly not as bad as other 5.5" phones), I really don't think I'd like the buttons on the back, and there are no real reviews yet of it. Not to mention it irritates me they're releasing two other "G4" versions that are nothing like the G4, but rather are stripped down junk. The Zenphone 2 is big and just seems cheap, which I get it is a cheap phone, but still. The S6 Active may end up being the closest thing to perfect, but I don't know how I'll like the physical buttons, and I think I'd rather it be less bulky so people that want the extra protection can use a case, but leave that up to the individual. I've pre-ordered the Elephone P7000, which looks like a really good phone for the price, but again, no 32GB version. Still, for the price, I can live with that for a few months until something better comes out. So many phones that are almost great, but fall short. I've been searching high and low for the past 2-3 months and it's getting tiresome. I'd love some other ideas, but I doubt anybody can point me to something I don't already know about.
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I went through a similar decision making process except I never considered getting the Galaxy S6 after they got rid of the microSD slot, reduced the battery capacity and made it built in and didn't make it waterproof. Back in 2014 when the Galaxy S5 was released, I was also waiting for T-Mobile to release the 32gb version (even though it has expandable storage) because I was worried about running into storage issues for apps (because many apps can't be moved to a microSD card with KitKat) but none of the US carriers ever released the Galaxy S5 with 32gb. AFAIK only the international version was released with 32gb storage. Then after I learned that T-Mobile was rolling out LTE on band 12 (700 MHz block A) and the Galaxy S5 didn't support it then I wasn't interested in it anymore. Then I looked at the T-Mobile version of the Sony Xperia Z3 (which supports LTE on band 12) but those huge bezels really bothered me. It's a phone with a 5.2" screen that's almost as big as the Galaxy Note 4 which has a 5.7" screen. I decided to wait for the Xperia Z4 hoping that it would have optical image stabilization but unfortunately it didn't. Most recently I considered the HTC One M9 because it IMHO had the perfect screen size/resolution 5" 1080p, top of the line Snapdragon 810 processor, 32gb storage, microSD card slot, decent size battery but unfortunately no optical image stabilization in the camera. The Elephone P7000 looks interesting for the price but it looks like it's basically an upgraded OnePlus One but a 5.5" screen is just too big for me.

Options
The ZTE Nubia Z9 Mini looks like a very good option for those of you that are running current devices that are a couple of years old, but I don't think it offers enough of an upgrade from my Z3 Compact for me to consider. But, given the expected price and general specs I think this would be a great choice for most people. There is a little bit of me that is tempted to go for this device just to scratch my 'must buy a new phone' itch!
The Nubia Z9 (not Mini or Max, confusing nomenclature!) also looks like a well specced device, but there seems to be uncertainty about whether this has an SD card slot, plus it runs the Snapdragon 810 which seems to be a rather tainted SoC from what I read everywhere.
The Sharp Aquos Xx also looks interesting, 84% screen ratio but again Snapdragon 810 and I've no idea whether Sharp make decent phones or not...

Any options with dual boot phones
For me the main reason to order Saygus V² was the dual boot option, with the possibility to boot from microsd card. Is anyone aware of other smartphones with this feature?

hella356 said:
I actually prefer the plastic body for weight and toughness factors.
I want to vote with my wallet against the S6 because the removal of (to me) major features
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+1 on both counts
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The ZTE Nubia Z9 Mini looks like a very good option
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Not for me. Non-removable battery, which I would be willing to overlook if all else was good and it had Quick Charge, but it does not (of course, all else being equal, I will always choose the phone with the removable battery, and if I were to buy one without, it would be a temp phone until a different one with a removable battery came out). Also, only 16GB internal memory is NOT enough. 32GB is minimum for me. The ONLY reason I ever got rid of my EVO 4G was because I was constantly getting low memory errors, and I don't want to deal with that again. I don't want to settle for a phone with less than 32GB internal and less than 96GB total memory, even a temporary one. At least the P7000 is very cheap and has otherwise good specs and a removable battery, so the internal memory is the only big sacrifice. Unfortunately, it looks like that one is out, too, and I need to cancel my order, because it doesn't work on AT&T's LTE.

Thanks
Thanks for this thread. As much as I can't look away from the train wreck that is Saygus, I really do need to replace my outdated phone and leave the Apple compound and koolaid behind.
You'd think it would be easy to buy a decent phone with a swappable battery and expandable storage.

Zinguy said:
Thanks for this thread. As much as I can't look away from the train wreck that is Saygus, I really do need to replace my outdated phone and leave the Apple compound and koolaid behind.
You'd think it would be easy to buy a decent phone with a swappable battery and expandable storage.
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Yeah that's the crazy part, I still want the V2 because of the features. I'm shocked that more people aren't worried about support after the sale from Saygus though.

Zinguy said:
Thanks for this thread. As much as I can't look away from the train wreck that is Saygus, I really do need to replace my outdated phone and leave the Apple compound and koolaid behind.
You'd think it would be easy to buy a decent phone with a swappable battery and expandable storage.
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The problem is most mainstream manufacturers seem to be heading towards sealed unit phones, and the majority have given up on SD support on flagships. Sony is a noticeable exception but their in life care leaves a lot to be desired - the official Sony phone forums are full of threads on issues that Sony refuses to officially acknowledge.
A lot of the 'cheaper' phones from Chinese manufacturers interest me, but there is always a compromise there. Honor's cheaper phones have non-backlit capacitive buttons. Meizu and Xiaomi seem to shun SD. Elephone seems a little left field. Most Chinese flagships are 5.5 inch.
What we all seem to agree on is that the V2 offered the fewest compromises, and everything else has at least one glaring black mark that we realistically are not able to swallow. Which makes the apparent train wreck of the V2 that much harder to take and ultimately is responsible for the sometime over emotional outbursts by the various pro/anti Saygus camps.

lukec36 said:
The ZTE Nubia Z9 Mini looks like a very good option for those of you that are running current devices that are a couple of years old, but I don't think it offers enough of an upgrade from my Z3 Compact for me to consider. But, given the expected price and general specs I think this would be a great choice for most people. There is a little bit of me that is tempted to go for this device just to scratch my 'must buy a new phone' itch!
The Nubia Z9 (not Mini or Max, confusing nomenclature!) also looks like a well specced device, but there seems to be uncertainty about whether this has an SD card slot, plus it runs the Snapdragon 810 which seems to be a rather tainted SoC from what I read everywhere.
The Sharp Aquos Xx also looks interesting, 84% screen ratio but again Snapdragon 810 and I've no idea whether Sharp make decent phones or not...
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Actually the ZTE Nubia Z9 does look pretty amazing. Only issue for me is no wireless charging and the price seems high. The Sharp Aquos Xx doesnt have a speaker. Not sure how I would like that.

This is an interesting alternative I saw on BGR but I doubt it will be available with support for US networks. It's made by a Chinese company called Innos and it has a 5.2-inch 1080p display, a Snapdragon 615 1.8GHz octa-core processor, a 16-megapixel rear-facing camera, a 5-megapixel front-facing camera, 3 GB of RAM, 32GB of storage and Android 5.0 Lollipop. The most interesting thing about it is that has dual batteries with a total capacity of 6000mAh, an internal one that's 2480mAh and an external replaceable one that's 3520mAh. I don't think it has a microSD memory card slot but if someone can read Chinese then the second link will have all the specs. I tried Google translate on the page but it didn't translate much.
http://bgr.com/2015/05/22/best-smartphone-battery-innos-d6000/
http://www.innos.com/yiluo/product.php?lang=cn&class2=168

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This is an interesting alternative I saw on BGR but I doubt it will be available with support for US networks. It's made by a Chinese company called Innos and it has a 5.2-inch 1080p display, a Snapdragon 615 1.8GHz octa-core processor, a 16-megapixel rear-facing camera, a 5-megapixel front-facing camera, 3 GB of RAM, 32GB of storage and Android 5.0 Lollipop. The most interesting thing about it is that has dual batteries with a total capacity of 6000mAh, an internal one that's 2480mAh and an external replaceable one that's 3520mAh. I don't think it has a microSD memory card slot but if someone can read Chinese then the second link will have all the specs. I tried Google translate on the page but it didn't translate much.
http://bgr.com/2015/05/22/best-smartphone-battery-innos-d6000/
http://www.innos.com/yiluo/product.php?lang=cn&class2=168
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Wow that looks really cool!

If someone knows of another phone with a reasonable screen size, removable battery, waterproofing, front facing speakers, expandable storage, a durable body material (i.e. not aluminum, something that doesn't need a case) and a fingerprint reader, I'd like to know about it.
Or at least most of those things.

MikeyMike01 said:
If someone knows of another phone with a reasonable screen size, removable battery, waterproofing, front facing speakers, expandable storage, a durable body material (i.e. not aluminum, something that doesn't need a case) and a fingerprint reader, I'd like to know about it.
Or at least most of those things.
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The Galaxy S5 meets most of your criteria. The only thing it lacks out of those is the front-facing speakers. I know, some people would argue it also doesn't have a "durable body," since it's made out of plastic, but I 100% disagree. My S4 was tough as hell, despite being plastic (and I actually think partly because of it, since plastic flexes and also weighs less, so less impact force when falling). I've thrown it so many times, to the point the case came off and the battery flew out once, and it never so much as got a scratch that I saw. And the only reason I put a case on it was because it was too thin and felt weird in the hand, and the case I used was a very slim one, so it didn't add much to the phone, just a tiny bit of extra thickness and a better grip. As much as I dislike Samsung right now, the S5 would be my next phone if it were available unlocked with 32GB internal memory.

Should I buy the one plus 3T or wait for the one plus 5/4 ?

With the recent rumors on OP4/5 specs and release date should I get the OP3T or wait ?
I can't stay 2 or 3 more months with the state of my current phone btw.

U can buy!!!
If you are not worried about cosmetic changes like dual curved display(rumour) and all then u can definetly go with op3t because i beleive sd 835 performance relative to sd 821 will be neglible.

did you own your oneplus device?
if not, go and buy 3T without waiting.

rio1992 said:
If you are not worried about cosmetic changes like dual curved display(rumour) and all then u can definetly go with op3t because i beleive sd 835 performance relative to sd 821 will be neglible.
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Not so sure about it. From Snapdragon 820 to 821 there isn't a huge gap, but from Snapdragon 821 to 835, there will much differencies, like "revisited" Fast Charge for example.

I have bought One+1, One+2, and One+3, and have all of them within my family. So, I think I have the necessary authority to comment on the matter.
If you want a simple answer, it would be "yes, please go for it."
The complicated answer would be, it would depend on your situation.
If you don't have a primary driver and need a smartphone urgently, go get the OnePlus 3T. Don't wait for the next iteration as it will not be worth the trouble if you don't have a phone like 3T.
But if you already have a primary driver then advice you to wait for a couple of months.
By the way, my primary driver is One+ 1, with no regrets. I look down on other phones no matter how new, because One+1 still manages to perform and look better than them. You can call me a "phonist" (like the racist), you know what I mean.

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Not so sure about it. From Snapdragon 820 to 821 there isn't a huge gap, but from Snapdragon 821 to 835, there will much difference, like "revisited" Fast Charge for example.
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there will be relatively big differences but there will not be big performance differences, like it might be deca-core but it will be low GHz so almost obsolete difference, really there will just be cool differences that we will all love to try and make the most of but really within a month it'll be like eh basically the same.

I don't understand posts like this....if you always wait til the next upgrade you'd never buy a phone!
The 3t is already touted as one of the best phones around (for the money it certainly is), so why hesitate? The OS is in a good state, its reliable and fast and has only been out a couple of months. Personally I think it could do with a bigger battery - fast charge is a poor way to go about reducing the size (and cost) of batteries in devices. People want longevity, not having to carry around chargers incase it doesn't make the end of the day! I wish manufacturers would start listening and putting in bigger batteries. My Huawei Mate 9 Porsche has a 4000 mah battery and has no problem reaching the end of the day yet the device is the same size as the OP3T!
The screen could be better too. But its certainly zippy non laggy and ticks all the right boxes.

Is it a good time too buy the P10 now

With all the news going around Huawei's false advertisement relating to the storage chip and the ram, is there news about what Huawei will decide to do, or are they still going quiet.
I'm still interested in getting the P10, but not knowing what i'll get. For those who does who have crap version, is there any noticable differences in normal daily use.
I'm open to suggestions, otherwise I have to decide whether to get the S8 or G6, but I prefer the P10 over those two.
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I think models in Europe should mostly have ufs storage. As for the ram, I've read that the kirin 960 cpu only supports lpddr4 type memory.
At the moment I have a p10, single sim 64gb version and have ufs memory, speeds are just shy of 700mb/s. Before I had an s7 edge.
I can say only this about my p10, it is BY FAR the fastest android phone that I have used. And I have used many. It rivals the iPhone 7, even beating it in some cases.
About the emmc version, I have watched a speed test between a xiaomi mi6 with ufs 2.1 and the xiaomi was faster by about 3 seconds at the end of the app opening test. They opened about 15 apps one after another and measured the total time.

Where they comparing the Xiaomi device to a eMMC device? Otherwise it's not comforting anyone getting a eMMC device

I am from Hong Kong, and we have the dual sim version, although I can check many phones at the shop, but I am not able to do this for the Huawei.
Will there be a really big differences between the memory used.

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Where they comparing the Xiaomi device to a eMMC device? Otherwise it's not comforting anyone getting a eMMC device
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Yes, they were using a p10 with emmc memory. The speed difference was minor compared to mi6 with ufs 2.1.
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kms108 said:
I am from Hong Kong, and we have the dual sim version, although I can check many phones at the shop, but I am not able to do this for the Huawei.
Will there be a really big differences between the memory used.
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I do not think there is much of a difference. Maybe only when copying large files.
Apple has done this with the iPhone 7 also. The baseline iPhone 7 and 7+ with 32gb of internal storage have about three times slower read/write speeds than the ones with 128/256.

Better to wait a month more for newer batches and less rush, so that the device comes with olephobic coating and UFS 2.1. However i don't expect a drop in price although might catch some temporary offers.

Thanks, got one locally and a brief testing, i get UFS 2.0, i'm happy with it, as long as it's not eMMC, even my sony Xperia XP is eMMC, and it's works well for me, although i traded it for the P10.

Is there a problem with WiFi speed on the P10? I saw some reviewers complaining about WiFi performance being way inferior compared to other 2017 and 2016 devices. Like P10 barely reaching 30mbit download speeds on 100 and more Mbit networks.

bandit_knight said:
Is there a problem with WiFi speed on the P10? I saw some reviewers complaining about WiFi performance being way inferior compared to other 2017 and 2016 devices. Like P10 barely reaching 30mbit download speeds on 100 and more Mbit networks.
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I have 50mb/s internet speed, speedtest.net app on phone always show above 48mb/s.

MilanSec said:
I have 50mb/s internet speed, speedtest.net app on phone always show above 48mb/s.
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Thanks for the answer.
Is it a 5Ghz or 2.4Ghz network? My current device - OnePlus 3 performs very good on 5Ghz but on 2.4Ghz it only reaches maybe 20mbit. And I use a 150Mbit broadband link at home. My wife's iPhone 6s easily tops 100mbit on the same WiFi.
The issues that some YouTube reviewers reported with the P10 looked like the one I have with my OP3.
I am considering an upgrade to P10 and I really want it to be an upgrade

Ufs 2.0
Not bothered about the silly bollocks thing as this p10 is the best phone iv had, certainly the fastest, coming from owning every HTC flagship since 2011

exocetdj said:
Ufs 2.0
Not bothered about the silly bollocks thing as this p10 is the best phone iv had, certainly the fastest, coming from owning every HTC flagship since 2011
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My first Huawei, and I really like it, choose this over the S8 and G6, it's a shame the pink version isn't available in Hong Kong, we only have the blue, black silver and gold, whiles china also have a pink and green, anyway, I intend to change the metal back, it's readly available in china very cheap, and seeing youtube, it's also very easy to change.
Also I get 42Mbps with 2.4Ghz and over 98Mbps with 5Ghz in wifi.

Not recommended to buy, I think xiaomi 6 more affordable

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Thanks for the answer.
Is it a 5Ghz or 2.4Ghz network? My current device - OnePlus 3 performs very good on 5Ghz but on 2.4Ghz it only reaches maybe 20mbit. And I use a 150Mbit broadband link at home. My wife's iPhone 6s easily tops 100mbit on the same WiFi.
The issues that some YouTube reviewers reported with the P10 looked like the one I have with my OP3.
I am considering an upgrade to P10 and I really want it to be an upgrade
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I have tried both on 2.4 and 5Ghz, though where I live internet speeds aren't so good, so the max I could have tested is 50mb/s. On both i always get over 48mb/s

tylercurry said:
Not recommended to buy, I think xiaomi 6 more affordable
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it's down to personal preferences really, Mi 6 don't have a headphone jack and no micro SD card slot.

I've also owned a few flagships from HTC, Samsung and even iPhone.
Must admit that the P10 still is one of the quickest phones I've used. Battery does well, charging is quick.
Camera is fun to use and crisp. Fingerprint scanner is lightning fast. And I very much like the design of the phone.
Could've gone without EMUI, but given the opportunity to buy another P10 or a different flagship, I'd still opt for the P10.

I have 200/80 connection here in Bangkok. The P10 hits maximum with 5G connection. I find my 3 year old Samsung​ Galaxy Tab S hits consistently better speeds from further away, when compared to the P10. Hence, I use 2.4G when I am downstairs.

tylercurry said:
Not recommended to buy, I think xiaomi 6 more affordable
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Now, the price of xiaomi mi6 is too expensive.

KevinX89 said:
Now, the price of xiaomi mi6 is too expensive.
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And also mi6 doesn't have all 3G/4G Band

Recent year Mi phones has become cheaply made and cost has increased, only their red mi has the cheap price.

What went wrong with Nokia 8?

It's a great phone and most impressive is SD 835 in it but today I found a deal on my local used market for 250$. He'll, I want to buy it but I don't know why it's so cheap. I am getting he'll of a deal here but is it any good?
I read comments on Amazon and many said it's having a heating problem. I want to buy a good phone for gaming as my Moto Z Play couldn't able to handle pubg very well.
One more thing is that the xda community had igoned Nokia 8, it doesn't have a single official custom ROM or recovery. Phone is good but all this things keeping me from not buying it. I want to know is it any good to buy a used one for 250$?

XDA community hasn't ignored it so much as Nokia/HMD haven't allowed the bootloader to be unlocked
The phone's principal other flaw is that the camera isn't great. Both the stock camera software (post processing, features) and the sensor aren't up to the quality you would expect of a 2017 flagship or even (for the most part) the Galaxy S6 I upgraded from. Until now running modded Google cam has allievated the software side, and there's an update rolling out from Friday that will add camera functionality and hopefully improve the processing and the use of the monochrome sensor. I wouldn't expect miracles though.
Other than those points this is a solid phone. The screen is a nice IPS that does good blacks, accurate colours and is capable of very high brightness. There is no heating problem and in fact this is the coolest phone I've ever used, it's a challenge to make this thing heat up. Software is as close to stock you'll get on a non-Google device. SnapDragon 835 blasts through anything you might want to do. Headphone jack seems to supply a lot of power and music sounds clean and clear. Nokia has been good with updates thus far, releasing OS and security updates better than any non-Google phone afaik.

I also found a great deal for a Nokia 8 6gb ram 128gb internal for 250$. Still thinking if i should give up my Moto Z Play for this Nokia

if quality(which can be improved with a new app) of photos is not your top priority, then you should definitely buy this one.

Manish355 said:
It's a great phone and most impressive is SD 835 in it but today I found a deal on my local used market for 250$. He'll, I want to buy it but I don't know why it's so cheap. I am getting he'll of a deal here but is it any good?
I read comments on Amazon and many said it's having a heating problem. I want to buy a good phone for gaming as my Moto Z Play couldn't able to handle pubg very well.
One more thing is that the xda community had igoned Nokia 8, it doesn't have a single official custom ROM or recovery. Phone is good but all this things keeping me from not buying it. I want to know is it any good to buy a used one for 250$?
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Nothing went wrong, it was a loss leader to get the Nokia brand up and running and noticed again.
Best phone i have owned apart from the camera in low light but the new camera app may help with that.

It's a great phone for gaming...I play pubg mobile on the maximum settings with extreme FPS settings and it's silky smooth... It does warm up a little but less then any other phone I've had while gaming, the one and only issue I have with this phone is that the power button has a little bit of rattle/play and that drives my OCD crazy.

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I also found a great deal for a Nokia 8 6gb ram 128gb internal for 250$. Still thinking if i should give up my Moto Z Play for this Nokia
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I couldn't decide too, but i think i need to give up my Moto Z Play for PUBG. And SD835 is future proof too. I don't use camera that much so it's not an issue for me, i think it should be a good deal.

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It's a great phone for gaming...I play pubg mobile on the maximum settings with extreme FPS settings and it's silky smooth... It does warm up a little but less then any other phone I've had while gaming, the one and only issue I have with this phone is that the power button has a little bit of rattle/play and that drives my OCD crazy.
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Thanks bro, i wanted to know how PUBG runs on Nokia 8, i am gonna buy it. Only thing thats i'm scared of is Custom ROMs. I like to flash different ROMs. Man, i need to choose between Customization and Gaming.

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XDA community hasn't ignored it so much as Nokia/HMD haven't allowed the bootloader to be unlocked
The phone's principal other flaw is that the camera isn't great. Both the stock camera software (post processing, features) and the sensor aren't up to the quality you would expect of a 2017 flagship or even (for the most part) the Galaxy S6 I upgraded from. Until now running modded Google cam has allievated the software side, and there's an update rolling out from Friday that will add camera functionality and hopefully improve the processing and the use of the monochrome sensor. I wouldn't expect miracles though.
Other than those points this is a solid phone. The screen is a nice IPS that does good blacks, accurate colours and is capable of very high brightness. There is no heating problem and in fact this is the coolest phone I've ever used, it's a challenge to make this thing heat up. Software is as close to stock you'll get on a non-Google device. SnapDragon 835 blasts through anything you might want to do. Headphone jack seems to supply a lot of power and music sounds clean and clear. Nokia has been good with updates thus far, releasing OS and security updates better than any non-Google phone afaik.
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Wow, even bootloader is not possible to unlock on the phone. I am scared that I'd be bored after some time of using it. But, i think the most important thing for me would be gaming than flashing custom ROMs. I'd be buying it soon.

i hope it will have a great modding community!

i really like this phone, i am a fan of bug battery phones, i own a lenovo p2 and i can't see a real replacement to buy, i don't want to buy a 4000mah phone but at least 5 or 6000k mah and THIS ROG phone seems to be the best flashship ever created, not only for the rest of the spects but primarily for the BIGGEST EVER battery in a top end phone.
i know this phone is pricey and the community strenght of the previous rog phone is 0% ... no roms no kernels... but i really hope that this one will have a good community here..... because i am sick to see top phones of only 4000mah

realista87 said:
i really like this phone, i am a fan of bug battery phones, i own a lenovo p2 and i can't see a real replacement to buy, i don't want to buy a 4000mah phone but at least 5 or 6000k mah and THIS ROG phone seems to be the best flashship ever created, not only for the rest of the spects but primarily for the BIGGEST EVER battery in a top end phone.
i know this phone is pricey and the community strenght of the previous rog phone is 0% ... no roms no kernels... but i really hope that this one will have a good community here..... because i am sick to see top phones of only 4000mah
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At the very least twrp, magisk, and a method of going back to stock. Life would be grand ?

yes me also wanting to import soon as its out to AUS

THIS IS REALLY the best smartphone on the earth.... it does have EVERYTHING........ i know oneplus 7 pro have strong community but the ones who likes that phone should PREFER THIS ONE.... bigger battery.... more 120hz refresh rate.... what else?

realista87 said:
THIS IS REALLY the best smartphone on the earth.... it does have EVERYTHING........ i know oneplus 7 pro have strong community but the ones who likes that phone should PREFER THIS ONE.... bigger battery.... more 120hz refresh rate.... what else?
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2k screen, wireless charging, better cameras

Unfortunately it's more than hardware that determines this. Hopefully they communicate with the buyers more and update the OS quickly and frequently. If Asus is smart they'll send developer phones and work with the mod community like they're doing for the Zenfone 6. Unfortunately while there are plenty of examples of what to do to get loyal customers and brand evangelists most refuse to do the usually simple things required to achieve this.

realista87 said:
i really like this phone, i am a fan of bug battery phones, i own a lenovo p2 and i can't see a real replacement to buy, i don't want to buy a 4000mah phone but at least 5 or 6000k mah and THIS ROG phone seems to be the best flashship ever created, not only for the rest of the spects but primarily for the BIGGEST EVER battery in a top end phone.
i know this phone is pricey and the community strenght of the previous rog phone is 0% ... no roms no kernels... but i really hope that this one will have a good community here..... because i am sick to see top phones of only 4000mah
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China version 8+128GB, 500USD. Not pricey.

500USD? That’s gotta be because of the Tencent (owner of PUBG) partnership. No doubt in my mind that phone comes with some Tencent bloatware.
International version will definitely be more expensive though, especially if the bloatware’s not on it.

I heard they are also working on a stock android version reminds me of the Google Play Edition phones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3eFXeO62oo&t=506s

TheForceUnleashed said:
500USD? That’s gotta be because of the Tencent (owner of PUBG) partnership. No doubt in my mind that phone comes with some Tencent bloatware.
International version will definitely be more expensive though, especially if the bloatware’s not on it.
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Some hardware reduce (China have 2 phone version 8GB/128GB vs 12GB/512GB )
Wireless mimo NO
HDR chip to convert SDR NO ------ ASUS website deleted when selling
Cooling fan NO
30W power supplier NO (Phone still support i think)
Rumor: Different screen vendor ------ Wrong

the 12gb/512gb chinese release is also tencent only? If i buy it now will i be able to change to stock android

hedgewizard said:
the 12gb/512gb chinese release is also tencent only? If i buy it now will i be able to change to stock android
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I don’t think the Tencent version will have the option for the Stock Android UI. Believe it’s only a Worldwide/US feature.
It comes out in a little more than a month for us.

TheForceUnleashed said:
I don’t think the Tencent version will have the option for the Stock Android UI. Believe it’s only a Worldwide/US feature.
It comes out in a little more than a month for us.
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Wish that tencent version can flash to ww/us version.

2 million pre-orders already in China so hope this helps

I'm getting it regardless. I don't think it is expected to have wireless charging, and I don't know about expandable memory. I'm hopeful.

Dathaniel said:
I'm getting it regardless. I don't think it is expected to have wireless charging, and I don't know about expandable memory. I'm hopeful.
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No wireless charging. And it won’t have expandable memory on its own, but it the gaming accessories that you can get with it come with SD slots.
But I’ve never used more than 50GB on a phone and this thing packs 512GB out the box

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No wireless charging. And it won’t have expandable memory on its own, but it the gaming accessories that you can get with it come with SD slots.
But I’ve never used more than 50GB on a phone and this thing packs 512GB out the box
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Just orderd the 128 gigs version
Is it great like the 512 version?

rowihel2012 said:
Just orderd the 128 gigs version
Is it great like the 512 version?
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Yeah, you should be good. 8GB RAM is still higher than the standard for flagships and 128GB is the standard at this point.

rowihel2012 said:
Just orderd the 128 gigs version
Is it great like the 512 version?
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Hey could you tell me where you ordered it from?

Huffy1 said:
Hey could you tell me where you ordered it from?
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My Friend is coming from china after 4 days
He already bought it for me from chines local store
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Yeah, you should be good. 8GB RAM is still higher than the standard for flagships and 128GB is the standard at this point.
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Does stock camera has night mode ?