NFC payment not working - ING - Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers

Hi,
I set up my account for nfc payment with my bank ING netherlands. However it never seems to even connect when i want to make a payment. Just get no response whatsoever.
Nfc works fine for my speaker, so the chip is working.
Anybody has ing and experienced something similar? Or any advice on how to make it work?

I'm on Lineage and am proably going to try it next week. On what software are you? and which version/date?

I am on the latest MIUI global beta.
in case it works for you, please let me know. might have to try switching rom then.

I'm on ING as well, and I can pay using NFC without problems. Are you sure the PIN terminals you used work with phones? The supermarket near my home has wireless terminals which don't. If you've never had NFC payments work at this store before, you could try somewhere else.
On Resurrection Remix, btw.

I finally got it working. I will rxplain what went wrong.
ING uses HCE for nfc payments. In my settings, secure element type was set to default, and had to change it to HCE in order for it to work.

V-incent said:
I finally got it working. I will rxplain what went wrong.
ING uses HCE for nfc payments. In my settings, secure element type was set to default, and had to change it to HCE in order for it to work.
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Vincent, where do you change this setting in Lineage 14.1? Is it even possible to change this in the UI of Android?

michaeljansse said:
Vincent, where do you change this setting in Lineage 14.1? Is it even possible to change this in the UI of Android?
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I was doing that on miui 8 sorry. But if it is there, it is peobably in settings->more

Ok, thanks @V-incent. This setting is not present in Lineage 14.1. In fact, there are very few settings for mobile payment.
But you are using the ROM MIUI 8? How is that compared to Lineage?

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WiFi calling (UK)

Just read that Three is discontinuing it's WiFi calling app as most phones have this as standard now. I have no reception in my flat so this has been a lifesaver. I have figured out how to activate the volte and WiFi calling toggles but only the volte seems to work (I get an icon when on 4g). Has anyone been able to get this to work on any UK network?
Eggstones said:
Just read that Three is discontinuing it's WiFi calling app as most phones have this as standard now. I have no reception in my flat so this has been a lifesaver. I have figured out how to activate the volte and WiFi calling toggles but only the volte seems to work (I get an icon when on 4g). Has anyone been able to get this to work on any UK network?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/help/los-16-0-uk-native-wifi-calling-t3925743
Any LOS/Based ROM should work.
Thanks. I had a look on the other thread and couldn't see WiFi calling as an option despite being able to toggle it on. Can't remember what code I used.
Eggstones said:
Thanks. I had a look on the other thread and couldn't see WiFi calling as an option despite being able to toggle it on. Can't remember what code I used.
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If it doesn't show as 'Provisioned' under the *#*#4636#*#* menu, it's not available. You're using OOS, right? I'm not sure there's any method to force the issue. Maybe a Magisk module?
Or start using Custom ROMs?
Dirk said:
If it doesn't show as 'Provisioned' under the *#*#4636#*#* menu, it's not available. You're using OOS, right? I'm not sure there's any method to force the issue. Maybe a Magisk module?
Or start using Custom ROMs?
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I'm using OOS Oreo. I'm trying to remember what I did to get the toggles under sim preferences. Before then I didn't even have the toggles
Is this operator dependent or phone software. No idea how to add a module but should be able to figure that out.
Eggstones said:
I'm using OOS Oreo. I'm trying to remember what I did to get the toggles under sim preferences. Before then I didn't even have the toggles
Is this operator dependent or phone software. No idea how to add a module but should be able to figure that out.
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Adding the Toggles to Settings is the easy bit. It doesn't mean a thing as far as getting the functions working though. The ROM, and specifically the telephony parts of it, need to have all the necessary code added. We know that 3 can add the bits needed on phones where they have control over the software updates. Otherwise it's down to the Manufacturer/ROM.
You never know, OOS Pie might have this working natively. You could ask in the Community Beta thread to see if anyone there has any idea. Or wait a while longer until OOS Pie is in Stable channel. (I assume you don't want to try the Community Beta?)
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Adding the Toggles to Settings is the easy bit. It doesn't mean a thing as far as getting the functions working though. The ROM, and specifically the telephony parts of it, need to have all the necessary code added. We know that 3 can add the bits needed on phones where they have control over the software updates. Otherwise it's down to the Manufacturer/ROM.
You never know, OOS Pie might have this working natively. You could ask in the Community Beta thread to see if anyone there has any idea. Or wait a while longer until OOS Pie is in Stable channel. (I assume you don't want to try the Community Beta?)
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I might download it when I get back from my holiday. Don't want to mess with my phone when traveling.
I'm very much a novice when it comes to ROMs etc.
Downloaded the community build but no joy. No sign of wifi calling working.
Eggstones said:
Downloaded the community build but no joy. No sign of wifi calling working.
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I'm not surprised. I doubt it's high on their list of priorities. Especially as a lot of this stuff is carrier specific. They probably expect the carriers themselves to add the necessary modifications before the units get into the hands of customers, which is what happens most of the time. Except, Oneplus phones are usually bought off contract as nobody here offers them with contracts.
Eggstones said:
Thanks. I had a look on the other thread and couldn't see WiFi calling as an option despite being able to toggle it on. Can't remember what code I used.
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The provision toggle shows up now when I am back in the UK. Might try to install lineage to see if it helps.
Did you end up getting this to work on lineage? I'm having the same problem and the three in touch app has just stopped working for me.
This is on a op3 (not t)
welshyoot said:
Did you end up getting this to work on lineage? I'm having the same problem and the three in touch app has just stopped working for me.
This is on a op3 (not t)
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Haven't gotten around rooting and installing it. I have volte in most of the flat so the phone kinds works at home.
Fair enough, thanks for the reply. If I end up getting it working I'll report back
Tried to figure out how to instal lineage on my phone but I got stranded after installing ADB on my laptop. My problem is that most of the guides assumes that you know what you are doing in minute detail and therefore leave out quite a lot of steps. It also seems like you will lose all your data which means you need to back it up and to back it up you need to root the device which whips the data... Installing twrp seems also to wipe your data which is a bummer as you need that to do the backup of your phone.
As you can see I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't
Tried today to install lineage and I cannot say I'm impressed with the various guides I found. The lineage os wiki page omitted various steps such as which entry you needed to edit in the environment variables. There are several to choose from. Nor did it not mention that you need to enable unlocking the bootloader. Had to Google that to figure out how to get around that error
Installing twrp didn't work as it didn't recognise the file. Tried three different workarounds that didn't work. (File extension, dropping the twrp image onto the command window after typing the fastboot flash recovery line and moving the image to the desktop and the ADB folder.
Why do the people who write these guides assume you have extensive knowledge of installing ROMs instead of including all necessary steps. Needless to say, I failed to install lineage.
Rant over.
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Fair enough, thanks for the reply. If I end up getting it working I'll report back
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Any success? I have finally got lineage 16 on my phone but not been able to get WiFi calling working
No, ended up getting a new phone unfortunately.

NFC Payments broken?!

Hi,
Has anyone noticed that starting in late April, NFC based payments no longer work?! I wonder because other NFC usage works (e.g. Android Beam or simply reading various NFC tags or cards). I can't figure the exact date, but the last payment that I made with my phone was around 24 april, then it comes the april security update. And after 1 May I noticed that it simply don't work.
Regards
net4u said:
Hi,
Has anyone noticed that starting in late April, NFC based payments no longer work?! I wonder because other NFC usage works (e.g. Android Beam or simply reading various NFC tags or cards). I can't figure the exact date, but the last payment that I made with my phone was around 24 april, then it comes the april security update. And after 1 May I noticed that it simply don't work.
Regards
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I also have the april security patch, but i could still do a payment yesterday with the NFC of the phone.
So no problem for me.
Yes, Google Pay stopped working for me in mid-April, *but* before I installed the April security patch so that wasn't the cause for me. I was hoping the April patch might fix it but no joy. I've been checking here to see if anyone else had the same problem but this is the first report I've seen.
It's very annoying as I'd got very used to using it... as you say other NFC things are fine.
I've done all the usual tricks of uninstalling, wiping caches, trying an earlier version (it seemed to stop working after the Google Pay update was installed that was released on the 15th, so I thought that might help), etc. etc. but no joy at all. It just doesn't trigger.
Same problem, suddenly NFC doesn't work anymore. Weird thing I discovered is that it might work at that moment when I press the power button to switch display off. ... Strange
Using Magisk with it? Rooted device?
Ah, ok, maybe i wasn't clear enough.
For me it still works, but i do NOT use Google Pay, i use the app from our bank for NFC payments.
I think that i have read some time ago about problems with Google Pay, so maybe that is the case.
I also found out some time ago, that i have to have the lockscreen on-screen, otherwise i cannot do a payment.
So unlocking the phone makes payments impossible and screen-off is also a no-go.
But i suppose you guys already knew that.
xsycox said:
Using Magisk with it? Rooted device?
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Nope, pure stock (apart from most evenwell apps disabled for this user).
EDIT: Two threads about it now on the Nokia forum at https://community.phones.nokia.com/categories/nokia-7-plus
Fixed by uninstalling Google Pay
Just an FYI, I had my NFC issue resolved by uninstalling Google Pay. May help someone else.
I did not use Google Pay (since is not available in my country), but two tap and pay apps from two banks where I have accounts. Both have updates in april, and one of them tryied to became forced my default one without asking explicitly. But as I say: other NFC functions works: I can beam, I can read tags or cards.
I didn't use Google Pay as well, however, it seemed to interfere with my banking app (couldn't pay anymore) and access to buildings.
Nexustb said:
I didn't use Google Pay as well, however, it seemed to interfere with my banking app (couldn't pay anymore) and access to buildings.
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No, I mean since is not available in my country yet, I haven't it on my phone.
....and fixed in the latest version of Google Pay, released last week
It may be related to this: https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2019-2041 ?

EMUI 10 / Android 10, problem with Google Pay

Anyone else experienced problem with Google Pay after update?
It worked extremely well for me up until the update, then all of the sudden it doesn't work any more.
I checked the settings inside Google Pay, but all seems well. Card is registered and everything.
When holding my phone up to the terminal there is no reaction from the phone at all.
What can I do to fix this?
I have exactly the same, but with my normal banking app. It can also do payments via NFC, but when I hold it up to a terminal nothing happens like you said.
I'm now factory resetting my phone to see if that helps, I'll let you know!
Gfhoihoi72 said:
I have exactly the same, but with my normal banking app. It can also do payments via NFC, but when I hold it up to a terminal nothing happens like you said.
I'm now factory resetting my phone to see if that helps, I'll let you know!
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Thanks! Looking forward to your feedback if this works or not.
TordFuglstad said:
Thanks! Looking forward to your feedback if this works or not.
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Nope... Unfortunately not. Maybe I'll just downgrade to Android 9 and wait until a new patch for Android 10 comes out where they fix this.
No problems here, working as before
EnormoDerClown said:
No problems here, working as before
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What firmware version are you on?
I've downgraded to Android 9.1 and the mobile payment is working perfectly again, so it's definitely an issue with Android 10. So if you really want to use it, you can downgrade for now. Otherwise just wait for the next Android update and hope that it gets fixed.
Same here in France, Google Pay says Phone moved too fast.
Can pay with one other bank's app, but not the other one's. (both Georgian banks)
They did warn in changelog that some banking apps are not working due to their compatibility issues with Android 10, though
giosal said:
Same here in France, Google Pay says Phone moved too fast.
Can pay with one other bank's app, but not the other one's. (both Georgian banks)
They did warn in changelog that some banking apps are not working due to their compatibility issues with Android 10, though
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True, that changed the way apps can use your IMEI and this was the way most banking apps verified your phone. But my banking app should be compatible with Android 10 and it is working for some people but not for others.
Gfhoihoi72 said:
What firmware version are you on?
I've downgraded to Android 9.1 and the mobile payment is working perfectly again, so it's definitely an issue with Android 10. So if you really want to use it, you can downgrade for now. Otherwise just wait for the next Android update and hope that it gets fixed.
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10.0.0.168. "normal" update. Not a member of the beta or anything, just normal OTA. Working exactly as on Android 9. Also tested/used with different cards/institutes in google pay. Working like a charm
Same problem here, Google Pay worked perfectly in 9.1. Now, with 10.0.0.173 there's no response when near terminal. No error messages anywhere. NFC works fine, e.g. ReadID to read the NFC chip in my passport.
The same here, but I have a mate 20 pro. After the update to Android 10 I can no longer pay with Google pay.
From Germany
Updated yesterday and works fine for me in UK
So i better stop an update i am asked to update to 173 and stay on my 168 It is working for sure on 168 for me. Used it quite often
I solved the problem on my P30 Pro. I was using a "twin SIM" card from Ice (service provider). When I switched sim cards to my main SIM, Google pay works as before. The twin SIM worked fine with Android 9. I think the problem is that the twin SIM does not have the real phone number, but some long code that the phone system somehow recognizes, but causes issues in some scenarios e.g. iMessage on iPhone which cannot verify it. That's why I had the twin SIM in my P30 Pro.
EDIT: The iMessage problem is caused by the fact that only the main SIM receives "class 0" or flash SMSs, used for iMessage's verification.
I'm having the issue with my UK region VOG-L29 that's running .173. I rarely use Google pay, so I'm not sure if it was working before the upgrade. Google Pay works fine on my Fossil Wear OS watch that's tethered to the phone. NFC also seems to work fine when connecting my camera to the phone.
Have also the problem of nfc payments (with gpay and postfinance app) not working after updating to Android 10. Full reset didn't help currently on version 10.0. 0.173 and still not working.
Huawei support doesn't know anything about this and said I should wait for app updates and/or emui update.not very helpful...
Uninstalling gpay and deleting the cards linked to it and setup everything from scratch didn't help either. Nfc hardware seems to work as I can trigger my bt connection with my nfc enabled headset.
Hopefully Huawei sorts this out quickly as it is very annoying since I used nfc payment almost every day on emui 9.1
Any solution for this problem? I also used the ohone to pay and the point is that it is a big inconvenience that there is no solution
Waiting for Huawei to fix the damn bug in their next update (hopefully). Downgrading or resetting and so on is a pain when the affected phone is your daily driver.
Been using GPay already multiple times with 10.0.173.
No problems here in germany.
Regards
Same here!
Updated yesterday to EMUI 10 and realized today that I could'nt pay at the terminal. Bad situation without credit cards
Seems like NFC does not work at all. When I try to read my credit cards with NFC Tools, there is no reaction from phone as before.

Banking NCF stopped working with MIUI 12.0.3

I updated from 12.0.2 to 12.0.3 of MIUI recently and I now cannot pay by NFC with my banking app. My banking app doesn't use Google Pay and I don't have or want Google Pay so I can't try that.
I have checked that "Use HCE" wallet is set. Is there anythign I can do to get things working again?
Does no one have any suggestions on this at all?
@ludditefornow can you elaborate a bit what do you mean by "cannot pay by NFC" - what exactly happens when you place your phone near the terminal: is there any reaction (message) from the banking app or no reaction at all? Did you try to pay with the banking app open? Did you try disabling and re-enabling contactless payments in your banking app? In MIUI settings just below the option where you select "Use HCE" there's another option to select application for contactless payments - maybe the upgrade reset it to "Google Pay"?
I also have MIUI Global 12.0.3 (upgraded from 11.something) but didn't try paying by phone yet.
Thanks for the response. I have always paid with the banking app open. And have never had an issue.
Since 12.0.30 I have had two reactions from the 'pay wave' NFC payment terminals. Either they state that they can't read and throw up an error. or simply do nothing.
I have tried to disable and reenable contactless payments and no difference.
I have confirmed that Google Pay is not the default and that my banking app is. I have also confirmed that my banking app has NFC permissions.
I really have no idea. But I appreciate your reply.
For me (Global version) it's still working fine.
Never used my phone for contactless payments, so can't give specific advice, but a couple of simple questions to help troubleshoot.
Does NFC work at all? Can you communicate with other phones, e.g. can you send a photo to another phone using Nearby Share (or whatever name NFC sharing might be called on MIUI, if it's not the same)
How did you update MIUI? OTA or manually? If manually, did you flash the correct ROM? Because Indian MIUI versions don't have NFC functionality, as the physical device is missing on Indian phones.
Robbo.5000 said:
Never used my phone for contactless payments, so can't give specific advice, but a couple of simple questions to help troubleshoot.
Does NFC work at all? Can you communicate with other phones, e.g. can you send a photo to another phone using Nearby Share (or whatever name NFC sharing might be called on MIUI, if it's not the same)
How did you update MIUI? OTA or manually? If manually, did you flash the correct ROM? Because Indian MIUI versions don't have NFC functionality, as the physical device is missing on Indian phones.
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Thanks,
three different NFC checking apps return positive to NFC and HCE. There is no Android Beam and as far as I recall there never has been.
Updates always OTA. And the current ROM is global as is my phone.
I've completely uninstalled the app and reinstalled it and then added the card again. I will check it today and see the result.
Thanks for the assistance all.
Yesterday I paid successfully with my phone (as I mentioned - MIUI Global 12.0.3 upgraded from 11.something).
Interesting outcome (for me anyway).
After removing the credit card from the app and then deleting the app, I then reinstalled the app and added the card. This led to the NFC HCE function again working.
Another symptom that appeared at the same time on the update was that I could turn on airplane mode at the icon on the pull down draw on the home screen. I couldn't turn off the airplane mode in the same way. To turn off airplane mode I needed to do so with the slider in settings.
After HCE function started working again, my airplane mode on / off functionality came back as well.
I am just writing this here in case someone at sometime gets something similar and may have another option to try to repair it.

Question VPN not working

Anytime I try to enable the VPN on my P7, I get the message "VPN is disabled. Sign in or check your subscription status." Is there something special I have to do to enable the VPN? I have rooted my P7. Thanks.
Cpm0813 said:
Anytime I try to enable the VPN on my P7, I get the message "VPN is disabled. Sign in or check your subscription status." Is there something special I have to do to enable the VPN? I have rooted my P7. Thanks.
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You'll need subscription to VPN. It's not free for all countries i think
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You'll need subscription to VPN. It's not free for all countries i think
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I am in the US.
Cpm0813 said:
I am in the US.
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Maybe try deleting VPN from settings and setup again?
Cpm0813 said:
I am in the US.
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And you went through all the steps outlined? Specifically Google One benefits page? Perhaps someone else on the account is using the VPN meaning you will need to upgrade to use on multiple devices. It was a really straightforward setup. I'm also not sure how Google knows if you bought the phone or it's registered to someone else. You might want to give them a call or chat online to figure it out. It's not rocket science and one of the easier setups I've encountered.
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Cpm0813 said:
Anytime I try to enable the VPN on my P7, I get the message "VPN is disabled. Sign in or check your subscription status." Is there something special I have to do to enable the VPN? I have rooted my P7. Thanks.
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I had this exact issue.
I reboot resolved this for me
This same issue just started for me, the Google One VPN had previously worked without issue for me, but all of a sudden, I went to turn it on and I am getting the same "VPN is disabled" message. Tried rebooting, clearing cache, uninstall/reinstall of GoogleOne and still the issue persists. I wonder if this is a server side issue potentially with "subscription status" being recognized?
Same, mine stopped working. Same error. It apparently stopped working between 5 days ago and now (last connected) which I think was when I installed the January update.
EdIt: I uninstalled the Google One app and reinstalled, it said I needed to purchase a plan to use the VPN, then later it said it was free with Pixel 7 again and set up the VPN, but then still wouldn't connect (same error as before).
It worked for me on the beta version p7 until yesterday, I'm from outside the supported countries, maybe they blocked it?
Mine has never worked for me ever unfortunately. This is the way it has been since the VPN first became available to turn on in the Google One app.

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