TWRP, Root, CN vs EU...Confusion! - Xiaomi Mi MIX Questions & Answers

OK, I need some clarification please. I just ordered the phone on Swappa and will have it soon but I would like to have a plan in place for reaching my goal...A rooted phone with TWRP (don't know about what ROM yet)
I'm not sure what software will be on this phone when I get it (EU or Chinese stock/dev) but does that make a difference when attempting to put TWRP on the phone? Also, are there still 2 separate versions or is there just one now?
Also in regards to the initial root and TWRP procedure is it not possible to have SU zip on your phone beforehand or does it have to be transferred from your computer while in TWRP? Finally, the verity no opt encrypt zip must be flashed regardless of whether you are rooting or not? Many thanks for any and all help!

SantinoInc said:
I'm not sure what software will be on this phone when I get it (EU or Chinese stock/dev) but does that make a difference when attempting to put TWRP on the phone? Also, are there still 2 separate versions or is there just one now?
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Presently if you read max of the posts in major of the forums, you will find out there are three versions of ROM majorly (removing Chinese dev from the list as many don't seem to be on this) - If you are buying the phone from a reseller and not directly from xiaomi, mostly you will end up with Vendor ROM
1) Vendor ROM global (8.08.0 something version) which comes with very less bloatware and Google play services. Sometimes people said their bootloader was unlocked and for some its not. (mine was locked, so had to apply for unlock - It took 3 days to get the approval).
PLEASE NOTE THAT MANY TIMES THIS VENDOR ROM HAS A "NOTES APP" WITH TROJAN ON IT. MALWARE BYTES DETECTS THIS. HENCE I DECIDED TO GET OFF IT.
2) Chinese stable ROM - The official miui ROM. It has OTA updates but comes with bloatware and quite cumbersome to use for a non Chinese person like me or thats what I felt. If you really want to use Chinese stable (and still need google apps) there is a guide which is available some where in one of the forums, right now can't get hold of it somehow.
3) EU ROM (weekly updates - I believe to be done manually) - This one is so far the best I have used and very less bloatware (there is "Qunar travel" and one Chinese app that came with it. I simply uninstalled them blindly). Comes with google play services and you can download the rest from google store.
My journey so far is Vendor ROM --> Chinese Stable --> EU ROM (Non-root)
Why i didn't go directly from Vendor ROM to EU ROM is because
1) some of the users had issues with TWRP's touch non-responsiveness.
2) I want to see what is there on Chinese Stable before going to EU ROM, so that I can do a comparison.
For Vendor ROM to Chinese Stable use the guide below (by @satishp)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/how-to/kindly-help-flashing-to-china-stable-t3528652
For Chinese Stable (or if you want to try from Vendor ROM directly to EU ROM) to EU ROM use the guide below (by @underlines)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/how-to/guide-flash-global-china-rom-root-gapps-t3510592
Following the steps exactly in the above two guides, I was able to install EU ROM without any issues.
SantinoInc said:
Also in regards to the initial root and TWRP procedure is it not possible to have SU zip on your phone beforehand or does it have to be transferred from your computer while in TWRP?
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When you enable developer options on your phone and enable USB debugging, then I believe when you connect your phone to laptop/desktop it should connect using MTP and should be seen as device. So I guess you can copy the zip before hand on to the phone.
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Finally, the verity no opt encrypt zip must be flashed regardless of whether you are rooting or not? Many thanks for any and all help!
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All the guides mention that whenever you want to install the EU ROM without root, the dm-verity is compulsory to flash before reboot.
Hope this helps!!. Enjoy your MIX.

thehearty said:
Presently if you read max of the posts in major of the forums, you will find out there are three versions of ROM majorly (removing Chinese dev from the list as many don't seem to be on this) - If you are buying the phone from a reseller and not directly from xiaomi, mostly you will end up with Vendor ROM
1) Vendor ROM global (8.08.0 something version) which comes with very less bloatware and Google play services. Sometimes people said their bootloader was unlocked and for some its not. (mine was locked, so had to apply for unlock - It took 3 days to get the approval).
PLEASE NOTE THAT MANY TIMES THIS VENDOR ROM HAS A "NOTES APP" WITH TROJAN ON IT. MALWARE BYTES DETECTS THIS. HENCE I DECIDED TO GET OFF IT.
2) Chinese stable ROM - The official miui ROM. It has OTA updates but comes with bloatware and quite cumbersome to use for a non Chinese person like me or thats what I felt. If you really want to use Chinese stable (and still need google apps) there is a guide which is available some where in one of the forums, right now can't get hold of it somehow.
3) EU ROM (weekly updates - I believe to be done manually) - This one is so far the best I have used and very less bloatware (there is "Qunar travel" and one Chinese app that came with it. I simply uninstalled them blindly). Comes with google play services and you can download the rest from google store.
My journey so far is Vendor ROM --> Chinese Stable --> EU ROM (Non-root)
Why i didn't go directly from Vendor ROM to EU ROM is because
1) some of the users had issues with TWRP's touch non-responsiveness.
2) I want to see what is there on Chinese Stable before going to EU ROM, so that I can do a comparison.
For Vendor ROM to Chinese Stable use the guide below (by @satishp)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/how-to/kindly-help-flashing-to-china-stable-t3528652
For Chinese Stable (or if you want to try from Vendor ROM directly to EU ROM) to EU ROM use the guide below (by @underlines)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/how-to/guide-flash-global-china-rom-root-gapps-t3510592
Following the steps exactly in the above two guides, I was able to install EU ROM without any issues.
When you enable developer options on your phone and enable USB debugging, then I believe when you connect your phone to laptop/desktop it should connect using MTP and should be seen as device. So I guess you can copy the zip before hand on to the phone.
All the guides mention that whenever you want to install the EU ROM with/without root, the dm-verity is compulsory to flash before reboot.
Hope this helps!!. Enjoy your MIX.
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Wow, thank you so much for that very thorough answer! I will be getting the phone tomorrow and my goal will be to get the EU Rom on my phone with TWRP and Xposed.
One more small question. So if I happen to get the touch screen freeze (in TWRP or after system reboot) how do you recover from this situation?

SantinoInc said:
One more small question. So if I happen to get the touch screen freeze (in TWRP or after system reboot) how do you recover from this situation?
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I believe you have to go to Chinese Stable then using MiFlash or install one more version of TWRP which is compatible with Chinese ROM and then other steps. (one of the guides mentions these too)
But my suggestion is simply follow the steps in both the guides, go to chinese stable and then to EU ROM. Its worth the 15 min extra effort as surely i can tell this will not have problems and I believe you can definitely got to root/xposed too finally.
There is a small typo in my previous answer (I corrected it now). Sincere apologies for the same.
Dm-verity is not needed if you are going to root. If you flash to EU ROM and don't want root, then install dm-verity. This is as per the guide mentioned in my last answer.
Hope this helps.

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First Things To Do After Getting My Mi Mix?

Just found out that I have a Mi Mix waiting for me when I get home. I've made a checklist of what I want to do to it to get it setup for my use. I wanted to know if anyone had anything to add or has done any of what I'm planning on.
Unlock Bootloader
This should be relatively simple. I already have my unlock permission and will be using the directions from here: http://en.miui.com/thread-202290-1-1.html
As far as I can tell by reading that thread, I do not need to install the developer ROM first. Is this correct?
I will also follow the top reply to this thread which mentions linking your device to your Mi account before unlocking to prevent errors: https://m.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/5co8t1/mi_unlock_approval/​
Install TWRP
My plan is to follow these instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/development/recovery-official-twrp-xiaomi-mi-mix-t3498960
This is where I start having questions. I've been out of the rooting and ROMing game for a couple of years. Does anyone recommend rooting with anything other than SuperSU? I'm reading that it was bought by a Chinese company and shouldn't be trusted. I've also read that using Magisk you can have root that is easily turned off. I'll admit I'm pretty lost at the moment when it comes to what Magisk does and how to use it. But if it is the recommended way of doing things I will do the research to learn it.​
Flash The EU ROM
I think my plan is to flash this EU ROM which debloats everything and seems to come with gapps and a lot of other nice optimizations: https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/6-11-10.36056/
My first question is has anyone tried this?
My second question is will I need to reinstall TWRP and re-root? I think I will have to re-TWRP because on the TWRP page there is one version for stock and one for the EU version. I will be on stock first and I can't flash EU until after I flash TWRP. So I think the procedure will have to be:
Flash stock TWRP
Flash EU ROM
Flash EU TWRP
Re-Root?
Turn Off All Battery Optimizations
Don't have a guide for this yet but I'm guessing it's not hard to find. Feel free to reply with one if you have one.​
Personalize
Launchers/Themes/Icon Packs/etc. Don't need suggestions here since I already know what I have in mind.​
Anything else?
The only other thing I can think of that I might want to install is Xposed. I've never used it and don't know how to install it but I'll learn if I can be convinced that it's something I want.
What else am I missing?​
I think right now the biggest thing I'm curious about is if anyone has used the EU ROM and what the procedure is if you use that ROM since there are 2 different versions of TWRP for the Mi Mix. But any other suggestions on what to do with the initial setup or how to make my experience better are welcome. I'd also love to hear about any "gotchas" that aren't mentioned in the guides from people who have actually done it.
Well I took the plunge without waiting for feedback and for anyone who is interested, I'll answer my own questions. Read the posts that I linked in the OP to understand what I'm doing below. I will not cover how to get unlock permission as this has been covered elsewhere.
Unlock Bootloader
As far as I can tell by reading that thread, I do not need to install the developer ROM first. Is this correct?
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This is not correct. You must install the Dev ROM and connect to WiFi and follow the steps to enable Developer options and login to your Mi account in developer options.​
Install TWRP
Before installing TWRP you must update back to the stable ROM. The non-EU version of TWRP will not work with the Dev ROM as of this posting. You can update to the stable ROM using the same steps as updating to the developer ROM. In the TWRP install guide I linked above, I stopped right after step 6 and continued below.​
Flash the EU ROM
Instead of flashing SuperSU after installing TWRP, I copied over the EU ROM linked above and flashed that. Then I followed the instructions starting from step 3 of this post to flash SuperSU, Magisk, and suhide: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemongod...k_v7_systemless_xposed_v866_released/d8d7ziw/
The only change I made is that in between steps 4 and 5, I flashed the EU version of TWRP before continuing because otherwise the touchscreen would not work in TWRP. I used the most recent versions for the SuperSU, Magisk, and suhide and I did not flash Xposed yet but I believe I can do that in the future if I want to.​
That's where I'm at now. The rest of my checklist was mostly personal preference so I won't go into that. Hope this helps.
@chimera533
THX for taking the plunge & sharing your results with us.
I'm sure I'll be doing the same once mine arrives, hope you don't mind if I look this way if I have any questions regarding TWRP/Root/etc.....
Thank you for posting this, this is the exact list of what I will be doing when my Mi Mix comes in the mail (C'mon Ibuygou).
I couldn't seem to find a EU rom for Mi mix though it is listed in the thread as a supported drive. Will you please drop me the link to download? Thank you.
jim380 said:
I couldn't seem to find a EU rom for Mi mix though it is listed in the thread as a supported drive. Will you please drop me the link to download? Thank you.
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I think I got mine from here: https://megadysk.pl/f/6.11.10
Just scroll down to the Mi Mix one.
There are 3 repositories to the 6.11.10 weekly ROMs at the top of the page here: https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/6-11-10.36056/
As far as I know there are no stable EU builds for the Mi Mix probably because it's so new.
Also I believe the weekly updates show up here: https://xiaomi.eu/community/forums/miui-weekly-rom-releases.103/
The Mi Mix was skipped for 6.11.17 as evidenced by the note at the top of the 6.11.17 thread.
That's about all I know. I highly recommend reading all or most of every link I posted here. I'll confess that if I had, I would've known things like having to flash back to stable before TWRP-ing as well as some other things.
It would be nice if you did an edit of your original post, rather than a 'by the way' post below it. It would be much easier to follow the instructions.
I've installed TWRP on multiple phones. The dm-verity stuff is new to me (A xiaomi/MIUI thing I guess),
so the sequence appears to be:
install Official MIUI China developer ROM
<unlock>
install Official stable rom
install Official (Non-EU) TWRP (requires stable)
copy/install EU ROM after step 6 (aka before exiting TWRP)
< Do you reboot now and go back into fastload now? or stay inside TWRP? >
Install EU TWRP
install supersu (again, before you exit TWRP?)
Install Magisk, suhide?
Apologies but I'm away from home at the moment. I'll update the OP with more detail when I have a bit more time. But I'll give you some quick answers below.
install Official MIUI China developer ROM
Remember to log in to your Mi account in the developer options
<unlock>
install Official stable rom
install Official (Non-EU) TWRP (requires stable)
copy/install EU ROM after step 6 (aka before exiting TWRP)
While still in TWRP, install SuperSU in systemless mode.
Boot to system once
Boot back to fastboot and install EU TWRP
Boot to TWRP and install Magisk, suhide
Boot to system and install magisk manager
Got the Mi Mix 128GB overpriced in Thailand, but without any waiting time.
Love your early thread, very helpful.
I also want to get twrp, suhide, magisk and xposed, but I like to stay on the Chinese Dev or official ROM, not xiaomi.eu, because I like the paid themes which are only available on official ROMs.
I've got a MIUI developer account for 4 years, so I can unlock the device directly, being on stable ROM.
Now the steps are a bit unclear for me. Do I understand them correctly?
1. Unlock bootloader
Download and install the developer rom: http://en.miui.com/download-317.html
Create/Login with your MI Account on the device.
Apply for unlocking the bootloader here: http://en.miui.com/unlock/
Install stable ROM if desired
2. Install official TWRP (NON-EU)
Boot into fastboot mode by turning off your device then pressing volume up and power button
Install Minimal ADB and Fastboot on your PC: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790
Download the correct TWRP image file: https://dl.twrp.me/lithium/twrp-3.0.2-0-lithium.img.html
Copy the twrp file to where minimal adb and fastboot has been installed and rename the twrp file to twrp.img
Open fastboot on your computer and type:
Code:
fastboot flash recovery twrp.img
Code:
fastboot reboot
3. Install SuperSU in systemless mode
Download newest SuperSU: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.supersu / http://download.chainfire.eu/1013/SuperSU/SR4-SuperSU-v2.78-SR4-20161115184928.zip
In ADB shell or TWRP shell, type
Code:
echo SYSTEMLESS=true > /data/.supersu
if you don't already have this file to configure SuperSU to install in systemless mode.
Flash SuperSU.
4. Boot to system
5. Boot into TWRP, install Magisk, suhide, Xposed
suhide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/suhide-t3450396
systemless xposed 86.2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3897543&d=1475913773
magisk: http://tiny.cc/latestmagisk
6. Boot to system and install Magistk Manager
magisk manager: http://tiny.cc/latestmanager
7. Install XPosed
chimera533 said:
I think I got mine from here: https://megadysk.pl/f/6.11.10
Just scroll down to the Mi Mix one.
There are 3 repositories to the 6.11.10 weekly ROMs at the top of the page here: https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/6-11-10.36056/
As far as I know there are no stable EU builds for the Mi Mix probably because it's so new.
Also I believe the weekly updates show up here: https://xiaomi.eu/community/forums/miui-weekly-rom-releases.103/
The Mi Mix was skipped for 6.11.17 as evidenced by the note at the top of the 6.11.17 thread.
That's about all I know. I highly recommend reading all or most of every link I posted here. I'll confess that if I had, I would've known things like having to flash back to stable before TWRP-ing as well as some other things.
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Thank you so much for your help. I installed the ROM and have had it running for 2 days now. Coming from a HTC 10 (custom ROMed and everything), I;m really not digging MIUI on this phone. Lags so much it's literally driving me crazy. My 2 yrs old LG G2, which also has amazing screen-to-body ratio btw, runs circle around this phone. Really disappointed about this phone due to the software performance issues.
jim380 said:
Thank you so much for your help. I installed the ROM and have had it running for 2 days now. Coming from a HTC 10 (custom ROMed and everything), I;m really not digging MIUI on this phone. Lags so much it's literally driving me crazy. My 2 yrs old LG G2, which also has amazing screen-to-body ratio btw, runs circle around this phone. Really disappointed about this phone due to the software performance issues.
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I don't experience any lags on the original ROM.
From my experience those micro-lags and performance issuese showed up on various devices in my Android past whenever something was wrong with the ROM. A clean flash mostly helped solve the problem.
I'm currently on the original Chinese stable with SuperSu and TWRP. It's blazing fast. What's the reason to flash the xiaomi.eu rom?
underlines said:
I don't experience any lags on the original ROM.
From my experience those micro-lags and performance issuese showed up on various devices in my Android past whenever something was wrong with the ROM. A clean flash mostly helped solve the problem.
I'm currently on the original Chinese stable with SuperSu and TWRP. It's blazing fast. What's the reason to flash the xiaomi.eu rom?
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I had a nightmare trying to get to the EU Rom yesterday, I was mostly successful, however after a reboot i'd lose Touch in both TWRP and System. Thanks to this post from Chimera533 I was finally able to do it!
Anyway the main reason for the EU ROM is to get rid of all the Bloat and Chinese throughout the ROM that you cannot get rid of. It also has Google Services baked in properly so everything works correctly.
I also had a few other little niggles while on the Chinese ROM :-
Purchases from Google Play Movies wouldn't work
No Smart Lock while connected to Android Wear
No way to replace BAIDU and set Google as the search
So far i'm loving the EU Rom, i've not seen any lag at all while using it and pretty much everything seems to work exactly as it should - it has enhanced the MIX experience so much for me - love this thing!
Guys, how do I disable all battery saving optimizations / memory management optimzations? My background apps keep shutting automatically off after a while.
I'm on the default ROM without root (still waiting for developer approval)...
yakuzlin said:
Guys, how do I disable all battery saving optimizations / memory management optimzations? My background apps keep shutting automatically off after a while.
I'm on the default ROM without root (still waiting for developer approval)...
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Go to the battery section & have a look around, you should find several settings for battery management.
You're gonna need root & an app such as Titanium Backup Pro, or, SD Maid Pro to disable a lot of the MIUI & Cheetah Mobile applications.
Fine tuning on a per app basis isn't enough (do not optimize battery savings for the apps you want to work properly, notifications, messaging, etc) .....
I highly recommend flashing the EU ROM, it seems to have better memory management than the Global ROM, but, you'll still need to disable a lot of the MIUI apps & all of the Cheetah Mobile s***ware to get memory management more to what you're used to experiencing.
One other item, go to Developer Options & disable MIUI Optimization, it should be the last item or close to it....

will an unlocked bootloader cause updates to fail? any help would be appreciated.

Hi All,
I hope I am asking in the right area and forgive me if I havent.
I have a Mi Mix 128gb running Niui Global 8.0 Stable 8.0.7.0.0 MAHCNDI which I believe is a vendor rom? I try to go into updates as I see on the MIUI website there is a version 8.0.10.0. and I would like to update to that.
-I tried the update button where it takes a few seconds saying checking and comes back with no updates available.
-I then tried the choose update package in the update app and chose the rom I moved onto the phone (not in a folder as specified) and it says getting info and then comes back 'couldnt verify update package'.
-I then tried the reboot to recovery mode and named the rom 'update.zip' as specified and all I got when I tried to enter reboot to recovery mode from the actual update app was a black screen wth a phone and a cord plugged in and a website address, no graphical selection tool where I was able to select using volume up and down etc.
I had read somewhere it could be due to the fact that when the vendor flashed the global rom they may have left the bootloader unlocked and that is why the phone isnt finding the update or running it from the file on the phone.
Does this make any sense or am I just missing everything and doing something wrong?
If it is the unlocked can I lock it again to so that I am able to update.
I did try the other thread on verifying the bootloader and how to type in the command to relock it but I wasnt able to use the ADB as I am not all together familiar on how to use it.
If anyone out there can give me a hand I would be forever grateful and I would ask that if you can help that it be as detailed as possible as I need all the help I can get
Thanks so much in advance
Dis you get your Mi Mix from a vendor who loaded Gapps for you? I think that 8.0.7.0.0 is a vendor ROM, not the CN Stable or EU Stable ROM.
I suggest you find the ROM guideline thread here and update to the CN or EU Stable ROM
Best
J
It is definitely a vendor rom. To begin with, this phone has no Official Global rom yet. It states it is a global rom but in the Rom name it contains the letter CN, which identifies the rom as the chinese rom. Therefor yes, it is a vendor rom.
I don't have the phone yet so take my advice with a grain of salt, but i'm pretty sure that an unlocked bootloader does not interfere with installing roms/getting ota updates etc. Sorry, with an unlocked bootloader you can't get OTA updates. But you've got a vendor rom so you wouldn't be able to get one in the first place even with a locked bootloader.
I think that if your bootloader is really unlocked, the fastest and easiest way to flash the newest rom would be by using the MiFlash program from Xiaomi. Here's a guide for that:
http://en.miui.com/thread-307744-1-1.html
(Method 3, Step 2)
Let me know if you managed to flash it.
Blackphantom said:
It is definitely a vendor rom. To begin with, this phone has no Official Global rom yet. It states it is a global rom but in the Rom name it contains the letter CN, which identifies the rom as the chinese rom. Therefor yes, it is a vendor rom.
I don't have the phone yet so take my advice with a grain of salt, but i'm pretty sure that an unlocked bootloader does not interfere with installing roms/getting ota updates etc. Sorry, with an unlocked bootloader you can't get OTA updates. But you've got a vendor rom so you wouldn't be able to get one in the first place even with a locked bootloader.
I think that if your bootloader is really unlocked, the fastest and easiest way to flash the newest rom would be by using the MiFlash program from Xiaomi. Here's a guide for that:
http://en.miui.com/thread-307744-1-1.html
(Method 3, Step 2)
Let me know if you managed to flash it.
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Thanks very much for help. I managed to flash it to the official Chinese rom but now things like the proximity sensor isnt working and a few other things. Still cant get the google movies to download or play either so I will try your guide....will let you know how it goes.
Thanks again!
imapfsr said:
Thanks very much for help. I managed to flash it to the official Chinese rom but now things like the proximity sensor isnt working and a few other things. Still cant get the google movies to download or play either so I will try your guide....will let you know how it goes.
Thanks again!
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If by "google movies" you're referring to movies downloaded from google play, then make sure you disable download manager in the Miui appstore settings. It connects to a chinese proxy and therefor is buggy and really slow.
Thanks to everyone on this forum as I now have a EU rom running on my mix and everything is working. I can download and watch movies from Google Play, I can watch and download Netflix and Google Contacts (the app not sync) now installs and works. Now this is the phone I wanted it to be and I am thrilled.
Thanks again
imapfsr said:
Thanks to everyone on this forum as I now have a EU rom running on my mix and everything is working. I can download and watch movies from Google Play, I can watch and download Netflix and Google Contacts (the app not sync) now installs and works. Now this is the phone I wanted it to be and I am thrilled.
Thanks again
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Glad to hear that it worked out for you.
imapfsr said:
Thanks to everyone on this forum as I now have a EU rom running on my mix and everything is working. I can download and watch movies from Google Play, I can watch and download Netflix and Google Contacts (the app not sync) now installs and works. Now this is the phone I wanted it to be and I am thrilled.
Thanks again
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I would like to know how did you do it, because I need to do the same
TIA
stevm said:
I would like to know how did you do it, because I need to do the same
TIA
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Just follow the directions here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/development/recovery-official-twrp-xiaomi-mi-mix-t3498960
And you shouldn't have any issues.
Did your phone come with the Global 8.0 Stable 8.0.7.0.0 MAHCNDI s that is what mine started with and the only issue was that I had to use the ADL mode to get the phone to recognize and take the TWRP so I could get the EU rom working. Been using it for a few days now and no issues whatsoever. Good luck!

Xiaomi Mi5 Prime .RAW and FAKE ROM removing

Hello, I own Xiaomi Mi5 Prime, is it possible to make it capture images in .RAW format, if yes, whats the way? Thanks!
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Hello, I own Xiaomi Mi5 Prime, is it possible to make it capture images in .RAW format, if yes, whats the way? Thanks!
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Try some 3rd part app like Footej Camera (should be free to check if RAW is available) or other camera apps like (manual camera, proshot etc.) to see if it has RAW support.
RAW option is available in Footej Camera in My Mi5 prime with RR rom. The last MIUI version (Xiaomi.eu version) that I checked also passed the manual camera compatibility test which should mean that rom will support RAW too and have camera2 api enabled. Newer Global rom probably have camera2 api enabled too.
LineageOS also have camera2 api and RAW support (most probably).
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Try some 3rd part app like Footej Camera (should be free to check if RAW is available) or other camera apps like (manual camera, proshot etc.) to see if it has RAW support.
RAW option is available in Footej Camera in My Mi5 prime with RR rom. The last MIUI version (Xiaomi.eu version) that I checked also passed the manual camera compatibility test which should mean that rom will support RAW too and have camera2 api enabled. Newer Global rom probably have camera2 api enabled too.
LineageOS also have camera2 api and RAW support (most probably).
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Im using MIUI Global 7.2.8.0.0(MAACNBD) | Stable ROM
My Mi5P doesn't pass the Manual camera compatibility test... aaannnd there is no option in Footej Camera for raw just the quality of the JPEG.
Which MIUI rom should I flash for RAW support?
Also I want to ask about the updater app, looks like it can't connect with network its version 3.0.0 is there update or something ?
Thanks.
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Im using MIUI Global 7.2.8.0.0(MAACNBD) | Stable ROM
My Mi5P doesn't pass the Manual camera compatibility test... aaannnd there is no option in Footej Camera for raw just the quality of the JPEG.
Which MIUI rom should I flash for RAW support?
Also I want to ask about the updater app, looks like it can't connect with network its version 3.0.0 is there update or something ?
Thanks.
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Firstly you seem to be having a very old global rom. So you may need to update it.
If you click the the dots in footej camera you will get options like grid, white balance, single photo etc in the viewfinder.
If you click the single photo option you will get options for HDR, RAW, Burst mode.....
But I doubt you will get RAW support without the camera 2 api enabled (if it is enabled footej camera should also 'show' shutter speed and ISO in viewfinder by default.
But other than the camera thing, I have another major concern for your rom.
I am not sure, but I suspect that you have a 'fake ROM' or 'vendor ROM'.
"h t t p: //xiaomit ips.com/guide/how-to-spot-fake-miui-rom-on-your-phone/" (can't post links yet. Remove quotes and spaces to use the link)
You have more than 4 digits for the version apparently.
It is advisable to get rid of the fake rom as soon as possible....generally they are full of bugs..and may even have adwares and malwares with worse performace. And yes having a fake rom is probably the reason why you have no OTA yet....(not a network problem but a rom problem). Do your research and if you can confirm you are having a fake rom getting rid of it should be your first priority.
I was lucky to have a official global rom from the start, so I can't advise you on how to get rid of it from my own experience.
However I had this link bookmarked as I was expecting I will recieve a fake rom:
"h t t p : //en. miui .com/thread-309122-1-1.html" (can't post links yet. Remove quotes and spaces to use the link)
It seems to list some possible ways to remove the fake rom from least risky to most risky method. Most risky method should still be fine if you are flashing the proper rom, I guess.
EDL is often the recommended method for totally getting rid of it...but after a certain version Xiaomi blocked EDL or something.
Assuming your bootloader is locked, you can request for Mi unlock by explaining your situation and then fastboot flash your rom with the latest global beta (or stable) or you may be able to put twrp and flash Xiaomi.eu version of the rom (which is a bloatfree translated chinese version of miui....which is quite stable..)
JRC1995 said:
Firstly you seem to be having a very old global rom. So you may need to update it.
If you click the the dots in footej camera you will get options like grid, white balance, single photo etc in the viewfinder.
If you click the single photo option you will get options for HDR, RAW, Burst mode.....
But I doubt you will get RAW support without the camera 2 api enabled (if it is enabled footej camera should also 'show' shutter speed and ISO in viewfinder by default.
But other than the camera thing, I have another major concern for your rom.
I am not sure, but I suspect that you have a 'fake ROM' or 'vendor ROM'.
"h t t p: //xiaomit ips.com/guide/how-to-spot-fake-miui-rom-on-your-phone/" (can't post links yet. Remove quotes and spaces to use the link)
You have more than 4 digits for the version apparently.
It is advisable to get rid of the fake rom as soon as possible....generally they are full of bugs..and may even have adwares and malwares with worse performace. And yes having a fake rom is probably the reason why you have no OTA yet....(not a network problem but a rom problem). Do your research and if you can confirm you are having a fake rom getting rid of it should be your first priority.
I was lucky to have a official global rom from the start, so I can't advise you on how to get rid of it from my own experience.
However I had this link bookmarked as I was expecting I will recieve a fake rom:
"h t t p : //en. miui .com/thread-309122-1-1.html" (can't post links yet. Remove quotes and spaces to use the link)
It seems to list some possible ways to remove the fake rom from least risky to most risky method. Most risky method should still be fine if you are flashing the proper rom, I guess.
EDL is often the recommended method for totally getting rid of it...but after a certain version Xiaomi blocked EDL or something.
Assuming your bootloader is locked, you can request for Mi unlock by explaining your situation and then fastboot flash your rom with the latest global beta (or stable) or you may be able to put twrp and flash Xiaomi.eu version of the rom (which is a bloatfree translated chinese version of miui....which is quite stable..)
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Whoa.. I didn't know that.. looks like mine is fake....
They say "Please note that the new MIUI versions (7.3.X.X and above) today already blocking this method (EDL), but if you have the old version you can use it."
Mine is 7.2 so I guess it's not locked right ?
Can you provide me the best step by step tutorial how to completely remove that fake stuff and install a brand new global stable MIUI rom ?
EDL
Thanks
pi4a7a said:
Whoa.. I didn't know that.. looks like mine is fake....
Can you provide me a step by step tutorial how to completely remove that fake stuff and install a brand new global stable MIUI rom ?
Thanks
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Follow the 2nd link : "http://en.miui.com/thread-309122-1-1.html"
They have done a good job arranging the possible options along with links to other threads and tutorials necessary for this process.
Sorry, I am not too experienced myself regarding removal of a fake rom. I can help you with specific things like how to unlock bootloader or stuffs but totally getting rid of fake rom can be a complex process and many options and method may be needed to be tried.
First just try to do the simplest possible thing:
0) Backup all data if you need to. Pics, contacts stuffs....
1) Go to miui forum and download the latest China Dev Recovery rom. (It should have english language as an option but no
gapps). ("http://en.miui.com/download-299.html#435") (you may also try the Global beta\stable roms)
2) Rename the downloaded rom to "update.zip" and put it in your phone.
3) Open updater app. Go to menu (three dots or something...) ->choose update package -> then choose the update.zip.
4) The app should try to verify the package and update to it.
5) If update is successfully done check about and see if the version number looks real.
If you happen to have successful then you have removed the fake rom. At this stage you may already have RAW support and more. But if you used the China Dev Rom, you may want to use the Global rom or custom roms for which you have to unlock bootloader. If you have somehow successfully updated to the official global beta\stable rom and don't want to root or try custom rom then no need to do anything.
Note you may first try the above steps using the latest global dev\stable rom and then if it fails, next try to us china dev\stable rom. I think there is a higher chance for china dev\stable rom to work successfully because fake roms are usually based on the china rom.
To unlock bootloader.
1) Make sure you have an MI account at miui forum...and also you must sign in with the same account in your phone. Your account and device should be connected. ALso make sure your MI\MIUI account has proper details like Name, Phone Number etc.
(Also it's better if you keep your name free of spaces).
2) Unlock developer mode. Search google on how to unlock developer settings in miui if you need to.
3) Go to developer settings (probably it will appear inside additional settings)> enable usb debugging and other usb related settings)
4) Enable "allow OEM bootloader unlock" (may not be exactly written like that, currently not in miui so I can't mention the option in exact terms) if the option is there.
5) I think in developer settings there was an option to check lock status of phone....and inside the option there is a button to associate the phone with mi account..do it. (may not be necessary, but just to be safe).
6) Then apply for unlock permission here: http://en.miui.com/unlock/
Note: Your name should be without spaces while filling up.
If you encounter warnings in chinese , use google translate or something. I was warned in chinese about my image verfiication
captcha error.
There you have to explain why you need to unlock bootloader. Clearly explain your need regarding why (it may be because you are still stuck in fake rom and you want to remove it or if you are already in official china rom you can explain that you want to shift to global rom).
7) Wait for the msg. They (Xiaomi) should message to your phone (the no. which is registered to your mi account) regarding if they have accepted your request and granted you unlock permission. After that they will provide the link to download the unlock tool and a code.
8) Connect your phone to computer after entering fastboot mode (power off your phone then hold volumn down+power button until you see the fastboot screen). Then just use the mi unlock tool that you will recieve and follow the instructions to unlock the phone. (for more details you may google on how to use mi unlock tool to unlock bootloader or something).
Once you have unlocked bootloader:
You can have several options. You may shift to global dev rom (download the fastboot rom for your device and use the mi flashing tool. "http://en.miui.com/a-234.html". Google for more details)
NOTE: Be careful following this steps. I won't be responsible if your device is bricked. I may have overlooked certain things so consider my instructions merely as a summary. Do check the links for details. Also even if the miui thread about unlocking bootloader suggest one to use china dev rom for unlocking, I have unlocked my bootloader from global beta rom and global stable rom may work too.
You may install twrp and then flash Xiaomi.eu (China versions of MIUI made bloatfree with more languages and necessary gapps like google play store and services) or you can try custom roms like Resurrection Remix, Lineage OS etc. All of them should have camera 2 api support, at least.
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pi4a7a said:
Whoa.. I didn't know that.. looks like mine is fake....
They say "Please note that the new MIUI versions (7.3.X.X and above) today already blocking this method (EDL), but if you have the old version you can use it."
Mine is 7.2 so I guess it's not locked right ?
Can you provide me the best step by step tutorial how to completely remove that fake stuff and install a brand new global stable MIUI rom ?
EDL
Thanks
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Apparently yes, you might be able to attempt EDL. However, I have no experience in that regards. You have to google it.
JRC1995 said:
Follow the 2nd link : "http://en.miui.com/thread-309122-1-1.html"
They have done a good job arranging the possible options along with links to other threads and tutorials necessary for this process.
Sorry, I am not too experienced myself regarding removal of a fake rom. I can help you with specific things like how to unlock bootloader or stuffs but totally getting rid of fake rom can be a complex process and many options and method may be needed to be tried.
First just try to do the simplest possible thing:
0) Backup all data if you need to. Pics, contacts stuffs....
1) Go to miui forum and download the latest China Dev Recovery rom. (It should have english language as an option but no
gapps). ("http://en.miui.com/download-299.html#435") (you may also try the Global beta\stable roms)
2) Rename the downloaded rom to "update.zip" and put it in your phone.
3) Open updater app. Go to menu (three dots or something...) ->choose update package -> then choose the update.zip.
4) The app should try to verify the package and update to it.
5) If update is successfully done check about and see if the version number looks real.
If you happen to have successful then you have removed the fake rom. At this stage you may already have RAW support and more. But if you used the China Dev Rom, you may want to use the Global rom or custom roms for which you have to unlock bootloader. If you have somehow successfully updated to the official global beta\stable rom and don't want to root or try custom rom then no need to do anything.
Note you may first try the above steps using the latest global dev\stable rom and then if it fails, next try to us china dev\stable rom. I think there is a higher chance for china dev\stable rom to work successfully because fake roms are usually based on the china rom.
To unlock bootloader.
1) Make sure you have an MI account at miui forum...and also you must sign in with the same account in your phone. Your account and device should be connected. ALso make sure your MI\MIUI account has proper details like Name, Phone Number etc.
(Also it's better if you keep your name free of spaces).
2) Unlock developer mode. Search google on how to unlock developer settings in miui if you need to.
3) Go to developer settings (probably it will appear inside additional settings)> enable usb debugging and other usb related settings)
4) Enable "allow OEM bootloader unlock" (may not be exactly written like that, currently not in miui so I can't mention the option in exact terms) if the option is there.
5) I think in developer settings there was an option to check lock status of phone....and inside the option there is a button to associate the phone with mi account..do it. (may not be necessary, but just to be safe).
6) Then apply for unlock permission here: http://en.miui.com/unlock/
Note: Your name should be without spaces while filling up.
If you encounter warnings in chinese , use google translate or something. I was warned in chinese about my image verfiication
captcha error.
There you have to explain why you need to unlock bootloader. Clearly explain your need regarding why (it may be because you are still stuck in fake rom and you want to remove it or if you are already in official china rom you can explain that you want to shift to global rom).
7) Wait for the msg. They (Xiaomi) should message to your phone (the no. which is registered to your mi account) regarding if they have accepted your request and granted you unlock permission. After that they will provide the link to download the unlock tool and a code.
8) Connect your phone to computer after entering fastboot mode (power off your phone then hold volumn down+power button until you see the fastboot screen). Then just use the mi unlock tool that you will recieve and follow the instructions to unlock the phone. (for more details you may google on how to use mi unlock tool to unlock bootloader or something).
Once you have unlocked bootloader:
You can have several options. You may shift to global dev rom (download the fastboot rom for your device and use the mi flashing tool. "http://en.miui.com/a-234.html". Google for more details)
NOTE: Be careful following this steps. I won't be responsible if your device is bricked. I may have overlooked certain things so consider my instructions merely as a summary. Do check the links for details. Also even if the miui thread about unlocking bootloader suggest one to use china dev rom for unlocking, I have unlocked my bootloader from global beta rom and global stable rom may work too.
You may install twrp and then flash Xiaomi.eu (China versions of MIUI made bloatfree with more languages and necessary gapps like google play store and services) or you can try custom roms like Resurrection Remix, Lineage OS etc. All of them should have camera 2 api support, at least.
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Apparently yes, you might be able to attempt EDL. However, I have no experience in that regards. You have to google it.
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I downloaded Version: V8.1.4.0.MAAMIDI (MIUI8) Global Stable ROM from their site
Did as you said with the Updater app, now all I see is black screen with white circle spinning from about 5 minutes.
In case this method bricks my device what should I do?
Edit: It's booting now..
Edit2: Nothing really happened, just drained my battery with 4%. Everything is still the same...
What exactly did happen?
IIRC the updater app first verify the package and then tries to update.
Was the verification successful?
Did it directly went to the black screen in one go?
Also you may wait for at least 10-20 minutes.
I am not really experienced in this method...I only suggested as it was written in the link.
I don't think it's exactly bricked, the white circle means something is going on......if the updater successfully updated first boot should take some time.
In case of brick., I am not sure what to do with a locked bootloader. You will probably be able to still go to fastboot (holding volume down + power button)....but not exactly sure what after that. May be you will need an engineering cable. May be make a thread here or search google regard what to do when mi 5 bricked with locked bootloader.
Here's a thread where an user bricked his phone while bootloader is locked: http://en.miui.com/thread-474717-1-1.html
Hopefully the solution given in the reply should work: http://en.miui.com/thread-298885-1-1.html
JRC1995 said:
What exactly did happen?
IIRC the updater app first verify the package and then tries to update.
Was the verification successful?
Did it directly went to the black screen in one go?
Also you may wait for at least 10-20 minutes.
I am not really experienced in this method...I only suggested as it was written in the link.
I don't think it's exactly bricked, the white circle means something is going on......if the updater successfully updated first boot should take some time.
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The Updater verificated the package and then it ask me am I sure, etc. and I agreed then the circle for 10 min. then restarted, and nothing changed...
pi4a7a said:
Edit: It's booting now..
Edit2: Nothing really happened, just drained my battery with 4%. Everything is still the same...
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So still the vendor rom?
I guess you can try china dev recovery rom next.
Or other methods. May be start by unlocking bootloader (may have to wait 3-10 days to get permission and in the end they may even deny permission for some reason) or you may take the risk and try EDL searching google for guide.
JRC1995 said:
So still the vendor rom?
I guess you can try china dev recovery rom next.
Or other methods. May be start by unlocking bootloader (may have to wait 3-10 days to get permission and in the end they may even deny permission for some reason) or you may take the risk and try EDL searching google for guide.
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Yup...
I will try the China rom but wasn't this rom without Google Play store and Google Services, how can I get them without unlocking bootloader?
If this fails I will try Option Two... Or I will try it directly
pi4a7a said:
Yup...
I will try the China rom but wasn't this rom without Google Play store and Google Services, how can I get them without unlocking bootloader?
If this fails I will try Option Two... Or I will try it directly
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Here's a relevant thread (check the whole discussion, and decide how you wanna do it): https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/themes/play-store-mi5-chinese-dev-miui-8-rom-t3578236
Apparently this is usually the suggested way to install gapps in china rom: http://en.miui.com/thread-299317-1-1.html
JRC1995 said:
Here's a relevant thread (check the whole discussion, and decide how you wanna do it): https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/themes/play-store-mi5-chinese-dev-miui-8-rom-t3578236
Apparently this is usually the suggested way to install gapps in china rom: http://en.miui.com/thread-299317-1-1.html
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Tried China ROM but it couldnt be verified by the Updater...
The Mi tool for PC shows the picture from the first post from this thread http://en.miui.com/thread-309629-1-1.html
I really don't want to unlock the bootloader what should I do..
pi4a7a said:
Tried China ROM but it couldnt be verified by the Updater...
The Mi tool for PC shows the picture from the first post from this thread http://en.miui.com/thread-309629-1-1.html
I really don't want to unlock the bootloader what should I do..
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For chinese characters you can try google translate phone app to get the gist of what is going on.
Also the thread is quite old, I wonder if the same thing can be done using the English version of MI PC Suite or not. You can try that if the language barrier poses a problem. But I am not sure if there are any reason for which english version shouldn't be used or not.
Even if you unlock bootloader it can be relocked again while flashing the global fastboot rom using mi flash tool if you choose the clean all and lock (or something like that) option.
JRC1995 said:
For chinese characters you can try google translate phone app to get the gist of what is going on.
Also the thread is quite old, I wonder if the same thing can be done using the English version of MI PC Suite or not. You can try that if the language barrier poses a problem. But I am not sure if there are any reason for which english version shouldn't be used or not.
Even if you unlock bootloader it can be relocked again while flashing the global fastboot rom using mi flash tool if you choose the clean all and lock (or something like that) option.
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I just don't want to go through the unlocking process and requesting and stuff...
I give up...
UPDATE!
I just coudn't sleep all night because of that...
So I followed so many guides and nothing worked, then I discovered this one - http://en.miui.com/thread-293457-1-1.html
Everything went fine, now my phone is going through first boot up so im waiting, Ill update is with more details when I got results.
EDIT: The device got bricked... I went through the procces again and this time the PC Suite (English version) found a newer ROM and installed it, it said procces failed or something like that, the device turned on and it was with the new 8.2 china rom, all information was on the phone, everything is good now, Thanks for all the help
Suggesting all to you guys with Fake Mi rom, remove it!
pi4a7a said:
UPDATE!
I just coudn't sleep all night because of that...
So I followed so many guides and nothing worked, then I discovered this one - http://en.miui.com/thread-293457-1-1.html
Everything went fine, now my phone is going through first boot up so im waiting, Ill update is with more details when I got results.
EDIT: The device got bricked... I went through the procces again and this time the PC Suite (English version) found a newer ROM and installed it, it said procces failed or something like that, the device turned on and it was with the new 8.2 china rom, all information was on the phone, everything is good now, Thanks for all the help
Suggesting all to you guys with Fake Mi rom, remove it!
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I don't know what happened, but it's all's well when the end is well, I guess.
It sounds like you went through a messy processes, some bugs may appear as a result....if you experience strange graphical bugs or something you might consider full wipe flashing but if there is no major bugs (though there are some bugs that are part of the rom which won't be gone no matter how clean the flash is), things should be alright now if you are on the official version.
I am not sure if camera2 api is enabled by default in 8.2 stable china rom (which is what I am guessing you have now?) but hopefully it is enabled. In miui 8 camera 2 can still be enabled by editing build props even if it is not enabled by default but that will need root which will need bootloader unlocking beforehand......but hopefully latest stable version is enabled by default.
So it seems you are stuck on the china rom...but if you can make gapps work with it, it might not be so bad. I also hear that china roms are more supported and has less bug (3rd party widgets didin't work well in latest global dev but work for me in latest xiaomi.eu based on china rom) and many users said that china rom has better audio output (in headphone or something)...but that may be fixed in latest global rom....well my point is that there can be some pros in staying in china rom too.
JRC1995 said:
I don't know what happened, but it's all's well when the end is well, I guess.
It sounds like you went through a messy processes, some bugs may appear as a result....if you experience strange graphical bugs or something you might consider full wipe flashing but if there is no major bugs (though there are some bugs that are part of the rom which won't be gone no matter how clean the flash is), things should be alright now if you are on the official version.
I am not sure if camera2 api is enabled by default in 8.2 stable china rom (which is what I am guessing you have now?) but hopefully it is enabled. In miui 8 camera 2 can still be enabled by editing build props even if it is not enabled by default but that will need root which will need bootloader unlocking beforehand......but hopefully latest stable version is enabled by default.
So it seems you are stuck on the china rom...but if you can make gapps work with it, it might not be so bad. I also hear that china roms are more supported and has less bug (3rd party widgets didin't work well in latest global dev but work for me in latest xiaomi.eu based on china rom) and many users said that china rom has better audio output (in headphone or something)...but that may be fixed in latest global rom....well my point is that there can be some pros in staying in china rom too.
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There are no bugs at all. Raw is not supported...
Now I want to swap to Global stable rom, is that posssible ? This is top priority now.
If not, How can I get google play working on this china 8.2 stable?
pi4a7a said:
There are no bugs at all. Raw is not supported...
Now I want to swap to Global stable rom, is that posssible ? This is top priority now.
If not, How can I get google play working on this china 8.2 stable?
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So it didn't pass the manual camera compatibility test? (Note, RAW is not available in stock camera, it can only be used in some 3rd party camera if camera 2 api is enabled which can be checked using manual camera compatibility test)
I guess, then they implemented this feature in the dev versions. You can probably update to china dev by downloading the latest china dev ota rom and updating it with the updater app after renaming it to update.zip. Or they will probably implement it in the later stable versions which they will release.
Switching to global rom without unlocking bootloader? Now that process is not as straightforward.
Here's a thread about it: http://en.miui.com/thread-299790-1-1.html
But it talks about making\buying an engineering cable.....unlocking bootloader is much less hassle imo and in future all these rom switicng things will be lot easier.......
For installing google apps in china rom, you need google installer or something, I guess. Installing gapps should be the simplest thing that you can try at the moment, I guess. You have to use google installer or something.
http://www.technobuzz.net/install-google-apps-xiaomi-miui-china-rom/
https://xiaomininja.com/2016/09/16/the-complete-guide-to-installing-google-apps-gaaps-on-miui-8/
I gave some links earlier too...I really haven't tried any of these things, google can be your friends in this regards.
JRC1995 said:
So it didn't pass the manual camera compatibility test? (Note, RAW is not available in stock camera, it can only be used in some 3rd party camera if camera 2 api is enabled which can be checked using manual camera compatibility test)
I guess, then they implemented this feature in the dev versions. You can probably update to china dev by downloading the latest china dev ota rom and updating it with the updater app after renaming it to update.zip. Or they will probably implement it in the later stable versions which they will release.
Switching to global rom without unlocking bootloader? Now that process is not as straightforward.
Here's a thread about it: http://en.miui.com/thread-299790-1-1.html
But it talks about making\buying an engineering cable.....unlocking bootloader is much less hassle imo and in future all these rom switicng things will be lot easier.......
For installing google apps in china rom, you need google installer or something, I guess. Installing gapps should be the simplest thing that you can try at the moment, I guess. You have to use google installer or something.
http://www.technobuzz.net/install-google-apps-xiaomi-miui-china-rom/
https://xiaomininja.com/2016/09/16/the-complete-guide-to-installing-google-apps-gaaps-on-miui-8/
I gave some links earlier too...I really haven't tried any of these things, google can be your friends in this regards.
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So if I unlock my bootloader it will be easy to change to Global Stable right?
I will reques unlock code.
Can you share the process for UB please?
And how to lock it later if its not ok to stay with unlocked..

Good low effort way of keeping a rooted stock Mi 9T Pro up to date?

Hello,
I bought a 9T Pro in Europe for my wife and until it arrives I'm trying to research and come up with a low effort process of keeping the stock ROM up to date and rooted for her. I'm confident in manually installing and updating custom ROMs, rooting and dealing with custom ROM issues, but she is not. Therefore I thought the best thing is to use the stock ROM - not custom - since it may be the most stable experience and for me to update and re-root it for her regularly. root is mandatory because we need AdAway and other things. As I understand it, as soon as we unlock and root the phone, OTA updates for stock are impossible and maybe even dangerous. I've tried researching here but am bit struggling to come up with the right infos and I'd be glad for any advice.
Of course I have seen the great thread about unlocking, rooting, etc, but It seems that that deals with non-standard Chinese firmware pre-installed, which is probably not the case on our device. Since it's bought in Europe, I think it will probably come with some Global or EU ROM. And it doesn't answer some of my other questions.
So far my idea is roughly like this:
Phone arrives
Immediately update it via built-in OTA to latest official stock ROM
Unlock, install TWRP, root with Magisk
Use the phone
Whenever a new stock ROM comes out, download it from XDA
Flash new ROM in TWRP and root again with Magisk
Repeat 4-6 as new stock ROM versions are released
Of course regularly backup with Titanium Backup and TWRP
First of all, would this work or did I misunderstand something fundamental?
How does low level firmware / modem update come into play? Would that be included in the stock ROM packages I find here? Or do I need to manually update that separately? How do I know when I have to, since there is no custom ROM maintainer telling me when it's needed?
Is there an easier way of doing this? This process requires me to regularly check for a new stock ROM, then borrow the phone from the wife for some time to backup, update, re-root and so on. Not that convenient but it would work if there is no better way.
Sorry for the long post, but I'd be very thankful for any advice or ideas. I did quite some research, but if all this info is already available and I missed it, my sincere apologies. It's a lot of info about a new device to take in. :silly:
derfraenk said:
Hello,
I bought a 9T Pro in Europe for my wife and until it arrives I'm trying to research and come up with a low effort process of keeping the stock ROM up to date and rooted for her. I'm confident in manually installing and updating custom ROMs, rooting and dealing with custom ROM issues, but she is not. Therefore I thought the best thing is to use the stock ROM - not custom - since it may be the most stable experience and for me to update and re-root it for her regularly. root is mandatory because we need AdAway and other things. As I understand it, as soon as we unlock and root the phone, OTA updates for stock are impossible and maybe even dangerous. I've tried researching here but am bit struggling to come up with the right infos and I'd be glad for any advice.
Of course I have seen the great thread about unlocking, rooting, etc, but It seems that that deals with non-standard Chinese firmware pre-installed, which is probably not the case on our device. Since it's bought in Europe, I think it will probably come with some Global or EU ROM. And it doesn't answer some of my other questions.
So far my idea is roughly like this:
Phone arrives
Immediately update it via built-in OTA to latest official stock ROM
Unlock, install TWRP, root with Magisk
Use the phone
Whenever a new stock ROM comes out, download it from XDA
Flash new ROM in TWRP and root again with Magisk
Repeat 4-6 as new stock ROM versions are released
Of course regularly backup with Titanium Backup and TWRP
First of all, would this work or did I misunderstand something fundamental?
How does low level firmware / modem update come into play? Would that be included in the stock ROM packages I find here? Or do I need to manually update that separately? How do I know when I have to, since there is no custom ROM maintainer telling me when it's needed?
Is there an easier way of doing this? This process requires me to regularly check for a new stock ROM, then borrow the phone from the wife for some time to backup, update, re-root and so on. Not that convenient but it would work if there is no better way.
Sorry for the long post, but I'd be very thankful for any advice or ideas. I did quite some research, but if all this info is already available and I missed it, my sincere apologies. It's a lot of info about a new device to take in. :silly:
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I didn't keep stock MIUI long enough to know definite answers, but from what I remember, this is my understanding.
OTA will still work and shouldn't cause any issues, just that you will lose TWRP and root whenever you do this.
The steps you give are the normal way to update with TWRP and root.
However, OrangeFox recovery (a heavily modified version of TWRP) is often used instead of TWRP in this circumstance. It is built specifically for MIUI devices and with a little bit of work, I believe that it is able to survive OTA updates. Have another dig around for OrangeFox in this forum section and hopefully you'll find details on how to set it up so that you can still take OTA updates.
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Found this guide https://forum.xda-developers.com/k2...efox-recovery-mi-9t-pro-t3980579/post80480669
It seems OrangeFox it's a bit hit and miss.
Also Xiaomi.eu ROMs are another alternative to look into.
Robbo.5000 said:
I didn't keep stock MIUI long enough to know definite answers, but from what I remember, this is my understanding.
OTA will still work and shouldn't cause any issues, just that you will lose TWRP and root whenever you do this.
The steps you give are the normal way to update with TWRP and root.
However, OrangeFox recovery (a heavily modified version of TWRP) is often used instead of TWRP in this circumstance. It is built specifically for MIUI devices and with a little bit of work, I believe that it is able to survive OTA updates. Have another dig around for OrangeFox in this forum section and hopefully you'll find details on how to set it up so that you can still take OTA updates.
Edit:
Found this guide https://forum.xda-developers.com/k2...efox-recovery-mi-9t-pro-t3980579/post80480669
It seems OrangeFox it's a bit hit and miss.
Also Xiaomi.eu ROMs are another alternative to look into.
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Wow, that's a lot of helpful info, thanks a lot for pointing me into these directions. I will definitely look into Xiaomi.eu, I that sounds promising!
Get phone. Apply for unlock. Unlock.
You can use my guide bit.do/raphaelguide
Use orangefox 10.8 use magisk.
You can flash eu ROM. Stable version. From xiaomi.eu
Eu rom installs official twrp after install. You are familiar with that
Once you have eu ROM ( same as stock, better performance, minimal bloat, no ads, no tracking)
Eu ROMs gets OTA, keeps root. This is exactly what you want. Just press update in settings as normal ota. It'll do normal ota update by itself, no titanium, migrate hassle.
Join telegram group if you want or on me for any help.
Sandeeep Kiran said:
Get phone. Apply for unlock. Unlock.
You can use my guide bit.do/raphaelguide
Use orangefox 10.8 use magisk.
You can flash eu ROM. Stable version. From xiaomi.eu
Eu rom installs official twrp after install. You are familiar with that
Once you have eu ROM ( same as stock, better performance, minimal bloat, no ads, no tracking)
Eu ROMs gets OTA, keeps root. This is exactly what you want. Just press update in settings as normal ota. It'll do normal ota update by itself, no titanium, migrate hassle.
Join telegram group if you want or on me for any help.
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Amazing, I have taken a look at Xiaomi.eu already and decided to try that. But what you're saying sounds even much better than what I expected. Thank you very much too, I will definitely go that route.

Question questions about a rom for mi 11 pro

hi ,
i want to buy the mi11 pro from a chinese site .
they have the chinese version , but with this kind of roms :
CHINA Firmware = Saftynet Passed + OTA Updates + Widevine Level 1
XIAOMI.EU TWRP Firmware (unlocked) = Saftynet Passed + OTA Updates + Widevine Level 1
GLOBAL Firmware (unlocked) = Saftynet Failed + OTA Updates + Widevine Level 1
im so confused because im not an expert in these issues .
all i want for me is these things:
1. full support in hebrew
2. automatic future updates from xiaomi ...i dont want to search by self , i want to get it automatically , a massage tat an update is ready for me to install
3. google play store and all the google app , like chrome , drive , etc/
4. google pay and other payment
5. i dont want all the chinese app
which rom is for me?
what are the difference between the global and the eu roms?
and , what is the meaning of - "Saftynet Passed + OTA Updates + Widevine Level 1 ???"
thnx and sorry for the long questions
Safetynet passed is the google API which lets apps know if you are rooted or not.
Widevine is the DRM protection thingy that enables you to run DRM protected contect like prime or netflix.
Level 1 means full HD any resolution.
Level 3 is SD definition only.
The Xiaomi.EU has OTA updates so choose that.
OTA means over the air updates from Xiaomi. Meaning you'll get regular updates from Xiaomi.
Sounds like this phone is pre-rooted and pre bootloader unlocked.
but its written that all the roms are unlocked .
so , which rom will be suitable for all my needs that ive mentioned above , and the important is the multi language and google play ??? which one?
thnx
mmns said:
but its written that all the roms are unlocked .
so , which rom will be suitable for all my needs that ive mentioned above , and the important is the multi language and google play ??? which one?
thnx
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Uh, Xiaomi.EU if you want OTA updates.
Meaning update from Xiaomi.
So safetynet is a form of security, mostly used so you can work with apps like google pay safely.
OTA means you can get all the updates via wirelessly and automaticly with a press of a button, restart and its done. It also means you only get access to stable versions of your Rom in this case, and dont have access to manual beta roms every week from xiaomi.eu. If you do manualy you need to have a custom recovery like TRWP.
Wildvine l1 is for streaming content like netflix where you can use all the benefits of higher quality vídeo and audio but it works on every avaiable rom out there for now so no issues theres.
If you are starting and dont know how to work with any of it(installing recovery, roms, fixing issues), you have 2 good choices, either go for xiaomi.eu option if you live in europe and want their optimized version of the rom, minimal bloatware, more costumizability, or go for Global if you live in other places and including europe. Global is consider a all rounder and the safer rom to use if you dont know anything.
You can i install everything you want later if you decide to invest your time finding more about roms and if you decide to take that leap.
I bought mi 11 ultra chinese version so i can go through the all process of installing everything myself and also took less time shipping and less cost, but i have 10 years of experience if that counts for anything
xwonic said:
So safetynet is a form of security, mostly used so you can work with apps like google pay safely.
OTA means you can get all the updates via wirelessly and automaticly with a press of a button, restart and its done. It also means you only get access to stable versions of your Rom in this case, and dont have access to manual beta roms every week from xiaomi.eu. If you do manualy you need to have a custom recovery like TRWP.
Wildvine l1 is for streaming content like netflix where you can use all the benefits of higher quality vídeo and audio but it works on every avaiable rom out there for now so no issues theres.
If you are starting and dont know how to work with any of it(installing recovery, roms, fixing issues), you have 2 good choices, either go for xiaomi.eu option if you live in europe and want their optimized version of the rom, minimal bloatware, more costumizability, or go for Global if you live in other places and including europe. Global is consider a all rounder and the safer rom to use if you dont know anything.
You can i install everything you want later if you decide to invest your time finding more about roms and if you decide to take that leap.
I bought mi 11 ultra chinese version so i can go through the all process of installing everything myself and also took less time shipping and less cost, but i have 10 years of experience if that counts for anything
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Welp here is a more detailed version of what I said.
I personally think of SafetyNet, googles way of assuring their developers that people cant bypass the payment methods to get free stuff.
That's why root triggers banking apps and stuff.
thnx guys for your answeres . im very happy to be here . i have a technical and pc knowledge .
my aim is to cheack with you , according to the details i gave you from the store :
1. if the device im buying is already rooted and unlocked
2. if im from israel , which rom is relevant to me - eu or global?
3. which rom is multilanguage?
i really be happy to get direct answer to all of my questions , 1+2+3 , its very important to me to achieve this data for my next steps .
thnx and god bless you all
1. Yes they are
2. Dosent matter if you want, but global would be
3. They all support many languages.
1. so if im from israel , i have to choose only the global? only the global will work for me?
2. if the device is already rooted and unlocked , is it mean that he has already the "trwp" ?
Global will work yes.
TWRP is a custom recovery.
Kenora_I said:
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TWRP is a custom recovery.
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i dont understand the rule of the "twrp" , and when i add it to my device
mmns said:
i dont understand the rule of the "twrp" , and when i add it to my device
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The EU custom ROM is flashed to the phone using a custom recovery. In this case it is twrp recovery. It is much easier to produce ROMs in this format than a fastboot method. There are one, may be 2 fastboot ROMs built by EU Devs before the twrp recovery was available. You could use one of those but any further updates would need you to install twrp recovery as the updates are in that format too.
Just consider it a function of changing from stock to Custom ROMs. It's very little work to do but it does give you a better experience and ota updates.
so by instaling the twrp ill be able to get automatically notification about any updates and instal it by clicking . am i right?

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