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Since Android Wear has the screen on all the time, and the Gear Live is AMOLED wouldn't burn in be an issue? the galaxy gears on display at retail stores have a bit of a burn in problem.
nolandynamite said:
Since Android Wear has the screen on all the time, and the Gear Live is AMOLED wouldn't burn in be an issue? the galaxy gears on display at retail stores have a bit of a burn in problem.
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From what I've read, the watches are "always on" in the sense at the screen stays on, but the lighting is turned off. So instead of having to refresh the UI every time the watch is seen, it just turns the light on. Similar to a backlight for a laptop. Display models are usually always lit so they burn in due to the display being lit 24/7.
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From what I've read, the watches are "always on" in the sense at the screen stays on, but the lighting is turned off. So instead of having to refresh the UI every time the watch is seen, it just turns the light on. Similar to a backlight for a laptop. Display models are usually always lit so they burn in due to the display being lit 24/7.
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As far as I am aware, AMOLED has no backlight...that's sort of the point...every pixel "burns" individually.
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As far as I am aware, AMOLED has no backlight...that's sort of the point...every pixel "burns" individually.
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I said similar because not everyone is familiar with the way AMOLED's work. But the same thing occurred at his Best Buy as would any modern portable display, device is constantly lit, and resulted in burn in.
I'm sure the user has an option to turn off the display if they choose to.
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they also have dark mode and dim (holding palm over the screen) don't they?
hopefully there'll be something within all this to prevent issues.
Only LG G Watch has "Always-on" display, Gear Live and Moto 360 have a button to turn it on and yes in the Setting you have an option to adjust the brightness.
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Only LG G Watch has "Always-on" display, Gear Live and Moto 360 have a button to turn it on and yes in the Setting you have an option to adjust the brightness.
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After watching like, 40 videos, I'm pretty sure that they all have always on. The button on the Gear Live and the 360 are to act as a physical way of turning off the display entirely as LG allows by covering it with your palm. But yeah, from what I've seen, the Gear Live goes into the same low power greyscale mode that the G Watch goes into, and both support wrist flicking to activate the display.
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After watching like, 40 videos, I'm pretty sure that they all have always on. The button on the Gear Live and the 360 are to act as a physical way of turning off the display entirely as LG allows by covering it with your palm. But yeah, from what I've seen, the Gear Live goes into the same low power greyscale mode that the G Watch goes into, and both support wrist flicking to activate the display.
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I did watch about 40 videos too lol and LG G Watch was the only advertised as "screen always on" as Gear Live has Super AMOLED display and even greater resolution than LG G Watch so the Gear Live would burn out in matter of hours.
LG G has 400 Mah battery, IPS display and lower resolution so it can withstand being "always-on" for at least 36 hours as advertised.
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I did watch about 40 videos too lol and LG G Watch was the only advertised as "screen always on" as Gear Live has Super AMOLED display and even greater resolution than LG G Watch so the Gear Live would burn out in matter of hours.
LG G has 400 Mah battery, IPS display and lower resolution so it can withstand being "always-on" for at least 36 hours as advertised.
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Except, you know, on the official Google page, and in the videos that I've seen, the screen also just times out to a low power, black and white screen (referring to the Gear Live). Super AMOLED is more power efficient in idle / dark screens due to the nature of individual pixel lightning, so I don't really understand what you mean by the Gear Live would burn out in a matter of hours (they should be relatively the same from what I can tell).
Always on = standby (i.e low brightness, dark screen). It does not mean full brightness, always coloured watch face. No way in hell. If that was the case, why would the displays time out in what appears to be 5-10 seconds?
Yeah.. I'm going to wait on conclusive battery testing before making my purchase. I've got like a week anyways, might as well.
Also, I'm legitimately concerned about screen burn in now, given the nature of AMOLED.
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Except, you know, on the official Google page, and in the videos that I've seen, the screen also just times out to a low power, black and white screen (referring to the Gear Live). Super AMOLED is more power efficient in idle / dark screens due to the nature of individual pixel lightning, so I don't really understand what you mean by the Gear Live would burn out in a matter of hours (they should be relatively the same from what I can tell).
Always on = standby (i.e low brightness, dark screen). It does not mean full brightness, always coloured watch face. No way in hell. If that was the case, why would the displays time out in what appears to be 5-10 seconds?
Yeah.. I'm going to wait on conclusive battery testing before making my purchase. I've got like a week anyways, might as well.
Also, I'm legitimately concerned about screen burn in now, given the nature of AMOLED.
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i've been concerned about screen burn in from time to time as well (most recently with the gnex). but then i realized it is highly unlikely i'll have the device for long enough to achieve burn in and/or notice
I've been playing with my Gear Live for a couple of days, so here's what I can tell :
- The screen is "Always On" by default, which means it will get dimmer and switch to a black background on most watch faces (and for AMOLED, black means "off").
- You can set it to turn off completely.
- In order to dim it (or turn it off depending on the settings) you can either wait, cover the screen with your hand, or use the physical button... The button is not really practical and seems to serve absolutely no purpose since you can use the screen.
- I haven't noticed any burn-in at all yet
- I think I noticed that from time to time the facewatch (I'm using the one with the digital hour in the center and analog minutes, I think it's called "digitalog" ) switches a few pixels to the right or to the left. My guess is it is to prevent burn in, I know most plasma TVs do that too.
- I had a Galaxy S2 for several years before switching to a Nexus 5, and yes, the toip of the screen where the notification bar usually is was burnt-in (or rather I think the whole screen was burnt except for this black bar). It was noticeable on full screen apps but never bothered me. Even if it happens on the Gear Live I can't see it bothering me... It's not like I'll be watching movies on it...
So my guess is you should be fine... But if you're really worried you can always disable "Always On".
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I've been playing with my Gear Live for a couple of days, so here's what I can tell :
- The screen is "Always On" by default, which means it will get dimmer and switch to a black background on most watch faces (and for AMOLED, black means "off").
- You can set it to turn off completely.
- In order to dim it (or turn it off depending on the settings) you can either wait, cover the screen with your hand, or use the physical button... The button is not really practical and seems to serve absolutely no purpose since you can use the screen.
- I haven't noticed any burn-in at all yet
- I think I noticed that from time to time the facewatch (I'm using the one with the digital hour in the center and analog minutes, I think it's called "digitalog" ) switches a few pixels to the right or to the left. My guess is it is to prevent burn in, I know most plasma TVs do that too.
- I had a Galaxy S2 for several years before switching to a Nexus 5, and yes, the toip of the screen where the notification bar usually is was burnt-in (or rather I think the whole screen was burnt except for this black bar). It was noticeable on full screen apps but never bothered me. Even if it happens on the Gear Live I can't see it bothering me... It's not like I'll be watching movies on it...
So my guess is you should be fine... But if you're really worried you can always disable "Always On".
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How is the battery though? Think you can get through a solid day with heavy notification flow? That's all I really care about.
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- I think I noticed that from time to time the facewatch (I'm using the one with the digital hour in the center and analog minutes, I think it's called "digitalog" ) switches a few pixels to the right or to the left. My guess is it is to prevent burn in, I know most plasma TVs do that too.
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I have a Gear Live, and can confirm this is true. I've seen it on multiple watch faces.
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Except, you know, on the official Google page, and in the videos that I've seen, the screen also just times out to a low power, black and white screen (referring to the Gear Live). Super AMOLED is more power efficient in idle / dark screens due to the nature of individual pixel lightning, so I don't really understand what you mean by the Gear Live would burn out in a matter of hours (they should be relatively the same from what I can tell).
Always on = standby (i.e low brightness, dark screen). It does not mean full brightness, always coloured watch face. No way in hell. If that was the case, why would the displays time out in what appears to be 5-10 seconds?
Yeah.. I'm going to wait on conclusive battery testing before making my purchase. I've got like a week anyways, might as well.
Also, I'm legitimately concerned about screen burn in now, given the nature of AMOLED.
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I own a Gear Live and can confirm that it does indeed have an always on display (which can be toggled from settings) that dims to gray scale when not in use just like the G Watch.
At the same time I can also confirm that having my watch now just around 3 weeks has already showed some very minor signs of burn-in. Typically when in apps or settings. As I said though its very minor and not really noticeable unless you're looking for it. That said though it is there.
Also to clear up battery life the Gear Live can withstand 36hours of always on screen. While I typically charge my watch each night I have tested it and can get it to run from one morning through to the following night before the battery reaches 5%. This is with the Always-on display option enabled.
Are you guys leaving the screen on all night when you're sleeping? I know its not lit up all the way but like the dimmed version of the screen. Like I'm using the simple clock. You think its okay to leave that on all night? I'm thinking it'll be okay cause it'll gradually change over night so it's not technically sitting on one time for 7 hours.
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Are you guys leaving the screen on all night when you're sleeping? I know its not lit up all the way but like the dimmed version of the screen. Like I'm using the simple clock. You think its okay to leave that on all night? I'm thinking it'll be okay cause it'll gradually change over night so it's not technically sitting on one time for 7 hours.
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I am a little worried about burn in myself so I turn the device off at night when I charge it. Even though the pixels should shift with the default watch faces I just think it's a safer bet to power it off.
I just got the amazing lg g watch r. Very satisfied with it. I am just trying some watch faces and i found this great one for example:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.ddroid.aw.watchface.rf03
Very happy with it but I wonder....
How real is the danger for screen burn ins? This watch face has for example a green background in ambient mode. I keep the brightness as low as possible, but still readable (great thing of this watchface is that you can set the brightness of ambient and active mode as low or as high as you want) but still the oled screen will always be green..
Is this healthy for this kind of screen? Of course I can turn off the green background and have it black and white in ambient mode, but I like the effect of the screen being dimmed and going to brighter green when twisting my wrist.
But I don't want the screen to go to waste already after a while... anybody have a theory?
What is ambient mode? people keep mentioning it. This watch has no light sensor.
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What is ambient mode? people keep mentioning it. This watch has no light sensor.
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I mean the standby mode with dimmed screen. Not screen off.....
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If you want to use the "always on" feature w/o worries, green is the colour you want.
Greem OLED compund has 3 chracteristics that makes it the best choice:
- most visible light from the whole spectrum (for the human eye, that is): this mean you need a very low brighness level in order to see it (power and burn-in safe)
- the most power efficient sub-pixel (1.5 times as economic as red and 2.5 to 3 times ore econmic than blue).
- the most resilient (lowest degradation over time, twice compared to red and 4 times compared to blue).
So, if you like always-on display and you wnat the most out of your watch, green is the choice for AMOLED screens.
**** note: the numbers above are a synthesis from specialised web-sites as well as from my own measurements with OLED screens (Samsung models at least). ****
well, green is the "best" color to display on OLED screens - but black (=pixels are off) would be way better regarding burn-in and battery
It seems that the watchface you linked has a black mode with green font as well - use that one in ambient mode and you should be good
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well, green is the "best" color to display on OLED screens - but black (=pixels are off) would be way better regarding burn-in and battery
It seems that the watchface you linked has a black mode with green font as well - use that one in ambient mode and you should be good
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Yeah, this seems the safest option to me too. But the effect is not as nice of course when the screen becomes active. Colors get inverted when the screens goes bright. The effect is cooler when the dimmed green background goes bright, like you turn on the backlight
But I'll stick with the safe option for now, I just don't trust it
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I thought blue was the easiest to see, hence its used on police cars and ambulances.
Bring up Google now and ask this: "OK Google, what is the most visible colour to the human eye?"
See what it will answer and post here
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Bring up Google now and ask this: "OK Google, what is the most visible colour to the human eye?"
See what it will answer and post here
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Yellow
I was actually curious to see if anyone will search ... GJ.
What is yellow made of in RGB world (AMOLED is RGB)? : RED + GREEN.
What is closer to yellow (in terms of wavelenght), red or green? : GREEN ...
That why, the most visible pure colour of the RGB matrix is green ... which happens to be the most economical one to use. Double win
Sure would be nice if it had a proximity sensor, so it could turn off the screen when inside my sleeve. I figure that would pretty much solve the problem for me.
That would definitely be a plus ... but the question is: where to place such a sensor w/o breaking the design? Moto 360 solution is not on everyone's liking.
glenner05 said:
I just got the amazing lg g watch r. Very satisfied with it. I am just trying some watch faces and i found this great one for example:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.ddroid.aw.watchface.rf03
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I was liking this watch face, till I purchased and realized it has everything except the "current" temperature...
Where does gray fall on the color burn in scale?
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I noticed that on my S10e, auto brightness doesnt work as well as it did on my Note 9.
Sometimes I have to manually turn down my brightness if I turn off the lights in my bedroom for example. Or if i turn on the lights, brightness stays on the same level. But if i turn off my phone display then turn it back on, the brightness is suddenly changed.
How well does it work for you guys?
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I noticed that on my S10e, auto brightness doesnt work as well as it did on my Note 9.
Sometimes I have to manually turn down my brightness if I turn off the lights in my bedroom for example. Or if i turn on the lights, brightness stays on the same level. But if i turn off my phone display then turn it back on, the brightness is suddenly changed.
How well does it work for you guys?
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I have noticed that my S10e is slow to respond to ambient lighting
I have an S10 and to be honest it's hard to say if auto brightness is working how it should. Coming from an LG V30 this phone's display is significantly brighter and especially more apparent when using it in the dark. Even the darkest setting is too bright. I always check the level to make sure auto brightness is working as it should and I guess it is? Either that or it's stuck.
my only comment is that in totally dark room it does not go all the way down , it stays a little bit brighter than normal and than my old iphone x
talking about the s10+
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my only comment is that in totally dark room it does not go all the way down , it stays a little bit brighter than normal and than my old iphone x
talking about the s10+
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yeah same here, and the strange thing is that on my Samsung Note 9 & Samsung S7 it actually used to go all the way down in a totally dark room, but on this phone it doesnt for some reason..
It can take a bit for Adaptive brightness to learn what your favorite settings are like.
Yes, same here, I have s10 and in the dark auto brightness is near to half. Wtf?! I tried to calibrate, no chance. For sure this is a bug. If you go in *#0*# you will see it s writing uncalibrate light sensor
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It can take a bit for Adaptive brightness to learn what your favorite settings are like.
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nah, on my Note 9 & S7 it worked as it should on the first day i got those phones
there clearly is a problem with adaptive brightness on the S10, anyone with the S10 who had another samsung phone previously will notice that
no, the auto brightness is trash. it sucks. it never gets bright enough even tho i've made adjustments literally daily. it sucks.
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I have noticed that my S10e is slow to respond to ambient lighting
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Yup. Same here. Maybe software update will fix this soon.
Even with factory reset it still happened.
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Yup. Same here. Maybe software update will fix this soon.
Even with factory reset it still happened.
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I too did factory reset...at least we have tried
Different topic: I will wait for T-Mobile firmware one more day and may possibly return the device back to Samsung and keep my Pixel 2
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I too did factory reset...at least we have tried
Different topic: I will wait for T-Mobile firmware one more day and may possibly return the device back to Samsung and keep my Pixel 2
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I got my first update on unlocked version. Why return?
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I got my first update on unlocked version. Why return?
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First reason: I want some T-Mobile features what unlocked doesn't provide natively and may require an extra app to function, but if before return window closes, I would be able to find a 100% firmware that would work, then I may not return the device.
Second reason: I don't like the fingerprint on S10e and maybe it is somehow better than S10's implementation, I still have to be more precise than Pixel 2 and other which had the sensor on the back.
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First reason: I want some T-Mobile features what unlocked doesn't provide natively and may require an extra app to function, but if before return window closes, I would be able to find a 100% firmware that would work, then I may not return the device.
Second reason: I don't like the fingerprint on S10e and maybe it is somehow better than S10's implementation, I still have to be more precise than Pixel 2 and other which had the sensor on the back.
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Interesting. I came from OnePlus 6t, the in displayed scanner suck kiwi balls. Everytime you switch screen protector you needed to rescan your finger. Lol.
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Interesting. I came from OnePlus 6t, the in displayed scanner suck kiwi balls. Everytime you switch screen protector you needed to rescan your finger. Lol.
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Oh, that is not convenient at all. I think the manufacturers are pushing their limits to please customers with new designs/features which in reality hurt the quality of the devices we pay for
I have the S10 plus and the auto brightness seems to be functioning fine. Occasionally in the dark I get thrown off with how bright this screen is. The brightness setting does decrease significantly in the dark but when viewing something with a mostly white background, I have to squint until my pupils constrict to a point where my retinas aren't getting torched. In brighter environments, the brightness level seems to increase accordingly.
Hi guys,
I came across an article about this issue from Aman Jain (Valuetalk) : https://www.valuewalk.com/2019/04/galaxy-s10-auto-brightness-no-issue/amp/
Facing Issues With Galaxy S10 Auto Brightness? Do This
Aman Jain Aman Jain
April 3, 2019 11:42 am
Samsung Galaxy Note 10E
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Galaxy S10 auto brightness
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We have already covered the issues with the proximity sensor in the Samsung Galaxy S10. Now, it appears, one more sensor in the Galaxy S10 is not working as it should. Several users are complaining that the Galaxy S10 auto brightness or the ambient light sensor is not working perfectly.
Galaxy S10 auto brightness – what’s the issue?
Affected users have raised the issue on social platforms and Samsung’s product forums (first spotted by tech site PiunikaWeb). Users complained that the brightness level does not automatically come down in low light. So, they have had to do it manually, but it remains at the set level even when the light is good.
“Sometimes I have to manually turn down my brightness if I turn off the lights in my bedroom for example. Or if i turn on the lights, brightness stays on the same level. But if i turn off my phone display then turn it back on, the brightness is suddenly changed,” one user said.
Further, users also say that with adaptive brightness turned on, the screen goes dark when facing the sun. “White highlights are bright blue, and all colors are distorted. It’s unusable. Spin back around or go into the shade, and the screen comes back to normal,” one user said on Reddit.
Users say that this was not the case with the Galaxy S9, where the auto brightness feature worked perfectly. One user even claims that the Galaxy S10 doesn’t even have a light sensor, instead, maybe there is some in-display sensor that needs a software fix.
“..even if you put your finger on the front camera the auto brightness still moves …..also if you acces this *#0*# you cannot find the light sensor because it’s not there like old samsung phones,” one user said on Samsung’s product forum.
Adaptive brightness to blame
Several users believe that the adaptive brightness is to blame here, and so they have turned it off. However, turning it off is not a solution, and many users agree to that.
“This is a huge problem, and should not be happening on a new phone. The adaptive brightness is a major feature of the phone, and simply turning it off isn’t an option as far as I’m concerned,” one Reddit user said.
It must be noted that Adaptive Brightness came with Android 9. It is an AI based feature that gets better with time. Meaning, it would learn from the interactions that users make with the screen brightness slider, and over time, it would customize the brightness automatically to meet the users’ needs.
Google says that in its testing for Adaptive Brightness, it found that half the test users made fewer adjustments to the slider after a week of using the Adaptive Brightness.
Not an issue, give it some time
Based on Google’s explanation, it seems, users need to give some more time for their phones to adapt to the Adaptive Brightness. Even Samsung’s explanation of the issue with the Galaxy S10 auto brightness is somewhat similar.
“From Android P, a user’s brightness setting pattern is learned, and when the user sets a specific brightness the automatic brightness is controlled to be closer to that specific brightness…… However, when you set the brightness, the brightness can be applied immediately in the short term. If more than 30 seconds after the screen is turned off and the ambient light environment changes by more than 60%, this short term setting brightness will return to the light that was relearned,” Samsung developers say.
Additionally, developers say that users can reset the brightness curve to start the learning process again. To do this, go to Settings – Apps – Show system apps – Device Health Service – Storage – Manage Storage – reset Adaptive Brightness.
All this explanation from Samsung developers and Google could mean that the complaints from users about the Galaxy S10 auto brightness are valid, but it still is not an issue. Things will get better with time as AI learns more about users’ preferences.
Though it is not a bug, affected users do not seem very satisfied as they still have to live with inferior quality images (even if for some time until AI applies the learning).
“Not sure it’s a error to be replicated per se. It’s just an inferior looking quality of image. They will have to make the comparison to see the very obvious difference,” one user said.
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FYI : the brightness sensor is under the screen like the proxity sensor, located bellow the wifi / network icon. It's visible at sun light.
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FYI : the brightness sensor is under the screen like the proxity sensor, located bellow the wifi / network icon. It's visible at sun light.
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There are actually two light sensors: front and back of the phone.
Unlock the device without pressing the power button and only by placing your fingerprint on the sensor.
The light sensor starts checking the environment light only in this situation
Hey guys, hope you are doing great.
I have noticed one peculiar thing, when i sit in pitch dark places with brightness at the end, i face this white issue over my display screen shot attached, it's Google chrome app which showing me these results,(there are many more also)for this to be noticed you must sit in a dark room.
I know it's typical led panel issue and i would like to know if i am the only one?
Do you seriously think we are able to see your display in a screenshot?
IoIam said:
Do you seriously think we are able to see your display in a screenshot?
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If you are in a pitch dark room and see no anamoly then your's display is good. If not you will see a whitish tint over the top area
And btw you can check on your device itself, by just opening chrome(if it's black) and in dark room with brightness as low as possible.
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Hey guys, hope you are doing great.
I have noticed one peculiar thing, when i sit in pitch dark places with brightness at the end, i face this white issue over my display screen shot attached, it's Google chrome app which showing me these results,(there are many more also)for this to be noticed you must sit in a dark room.
I know it's typical led panel issue and i would like to know if i am the only one?
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Enable feature in display settings under anti flicker mode to on. and check again your screen in low light conditions.
Yup, that worked, it increase overall contrast for low brightness, is this condition(tint) is normal for amoled panel, or i am just unlucky.
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Yup, that worked, it increase overall contrast for low brightness, is this condition(tint) is normal for amoled panel, or i am just unlucky.
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yes that's normal for amoled panel.
Hello all, my past 3 AMOLED phones have been facing burn-in where the keyboard is displayed as I tend to chat a lot! Can anyone give me an option to avoid it? Please don't troll and say use less keyboard!
Might help if you keep the brightness on the lower side, other than that seems like catch22
Also choose a darker theme for the keyboard.
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Also choose a darker theme for the keyboard.
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That's why it kept happening for me... The I turn it to light mode and then the burn in goes away!
Dark mode will help reduce it, but I leave my phone set to auto switch light and dark mode based on sunrise and sunset, this way whatever app I'm using also switches, so the light and dark apps, flip button colours as well so anything white on a black screen also becomes black on a white screen so it helps reverse any burnin in that sense too.
For example, texting apps usually also have white icons at the top which can burn in with dark mode, so if you switch to light mode, the same icons are now black on a white screen, so the screen burns but the icons don't, so it all slowly burns in together and nothing becomes noticeable.
Been doing this after getting burnin on my S10+ using only darkmode and light icons left burnin. And then on my S20 Ultra I did the flipping light and dark mode and never had issues but I also had the full screen settings to hide the pinhole camera so it made the entire top black, and then One UI 3.0 came out and they removed that option so now you can't hide the pinhole camera and I had a burnin bar across the top from where it was black lol.
Now on my S21 Ultra I have the light and dark mode set to flip at sun rise and sun set, and I can't hide the pin hole so maybe third phone is the charm here and I won't have any burnin at all this time haha.
Hope this helps.
There is no burn in with AMOLEDs; they have a finite lifespan and get dimmer as they age before finally failing after many 10's of thousands hours.
Don't over drive them by using them at maximum or near maximum levels.
High energy blue pixels are the most susceptible to damage, red the least because of its longer wavelength.
Use manual brightness control. Avoid going much over 50%.
Using full brightness reduces pixel lifespan as probably does high temperatures ie direct sunlight.
Limit usage at full brightness by the second*.
Using manual control ensures you're aware of it and keeps the phone from auto jacking it up on you when not really needed.
Turn it down in low light; don't burn out your retina's as they aren't replaceable.
Use dark mode whenever possible. Use dark or black wallpaper. You Good Lock to get rid of the stutus bar icons; simply use the pull down notification screen.
My 10+ gets heavy usage every day with a lot of keyboard time. At 15+ months there is no discernible weakness or dead pixels of any color at any brightness level.
*this is especially important with static images
bANONYMOUS said:
Dark mode will help reduce it, but I leave my phone set to auto switch light and dark mode based on sunrise and sunset, this way whatever app I'm using also switches, so the light and dark apps, flip button colours as well so anything white on a black screen also becomes black on a white screen so it helps reverse any burnin in that sense too.
For example, texting apps usually also have white icons at the top which can burn in with dark mode, so if you switch to light mode, the same icons are now black on a white screen, so the screen burns but the icons don't, so it all slowly burns in together and nothing becomes noticeable.
Been doing this after getting burnin on my S10+ using only darkmode and light icons left burnin. And then on my S20 Ultra I did the flipping light and dark mode and never had issues but I also had the full screen settings to hide the pinhole camera so it made the entire top black, and then One UI 3.0 came out and they removed that option so now you can't hide the pinhole camera and I had a burnin bar across the top from where it was black lol.
Now on my S21 Ultra I have the light and dark mode set to flip at sun rise and sun set, and I can't hide the pin hole so maybe third phone is the charm here and I won't have any burnin at all this time haha.
Hope this helps.
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you say you had burn in from keeping a black bar in the area where the pinhole was?
that doesnt make any sense. If it was black those pixels were off and there wouldnt be any burn in
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Get Gboard, And change it to a dark skin, I've never had any problems
sesnut said:
If it was black those pixels were off and there wouldnt be any burn in
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Reverse burn in, the screen area being used has a yellowish tone to it from being worn in over time, no matter how long the display is on, it's always burning in and the colour always adjusts over time from the burn in, it's the image retention burn in that people talk about, but the entire screen is always burning the entire time it's used. So by never using the top area the pixels are fresh and have a cooler tone to them than the rest of the screen as a result of this.
VICosPhi said:
Might help if you keep the brightness on the lower side, other than that seems like catch22
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Indeed. And to add, perhaps occasionally change from white to black keyboard to even things out.
This is a good one. Says something about fast charging and not showing this message again. Guess they forgot to check don’t show again.
No offence but:
Pay 1.2K for phone after you see super HDR, huge brightness etc. and then limit everything to minimum? Seriously?
If I see them, I will ask EE(my phone provider) to replace it. I had same issue with OP 7 Pro, screen burn ins, they have replaced phone.
joloxx9joloxx9 said:
No offence but:
Pay 1.2K for phone after you see super HDR, huge brightness etc. and then limit everything to minimum? Seriously?
If I see them, I will ask EE(my phone provider) to replace it. I had same issue with OP 7 Pro, screen burn ins, they have replaced phone.
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Some countries like the UK have better consumer laws than others.
Sukrith said:
Hello all, my past 3 AMOLED phones have been facing burn-in where the keyboard is displayed as I tend to chat a lot! Can anyone give me an option to avoid it? Please don't troll and say use less keyboard!
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From normal use there will be no burnin. However, if you keep your display on showing the keboard all the time it will burn in. Also pixels start to burn in once they are on
kpwnApps said:
From normal use there will be no burnin. However, if you keep your display on showing the keboard all the time it will burn in. Also pixels start to burn in once they are on
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Mate - I had burn ins on my screen from things like clock etc, you cannot get rid of them, and it is a design flown, as long there is nothing in instruction etc.
joloxx9joloxx9 said:
Mate - I had burn ins on my screen from things like clock etc, you cannot get rid of them, and it is a design flown, as long there is nothing in instruction etc.
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Samsung shifts the AOD clock to help prevent this. However I use only tap on AOD now.
Perps know the deal, organic LEDs have a finite lifespan. Yeah you can drive your car as fast as it will go but you probably don't because you know it wouldn't last very long.
You wonder why the price tag keeps going up?
Freebies are never free.
Using in direct sunlight or at 80+% is just asking for it. In most cases completely avoidable. One can at least limit the time of use at full brightness and not have a homescreen that looks like a Vegas billboard.
blackhawk said:
Samsung shifts the AOD clock to help prevent this. However I use only tap on AOD now.
Perps know the deal, organic LEDs have a finite lifespan. Yeah you can drive your car as fast as it will go but you probably don't because you know it wouldn't last very long.
You wonder why the price tag keeps going up?
Freebies are never free.
Using in direct sunlight or at 80+% is just asking for it. In most cases completely avoidable. One can at least limit the time of use at full brightness and not have a homescreen that looks like a Vegas billboard.
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So they should not sell them in countries like Spain etc as there is too much sun
joloxx9joloxx9 said:
So they should not sell them in countries like Spain etc as there is too much sun
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I live in Texas desert, the sun here is intense.
It burns out LED traffic lights all the time; OLEDs are far less tolerant.
Simply use in the shade.
The individual pixels are microscopic. That they work at all is amazing let alone being capable of high lumen output with extremely excellent color/gamma rendering.
The AMOLED matrix has 10's of thousands of active solid state components not just the OLED pixels themselves. All are hest sensitive plus the fact the display is helping to dissipate mobo heat while producing heat of it's own. The most heat sensitive component, the OLED is smack on top of this glass heatsink*.
Direct sunlight in especially high ambient temperatures is a real bad plan. You can fry any display like this.
Know, understand and respect their limitations. You will be rewarded with a long lived gorgeous display.
*glass is a good thermal insulator. Do tempered glass protective screens increase the thermal burden? Most likely. If cool at first the added mass will be protective but once the device (or the sun) heats that mass up things will go down hill from there and the display temperature will rapidly climb.
joloxx9joloxx9 said:
So they should not sell them in countries like Spain etc as there is too much sun
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Common sense should prevail I guess. I live in a place hotter than Spain. If I were to use my device in the middle of the day in bright sun light it’ll cook after 15mins. Hence why I don’t. But then would any other device.
blackhawk said:
I live in Texas desert, the sun here is intense.
It burns out LED traffic lights all the time; OLEDs are far less tolerant.
Simply use in the shade.
The individual pixels are microscopic. That they work at all is amazing let alone being capable of high lumen output with extremely excellent color/gamma rendering.
The AMOLED matrix has 10's of thousands of active solid state components not just the OLED pixels themselves. All are hest sensitive plus the fact the display is helping to dissipate mobo heat while producing heat of it's own. The most heat sensitive component, the OLED is smack on top of this glass heatsink*.
Direct sunlight in especially high ambient temperatures is a real bad plan. You can fry any display like this.
Know, understand and respect their limitations. You will be rewarded with a long lived gorgeous display.
*glass is a good thermal insulator. Do tempered glass protective screens increase the thermal burden? Most likely. If cool at first the added mass will be protective but once the device (or the sun) heats that mass up things will go down hill from there and the display temperature will rapidly climb.
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And this was me think you lived in the Mojave desert.