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Did you come from Nexus 6p?

I currently have a 6p and it´s not performing to full potential anymore, and i want to upgrade soon..... Did any of you go from 6p to opt3?

This phone performs 100 times better, so glad I sold the Nexus 6p to buy it.

Yes, my nexus6P died because he bootloop, I bought a oneplus3T, it was a great device, I like him.

Yes, I sold my RMA 6P because of battery issues. The OP3T is much, much faster than the 6P, it's like lightning compared to it. Battery life is also much better, I get around 6.30hrs SOT compared to the 4+on the 6P. The OP3T is let down by its screen, I find the 1080 pentile screen quite ugly and I can see it grainy compared to the 6P. I also find the 6P camera to be better especially in low light. So there are pluses and minuses to both phones.

I also jumped ship 2 days a go. So far i really love it, it looks much better and i really love the fingerprint scanner at the front..
It indeed performs much better and battery seems to be much better as well. Cameraman the won't be as good as the Nexus but it won't be a huge difference. I haven't compared them myself though. So far I'm trying some roms to see which one i like the most. The screen is just great, nice colours as well. 1080p is a plus for a mobile device, the screens are way too small to see the difference between a qhd screen. And a qhd screen consumes a lot of battery.
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Pollie81 said:
I also jumped ship 2 days a go. So far i really love it, it looks much better and i really love the fingerprint scanner at the front..
It indeed performs much better and battery seems to be much better as well. Cameraman the won't be as good as the Nexus but it won't be a huge difference. I haven't compared them myself though. So far I'm trying some roms to see which one i like the most. The screen is just great, nice colours as well. 1080p is a plus for a mobile device, the screens are way too small to see the difference between a qhd screen. And a qhd screen consumes a lot of battery.
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Modern day QHD screens don't use anymore battery than poor quality 1080 panels. It's a myth. The modern Samsung QHD panels use less power now than the poor quality 1080 panels used in the OP3. The S7 Edge can easily get over 7hours SOT and that's comparable to the OP3.

B3501 said:
Modern day QHD screens don't use anymore battery than poor quality 1080 panels. It's a myth. The modern Samsung QHD panels use less power now than the poor quality 1080 panels used in the OP3. The S7 Edge can easily get over 7hours SOT and that's comparable to the OP3.
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If the screen itself consume less power its another thing. But the GPU has to work more on a QHD panel.

Migdilu said:
If the screen itself consume less power its another thing. But the GPU has to work more on a QHD panel.
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That affects performance then, not battery drain. As I said, the S7 Edge has similar battery drain to the 3T and that's a QHD display.

B3501 said:
That affects performance then, not battery drain. As I said, the S7 Edge has similar battery drain to the 3T and that's a QHD display.
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Depends on the gpu behavior. It probably will affect battery drain because the GPU will work harder to get nice performance, it will affect performance in heavy tasks for the GPU, like heavy games. But its always affecting battery, not too much of course, but it does.
Also, I repeat, maybe the panel uses less power, that is a different thing.

I have both, but iam using oneplu3t more now borh have their profs and cons cam is no comperison on n6p much better fingerprint accuracy and placing on the back and stereo speakers goes to 6p
Speed bettery life screen is no issue here on 3t nothrotling build quality 6 gigs ram so here what ithink if the cam were good like 6p itwould be clear winner

I have both, i bought 1+ 3t recently and im using it as my daily driver, but im missing the stereo speakers and the camera performance, otherwise, the battery and phone performace is outstanding...i may return back to nexus 6p due to better development foundation
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I'm in between selling my 6p and waiting for the 3t to ship. I'm jumping because of main board and software issues and do not want to be stuck with a dead out of warranty phone. I will miss the speakers for sure and am a little concerned about the camera. Is it isolated or across the board slow?
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kenhicg said:
I'm in between selling my 6p and waiting for the 3t to ship. I'm jumping because of main board and software issues and do not want to be stuck with a dead out of warranty phone. I will miss the speakers for sure and am a little concerned about the camera. Is it isolated or across the board slow?
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The camera isn't slow, it just takes poorer quality photos than the 6P. It's fast when taking them though.

B3501 said:
The camera isn't slow, it just takes poorer quality photos than the 6P. It's fast when taking them though.
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I would have thought it would be better. How much worse is it?
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kenhicg said:
I would have thought it would be better. How much worse is it?
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It's struggles in low light and also struggles in general to focus. In bright light it's decent. The 6P is a better camera overall.

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It's struggles in low light and also struggles in general to focus. In bright light it's decent. The 6P is a better camera overall.
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Well that kind of sucks but oh well.
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Pixel Camera to Note 8 Camera Thoughts

If you owned a Pixel or Pixel XL previously and now have the Note 8, what are your thoughts on the camera? I adore the camera on the Pixel because without tweaking anything, I know I can get a fantastic picture anytime. No shutter lag, good color, little blur. How's this compare? Anyone who has kids especially, because those moving targets are tricky but important to me!

I've seen countless of comparisons and here is my conclusion:
Daylight - Pixel wins due to better dynamic range
Room light - Somewhat of a tie. Pixel has better dynamic range but can introduce some noise and blurriness due to lack of OIS and high ISO.
Lowlight - Note8 wins here with much less blur, and noise.
Camera app - Note8 wins easily. Pro mode.
Video - Note8 overall wins this category. Better details in 4K mode, and better stabilization in 1440p/1080p mode.
Audio - Easily the Note8/S8. Pixel has a really ****ty mic and Samsung devices often have one of the best mics even better than LG and HTC's.

One thing... The Pixel is a ugly phone. Probably one of the ugliest phone out there. This is coming from a die hard Nexus user. Once they made the pixel I was out for life.
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jason504 said:
One thing... The Pixel is a ugly phone. Probably one of the ugliest phone out there. This is coming from a die hard Nexus user. Once they made the pixel I was out for life.
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Seriously, what does this have to do with the camera?

jal3223 said:
Seriously, what does this have to do with the camera?
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I don't care had to say it.
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Coming from someone who had the pixel, I prefer the note 8 camera better. I think it has to do with the over saturation Samsung does with their picture. They pop and things stand out big time. I know a lot of people don't like this, as its not a true depiction of the subject you are taking a picture of

Has anyone tried loading the Google camera apk with hdr auto that was floating around XDA?

jason504 said:
One thing... The Pixel is a ugly phone. Probably one of the ugliest phone out there. This is coming from a die hard Nexus user. Once they made the pixel I was out for life.
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Random, but okay. I put cases in my phones so I don't care what the back looks like. It's easily the best phone I've ever owned so I don't care about something that is silly to me, like looks. It's a phone. Rarely does anyone care what a phone looks like (except maybe the HTC U11).

Is the OnePlus 3T still a great phone one year later?

Hello again! I've been looking at the OnePlus 3T for a while now, but I didn't want to jump the gun yet.
It was a steady $500 CAD here in Canada for a 64GB and I found a 128GB OnePlus 3T that comes with 2 cases,
for $480 CAD, now, the phone has been out for almost exactly one year now and it's only now $120 off, so this
leads me to my questions, should I go ahead and purchase it? Is it still a great choice, one year later?

As long as you don't need the fake bokeh effect that a dual camera setup gives, you won't regret buying this phone.

I've had mine since April and still love it. Even though that new Pixel XL 2 is tempting, I essentially will do the same thing on both phone and can't justify the money when my 3t is still running excellent

FadedAssassiin said:
.... Is it still a great choice, one year later?
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Yes it is. I bought mine in December and it is one of the best purchases that I have made.
To elaborate, I have been mostly stock except for magisk root, and never faced any issues with this device. I use it for work and play, and it never disappoints. I would not change this phone except maybe for the iPhone X (but a $1000+ phone? screw that)

I came in late to the OP3/3T game and got mine in June of this year and haven't looked back since. Sure I 'want' a Pixel 2 XL but damn that price... The 3T has been amazing to me. I've got mine unlocked, using FreedomOS CE with Magisk, AdAway, Substratum (Ozone & Swift Dark), Nova Launcher with Prime & Google Companion, Google Pixel Dialer/Contacts, Google Pixel 2 Live Wallpaper and a slew of other minor things here and there. OnePlus gives you serious freedom and the devs are already pushing hard on custom O ROMs. If you're here on XDA you most likely enjoy tinkering and this phone will let you go above and beyond simply because of the great folks in the various forums and communities let alone the ease to do so because of OnePlus keeping it open.
Side note: You can get the fake bokeh effect easily by using Google Camera with a Magisk Module to fix the crash bug. Neat stuff but I just use the included OnePlus Camera myself.

How much more is the 5? I love my 3t and couldn't be happier with it.

CJ-Wylde said:
I came in late to the OP3/3T game and got mine in June of this year and haven't looked back since. Sure I 'want' a Pixel 2 XL but damn that price... The 3T has been amazing to me. I've got mine unlocked, using FreedomOS CE with Magisk, AdAway, Substratum (Ozone & Swift Dark), Nova Launcher with Prime & Google Companion, Google Pixel Dialer/Contacts, Google Pixel 2 Live Wallpaper and a slew of other minor things here and there. OnePlus gives you serious freedom and the devs are already pushing hard on custom O ROMs. If you're here on XDA you most likely enjoy tinkering and this phone will let you go above and beyond simply because of the great folks in the various forums and communities let alone the ease to do so because of OnePlus keeping it open.
Side note: You can get the fake bokeh effect easily by using Google Camera with a Magisk Module to fix the crash bug. Neat stuff but I just use the included OnePlus Camera myself.
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How do we get fake bokeh with Google camera? I use it and I'm not able to get it!!

srharshajava said:
How do we get fake bokeh with Google camera? I use it and I'm not able to get it!!
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It's called Lens Blur

CJ-Wylde said:
It's called Lens Blur
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Lena blur is not potrait mode!!

3T is still a great phone whose specs are being duplicated by major manufacturers.

srharshajava said:
Lena blur is not potrait mode!!
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No it's not, it's a fake bokeh effect. It's not all that great, but it's all we have if using Google Camera.

FadedAssassiin said:
Hello again! I've been looking at the OnePlus 3T for a while now, but I didn't want to jump the gun yet.
It was a steady $500 CAD here in Canada for a 64GB and I found a 128GB OnePlus 3T that comes with 2 cases,
for $480 CAD, now, the phone has been out for almost exactly one year now and it's only now $120 off, so this
leads me to my questions, should I go ahead and purchase it? Is it still a great choice, one year later?
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You're probably going to get a lot of us fan-boy-ing about it. Do you have any questions about it in particular? As far as I'm concerned, it's the best phone I've ever had & may betray my normal cycle of purchasing phones (every 2-2.5 years) and just hold onto it.
You're super free with the software. People say it's "unbrickable" (though I just had the scariest experience of my entire custom-flashing-life of the last 7ish years, but it was resolved either way). No removable battery & expandable storage sucks dongers but that's the trend regardless. The specs are far beyond what's needed for a telephone if you ask me. The price for what you get in hardware + software freedom is craziness (in a good way).
The ONLY THING is if you really need amazing camera HARDWARE, then you should be looking at Samsung, Apple, or the new Pixels. That being said, there are many camera mods enabling you to use (on custom ROMs) the OnePlus camera, the Pixel camera with HDR+, the Snapdragon camera, and if you aren't already aware, learning how to use Manual mode can do wonders...

purplepenguin said:
You're probably going to get a lot of us fan-boy-ing about it. Do you have any questions about it in particular? As far as I'm concerned, it's the best phone I've ever had & may betray my normal cycle of purchasing phones (every 2-2.5 years) and just hold onto it.
You're super free with the software. People say it's "unbrickable" (though I just had the scariest experience of my entire custom-flashing-life of the last 7ish years, but it was resolved either way). No removable battery & expandable storage sucks dongers but that's the trend regardless. The specs are far beyond what's needed for a telephone if you ask me. The price for what you get in hardware + software freedom is craziness (in a good way).
The ONLY THING is if you really need amazing camera HARDWARE, then you should be looking at Samsung, Apple, or the new Pixels. That being said, there are many camera mods enabling you to use (on custom ROMs) the OnePlus camera, the Pixel camera with HDR+, the Snapdragon camera, and if you aren't already aware, learning how to use Manual mode can do wonders...
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I am just looking for a speedier phone than I have right now, the Samsung Galaxy Note 4, which I am sure is a definite night and day difference in performance, the OnePlus 3T caught my eye back in February, and the price seemed quite good for such a stunning phone. I do have a few questions, how do you rate the fingerprint sensor? Is it fast or super fast, compared to maybe a iPhone 6S or 7, but that might be stretching it. How does the camera do at night? In a poorly lit room? Thanks for the reply!

SourPower said:
How much more is the 5? I love my 3t and couldn't be happier with it.
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Sorry for the late reply! The OnePlus 5 is going for $720 Canadian Dollars for the 64GB, whilst the used OnePlus 3T 128GB is going for $480 Canadian Dollars.

FadedAssassiin said:
I am just looking for a speedier phone than I have right now, the Samsung Galaxy Note 4, which I am sure is a definite night and day difference in performance, the OnePlus 3T caught my eye back in February, and the price seemed quite good for such a stunning phone. I do have a few questions, how do you rate the fingerprint sensor? Is it fast or super fast, compared to maybe a iPhone 6S or 7, but that might be stretching it. How does the camera do at night? In a poorly lit room? Thanks for the reply!
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I'm the wrong dude for both of those questions probably. I only messed with fingerprint a littttttle bit on my s5. Compared to that, OP3T is blazing fast.
For the camera, have barely used it honestly! lol Good luck!

FadedAssassiin said:
I am just looking for a speedier phone than I have right now, the Samsung Galaxy Note 4, which I am sure is a definite night and day difference in performance, the OnePlus 3T caught my eye back in February, and the price seemed quite good for such a stunning phone. I do have a few questions, how do you rate the fingerprint sensor? Is it fast or super fast, compared to maybe a iPhone 6S or 7, but that might be stretching it. How does the camera do at night? In a poorly lit room? Thanks for the reply!
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I am using stock OOS and the fingerprint is blazing fast.
Regarding the night camera, installing the Google modded apk is the way to go. It offers fantastic night shots.
Unleashed by ONEPLUS 3T rooted

Absolutely! I love it like a child. It's my baby.
I have often said to OnePlus that their customer's service should favorably compare to the phones they produce. Their customers service, in a word, is awful. It is somewhat heartening that it is getting better.
They produce a wonderful product. Their support leaves a little more time, I hope. I have never come across a situation quite like this. The quality of their products far exceeds their support. I think. in time that situation will change. They will improve or fail and that would be a shame.
XDA could learn a lesson from what I said about OnePlus. Their product is truth. Their support also leaves something to be considered.

CJ-Wylde said:
No it's not, it's a fake bokeh effect. It's not all that great, but it's all we have if using Google Camera.
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Portrait mode (with dual camera) is fake bokeh also. Just not as fake. It's true, the Google lens blur often results in "fuzzy" edges on the subject, or obviously fake/cheesy looking Photo-chopped effect.

redpoint73 said:
Portrait mode (with dual camera) is fake bokeh also. Just not as fake. It's true, the Google lens blur often results in "fuzzy" edges on the subject, or obviously fake/cheesy looking Photo-chopped effect.
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Yeah, it's as good as we can get with the single-lens and OP / OP3T setup. I don't use it even though it's neat for up-close 'macro' like shots, but the fakeness of it does show through most of the time. I'm saving now to get another DSLR and do love my OP3T for quick on-the-go snaps. It is good for that, the picture quality is leaps above most phones out there, and for it's price point, not really anything to compare to it.

srharshajava said:
Lena blur is not potrait mode!!
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Not literally, no. But "portrait mode" is just an Apple baloney marketing name for "fake bokeh effect". Now every phone manufacturer feels like they need dual camera and "portrait mode" (which I'm sure Apple is suing them for using that name). Even dual camera is just software trickery (in conjunction with dual camera) to fake a bokeh effect that will never be possible with the focal length of a smartphone camera.
Obviously, you won't get the exact same effect as a phone that has dual camera (OP5, iPhone plus, etc.).
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FadedAssassiin said:
Is it still a great choice, one year later?
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Back to the original question: I would say YES it's still a great phone.
I was unimpressed with the OP5, with its mostly incremental improvements, and the "jelly effect". We've actually seen a number of folks on this forum, looking to get a new phone, and opting for the 3T instead of the 5.
Of course there are other, impressive options (Pixel 2, Galaxy S8) with their own pros and cons. But of course they are quite expensive, and don't measure up to the shear value of the 3T; with its combination of build quality, value, and dev community here on XDA.
I don't find myself yearning for the "latest and greatest" phone yet. Maybe next year. The 3T is holding it's own quite well, and still a very solid and capable device.

Pixel 3/3 XL vs 6T, from people who actually owned both

It seems quite a few people in this 6T group also own the Pixel 3 or 3XL. Other than the lower price of the 6T and the better camera of the Pixel. Which one do you all think is the better phone all around and why?
The reason I ask is that BestBuy will be offering $200 off the Pixel 3/3 XL during Black Friday which would put the Pixel price in line (close enough) with the 6T. With that being said, which phone would you buy for around the same price?

mjnoles1 said:
It seems quite a few people in this 6T group also own the Pixel 3 or 3XL. Other than the lower price of the 6T and the better camera of the Pixel. Which one do you all think is the better phone all around and why?
The reason I ask is that BestBuy will be offering $200 off the Pixel 3/3 XL during Black Friday which would put the Pixel price in line (close enough) with the 6T. With that being said, which phone would you buy for around the same price?
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I own both and it's a tough toss up. Each one of them have their strengths and weaknesses. Right now the Pixel 3 XL has a horrible RAM management problem (hopefully Google will fix that with an update) and the OnePlus 6T has 8 gigs of RAM.
The camera on the Pixel 3 XL is just so much better than the OnePlus 6T, not that the OnePlus camera is bad. When I know I'm going to be taking a lot of pictures I'm taking my Pixel 3 XL with me.
The notch on the Pixel 3 XL basically goes away with Nacho Notch while the notch on the OnePlus 6T is actually ok.
Performance on both of them is basically the same. The haptic feedback on the Pixel 3XL is one of the best on any smartphone.
I guess if I could only buy one it would probably be the Pixel 3XL, and I'm saying that as I'm using my OnePlus as my daily.

bp328i said:
I own both and it's a tough toss up. Each one of them have their strengths and weaknesses. Right now the Pixel 3 XL has a horrible RAM management problem (hopefully Google will fix that with an update) and the OnePlus 6T has 8 gigs of RAM.
The camera on the Pixel 3 XL is just so much better than the OnePlus 6T, not that the OnePlus camera is bad. When I know I'm going to be taking a lot of pictures I'm taking my Pixel 3 XL with me.
The notch on the Pixel 3 XL basically goes away with Nacho Notch while the notch on the OnePlus 6T is actually ok.
Performance on both of them is basically the same. The haptic feedback on the Pixel 3XL is one of the best on any smartphone.
I guess if I could only buy one it would probably be the Pixel 3XL, and I'm saying that as I'm using my OnePlus as my daily.
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What about battery life between the two, that is worrying me about the 3 or 3XL. The 6T seems to have respectable battery life, while the Pixel seems to struggle in that category.
Also, you stated performance on both of them is basically the same. That is another worry for me in regard to the Pixel, as it seems the 6T blows out the Pixel in raw numbers when the review sites do tests, does that translate to day-to-day usage?
Do you find the 4GB in the Pixel lags behind the 8GB in the 6T?
Are you using both phones on the same carrier? If so, how is the reception/signal strength between the two?
If you would pick the Pixel as you wrote, then why are you using your OnePlus as your daily?

bp328i said:
I own both and it's a tough toss up. Each one of them have their strengths and weaknesses. Right now the Pixel 3 XL has a horrible RAM management problem (hopefully Google will fix that with an update) and the OnePlus 6T has 8 gigs of RAM.
Agreed and don't think 4gb will be an issue for normal users. I do believe OP will always hold more in memory.
The camera on the Pixel 3 XL is just so much better than the OnePlus 6T, not that the OnePlus camera is bad. When I know I'm going to be taking a lot of pictures I'm taking my Pixel 3 XL with me.
Again agree it's a world of difference but having a ported camera from Pixel helps and for me solves the issue.
The notch on the Pixel 3 XL basically goes away with Nacho Notch while the notch on the OnePlus 6T is actually ok.
I don't hate the notch on the pixel unless I watch full screen YouTube or something. 6t is not intrusive ever for me. That said I prefer the notch there then having Nacho.
Performance on both of them is basically the same. The haptic feedback on the Pixel 3XL is one of the best on any smartphone.
Disagree slightly overall because of the memory issue the pixel feels and acts faster when switching apps etc. I had to trlurn off adaptive battery so that pixel runs smooth at all otherwise it would refresh screen all the time. Haptic feedback is really nice in pixel.
I guess if I could only buy one it would probably be the Pixel 3XL, and I'm saying that as I'm using my OnePlus as my daily.
I returned the pixel and kept OP.
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Battery on OP WAY better then xl too. Screen better on pixel...feel and build I prefer the pixel too. Not that there is anything wrong with OP just the pixel is nice. I hate not having wireless charging and proprietary charging but the charging is soooo fast. Day to day speed is or will be the same on both imo once Google fixes ram issue. Whatever frustrations I have with OP5t that made me go to pixel 2 xl are now gone on the 6t and the software changes op made are very nice that and their guesture makes it feel like true full screen phone just looks like next gen.

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What about battery life between the two, that is worrying me about the 3 or 3XL. The 6T seems to have respectable battery life, while the Pixel seems to struggle in that category.
Also, you stated performance on both of them is basically the same. That is another worry for me in regard to the Pixel, as it seems the 6T blows out the Pixel in raw numbers when the review sites do tests, does that translate to day-to-day usage?
Do you find the 4GB in the Pixel lags behind the 8GB in the 6T?
I have Verizon, which carrier do you have? If Verizon, how is the reception/signal strength between the two?
If you would pick the Pixel as you wrote, then why are you using your OnePlus as your daily?
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I get all day battery life on both phones, I would have to say the OnePlus is a little bit better on battery life but I've never had to look for a plug while using my Pixel.
The reason why review sites are showing that the OnePlus numbers are beating the Pixel is because Google underclocked the Snapdragon 845, a custom kernel will fix that. It really does not translate in day-to-day use. The Pixel is as smooth of a phone as you are going to find.
I personally don't think the 4 gigs of RAM are going to make that much of a difference once Google fixes the RAM management problem.
T-Mobile here.
I said if I could only buy one. I will switch between phones weekly because I get bored. I used my Pixel for about 2 weeks and now I'm using my OnePlus.
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Battery on OP WAY better then xl too. Screen better on pixel...feel and build I prefer the pixel too. Not that there is anything wrong with OP just the pixel is nice. I hate not having wireless charging and proprietary charging but the charging is soooo fast. Day to day speed is or will be the same on both imo once Google fixes ram issue.
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I get all day battery life on both phones, I would have to say the OnePlus is a little bit better on battery life but I've never had to look for a plug while using my Pixel.
The reason why review sites are showing that the OnePlus numbers are beating the Pixel is because Google underclocked the Snapdragon 845, a custom kernel will fix that. It really does not translate in day-to-day use. The Pixel is as smooth of a phone as you are going to find.
I personally don't think the 4 gigs of RAM are going to make that much of a difference once Google fixes the RAM management problem.
T-Mobile here.
I said if I could only buy one. I will switch between phones weekly because I get bored. I used my Pixel for about 2 weeks and now I'm using my OnePlus.
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Do you use both on T-Mobile? Can you let me know how the signal strength/reception is on both phones?

The two big cons...
You get used to the notch they say, and I did. What I didn't get used to was the incredible waste of space to either side of it. They could have stacked two full rows of notifications in there and it would fit, not sort of fit, fit. As it is that space is wasted and I kept seeing that and in turn that would make me "see" or notice the notch. I'd seriously fire whoever made the choices on the notification area because it doesn't end there. unlike here and elsewhere if you decide to hide the notch it pushes the notifications down into the screen below the notch giving you a huge empty forehead and the screen that remains is actually less than the 5T, seriously, I had them side by side and actual usable screen is less with the notch hidden. Go back visible notch and you get to see all that wasted space again, for me there was no win. Also if you watch a video the 6T notch is like a pimple on your own nose and soon forgotten, do it on the Pixel and it's a huge pimple on your bosses nose that you have to actively try and pretend isn't there. Will you be the same? Some say yes, some say no, for me it was a definite no.
Then you have the ram management or lack of ram, I'm not going to argue over which it is and don't care. Going into recents pretty much meant waiting for the app to reopen which is so 2014; it's another thing that drove me crazy. I already knew I was running in the upper 5s of used ram with my 5T so while I do expect it would have got better both with a Goog fix and in the roms I'm pretty sure it will never be as good as it is here, which is to say flawless. Apps pretty much just pop open every time, not sure if I can recall a single app redraw so far.
Then you've got the recents/app drawer cludge which combines with the worst gestures I've ever encountered. I'm sure you've seen it in videos so I'm not going to try and paint a picture, I will say it's worse in use than it appears in a review. This one is easily fixed by installing a third party launcher and then getting rid of Googs idiotic gestures for one of the options off the market. To sum it up, the whole purpose of nav gestures is to get rid of the nav bar which gives you useable space on screen. Think about it, no gesture can ever really be easier than hitting an icon, the best they can do is equal that ease so failing to give you the screen space means you made someones life harder and gave them nothing. Total fail. Someone should be fired fail. If I were in charge of the person who sigined off on this nav/recents/gesture cludge I would fire him. No notice, excorted out of the building right now firing. The escort would be two thugs who hit his head on every hard point between his office and the curb where he was tossed. They're that bad.
So now you're thinking I hated the phone, not true, lets get into the pros...
The screen is beautiful everywhere it isn't being wasted or cut into by a cancerous tumer. I had mine up against a 6T in the store and there is no question where the better screen quality lies, it's all Pixel in that department. Wasn't just me saying that, all the store guys where over because the store was empty and they hadn't seen a Pixel in the flesh. All of us were in agreement.
You've also got the sofware experience. it's all slick and refined in a way that is unmatched in the Android ecosystem. The dialer with it's screening, spam block, and so on, the music id on the lock, etc. The phone may seem feature poor but in use it is a very pleasant device to own.
The camera is top tier. I think Goog is running out of picture refinement in software though because you can see areas like telephoto where phones with dedicated glass are getting better results now. They have added some useful features on the other hand, for example being able to pick a different picture besides the one you clicked actually works. Those who have kids will recall how getting a good photo can be a trail, they're in focus but you missed the moment, you caught the moment but it couldn't quite focus on a target that was moving fast, etc. I was able to get a few pictures of my grandkids that would have been junk but were salvaged by the feature. What I like about the camera is something it shares with the latest from Samsung and Apple, you can just point it at something and have a good expectation of a decent shot. I'm not talking art, I'm saying you got what was there and it's in focus with reasonably accurate color. It's a camera you can use without skills and a camera you can trust.
All in all I really liked the Pixel in use but the hardware is behind the curve and no matter how shiny you make it the hardware turd still lies below the polish. I went into a Tmo store to scope the 6T and when I went home I immediately called Fi and returned the phone and ordered a 6T as soon as I got done with that call. If I had my choice I'd get a 6T that had the Goog rom on it and with the higher quality screen from the Pixel but I didn't, I had to choose one before I ran out of the return window. I really couldn't get past that notch or more particularly the wasted space beside it. Seeing it next to the 6T and 5T really put it into perspective for me, what an utter fail when a year old mid range phone has more useable space than a brand new 1000 dollar flagship. I'll be a potential customer for the Pixel 4 assuming they get their hardware up to snuff with other flagships, the software experience was IMO best in class.

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Do you use both on T-Mobile? Can you let me know how the signal strength/reception is on both phones?
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Yes T-Mobile on both, I have two lines with them. First screenshot is the OnePlus, second is the Pixel.
The Pixel was faster on two but not by much.

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Yes T-Mobile on both, I have two lines with them. First screenshot is the OnePlus, second is the Pixel.
The Pixel was faster on two but not by much.
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Sorry, I should of been more clear in my question. I was referring to the actual signal strength for phone calls, etc. Do you notice if one phone or the other holds signals stronger than the other? Do you notice one phone may not have a signal while the other phone still has a signal?

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Sorry, I should of been more clear in my question. I was referring to the actual signal strength for phone calls, etc. Do you notice if one phone or the other holds signals stronger than the other? Do you notice one phone may not have a signal while the other phone still has a signal?
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that will be a little tougher to answer because I don't take both phones with me normally but I will carry them both for the next couple of days just to look that stuff over.
I haven't had an issue on either one with signal.

Hard to say, but the fact that I have double the Ram, a bigger battery, arguably better notch design, 4x the storage for about $300 less (depends on tax rate where you live.)
Pixel 3 XL has dual speakers, but they don't sound good at all. Wireless charging is a plus, but not a deal breaker. Higher resolution screen, but it isn't a huge difference (and I care about that a lot.) Active edges is pointless when you have OK Google and holding the home button does the same thing. Camera is AMAZING (but where tf is 60fps???), even at night without Night Shot, but the wide angle setup on the front reminds me of the LG V20 Wide angle back lens, very fishy. Battery lasts all day so that's cool, but no chance of 2 day battery life without being strict on usage. Stock and prioritized software updates are awesome, but OxygenOS is always going to have the same, if not more feature (Always on display is helpful maybe 70% of my experiences.) Again, the speaker setup is such a disappointment.
OnePlus 6T has a single speaker setup, but it sounds clearer and possibly even louder. But it is downward firing rather than forward. Hard to say if the camera is better because I haven't been about to directly compare it, but low light images are amazing, even without the night mode on. Telephoto would have been nice, but neither phone has it. The OnePlus 6T can do 4k60fps and 1080p60fps video, while the Pixel 3 XL can only do 1080p60fps, BUT YOU CAN'T SET IT TO PERMANENTLY FILM 60FPS (look it up, it's sad). Front camera works, but the Pixel 3 XL's focuses, so the Pixel 3 XL can capture more quality, regardless of the MP count. Battery is larger and should get better battery life, and so far has proven to be the case. The chin on the bottom is almost non existent, and you rarely notice it when using the phone. Fingerprint scanner under the screen is perfect for checking your phone on the desk, but isn't as accurate as the Pixel 3 XL (though the speed is pretty much the same when it is working, which for me is ~75% of the time.) Design is all opinion based, but the OP6T seems to be easier to hold in the hands and less slippery, also seems lighter, even though it is almost the same weight. Again, the notch is nicer looking on here when compared to the Pixel 3 XL.
Clearly the winner for the money is the OnePlus 6T, but the Pixel 3 XL holds up if you don't care about the price. If the OnePlus 6T has dual speakers I would say it's the winner regardless of price.
Pixel 3 XL for the CAMERA, SCREEN, WIRELESS CHARGING
OnePlus 6T for the STORAGE/MEMORY, SOFTWARE, DESIGN, FINGERPRINT SCANNER, BATTERY, 60FPS RECORDING (lol)

Something else, which is why I returned my pixel3xl - the microphone quality is aweful. Look on youtube for vids, but it's the same ****ty quality as the pixel2. Combined with a notch the size of kentucky, no facial unlock, meh battery life, disastrous memory management, and camera that saves photos only sometimes, it is a very Beta device and in my opinion worse than the 6t even at the same price. Using the Gcam on the 6t gives me nearly same photo quality so this is a tossup.

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Something else, which is why I returned my pixel3xl - the microphone quality is aweful. Look on youtube for vids, but it's the same ****ty quality as the pixel2. Combined with a notch the size of kentucky, no facial unlock, meh battery life, disastrous memory management, and camera that saves photos only sometimes, it is a very Beta device and in my opinion worse than the 6t even at the same price. Using the Gcam on the 6t gives me nearly same photo quality so this is a tossup.
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But gcam on 6T is not up to Pixel 3 level yet, we can only hope it will reach there

I'm actually thinking of picking up the 3xl myself I was going to sell my iPhone X which I finally upgraded from that abomination of a "phone" to the 6T and just have it laying around. Then was going to choose which I wanted to keep the 3xl or 6T or both. I personally think the camera is pretty bad. I mean it catches details but the focus is horrendous. The other day I was trying to take a video of the monitor to show the specs etc of a computer I was selling, this damn thing wouldn't focus for it's life just kept refocusing every couple of seconds, same thing with close up photos. It's also very much laggy, especially in video compared to my iPhone X. Largely noticeable in snap chat, you can't quickly move the phone otherwise it'll be all blur. Not sure if this is something everyone is experiencing or just my device. This is where the 3xl come in, amazing camera, pure Google, notch? As iPhone X owner I couldn't care less, build quality (6T feels premium-ishh). But from what you guys are saying apparently it's awful phone so now I'm confused as if I should or shouldn't get it.

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I'm actually thinking of picking up the 3xl myself I was going to sell my iPhone X which I finally upgraded from that abomination of a "phone" to the 6T and just have it laying around. Then was going to choose which I wanted to keep the 3xl or 6T or both. I personally think the camera is pretty bad. I mean it catches details but the focus is horrendous. The other day I was trying to take a video of the monitor to show the specs etc of a computer I was selling, this damn thing wouldn't focus for it's life just kept refocusing every couple of seconds, same thing with close up photos. It's also very much laggy, especially in video compared to my iPhone X. Largely noticeable in snap chat, you can't quickly move the phone otherwise it'll be all blur. Not sure if this is something everyone is experiencing or just my device. This is where the 3xl come in, amazing camera, pure Google, notch? As iPhone X owner I couldn't care less, build quality (6T feels premium-ishh). But from what you guys are saying apparently it's awful phone so now I'm confused as if I should or shouldn't get it.
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Pixel 3 XL is not awful by any means.. if you are not bothered about notch, you will be fine... I was in same dilemma whether to get 3 XL or 6T and got 6T.. I will be returning 6T and getting 3 XL... Sole reason is that I am not getting notifications from certain apps on 6T even after disabling all possible settings...but man this OP 6T is amazing in every other aspect.. I can live with 6T with gcam but missing notifications for my critical apps is a no-go for me

Pixel 3 XL is way better. Screen, Speakers, Camera, Update. You cant compare both phone. Easy if you dont care about money go for Pixel and if you do go for oneplus. Google software is well optimized. Battery consumtion is less. The idle drain is less. Pixel 3 XL is the overall packaged. I dont know but i cant see myself using oneplus as my daily driver. Number on the paper is not important.

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Yes T-Mobile on both, I have two lines with them. First screenshot is the OnePlus, second is the Pixel.
The Pixel was faster on two but not by much.
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Wow how crappy LTE do you have in the US? See screenshot.
Norway - OnePlus 6T

olejonbj said:
Wow how crappy LTE do you have in the US? See screenshot.
Norway - OnePlus 6T
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Yeah I don't get real high speeds at my house. I live like 2 minutes from the beach. When I go further inland I'm usually up above 100 Mbps.
But yeah I don't think I've ever seen the speed you posted.

keaheng said:
Pixel 3 XL is way better. Screen, Speakers, Camera, Update. You cant compare both phone. Easy if you dont care about money go for Pixel and if you do go for oneplus. Google software is well optimized. Battery consumtion is less. The idle drain is less. Pixel 3 XL is the overall packaged. I dont know but i cant see myself using oneplus as my daily driver. Number on the paper is not important.
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That notch though.. I had everything going for Pixel 3 XL.. but not sure if I can tolerate that notch.. am using OnePlus 6T now and it definitely feels so futuristic...

keaheng said:
Pixel 3 XL is way better. Screen, Speakers, Camera, Update. You cant compare both phone. Easy if you dont care about money go for Pixel and if you do go for oneplus. Google software is well optimized. Battery consumtion is less. The idle drain is less. Pixel 3 XL is the overall packaged. I dont know but i cant see myself using oneplus as my daily driver. Number on the paper is not important.
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I personally like oxygen OS better. It's stock with the perfect tweaks to it. And the ram management is far better. My pixels would close my messaging app when that was the ONLY app in my background. So damn annoying.
Performance and battery life is most essential to me. 6t takes both

Pixel 5 or OnePlus 8T

Hello
i'm currently using Galaxy S9+ and i'm thinking to upgrade to. new device. I don't really know which device i should go for.

I love the p5. Perfect size, beautiful screen, best camera, and finally and INSANE battery.
I upgraded to the p5 from the p4 mainly for battery and it was completely worth it. It's impossible for me to kill it in one day.

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Hello
i'm currently using Galaxy S9+ and i'm thinking to upgrade to. new device. I don't really know which device i should go for.
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I sold my oneplus 8 pro to get a pixel 5...the oneplus is not good with camera quality

Alex-V said:
I sold my oneplus 8 pro to get a pixel 5...the oneplus is not good with camera quality
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i don't really care that much about camera quality

-juanito- said:
i don't really care that much about camera quality
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Why the hell u considering pixel then?

Alex-V said:
I sold my oneplus 8 pro to get a pixel 5...the oneplus is not good with camera quality
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Why the hell u considering pixel then?
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Faster updates, better secreen colors (except the 90Hz), better battery i guess and the design is better

Go for oneplus 8t then. Battery the same from what I see. Updates regular,way faster device,better screen from Samsung than this P-oled.

Go for the 5

Yeah, go for the P5 ... its a solid phone and you'll always be the first getting Android updates.
I come from OnePlus and their update procedure and policy is a mess, especially when your phone gets older. Its the same with other brands, too, as far as I heard.

I cant speak for the 8t but i came from 7t to a Pixel 5 and i don't regret it at all. Oneplus updates are bi-monthly and your phone soon starts dropping down the priority list as they release new phones. The last straw for me was after 12 months of ownership 2 camera bugs were not fixed, photos taken with the ultrawide were nearly always blurred when taking landscapes which is kind of the point of an ultrawide.

The pixel may be a better upgrade now...
Unless you want to wait for the OnePlus 9 around March....

I used OnePlus phones the last couple of years and they are on a steep downhill in my opinion.
More and more devices but the support is getting less by the minute. And if you even get an update they're addressing not important things.
As on the Nord they were working on the macro lens. ?
Coming from the 7T pro and Nord i really love and enjoy my Pixel 5. For me it's almost perfect, the only thing i really dislike are the stereo speakers. They should have been much better!
I personally love the size, it feels good and looks good.
It's light, superb software and performance and indeed insane battery life!
Support and camera are the parts where OnePlus really messes up, for everything else they still make great products for decent prices.

LOL, did you ask in the OnePlus forum?

I would go with the p5 but only when it's on sale, definitely not at $700. The OnePlus is technically a better value for the price but Google is much better about fixing bugs and doing it quickly than OnePlus by a long shot.

Go with Pixel ... OP's update policies, procedures and delays are getting worse and worse, with a Pixel you get updates on time every single month. I myself come from OP, so I know what I'm saying.

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I used OnePlus phones the last couple of years and they are on a steep downhill in my opinion.
More and more devices but the support is getting less by the minute. And if you even get an update they're addressing not important things.
As on the Nord they were working on the macro lens. ?
Coming from the 7T pro and Nord i really love and enjoy my Pixel 5. For me it's almost perfect, the only thing i really dislike are the stereo speakers. They should have been much better!
I personally love the size, it feels good and looks good.
It's light, superb software and performance and indeed insane battery life!
Support and camera are the parts where OnePlus really messes up, for everything else they still make great products for decent prices.
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I totally agree with you, after 2 years with OnePlus (6T and 7T) I switched to the Pixel 5 and I'm really happy with it