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I'm a new nook user and successfully put nookie froyo on over the weekend. I would like to use my 5gb of internal memory for the reader apps (nook, aldiko etc) but they all only seem to look for an sdcard. I can see that media directory is there and I can see the files via ES File Explorer but can't figure out how to make the nook (or other reader apps) see this storage.
On my Samsung captivate the internal storage shows up as an sdcard and my external card is mnt under that so I was expecting a similar layout with the nook internal memory.
I'm not sure if this is just the way it is or have I done something wrong?
also when I go into SD card and Phone Storage settings it shows:
Total Space: unavailable
Available Space: unavailable
Mount and Format SD card options are greyed out
Internal Phone Storage Available Space: 513MB
WinoOutWest said:
I'm a new nook user and successfully put nookie froyo on over the weekend. I would like to use my 5gb of internal memory for the reader apps (nook, aldiko etc) but they all only seem to look for an sdcard. I can see that media directory is there and I can see the files via ES File Explorer but can't figure out how to make the nook (or other reader apps) see this storage.
On my Samsung captivate the internal storage shows up as an sdcard and my external card is mnt under that so I was expecting a similar layout with the nook internal memory.
I'm not sure if this is just the way it is or have I done something wrong?
also when I go into SD card and Phone Storage settings it shows:
Total Space: unavailable
Available Space: unavailable
Mount and Format SD card options are greyed out
Internal Phone Storage Available Space: 513MB
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The apps would have to know to look for it at /media, and if they do, they should readily be able to access it on that path.
I just tested this myself, I copied my /sdcard/Books to /media, renamed /sdcard/Books to /sdcard/Books-bak (just to make sure I wasn't accidentally still referencing the old location) and in FBReader I changed my Library path to /Media/Books and it works fine.
So you have access to R/W the path, just the apps don't necessarily know to look there. FBReader you can change the path, but not sure about others.
thanks for mentioning FBReader. Aldiko, like many apps seems to insist on SDCard as the root and doesn't find anything. I d/l FBReader and set it to use the internal memory so thanks for that.
Many other apps are the same in wanting an SDCard for storage. It would be nice to have an app or setting that would allow us to map that directory to "SDCard"
WinoOutWest said:
thanks for mentioning FBReader. Aldiko, like many apps seems to insist on SDCard as the root and doesn't find anything. I d/l FBReader and set it to use the internal memory so thanks for that.
Many other apps are the same in wanting an SDCard for storage. It would be nice to have an app or setting that would allow us to map that directory to "SDCard"
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Have not tried it, but creating a symlink would accomplish that.
i had the same problem with the initial flash of honeycomb but then i reflashed with "second edition" and it seems to be working fine now
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Have not tried it, but creating a symlink would accomplish that.
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Except fat doesn't have symlinks Yes, it would be nice to ln -s /media /sdcard/media or something but it won't work.
Is that /media partition only good for storage? I noticed the few apps I installed so far put files on the SD card, and when the SD is removed, the apps don't work anymore. I tried copying everything on the SD to the /media and left the SD out but the apps still didn't run. Do I have to put all the .apk files under /media and install them from there? I'm trying to use SD only for media storage and no app bits if possible.
drazil22 said:
Is that /media partition only good for storage? I noticed the few apps I installed so far put files on the SD card, and when the SD is removed, the apps don't work anymore. I tried copying everything on the SD to the /media and left the SD out but the apps still didn't run. Do I have to put all the .apk files under /media and install them from there? I'm trying to use SD only for media storage and no app bits if possible.
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If an app requires an SD card, it requires an SD card. Period. It's not going to fall over to using /media magically.
You can use apps without the SD card of course, but again, if they need SD they are not going to work. Apps are installed in /data/app and typically app data in /data/data but a lot of apps, especially games, require SD storage.
How would I use adb to push a file to /media? I'm trying to store some movies in here and it gives me an error that media is read-only.
jv
I've got a question. Since I got a 16 GB mSD card, is there a way to resize /media (if there is a reason to) so that I have more room for applications?
johnnyv5 said:
How would I use adb to push a file to /media? I'm trying to store some movies in here and it gives me an error that media is read-only.
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While I have not tried it, I would imagine that you could use Root Explorer to change the folder from R/O to R/W
You could alternately do an adb command "adb shell" and then use Unix commands to do that.
How does one view the content of the SD Card from the Vivid device itself?
I can connect the Vivid to my PC via USB cable and view the SD Card as a separate drive on the PC, but cannot see how to view the SD Card content from within the device.
Suggestions? TIA.
Get a file explorer app from the marketplace. Try Astro.
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How does one view the content of the SD Card from the Vivid device itself?
I can connect the Vivid to my PC via USB cable and view the SD Card as a separate drive on the PC, but cannot see how to view the SD Card content from within the device.
Suggestions? TIA.
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First, you need to get a file manager application from the market. There are many of them, mostly free or low cost. I'm not crazy about Astro, the one I downloaded, but it works. Look at some others.
On my Vivid in the root directory is a folder called sdcard. That is the 8.83 GB user portion internal memory portion of the "16 GB" internal memory. Also, I have a folder called sdcard2. It's the 32 GB micro SD card I installed.
Interestingly, there is also a folder in the root directory called mnt. Under it is a folder called sdcard. It is the same as the sdcard under the root directory. Under mnt/sdcard is ext_sd. That is the 32 GB external SD card. I don't know if this duplicate listing is the work of the file manager app, or if it is the Android OS, but I am able to find files and copy files from one place to another.
With me making no changes for applications and data during application installations (I'm not sure I can), all of the apps I have installed have gone into the other portion of internal memory. The data seems to be going into the user portion of internal memory. When I installed the external SD card, I copied music files to it from my PC. The music player found them with no problem. Also, once the card was installed, photos I took were placed on the external SD card instead of internal memory.
brucegil said:
First, you need to get a file manager application from the market. There are many of them, mostly free or low cost. I'm not crazy about Astro, the one I downloaded, but it works. Look at some others.
On my Vivid in the root directory is a folder called sdcard.
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How does one access the root directory? Is that what the file manager app does?
(New to Android, and still in the learning phase.)
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How does one access the root directory? Is that what the file manager app does?
(New to Android, and still in the learning phase.)
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Don't feel alone. I just came from several years on the old Windows Mobile. In the file manager, I click on the Up icon until it won't go any further. You will see only a '/' in the address/location bar near the top. You will likely see folders such as acct, app-cache, config, sys, sysytem, etc., as well as mnt, sdcard and sdcard2. Tap on the sdcard2 folder icon, and you will see any folders you have on your external SD card.
In Astro, you can specifiy where the program opens when it starts. It can be the root directry, the exteranl SD card or any other location.
By the way, the other poster likes Astro. It comes with other tools. The "free" version has ads, but it might have a paid version. And it does come with an Exit button, something missing from a lot of Android apps.
brucegil said:
Don't feel alone. I just came from several years on the old Windows Mobile. In the file manager, I click on the Up icon until it won't go any further. You will see only a '/' in the address/location bar near the top. You will likely see folders such as acct, app-cache, config, sys, sysytem, etc., as well as mnt, sdcard and sdcard2. Tap on the sdcard2 folder icon, and you will see any folders you have on your external SD card.
In Astro, you can specifiy where the program opens when it starts. It can be the root directry, the exteranl SD card or any other location.
By the way, the other poster likes Astro. It comes with other tools. The "free" version has ads, but it might have a paid version. And it does come with an Exit button, something missing from a lot of Android apps.
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Thanks much!
brucegil said:
First, you need to get a file manager application from the market. There are many of them, mostly free or low cost. I'm not crazy about Astro, the one I downloaded, but it works. Look at some others.
On my Vivid in the root directory is a folder called sdcard. That is the 8.83 GB user portion internal memory portion of the "16 GB" internal memory. Also, I have a folder called sdcard2. It's the 32 GB micro SD card I installed.
Interestingly, there is also a folder in the root directory called mnt. Under it is a folder called sdcard. It is the same as the sdcard under the root directory. Under mnt/sdcard is ext_sd. That is the 32 GB external SD card. I don't know if this duplicate listing is the work of the file manager app, or if it is the Android OS, but I am able to find files and copy files from one place to another.
With me making no changes for applications and data during application installations (I'm not sure I can), all of the apps I have installed have gone into the other portion of internal memory. The data seems to be going into the user portion of internal memory. When I installed the external SD card, I copied music files to it from my PC. The music player found them with no problem. Also, once the card was installed, photos I took were placed on the external SD card instead of internal memory.
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/sdcard is a symlink to /mnt/sdcard/ its the same thing, just a 'shortcut' to the actual mounted partition located in /mnt
/sdcard2 is a symlink to /mnt/ext_sd/ same thing, just a 'shortcut'
the actual ROOT system is inaccessible unless you have root access and an app that can see it, like root explorer, or es file manager. there are probably a few others that can get into the actual root of the filesystem.
Pirateghost said:
/sdcard is a symlink to /mnt/sdcard/ its the same thing, just a 'shortcut' to the actual mounted partition located in /mnt
/sdcard2 is a symlink to /mnt/ext_sd/ same thing, just a 'shortcut'
the actual ROOT system is inaccessible unless you have root access and an app that can see it, like root explorer, or es file manager. there are probably a few others that can get into the actual root of the filesystem.
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Thanks for the explanation. What I meant by "root" was the top level of the file system, e.g. C:\ on a Windows PC. "Root" apparently has a different meaning in the Android OS.
ES File Manager was the other highly rated file manager, along with Astro when I searched for "file manager" in the Market.
brucegil said:
Thanks for the explanation. What I meant by "root" was the top level of the file system, e.g. C:\ on a Windows PC. "Root" apparently has a different meaning in the Android OS.
ES File Manager was the other highly rated file manager, along with Astro when I searched for "file manager" in the Market.
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root in linux and subsequently, android, has an entirely different meaning.
in a sense, you have it right. / in linux/android is the root of the filesystem, equivalent to C:\ in windows pcs.
without having root (superuser access) on linux/android, you cant see the / or most of the directories below it. the general user only has direct access to storage, like /sdcard, /sdcard2 (also referred to as ext_sd, or sd_ext)
brucegil said:
First, you need to get a file manager application from the market. There are many of them, mostly free or low cost. I'm not crazy about Astro, the one I downloaded, but it works. Look at some others.
On my Vivid in the root directory is a folder called sdcard. That is the 8.83 GB user portion internal memory portion of the "16 GB" internal memory. Also, I have a folder called sdcard2. It's the 32 GB micro SD card I installed.
Interestingly, there is also a folder in the root directory called mnt. Under it is a folder called sdcard. It is the same as the sdcard under the root directory. Under mnt/sdcard is ext_sd. That is the 32 GB external SD card. I don't know if this duplicate listing is the work of the file manager app, or if it is the Android OS, but I am able to find files and copy files from one place to another.
With me making no changes for applications and data during application installations (I'm not sure I can), all of the apps I have installed have gone into the other portion of internal memory. The data seems to be going into the user portion of internal memory. When I installed the external SD card, I copied music files to it from my PC. The music player found them with no problem. Also, once the card was installed, photos I took were placed on the external SD card instead of internal memory.
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I was wondering about this, can we Not access the rest of this 16GB ...what happened to the other 8GB...?
I too just made the Jump from WM 6.5 (<-- nightmare), so I have no clue how a lot of things work too. ;P hehe I'm a noob again ;P
StrangeShadow said:
I was wondering about this, can we Not access the rest of this 16GB ...what happened to the other 8GB...?
I too just made the Jump from WM 6.5 (<-- nightmare), so I have no clue how a lot of things work too. ;P hehe I'm a noob again ;P
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the phone is marketed as having 16gb of onboard storage, but in reality, 1gb is dedicated to the ROM, aka /system
4gb is dedicated to /data which handles app installs and the like.
the remaining is storage for you to use.
be lucky you have all that. my other HTC phones all just had a mere 2gb or 4gb TOTAL storage (all allocated to /system and /data), which required you to have an SDCard just to be able to take pics or put music/movies/ringtones on it....
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the phone is marketed as having 16gb of onboard storage, but in reality, 1gb is dedicated to the ROM, aka /system
4gb is dedicated to /data which handles app installs and the like.
the remaining is storage for you to use.
be lucky you have all that. my other HTC phones all just had a mere 2gb or 4gb TOTAL storage (all allocated to /system and /data), which required you to have an SDCard just to be able to take pics or put music/movies/ringtones on it....
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Wow! Yeah I figured at least a Gig for the Rom. The rest is pretty nuts though, any way we can see a detailed breakdown on our phone? Didn't expect it to be so much.
Can we install apps on the sd card, like some WM apps?
I was quickly running out of room on my phone as everything was being installed to my internal SD card (4Gb) and not to my 32Gb external card.
I found an app called directory bind which I thought would move my large games data files and put them on my external card telling my phone where to find them while freeing up my internal SD card. So I tried the following
Source /mnt/extSdCard/Gameloft/
Target /sdcard/Gameloft/
I end up with a copy of my data files on my external sd card but the files are still on my internal sd card. So instead of saving me space this takes extra space on my ext SD card as well. I thought I'll just delete the data on my internal card as its on my external card. What happens? It deletes the files from my external card as well. Really strange. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Personally speaking I would've called the internal SD card the source and the external card the target. Perhaps thats where I'm going wrong but everything on using this app shows the ext card and int card used like this.
I've just found another app called link2sd would this be a better solution than directory bind?
Not sure about what you're asking. But this might help your problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2078603
Link2SD won't work either.
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Not sure about what you're asking. But this might help your problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2078603
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That sounds like the perfect solution. I still don't understand why directory bind doesn't move the folders for me and just copies them. Also at a loss why deleting from internal sdcard deletes the external sdcard contents too. It looks like there is a binding between the two folders but whats the point if it doesn't clear space on your internal sdcard and just duplicates the folders.
You aren't doing it correctly... I'm using Directory Bind without any problems, although it was a little frustrating at the beginning.
Go to its settings, then change the default data path to
Code:
mnt/extSdCard/
and the default target path to
Code:
/sdcard/
Also, have the Alternate dbase mgmt and Persistent service boxes checked.
Now, just follow this tutorial and it'll work http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889550. Of course, you can specify exact folders both in the data and target paths, I just like to specify each time.
kicker63 said:
Link2SD won't work either.
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Hi, yes, Link2SD works on the S3 mini but we need the init.d support for the secured boot.img. I found the batchscript created by doomlord and I have modified this script for our S3 mini. Then I create a ext4 partition (Guide by einstein.frat) on my microSD and the apps with dalvik cache files (.DEX) and library files (libs) is outsource to the ext4 partition. Until now it works without bugs. I`ll later report this in the devlopment section.
Regards
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Hi, yes, Link2SD works on the S3 mini but we need the init.d support for the secured boot.img. I found the batchscript created by doomlord and I have modified this script for our S3 mini. Then I create a ext4 partition (Guide by einstein.frat) on my microSD and the apps with dalvik cache files (.DEX) and library files (libs) is outsource to the ext4 partition. Until now it works without bugs. I`ll later report this in the devlopment section.
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Any input about it? Is it still doing well?
And since you dealt with it, do some of you guys have any advice on this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2227471
Thanks,
Directorybind works fine, or foldermount.
What you see in internal is actually files on external. Try to unmount or delete some file on external and you will see its not a copy.
Sent through time and space from my s3mini.
Data just pretends to be on internal storage. Use an app call DiskUsage to see exactly how much space it takes up in a nice visual graph
Hello I have Samsung GT-I9000 and I'm familiar with the phone, more or less. Recently I've bought a used Samsung GT-I9000 for my wife and I noticed that in file manager the shortcut for the external sd card is missing, same is with Root Explorer. I can access the external sd card by accessing the folder /storage and everything works but there is no shortcut. This has not been a problem until recently I wanted to upload a file to my skydrive folder which by default browses the sd_card_0 folder and I could not reach the external sd card. Please if someone could help me how to create a shortcut/link to the external sd card in to the build in sd card. I have searched for similar problems and solutions but I could not find any. Thanks
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Hello I have Samsung GT-I9000 and I'm familiar with the phone, more or less. Recently I've bought a used Samsung GT-I9000 for my wife and I noticed that in file manager the shortcut for the external sd card is missing, same is with Root Explorer. I can access the external sd card by accessing the folder /storage and everything works but there is no shortcut. This has not been a problem until recently I wanted to upload a file to my skydrive folder which by default browses the sd_card_0 folder and I could not reach the external sd card. Please if someone could help me how to create a shortcut/link to the external sd card in to the build in sd card. I have searched for similar problems and solutions but I could not find any. Thanks
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Hi tihis a know bugs (if you have ICS or later )
Anyway the solution may be the same, use directory bind (serch this app in xda) and create your shotcut where you want (root are needed )
try mnt folder. or make sure sd card are properly inserted. Any rooted file explorer can access to sd.
To make it clearer, this is the problem on the phone - the pointed folder is missing!
http imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/screenshot2013052121135.png/[/IMG]
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While in bookmarks I can access the card and all of its contents
http imageshack.us/photo/my-images/849/screenshot2013052121261.png/
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Thats why I'm asking how to restore the pointed folder on the first picture because on the phone is like this:
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I'm not allowed to post external links so please go to the quoted url.
EDIT: I forgot to mention I'm using the awsome Xylon 2.4.1 Jelly Bean 4.2.2 ROM for I9000
try to browse ur url but da img not available there
after http there is a blank field which needs to be replaced with ://
i ........ nevermind.
are u rooted?
to be sure, juz rooted da explorer by clicking setting in menu button, and redirect everything to /storage/sdcard1
ur sd and internal are quite there so whats da problem? all 4.2.2 version already in ext4 so da folder /external_sd doesnt been used anymore, its for GB, u can see it by going to properties of da /external_sd and see there will be no space available.
JB uses /storage at / to indicate da sdcard, its proper that way and easy to organise
at /storage, there will be 2 directories, /sdcard0 (indicates your internal and /sdcard1 (indicates your external sd)
as i see here, there is nothing wrong with ur pic and fone
edited: i use root explorer so its taking a while for me to download CMfilemanager (well, gonna change ROM after this so installing it not a bother to me)
da first 2 thumbnail is my root explorer, the other are da same file explorer as yours
see thumbnail:
To solve this problem I used SiMi Folder. see this link
I also found Smart Shortcuts, which I like even better. see this link
Hi There,
I updated yesterday to KitKat (Commercial And Journalists version).
Since then I noticed that on the external storage Android creates folders such as Android/data, Android/obb and fills them up with several root folders for apps though they are not used. Within those root folders KitKat creates then a files, cache or files/cache folder which remains empty. In the obb section the root folder remains empty. Same is with DCIM which I don't need as I use internal storage for my photos.
Our XZ has enough internal storage which I use for all such things and I don't need to fill up my sd cards, which usually have media on it. If I use that card later in another device such as in my car I have that silly folders appearing...
Is there any chance to get rid of those empty directories and prevent Android doing so as it was no issue up to 4.3?
Thx for help!
Best Regards,
Andreas
andiling said:
Hi There,
I updated yesterday to KitKat (Commercial And Journalists version).
Since then I noticed that on the external storage Android creates folders such as Android/data, Android/obb and fills them up with several root folders for apps though they are not used. Within those root folders KitKat creates then a files, cache or files/cache folder which remains empty. In the obb section the root folder remains empty. Same is with DCIM which I don't need as I use internal storage for my photos.
Our XZ has enough internal storage which I use for all such things and I don't need to fill up my sd cards, which usually have media on it. If I use that card later in another device such as in my car I have that silly folders appearing...
Is there any chance to get rid of those empty directories and prevent Android doing so as it was no issue up to 4.3?
Thx for help!
Best Regards,
Andreas
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Try a game with obb file. And put the obb in external sd then install apk. If the game worked so you got free internal to external app made from nothing LOL
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androidfreak70 said:
Try a game with obb file. And put the obb in external sd then install apk. If the game worked so you got free internal to external app made from nothing LOL
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Interesting idea... but it does not work. The app fc and only starts once I moved the obb part from external to internal.
If anyone has more ideas. (-:
andiling said:
Interesting idea... but it does not work. The app fc and only starts once I moved the obb part from external to internal.
If anyone has more ideas. (-:
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App FC means the obb not found(sometimes the app say need to download bla bla...) So you should put them is internal memory.
If you installed any apps or games so Try delete all files and folders in android/data in your external card. After that if you see any of your apps is back as you installed them first time (means data wiped) so the apps data path is now in your external card
If you tried to put the OBB in the both external and internal and the app didnt worked so that means there is something wrong in your rom...
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App FC means the obb not found(sometimes the app say need to download bla bla...) So you should put them is internal memory.
If you installed any apps or games so Try delete all files and folders in android/data in your external card. After that if you see any of your apps is back as you installed them first time (means data wiped) so the apps data path is now in your external card
If you tried to put the OBB in the both external and internal and the app didnt worked so that means there is something wrong in your rom...
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oh, it works if the obb is in internal memory... but not external. This was in reply to your idea.
If I delete all folders (and there are only folders but no files in it) the system recreates them by time...
andiling said:
oh, it works if the obb is in internal memory... but not external. This was in reply to your idea.
If I delete all folders (and there are only folders but no files in it) the system recreates them by time...
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Thats really strange problem but flash your rom or try another ftf that all what i can say now:cyclops:
Any chance that you may have found a fix for this in the past year? My i9100 does the exact same thing and I've scoured the web to try and fix it. Cyanogenmod 12 / 5.1.1 and I have completely the same problem, every app creates an empty folder under Android/data or Android/obb on my external sd. For no discernible reason I can see.