Rooting FireOS 5.3.1 and blocking OTA updates will obviously not get any security updates that are rolled out by either Android or FireOS developers. What about Nexus ROM; same situation or would it get new security patches added to new versions of the Nexus ROM?
mc510 said:
Rooting FireOS 5.3.1 and blocking OTA updates will obviously not get any security updates that are rolled out by either Android or FireOS developers. What about Nexus ROM; same situation or would it get new security patches added to new versions of the Nexus ROM?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ggow has backported up to the November 2016 patches. However, a lot of the new patches are for MM and N, so there hasn't been enough to justify a port. He's pretty busy, maintaining several ROMs, so I can see why he chose not to do some later patches.
Sent from my Amazon Fire using XDA Labs
PorygonZRocks said:
ggow has backported up to the November 2016 patches. However, a lot of the new patches are for MM and N, so there hasn't been enough to justify a port. He's pretty busy, maintaining several ROMs, so I can see why he chose not to do some later patches.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, that's what I was hoping to hear, that at least the high priority security patches get rolled into updated versions of Nexus ROM. Sounds like Nexus therefore provides better security than staying with FireOS 5.3.1 and blocking OTA updates.
Related
I'm running SLiMM ROM 2.1 with April 2016 Security Patch level. A couple of questions:
1. Is there any way to update just the Security Patch level without flashing a new ROM?
2. Is there any other ROM with updated Security Patch level I can flash on a device with locked bootloader?
3. Is there any other ROM with updated Security Patch level I can flash on a device with unlocked bootloader?
4. What is the latest Security Patch level available for Z3c(locked or unlocked BL)?
4. What is the latest Security Patch level available for Z3c(locked or unlocked BL)?
On stock .291 the Security Patch is : 1 May 2016
Kernel vulnerabilities can easily be patched and flashed on a phone with unlocked bootloader. Other vulnerabilities living in the system won't be as easy to patch.
forever insecure.
z3 compact is definitely my last android phone, i was tired of this ****.
well that kinda sucks. I really like this phone and wanted to continue to use it as a daily driver, but if i cant get it up to date security wise im not sure i will. Hopefully the Paranoid Android project will release working ROM with up to date security patches(since Z3c seems to be pretty much abandoned by CM). The lack of security updates is a really big concern on Android. It's ridiculous that a consumer who is willing to flash his phone himself cant get updated security.
BrotherZero said:
I'm running SLiMM ROM 2.1 with April 2016 Security Patch level. A couple of questions:
1. Is there any way to update just the Security Patch level without flashing a new ROM?
2. Is there any other ROM with updated Security Patch level I can flash on a device with locked bootloader?
3. Is there any other ROM with updated Security Patch level I can flash on a device with unlocked bootloader?
4. What is the latest Security Patch level available for Z3c(locked or unlocked BL)?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. No
2. No
3. 99% no
4. 1 May 2016
BrotherZero said:
well that kinda sucks. I really like this phone and wanted to continue to use it as a daily driver, but if i cant get it up to date security wise im not sure i will. Hopefully the Paranoid Android project will release working ROM with up to date security patches(since Z3c seems to be pretty much abandoned by CM). The lack of security updates is a really big concern on Android. It's ridiculous that a consumer who is willing to flash his phone himself cant get updated security.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Barua said:
forever insecure.
z3 compact is definitely my last android phone, i was tired of this ****.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Personally, I don't care about security updates. That artificial drama created around all these flaws and insecurities that are present in Android are just ridiculous... It's probably one a quadrillion chance our devices will be attacked or anything will happen to them. Just use them like it should be used and nothing wrong will happen. I may over exaggerate the problem but telling you won't use your phone because of the security updates is like telling you can't leave your house because there are so many sick people around and you also may get sick. Just don't be so pedantic, really...
romcio47 said:
1. No
2. No
3. 99% no
4. 1 May 2016
Personally, I don't care about security updates. That artificial drama created around all these flaws and insecurities that are present in Android are just ridiculous... It's probably one a quadrillion chance our devices will be attacked or anything will happen to them. Just use them like it should be used and nothing wrong will happen. I may over exaggerate the problem but telling you won't use your phone because of the security updates is like telling you can't leave your house because there are so many sick people around and you also may get sick. Just don't be so pedantic, really...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am using android phones since 2009. I dont care about security updates too but no new updates mean no new features, thats why i am sick about these phones. for example, z3 compact didnt get the nougat update, so i will not be able to try multi window feature, which is very useful. Even an iphone 5 gets latest ios update and features, 2012 model phone, 4 years getting updates.
sec patch level on concept 3636 is 1st july 2016
Sent from my D5803 using XDA-Developers mobile app
Barua said:
I am using android phones since 2009. I dont care about security updates too but no new updates mean no new features, thats why i am sick about these phones. for example, z3 compact didnt get the nougat update, so i will not be able to try multi window feature, which is very useful. Even an iphone 5 gets latest ios update and features, 2012 model phone, 4 years getting updates.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's because the iPhone hardware and software stays mostly the same each year. They don't make changes that are big enough to make the previous generation obsolete. So if you want to always run software with features that are 2 years behind the trends on hardware that is a year behind the trends, then go to the iPhone. But don't say you want the latest and greatest and then mention iPhone as the solution.
one year later and SONY forget about us..
The next phone will be from another company..
Be1n said:
one year later and SONY forget about us..
The next phone will be from another company..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What are you talking about? The Z3C is 3 years old
I meant since the last message ...
BrotherZero said:
I'm running SLiMM ROM 2.1 with April 2016 Security Patch level. A couple of questions:
1. Is there any way to update just the Security Patch level without flashing a new ROM?
2. Is there any other ROM with updated Security Patch level I can flash on a device with locked bootloader?
3. Is there any other ROM with updated Security Patch level I can flash on a device with unlocked bootloader?
4. What is the latest Security Patch level available for Z3c(locked or unlocked BL)?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
3. CarbonROM 5.1 with security level Nov 2017
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/development/cr-5-1-carbonrom-t3529766
Regarding number 3, there are some custom ROMs available, such as:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/orig-development/oreo-unofficial-omnirom-t3696536
The ROM mentioned in the link above contains security patches from Dec 2017. Look at the feature list (what's working and what not) before flashing.
Hope that helps
Just wondering if someone more familiar with the way OP rolls these things out, if they only update their security patches with Android version changes, or if they roll out monthly ota's to keep them up to date.
Looking at the Jan. patch update, it seems there are several vulnerability issues addressed, so it would seem to be in OP's best interest to get an update out ASAP.
I just "upgraded" from a Nexus 5x to the Moto x4.
Kinda seems like a down grade software wise as I'm stuck on 7.1.1 with Sept security updates. My Nexus 5x is running 8.0 with latest October patches that include the krack patch.
Any idea when we can expect the krack patch for this new device?
I have the sm-t713 variant. Security update of August 2017.
Does Samsung send out regular updates for these Tabs?
I'm coming from a Nexus 7 with an Oreo ROM and was spoiled with monthly updates. TIA.
Subscribed
I came to this site looking to security updates, too. My Galaxy Tab S2 (wi-fi) , Android version 7.0, shows Android security patch level: April 1, 2017. I have tried "Download updates manually" and it says it is up to date. Is there a way to force a newer security update? Do I have to root and install a custom ROM to get this device secure?
Well, the LineageOS builds are up to date in Security Update matters... ^^
MisterB8835 said:
I came to this site looking to security updates, too. My Galaxy Tab S2 (wi-fi) , Android version 7.0, shows Android security patch level: April 1, 2017. I have tried "Download updates manually" and it says it is up to date. Is there a way to force a newer security update? Do I have to root and install a custom ROM to get this device secure?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have the 2016 S2 8.0 but my patch level is August 2017. Since the security patches are now at least 6 months behind, I have a feeling we won't be seeing any more. Is yours the 2015 version? Maybe that's why it's even further behind than mine. I will probably flash LineageOS 15.1 at some point although I don't need its features.
BTW, you don't have to root to flash a custom ROM. Just flash TWRP with Odin and then flash a new ROM and Gapps with TWRP. Rooting is optional on LineageOS.
lmacmil said:
I have the 2016 S2 8.0 but my patch level is August 2017. Since the security patches are now at least 6 months behind, I have a feeling we won't be seeing any more. Is yours the 2015 version? Maybe that's why it's even further behind than mine. I will probably flash LineageOS 15.1 at some point although I don't need its features.
BTW, you don't have to root to flash a custom ROM. Just flash TWRP with Odin and then flash a new ROM and Gapps with TWRP. Rooting is optional on LineageOS.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
One more question if I may? After installing LineageOS or other custom ROMS, will they get the regular monthly security patches?
MisterB8835 said:
One more question if I may? After installing LineageOS or other custom ROMS, will they get the regular monthly security patches?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LineageOS generally has weekly updates so every 4 weeks or so, the security patch gets updated (as long as the developer maintains the ROM.) Some of the less popular ROMs may not see updates as regularly.
Right now we are @ 05.01.18 as patch level, next one will follow soon
EDIT: Like... now: @ 05.02.18
So, I registered for Android Pie beta program and upgraded via OTA. But later I rolled back to Oreo 8.1 July via OTA. And now I can't get August OTA update. Everytime I check, it's showing no update available.
Does anyone know how to fix this issue? If this problem persists, then I am afraid I won't be able to get any further OTA update including stable Andoid Pie.
Wait for 24h.
I am in the same boat as OP. Contacted Nokia support and they told me to wait for the OTA. They also suggested a method to somehow force the OTA by taking your sim card out, clear the cache of the Carrier Service app, shutting down and power on and search for the update once more (without the sim card), though it did not work for me so far.
EDIT: after waiting for a few hours the OTA appeared automatically, so you better just wait OP.
In the same boat.
I just bought this phone yesterday and so far so good. I've received a bunch of OTA updates but only as far as July. Is there an August one as well? Any way to trigger the update?
I'm using TA1055 and in New Zealand.
Try to clear data on google services framework and carrier services and restart your phone
If not after restart, you should get your update around 24hours after
Sent from my Nokia 7 plus using Tapatalk
What is going on with the August and September updates? My last security update was in July and since than nothing...what kind of Android One device is this?!
August patch breaks custom tone folders.
When you get it, you'll have to load notification tones from storage//Music/
JumpMouse said:
What is going on with the August and September updates? My last security update was in July and since than nothing...what kind of Android One device is this?!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think so too,my last security update was in July,I do not what happening,Nokia-Mokia...Android One,bla-bla...
New update, September security patch and:
-More stable system.
-user interface improvements.
I have to try the phone and see.
EDIT:
It said security patch update but i am still on august security patch so i don't know what it is. 77MB 8.1 (V2.22M)
Never tried the Pie beta but as for updates? Got updated to 8.1 shortly after I bought the phone. Since then nothing. Phone still says it is up to date with the July security patch. Very disappointed with this so called Android One device. This was one of the main reasons I bought this phone.
NahuelMS said:
New update, September security patch and:
-More stable system.
-user interface improvements.
I have to try the phone and see.
EDIT:
It said security patch update but i am still on august security patch so i don't know what it is. 77MB 8.1 (V2.22M)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How did you see that its september security update when you can clear see in the changelog its still august security patch?
Sent from my Nokia 7 plus using Tapatalk
spaha-bih said:
How did you see that its september security update when you can clear see in the changelog its still august security patch?
Sent from my Nokia 7 plus using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because i know the months of the year. If i am in august security patch and i get and update that says -security patch update... What comes after august???
NahuelMS said:
Because i know the months of the year. If i am in august security patch and i get and update that says -security patch update... What comes after august???
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
and you know read? if yes, try again read info on your screenshot, is here (~translated)"Google Security Update 2018-8" and 8 is august right?
anyway "Security Update" not necessarily mean "Google Security Update"... simply you have some as "early semptember OTA update with SecurityUpdate keep from august", is better if Nokia send OTA more that one/month if have fixes for Security, Stability, etc... i think in this month come second OTA with Google Security Update 2018-9..
NahuelMS said:
New update, September security patch and:
-More stable system.
-user interface improvements.
I have to try the phone and see.
EDIT:
It said security patch update but i am still on august security patch so i don't know what it is. 77MB 8.1 (V2.22M)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi there! Exactly same happened to me yesterday. Strange things happening.
NahuelMS said:
New update, September security patch and:
-More stable system.
-user interface improvements.
I have to try the phone and see.
EDIT:
It said security patch update but i am still on august security patch so i don't know what it is. 77MB 8.1 (V2.22M)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is a minor update - a stability update as they call it.
Phone feels much smother after the update.
It is also considered by some as the preparation for the Android Pie stable release - https://www.nokiacamp.com/nokia-7-plus-receives-a-stability-update-probably-a-preparation-for-pie/
Finger's crossed.