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My phone dies so quickly it's not even funny. ~20% in 1 hr even after just barely using it.
- Using Android (CoreDroid Nand)
- Bought it second hand, but I've had it for about 4 months.
Should I get a new OEM battery? or is this just normal?
Moon2 said:
My phone dies so quickly it's not even funny. ~20% in 1 hr even after just barely using it.
- Using Android (CoreDroid Nand)
- Bought it second hand, but I've had it for about 4 months.
Should I get a new OEM battery? or is this just normal?
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That's not normal amigo.
Get CurrentWidget from the market and see how man mAh it's using, even when the screen's off. Can help diagnose the issue more clearly then.
apallohadas said:
That's not normal amigo.
Get CurrentWidget from the market and see how man mAh it's using, even when the screen's off. Can help diagnose the issue more clearly then.
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Have done, and it's often hovering between 4-6 ma during screen off, otherwise, when just playing with animations, it stays below 300-350 ma.
yes you need a new battery. on android my battery lasts from 24-36 hours depending on how much I use the phone.
wrap it up so no moisture can get in then put it in deep freeze over night or 24h, take it out and then let it thaw at room temp and then charge to full.
In some cases this will work and has worked for me on a laptop battery and a phone I had a few years back. They used to die after a hour or so and then after freezing they was back to normal for a good while.
If it works or you get a new battery always make sure never to put it on charge unless its nearly dead, ie 1-5% or max of 10%. If you keep on putting batteries on charge when they are not dead this f*cks them up as some battery types have a sort of memory.
TheATHEiST said:
wrap it up so no moisture can get in then put it in deep freeze over night or 24h, take it out and then let it thaw at room temp and then charge to full.
In some cases this will work and has worked for me on a laptop battery and a phone I had a few years back. They used to die after a hour or so and then after freezing they was back to normal for a good while.
If it works or you get a new battery always make sure never to put it on charge unless its nearly dead, ie 1-5% or max of 10%. If you keep on putting batteries on charge when they are not dead this f*cks them up as some battery types have a sort of memory.
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Yeh , i learnt that in my physics class too Make sure that there is no condensation when you put the battery back in the phone.. it could spoil the internals!
Moon2 said:
Have done, and it's often hovering between 4-6 ma during screen off, otherwise, when just playing with animations, it stays below 300-350 ma.
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Those actually sound normal. What you should do is check how much juice the battery is retaining. Let it charge fully - charge until current widget is reporting single digit charge. Use spare parts to check the battery information. If it's significantly less than 4200mv at full charge then try to wipe the batterystats.bin from /data/system, reboot and charge again. If it's still very low voltage then you need a new battery.
ionbasa said:
yes you need a new battery. on android my battery lasts from 24-36 hours depending on how much I use the phone.
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sorry but what battery are you using ive not long had a Andida 1600mah my phone last for 24 hours max on winmo but when i have android running it last for about 5/6 hours straight with berely touching my phone.
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wrap it up so no moisture can get in then put it in deep freeze over night or 24h, take it out and then let it thaw at room temp and then charge to full.
In some cases this will work and has worked for me on a laptop battery and a phone I had a few years back. They used to die after a hour or so and then after freezing they was back to normal for a good while.
If it works or you get a new battery always make sure never to put it on charge unless its nearly dead, ie 1-5% or max of 10%. If you keep on putting batteries on charge when they are not dead this f*cks them up as some battery types have a sort of memory.
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NiCad had memory problems like this, but NiMh and LiIon are not supposed to have this issue.
ionbasa said:
yes you need a new battery. on android my battery lasts from 24-36 hours depending on how much I use the phone.
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TY, am surprised at that usage time cos since I've got it, it's never lasted more than half a day.
TheATHEiST said:
wrap it up so no moisture can get in then put it in deep freeze over night or 24h, take it out and then let it thaw at room temp and then charge to full.
In some cases this will work and has worked for me on a laptop battery and a phone I had a few years back. They used to die after a hour or so and then after freezing they was back to normal for a good while.
If it works or you get a new battery always make sure never to put it on charge unless its nearly dead, ie 1-5% or max of 10%. If you keep on putting batteries on charge when they are not dead this f*cks them up as some battery types have a sort of memory.
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Ty, will try this
buzz killington said:
Those actually sound normal. What you should do is check how much juice the battery is retaining. Let it charge fully - charge until current widget is reporting single digit charge. Use spare parts to check the battery information. If it's significantly less than 4200mv at full charge then try to wipe the batterystats.bin from /data/system, reboot and charge again. If it's still very low voltage then you need a new battery.
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I always wipe batterystats when flashing a new rom, and it's pretty much at 4.2 - 4.22 at full charge
My sd android builds will last 24-36 hours if I don't hardly use it and keep it on standby... that's with getting 4-6ma drain. If I use it, though, it will only last 4-6 hour of straight use, depending on what you're doing. That's with 150-350ma drain during use. So with normal use I can usually make it through a 12-18hr day before charging. I usually carry a spare battery with me just in case though.
Normally, Li-ion batteries life-span is around 300 charges before they start degrading and not holding a charge as well... so if the battery has been used a year, it's probably time for a new battery.
I think this is a great topic. My battery uses about ~350 mA on just browsing internet, and dies within several hours (about 3). At 100% charge it says 4202 mV in spare parts, but dropped to 99% and 4138 mV within next minute. In another nibute it dropped to 98% and 4108 mV. It means battery not holding charge well? Stats were wiped before flashing
AntonJart said:
I think this is a great topic. My battery uses about ~350 mA on just browsing internet, and dies within several hours (about 3). At 100% charge it says 4202 mV in spare parts, but dropped to 99% and 4138 mV within next minute. In another nibute it dropped to 98% and 4108 mV. It means battery not holding charge well? Stats were wiped before flashing
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Three hours of browsing is not bad - but three hours of continuous screen turned on is a sure battery killer. Have you set your screen to a dim setting, or is it bright?
My battery dies very quickly too, about 4 hours on Android, with heavy usage, and about 2 hours on WP7
I have the official extended battery, though, and also the Cheap Chinese one, so i have backup
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Three hours of browsing is not bad - but three hours of continuous screen turned on a sure battery killer. Have you set your screen to a dim setting, or is it bright?
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Depends. I often keep it on auto. The place I work has very bright lights. I read a lot about HD2 Before I got it. Powerful phone with a tiny battery. On the stand by it actually isnt bad. Eats about less than 1% per hour. With little use, texts and calls, it can last quite a long time. I asume my battery is fine.
What is your mV reading at 100% and less than that?
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Depends. I often keep it on auto. The place I work has very bright lights. I read a lot about HD2 Before I got it. Powerful phone with a tiny battery. On the stand by it actually isnt bad. Eats about less than 1% per hour. With little use, texts and calls, it can last quite a long time. I asume my battery is fine.
What is your mV reading at 100% and less than that?
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Dunno. I don't generally check that kind of data. My phone is at 69% right now, mAh is 8694.
NRG ROM includes tBattery. This particular battery showed 12296 MaH at full power, but this is only the first discharge cycle for the battery.
TheATHEiST said:
If it works or you get a new battery always make sure never to put it on charge unless its nearly dead, ie 1-5% or max of 10%. If you keep on putting batteries on charge when they are not dead this f*cks them up as some battery types have a sort of memory.
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Not true man. On NiMH rechargable batteries (those are really old - I've never actually seen them in phones although I'm sure they were used sometimes... I still see some AA batteries of that kind laying around though) have a memory effect and get screwed if you charge them without depleting the battery life first.
However, we have Li-Io batteries - which, although there's been a lot of controversy, it is basically agreed upon that either it doesn't matter when it's charged or it is actually better NOT to fully discharge (except for around once a month in order to calibrate the battery).
But the freezing the battery thing is pretty cool! I have to try that on a friend's laptop battery that got screwed up!
that is way beyond normal. change your build.
Curious! said:
that is way beyond normal. change your build.
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Have done (flash one every couple of days), and still the same problem, also tried what TheAthiest said, but didn't make a dent.
Would Task29 make a difference for this person? Just throwing that out there
Htc one X full charge take around 3hours and it is painful.
Any ONE user can let us know how much time to do a full charge from 1-5% battery towards 100%？
I read somewhere in other thread is around 100 minutes. Better to confirm from different users.
Thanks!
No one can answer it?
Is it still 3 hours for a full charge?
mmx6688 said:
No one can answer it?
Is it still 3 hours for a full charge?
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its about the same but I haven't timed it. If you use the phone while charging then it will take a lot, lot longer.
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its about the same but I haven't timed it. If you use the phone while charging then it will take a lot, lot longer.
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Thanks to let me know. Since I read some where it is only 100 minutes which make me wonder how it can be so fast.
3-4hours
my need up to 3-4 hours for a full charge
mmx6688 said:
No one can answer it?
Is it still 3 hours for a full charge?
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I've had my One for a few days and have noticed that it charges very slowly. 3-4 hours at least, longer if it's being used.
I charge it overnight while it's off so it hasn't been much of a problem for me.
GonzoDuke said:
I've had my One for a few days and have noticed that it charges very slowly. 3-4 hours at least, longer if it's being used.
I charge it overnight while it's off so it hasn't been much of a problem for me.
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I've noticed some very slow charging speeds, I put it on charge at midnight and at 6am it was at 84%!!. I was using an older HTC charger and not the one that came with the phone so it could be that but I doubt there's any different in output between them.
I've recently installed a battery app that tracks my usage and predicts when the battery will die. I took it off charge at 5:30pm tonight and it things it will flatten out at 6am tomorrow!.. that's only 12 hours on a full charge!.. I hope it's wrong but I'm already 10% down.. maybe it's no better than the HTC One X but I thought it was supposed to be better with a 2300mah battery
on mine from 5% to 96%is about hour half then hour half for the last 4%
mmx6688 said:
Htc one X full charge take around 3hours and it is painful.
Any ONE user can let us know how much time to do a full charge from 1-5% battery towards 100%？
I read somewhere in other thread is around 100 minutes. Better to confirm from different users.
Thanks!
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Anandtech tests report a battery charging time of 3:40 hours... so it is still painful.
I'd kill for 3hr charge time
darkgoon3r96 said:
Anandtech tests report a battery charging time of 3:40 hours... so it is still painful.
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I just got my HTC One a couple of days ago and noticed it was taking forever to charge. So today I timed it. I put it on charge 3 hours ago and it's gone up 30%. It's taking around 6 minutes for 1% of charge. This is using the wall charger, it's slower if I plug it into USB. I'm barely using it while it's plugged in.
My Battery Widget says voltage is 4262mV and temp is 34.6C
It's discharging on normal use at around 10% an hour with power saver on, which I guess I'm fine with, but not if it takes that long to charge up again.
Anyone have any ideas what might be causing it or what I can do about it? (It's my first Android phone and I don't know what the factors are with this).
Thanks.
HTC One on AT&T running Nova Launcher
Dont forget to turn off wifi, blue-tooth and gps, these will kill your battery.
apps like "juice defender" can automatically turn these off if you forget them.
Change from 4g/3g to 2g/gsm it saves battery life
Dont have your screen brightness set too high
use an app like "watchdog" to find high cpu using apps and system processes
also use "wakelock detector" to see if any apps are waking your phone up and wasting battery power when it should be asleep when you are not using it.
You can also turn on the built-in "power saver" from the drop-down list.
their are lots of threads on how to save battery power
John.
mmx6688 said:
No one can answer it?
Is it still 3 hours for a full charge?
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i dont bother how long i always put it on charge when am going to bed .. and morning i see green light
Mine around 5 hours plus from 5%. If I use it gaming or watching YouTube while charging, it even took longer to charge full.
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Is my charging routine bad? Here is my daily recharging
I let it charge over night. By the time I get home its normally in the 60% or so. So its left on all night until about 7am.
Then about half way through my day I charge it again while I'm at on my office. By then the phone is around 70%. So I let it charge to 100% then move on with my day.
So about 2 times a day I charge my phone. Is this healthy for the battery or does it not matter? I'm trying to get the most out of my battery. I seem to burn about 3-4% per hour with it just sitting on desk. Thanks for any advice!
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Is my charging routine bad? Here is my daily recharging
I let it charge over night. By the time I get home its normally in the 60% or so. So its left on all night until about 7am.
Then about half way through my day I charge it again while I'm at on my office. By then the phone is around 70%. So I let it charge to 100% then move on with my day.
So about 2 times a day I charge my phone. Is this healthy for the battery or does it not matter? I'm trying to get the most out of my battery. I seem to burn about 3-4% per hour with it just sitting on desk. Thanks for any advice!
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Nothing wrong with that
You are charging twice a day though so you will half as many days until your battery dies. Still a couple of years until it reaches 80% capacity though
MacHackz said:
Nothing wrong with that
You are charging twice a day though so you will half as many days until your battery dies. Still a couple of years until it reaches 80% capacity though
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I do not understand. Am I better off charging one time a day?
cgardnervt said:
I do not understand. Am I better off charging one time a day?
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Well yeah, but don't worry about it. You'll get another phone by the time you notice a battery drop on this phone.
Ideally you should be charging the phone when the battery gets down to around 40% and charge it to almost full, 97%-99%
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I've always felt that the less you charge s phone, the better in the end. And once its done charging, unplug it. So don't leave it charging over night. I have a timer set up so my phone charges only for a few hours a night then shuts off. When I wake up, my phone is usually in the 90%+ range
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MacHackz said:
You are charging twice a day though so you will half as many days until your battery dies. Still a couple of years until it reaches 80% capacity though
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That's simply not true.
Lithium-Ion batteries are designed to be used - not to be used as permanent storage (thats why batteries in always-coorded laptops die faster)
(storing li-ion batteries should be done at 50% charge, never 100% nor 0%... )
Li-ion batteries should never get below 30% and likewise never hit 100% - The reason why, is because you are stressing the battery the most in the extreme ends... an almost empty cell is stressed when it has to deliver .. and an almost full cell has to charge at higher voltage to reach 100%.
So the best thing you could ever do is to charge from 30% to 95% if possible.
Regarding the amount of charges... with Li-ion you shouldn't think about the AMOUNT of charges, but the SUM OF HOURS that your charge..
so lets say you charge 500 times a year and you in total charge for 500x4 hours = 2000 hours of charging..
the battery usually last for 5.000-10.000 hours of charging ..
The reason why it is so, is because charging li-ion burns the Kathode (or Anode, can never remember) -- and when its all burned off, the battery wont charge anymore ...
Discharging too fast, also burns the Kathode (Anode) !!
Everyone is all over the place in this thread. The two things I will tell the OP to do is not leave the phone plugged in over night, and stay away from 100 and 0% and you will be fine.
But even if the OP keeps treating his battery the way he says, it will be okay. Not ideal, but still okay.
I personally try to keep the phone between 30-80%.
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BenPope said:
That's simply not true.
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Nice input there, just letting you know you're on my ignore list for being rude on every post I've seen you make
MacHackz said:
Nice input there, just letting you know you're on my ignore list for being rude on every post I've seen you make
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I think I'll still be able to sleep at night, but thanks for letting me know.
Well I did find this. What do you guys think?
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
cgardnervt said:
Well I did find this. What do you guys think?
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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you found the right source... its were i get my facts from...
Does the HTC One battery stop charging after it hits 100%? There for no longer having the issue of over charging?
So I'm burning 1.8% per hour according to BBS. Does anyone here know how to decipher the info and tell me what's the culprit?
1.8% per hour? That's not even bad. Round it up to 2%. That's 50 hours. What's wrong with that?
Jayanthy said:
It may be likely that your Moto X’s battery is fine, but having trouble correctly identifying how much battery life is left.
Simply run the battery down to about five to eight percent and let it die. You can speed this up by streaming a YouTube video. Then, when the Moto X has died, let it charge for a few hours before turning it back on.
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http://gizmodo.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-smartphone-battery-the-right-w-513217256
Never go to zero
Obviously, using your battery is going to make it degrade. But it's going to slowly die even if you just leave that iPad in the closet for a bit. There's a trick to minimizing that inevitable aging though: leave it a little bit of juice.
If you're going to be shelving any lithium-ion battery for a long time, try to leave it with at least 40 percent battery power to tide it over. Lithium-ion batteries don't hemmorage power at 30 percent a month like nickel-metal-hydride batteries do; they'll lose maybe five to ten percent of their charge each month.
And when lithium-ion batteries get too low—like, literally zero percent—they get seriously unstable, and dangerous to charge. To prevent explosion-type disasters if you do try to charge one, lithium-ion batteries have built-in self-destruct circuits that will disable (read: destroy) the battery for good, if it reaches rock bottom. And sure, that'll save you from a face full of battery-acid, but it'll also leave you short one battery.
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Always have heard it is bad to drain the battery in a phone. I know other people swear by it, but its not worth the risk of it not charging again, or worse blowing up.
Charging sooner doesn't hurt since there is no "charge memory" like nickle based batteries. so just plug it in when you can, and if you your away from an outlet for too long, maybe it time to consider an external battery backup.
OP, here's another thread that has been discusing the same issue, its a good read.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2418077
I burn around 6% after the last update, with no other changes to the phone. And that's with Battery Saver on too. Used to be around 1.5 to 3%. Everyone said "just wait, this always happens after an update, it will eventually settle out". Total BS. My daily battery life has been cut in half for months.
Well I did a better battery stats 6 hours test ( let it sit no touching etc ) and Im only at 1% an hour. Im pretty happy with that.
I've tweaked the crap out of my phone....and get 24+ hours with 5 1/2 to 6 1/2 hour screen times. Extremely happy......and best I've got on standby is 1ish per hour.
Again....tweaked the crap out....for battery life. LOL. So 1 percent even may take sacrifices some may not wanna make. I'd say a stock sorta phone would get 2 even and you'd be doing alright.
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wow you guys are getting great battery life! According to GSam Battery Monitor, I'm at 9.7%/hour. Currently 6 hours since unplugged and I'm at 35%! With only 2 hours of screen on time.
I think I messed it up when I first got the phone. I immediately upgraded to the 2 OTA's and forgot to do a factory reset. I think I might do one now and see if it fixes the battery life.
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rda990 said:
wow you guys are getting great battery life! According to GSam Battery Monitor, I'm at 9.7%/hour. Currently 6 hours since unplugged and I'm at 35%! With only 2 hours of screen on time.
I think I messed it up when I first got the phone. I immediately upgraded to the 2 OTA's and forgot to do a factory reset. I think I might do one now and see if it fixes the battery life.
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1 percent per hour is with no use. 9.7 per hour with you using it a lot and depending what you are doing could be perfectly normal.
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Phone arrives in 3 hrs..
Should i charge up the phone streight away..or use it on the residual charge thats in the battery till it dies...yhen fully charge it up...
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I've never been able to receive a new device and let it charge all the way up before using it. Today will be no different for me, I'm playing with my new Note 9 as soon as I take it out of the box. IMO, battery conditioning is not necessary. I've never worried about it, and I've never had problems with battery life.
Hello for battery calibration is recommanded to charge it at 5% to 100%
Just enjoy it. Mine came with 60 pc and charged at 15. Never done any ritual dance or calibration and never had a problem.
Got mine with 55% and used until it died. Like the others have said, I've never worried about when and how long I've charged a battery and never had issues.
There are tons of info on this online. General rule is you do not want to charge 100% nor run it down to 0%. This is bad for the battery. I just try to keep my phone away from 0 and 100. Usually at 40-70. Accubattery app is pretty helpful in this regard.
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There are tons of info on this online. General rule is you do not want to charge 100% nor run it down to 0%. This is bad for the battery. I just try to keep my phone away from 0 and 100. Usually at 40-70. Accubattery app is pretty helpful in this regard.
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That makes zero sense.
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That makes zero sense.
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I agree. Except for the fact that science shows it's right. People are actually paid to do this research, unlike us posting on a message board with our opinions that make zero sense. Do with your phone as you like, obviously, but don't disregard the science out of hand. Most people don't care because they keep their phone for a year and dump it, if you want to preserve battery life and keep a phone for longer than a year it makes good sense to follow the science.
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I agree. Except for the fact that science shows it's right. People are actually paid to do this research, unlike us posting on a message board with our opinions that make zero sense. Do with your phone as you like, obviously, but don't disregard the science out of hand. Most people don't care because they keep their phone for a year and dump it, if you want to preserve battery life and keep a phone for longer than a year it makes good sense to follow the science.
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Strange...every phone I've ever owned has had a battery that lasts longer than a year.
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The first time I get a new device, I like to drain the battery completely before charging it again. It's become a habit, and my devices' batteries have never given me issues. Not about to change now.
thepubguy said:
Phone arrives in 3 hrs..
Should i charge up the phone streight away..or use it on the residual charge thats in the battery till it dies...yhen fully charge it up...
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It really doesn't matter for todays batteries.
You should all watch this video for the truth about modern cell phone batteries.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF2O4l1JprI
I did the 40-80% on my note 8 regularly. The next owner will be much pleased ?
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thepubguy said:
Phone arrives in 3 hrs..
Should i charge up the phone streight away..or use it on the residual charge thats in the battery till it dies...then fully charge it up...
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I would say this:
After you are done setting up the phone, erased cache in recovery and ready to play with it, do this first to avoid calibration issues...
1. Use the phone and let the battery get drained to zero and shut down automatically.
2. See if it turns on (without charging) by pressing the power on key. Probably it won't but if it does , use and let it drain till it shuts down.
3. Now charge it fully without switching the phone on.
4. Turn it on , plug the charger and charge it again for the remaining charge to fill.
5. Use the phone and don't charge in between at all. Let the battery get drained to zero and shut down.
6. Repeat steps 3, 4 and 5.
7. Plug the charger, switch it on and charge till 100%. It's calibrated now, I believe.
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After this, DO NOT repeat this 100 to Zero and Zero to 100% charging 'coz it'll shorten the battery health and if you plan to use the phone for say above one year, 2 yrs etc. Now on, Do not let it go below say.. 20 % and above, say 70,80 %. Keep charging in the middle whenever you feel like. It'll keep the battery healthy and will last longer.
Some people are so damn stubborn. The researchers... nevermind.
I didn't want to let my phone die because my friend's note 8 bricked because of it. I trickle charged it and managed to get it to start again after an hour. But then he left it on and it bricked again. So I didn't want to risk it. I had a portable charger so I let it juice up while I was playing with it lol
Just use the damn phone. :laugh:
The other advice is to keep your phone cool when new as you're updating and transferring data etc batteries don't like heat.
Let it die, let it stay without electricity for 3-4 hours and charge it. Let it stay at %100 for 1 hour.
the legend says u should chatge it one u take it out of the box
don`t believe that.. i got my s7 edge and i didn`t charge it first time, i played with it until itvget 12% charge then i charged it to 100%
i didn`t get any problem with battery at all