P10 vs Mate 9 - Huawei P10 Questions & Answers

Which one is a better option?

- If you are a heavy camera user (esp. low-light without flash): P10 plus (plus model only, due to better camera assembly)
- If you need the best battery run time: Mate 9 (4000 mAh vs 3200mAh9
- If you want the heavy-multitasking 6GB RAM model or more internal storage space, then: Mate 9 6GB/128GB China model (or 6GB/128GB p10 Plus model)

vasra said:
- If you need the best battery run time: Mate 9 (4000 mAh vs 3200mAh9
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Huawei P10 Plus has 3750mAh.

pRo_lama said:
Huawei P10 Plus has 3750mAh.
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Yes. I just wish P10plus would be available soon

I have the P10 and Mate 9 and have to say the battery on the P10 is performing as well as the Mate 9. Now this isn't a scientific test, and I've got two SIM cards in the Mate 9 and just one in the P10 - but it could be down to a number of things (like the smaller screen).
The P10 doesn't have the extra microphones, nor do you have the audio playing from the earpiece, but otherwise they're pretty much the same in day to day use.
I wasn't a fan of the fingerprint sensor on the front, but it has grown on me. I even use it with the single tap for back, hold for home and swipe for recent apps - although you can turn that off if you want the old-school on-screen icons.
I managed to get a pretty decent case from Amazon that means I no longer have to worry about accidental screen presses simply to hold the phone without dropping it!

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I have the P10 and Mate 9 and have to say the battery on the P10 is performing as well as the Mate 9. Now this isn't a scientific test, and I've got two SIM cards in the Mate 9 and just one in the P10 - but it could be down to a number of things (like the smaller screen).
The P10 doesn't have the extra microphones, nor do you have the audio playing from the earpiece, but otherwise they're pretty much the same in day to day use.
I wasn't a fan of the fingerprint sensor on the front, but it has grown on me. I even use it with the single tap for back, hold for home and swipe for recent apps - although you can turn that off if you want the old-school on-screen icons.
I managed to get a pretty decent case from Amazon that means I no longer have to worry about accidental screen presses simply to hold the phone without dropping it!
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Wow, how did you get hold of a P10 already. Also my main question is how loud is the p10 in headphones, huawei phones are generally low volume in headphones and this is what put me off getting the p9 plus

I'll try the headphones later. I got the phone at their launch event at MWC.
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RCJ89 said:
Wow, how did you get hold of a P10 already. Also my main question is how loud is the p10 in headphones, huawei phones are generally low volume in headphones and this is what put me off getting the p9 plus
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The P10, Not the P10 Plus; has been released in some European markets already.

http://bit.ly/2n2jXJT

I like Huawei P10 Blue Edition, it's really cool.

Related

Thinking of moving from note 8 to p20 pro

I love using my phone for photography and as my daily driver I use the note 8 which has a dual camera on and quality is amazing even in low light however I have been looking at the p20 pro the only thing which puts me off is the lack of a memory card
Question has anyone made a similar move ?
How do you find the lack of memory card slot ?
Any issues with the phone??
How quick are the phone updates
The 40mp camera interested me but I don't want to regret the move
Thanks
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I did exactly this and have no regrets at all. Phone actually feels nicer in the handand 128gb is actually enough storage for me. Only had about 50gb of data between internal memory and my sd card on the More anyway.
Camera is great too though not a night and day difference if I'm honest. Is the only one I've used that can match Samsung for focus speed.
Performance feels smoother in general use. Samsung experience is still a little sluggish even after all these years.
Battery life is much better. Wasn't impressed with Note 8 longevity at all. Screen isn't as vibrant but it's still very nice.
I like the front fingerprint sensor better because I can unlock the phone without picking it up.
Can't speak for updates yet though. Only had the phone a week. Time will tell though the Mate 9 wasn't too bad on that front.
Hope this helps, feel free to ask me any other questions.
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I had move from Note 8 to s9+ and now to p20 pro...
You have to find out what you prefer most.
For my daily use i prefer p20 pro for excellent photos (I never take videos and if I will then fhd video is very good but not as Note 8 or s9+), front fingerprint with gestures (no use of nav bar), ir blaster, huge battery (30% up to Note 8 & 15-20% to S9+), excellent build quality and screen as Samsung,great signal - wifi...
If you used to work with spen then forget it and stay with Note 8 until Note 9 comes out but if you don't use it then think if you want S9+ or P20 pro... This 2 phones are so, so, so perfect....
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coming from s9+ to p20 pro havent found any problem yet.
about camera quality its already been proven alot of times p20 pro blast all mobile camera as of today https://www.dxomark.com/category/mobile-reviews/
if your using spen too much dont change its the only feature note 8 has over other mobiles.
camera quality is no better than note 8/s9 plus, front camera and video recording are mediocre to say the least, stick to your Note 8, Note 9 is few months away
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camera quality is no better than note 8/s9 plus, front camera and video recording are mediocre to say the least, stick to your Note 8, Note 9 is few months away
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Do you own both?
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Had an s9 for a couple of weeks, moved to p20 pro and now back to the s9 plus.
P20 pro is greatly over hyped.
The Bluetooth performance for me was a deal breaker as I couldn't run any headphones without stutter.
The touchscreen deadzone made things difficult when I had to use citrix or anything that required precise movements.
Camera is extremely inconsistent. It Can take good photos but you either need to use pro mode or get very lucky in auto.
I'll miss the battery and faster charging but that's about it
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had the p20 pro for a month, sent it back, went back to note 8, p20 is a hyped cheap feeling toy compared to note 8
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I had both, sold my note 8 yesterday. The infinity display is old news and causes more issues than it solves. No phone these days feels like a cheap toy unless you pay £50 for it so please don't spread nonsense.
As for "being" cheap and toys, that's definitely the Samsungs. They can't compete with the P20 Pro except with a memory card option.
P20 screen is better considering it's 1080p, better uniformity, no colour shift or red / pink issues. Sounds better than the Note. Takes better pictures by a mile. Lasts 8 hours SOT every single day for me. Note lasted 4-5 hours SOT.
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Had an s9 for a couple of weeks, moved to p20 pro and now back to the s9 plus.
P20 pro is greatly over hyped.
The Bluetooth performance for me was a deal breaker as I couldn't run any headphones without stutter.
The touchscreen deadzone made things difficult when I had to use citrix or anything that required precise movements.
Camera is extremely inconsistent. It Can take good photos but you either need to use pro mode or get very lucky in auto.
I'll miss the battery and faster charging but that's about it
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Can't say I agree here. I use the Bose headphones, Sony, and phillips bluetooth headphones, Zero stutter. The camera is more consistent than my Pixel 2 XL.
S9+ shoddy battery life and shoddy photos meant it only lasted me a few days.
TO THE OP ) - Try it, and ensure you have 14 days to send it back, but I have extensively tested it along side the Note 8, S8+, Pixel 2 XL and the S9 and I can tell you if you know how to use the phone without AI on, ie when to use HDR mode, or just shoot auto, you'll not regret it. )
It is a little stuttery though. The phone itself not the camera.
Whatever happens, the Note 8 is as good as the S9+ if not better in most depts.
Went from P20 Pro to S9, missing lighting-fast face recognition, camera zoom & huge battery, everything else better on S9.
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I had both, sold my note 8 yesterday. The infinity display is old news and causes more issues than it solves. No phone these days feels like a cheap toy unless you pay £50 for it so please don't spread nonsense.
As for "being" cheap and toys, that's definitely the Samsungs. They can't compete with the P20 Pro except with a memory card option.
P20 screen is better considering it's 1080p, better uniformity, no colour shift or red / pink issues. Sounds better than the Note. Takes better pictures by a mile. Lasts 8 hours SOT every single day for me. Note lasted 4-5 hours SOT.
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Can't say I agree here. I use the Bose headphones, Sony, and phillips bluetooth headphones, Zero stutter. The camera is more consistent than my Pixel 2 XL.
S9+ shoddy battery life and shoddy photos meant it only lasted me a few days.
TO THE OP ) - Try it, and ensure you have 14 days to send it back, but I have extensively tested it along side the Note 8, S8+, Pixel 2 XL and the S9 and I can tell you if you know how to use the phone without AI on, ie when to use HDR mode, or just shoot auto, you'll not regret it. )
It is a little stuttery though. The phone itself not the camera.
Whatever happens, the Note 8 is as good as the S9+ if not better in most depts.
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Will have to agree to disagree
Pixel 2 does a lot better in daylight shots as does the s9
Only place the p20 camera does better is extreme low light however something you said I do agree with.
You can take better pictures with the p20 but as I said, it's a poor point and shoot.
S9 is MUCH better for that but if you can use manual mode, p20 has a higher ceiling.
My use case doesn't work with that, by the time km done fudging the settings the moment is gone.
My p20 screen has major uniformity issues but that seems to be a lottery these days.
I 100% agree try both, 14 days should be plenty to decide.
For me. The advantages of the s9 way outweigh the advantage of battery and manual camera.
Bluetooth is poor, maybe I live in a high interference area but both s9 and pixel have 0 problems.
If you play games that scrolling deadzone will make life very difficult
Of course the battery difference will be more pronounced going from note 8 to p20 than s9 to p20
I had a note and ditched it for the awful battery
What's this dead zone that people are talking about? Haven't noticed any such thing, how do I test for it?
By the way Bluetooth turned to crap on my Note 8 after the Oreo update. Would not sync automatically to my car and I'd have to fiddle around hitting the connect button a few times until it would eventually work.
Maybe I'll try Samsung again when the Note 9 comes out. Not sure. Many good things about their phones but the curved display got old after a while.
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It's this
I made a decision and purchased the mate ten pro I have to say I love it only downside is no memory card expansion but the camera is awesome I thought the note 8 was brilliant I love the AI
I played with the p20 pro however I wasn't working out the cost I purchased the p10 pro for £250 less
I have taken loads of pics and the AI gets it right almost all of the time
If anyone wants a superb branded Huawei I heartily recommend the p10 pro
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Will trade you my p20 and s9 for the pups
I can't make mine do it. Could it be a software issue that's been fixed on my version? Or are they shipping inferior hardware to some parts of the world?
Is that on the p20 pro or p10 pro
I just point at something and it works it out have took loads of shots and it's not faulted once
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I switched from the S8 Plus .. I was thought of waiting for the Note 9 to arrive, but was going to jump on the S9 Plus instead... That's until I started watching the review videos for the P20 Pro.. So I went with my gut and jumped on the P20 Pro .. After a week of using it, I'm impressed.. Battery life is remarkable..
1) 14 hour work day with moderate usage and I have 65% battery life left ..
2) Facial recognition fastest I've seen yet..
3) Where I would normally have bad reception through AT&T in certain areas and inside buildings, appear to not be there anymore.
4) I have not had it act sluggish at all.. No matter what I'm throwing at it and with many apps open in the background..
5) Camera .. Just Wow !!..
The only negative things are: No SD card slot and No head phone jack .. But the other stuff sure makes up for it ..
You can mitigate the lack of headphone jack with a USB C Charging and 3.5mm adaptor from Amazon for about £8. Works perfectly. Personally I use AirPods 99% of the time but I like the option of using wired headphones at night, as I tend to stick my phone in airplane mode.
Battery life is definitely better than the Note 8 but I found the Note 8 absolutely abysmal in terms of its battery life, so that's no great surprise.
The AI is very iffy. As a point and shoot I'd rather use an iPhone 8, Samsung or Pixel. The P20 Pro just gets it wrong too often - for example it will turn on Portrait Mode for shots if it spots a face but there are very few scenarios where I actually want to use their janky fake bokeh. It'll also turn on a 'scanner' mode if it sees a label - so the other day I took a picture of a beer and it just produced a crop of its label! You can turn off AI but the pictures then just look a lot blander and less dynamic than the Pixel. Pro mode is fun and produces excellent results but I rarely have time for that.
Software updates are my biggest concern. I'm genuinely worried that Huawei are very poor with software updates - particularly with carrier devices like my EE model. I'm already still on the March security update and hearing that other people have a new version with new improvements. It's almost like Project Treble was just a dream that I woke up from.
i have both s9 plus and p20 pro and i both use them everyday and compare them side by side together. taking pictures p20 pro is a no brainer its better than s9 plus its even proven in dx0 mark website so you really dont have to do experiments on how to properly take a picture and get the best result out of it. battery everybody knows p20 pro is better i before my s9plus i had note 8 im a heavy user my note 8 coming out of charge from full just in less than an hour my batts already around 97 almost same as my s9 plus.. about the 3.5mm jack issue i always use my bluetooth headsets so not a problem. sd card even 64gb is enough for me considering i have googlephotos and i upload all my photos automatically and delete all of if i need space locally

note 9 or p20 pro.. which is the best option?

Hi guys
Actually I use a galaxy note 8 but in September. I need to change it because expire the rent signature.
So, I'm looking for a new smartphone.. And the 2 smartphone that I found are note. 9 or p20. Pro..
It's true that are 2 different product.. And the p20 has not the spen.. But I don't use the s pen top much..for work I started to use a iPad with the apple pencil and I think is better for my use.. The display is bigger than a smartphone display...
So, if I forget the spen functionality.. What is your suggestion? P20 is cheaper (not too much) and his camera is better.
Otherwise, I'm started to use galaxy series or note series 8 years ago, the first one was galaxy s1.... Actually the UI for me is easy to use...I'm scared I loose some function with the p20..
Can you give me your consideration?
Thanks
Sam
this is like asking in the huawei forum whether the note 9 is better...
Yes I know.. But if someone need to compare this 2 device, where must ask the question?
If you're used to the Samsung UI, the Huawei EMUI will definitely be quite different. Especially in terms of how it handles battery management and memory optimization, as well as maybe the lock screen notifications. My friend does have a P20 Pro while I use the Note 9, having switched from the S8.
I will tell you right away, if you want better battery life get the P20 Pro.
If you want the better camera, it's honestly a toss-up. In true real world experience, the P20 Pro's camera is not quite the home run critics make it out to be, there were some scenes where even my year old Galaxy S8 could beat the P20 Pro.
If you want the better display there's no question about it get the Galaxy Note 9 it's not only bigger it doesn't have a notch and well it's a Samsung OLED display enough said.
The real question of the Galaxy Note 9 is, how much are you willing to pay for the S Pen, and Samsung's slightly less offensive software. My advice is try to shop around for a P20 pro deal, as it's been out for a while now. If you can get it for significantly less than the Note, buy that. If the prices are within $100 of each other, get the Note. If you can wait, wait for the Mate 20 to release and see how that looks; even if you don't like it, both the Note and the P20 are bound to be cheaper by then.
Oddly enough, the battery test videos show the Note 9 quite superior to the P20. Not sure what is better because I don't buy off brand phones so I have no experience with them.
Lol, P20 Pro's camera is not better. It just has more lenses. If you DO like taking black and white pictures, go for Huawei. If you like functionality, SAME CAMERA PERFORMANCE, S-pen and overall performance, go for samsung. I used to have Iphone 8+, now i own Note 9. I dont feel any different in terms of performance.
I just sold my p20 pro that I've had for two months, my note 9 is coming tomorrow so I can't compare the two (I did have the note 8 and s9 for a while though) but I can tell you some things about the p20.
The camera has been advertised extremely well, and it is great in low light BUT in real world point and shoot situations it's trash in my opinion. I haven't taken one photo on it that I like, all the photos I have taken on auto are over processed and over sharpened. Any Samsung phone I've ever used has always had a fantastic point and shoot camera.
The EMUI no matter what anyone tells you is clunky and just not enjoyable to use. I feel like the new and improved Samsung experience UI is really smooth and easy to use in comparison. I'm aware you can use launchers and stuff but I prefer to keep the stock launcher.
Although the p20 is advertised as having a 4000mah battery I haven't had a great experience with it. This differs from person to person and usage but I really can't get a full day out of it.
I know it might seem like I'm bashing the phone I have enjoyed some aspects of it, but my note 9 is coming tomorrow and I cannot wait to get my hands on it.
Thanks a lot guys for your really apprecied feedback!
I read your opinion and I thin, again, that my new smartphone will. Be again a note!
Sure, I think the difference respect the note 8 will be not so much, but as I explained, in September expire the relationship with my carrier and I must change the smartphone, and buy a note 8 is not convenient.
Actually in italy the street price of the p20 pro is 700 euroin European version, online.. The Italian versione is slightly expensive, approx 800 euros..
The note 9 will sold 1029 euro, so the difference is 250/350euro,but I can subscribe, is a newest in italy, a subscription with Samsung. I can pay monthly the device for 24 months, with 99 euro of first payment, and obtain a note 9.afyerthis period, I can pay approx 300 euros and the device will be mine, otherwise, I can replace it with a new one..
At the end, I will pay more than 1029 euros but for 24 yeast I have a protection against damage included, and is not a bad things..
P20 pro has not this option, in italy is sold or as a usual with carrier or I must pay it 100%.
About ghe performance...i really stress my smartphone.. I use it for job, I take note during some. Meeting, I use it via chrome cast to watch movies by Netflix or similar, and the integrated dex station function can be a good features (but also the p20 has. This option)
I use also it with camera, because I have 2 children and is always a good. Thing have in my hand a good camere to capture the nice moment of the day.. And this is a good point.. I was sure that the people like the p20 pro camera. Much more than the other. Camera phone, but your real feedback explain a different situation.. I'm not a professional camera man, I need a best camera with automatic setting for this moment, and if you are agree that also the note 9 can be better, this is another good point for note 9.
Finally... The UI powered by Samsung is without secrets for me after a lot of years.. Also, last but not least, when I configure the new device automatically I found saved wifi Hotspot, password and other small information that help me during my Business, and I reduce the stress to replace a new device
Th AK a lot again guys for your explanation.
Ot: somebody with the note 9 can give me a feedback about dex application, in particular for Netflix and autocad application? I think can be 2 real interesting application respect surfing on internet or other solutions
Sam
If you ask me, wait a little bit for a mate 20 (pro) and than make finall decision. Last year i had note 8 and mate 10 pro after it and huawei was better for me.
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If you ask me, wait a little bit for a mate 20 (pro) and than make finall decision. Last year i had note 8 and mate 10 pro after it and huawei was better for me.
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In what ways if you don't mind me asking? I got my note 9 this morning and I am so happy I don't have to use the p20 pro anymore!
@Popmonty battery capacity (sot +40%) and flat screen at start (this rounded screen are totaly pointless for me, expecially on a note series where 10% on screen is useless with pen)! Than, mate 10 pro had stereo sound (note 8 not), much faster (and better positioned) fingerprint, 128gb etc.
On a note 8 side was wireless charging and 3.5mm.
Now in note 9 a lot of things are improved; stereo sound (but still mono for notification except whatsupp app), 128gb base memory, bigger screen and 4000mAh...but who knows what new mate will bring near new kirin 980 and wireless charging. I would wait 2 more months if there is possibility...if nothing, note 9 will be much cheaper in 2 months
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P20 pro still uses bluetooth 4.2 while others started with 5.0 like last year? It doesn't matter if I need it or not. For a flagship price it needs to provide flagship specs. Huawei has been known for this kind of **** behind the scene. Who knows what else has been cheaped out on.
Regarding the mate 20 pro... It was also for me a good option.. But I need to finalize the order max in the first week of October because I have to finalize the contract signed with phone operator.. I must return the note 8 otherwise I have to pay another year.. But the cost is similar to buy another one new phone so I will return it.
For this reason I think is not an option for me wait the new mate 20 pro.
Regarding the performance of p20... There are 2 important thing that are not installed in this device.. The 3.5 jack and And the wireless charging... For my personal use the first one is good because in the night in some case I use wired earphone too watch some movies in my bed when my wife sleep.. Are comfortable and I don't want rememberto charge a Bluetooth earphone.. I have the gear icon x of Samsung and I use this only for fitness... And a lot of case are discharge.
The wireless charge instead is good because I have in my office the wireless stand and is confortante charge my mobile while I'm in the office..
Sincerely, I don't know why in the p20 pro there is not at least this option... In fact I read will be integrated with the new mate 20
I would definitely recommend for you to wait and see what the Mate 20 Pro will offer. I am expecting a fairly good phone from Huawei. They have made a few videos targeting the Note 9 so I'm guessed they have something up their sleeves. Also it will have a bigger battery than the Note 9 and also a more efficient SOC being the new Kirin 980 developed on a new 7mn architecture
Only (huge) problem from my POV is that Huawei does not allow unlocking of Bootloaders anymore - so cannot Root or install custom ROMs on Huawei devices - I hope this changes soon.
This factor alone tips it towards the Note 9 for me. Now patiently waiting for a decent price drop - hopefully by November/ holiday period.
sam213 said:
Hi guys
Actually I use a galaxy note 8 but in September. I need to change it because expire the rent signature.
So, I'm looking for a new smartphone.. And the 2 smartphone that I found are note. 9 or p20. Pro..
It's true that are 2 different product.. And the p20 has not the spen.. But I don't use the s pen top much..for work I started to use a iPad with the apple pencil and I think is better for my use.. The display is bigger than a smartphone display...
So, if I forget the spen functionality.. What is your suggestion? P20 is cheaper (not too much) and his camera is better.
Otherwise, I'm started to use galaxy series or note series 8 years ago, the first one was galaxy s1.... Actually the UI for me is easy to use...I'm scared I loose some function with the p20..
Can you give me your consideration?
Thanks
Sam
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I suggest, with respect, you don't make any purchase based on reviews or forum posts for anything you purchase from mobiles to socks. We all differ and it comes down to what your needs are rather than what you want or others suggest.
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Ryland Johnson said:
I suggest, with respect, you don't make any purchase based on reviews or forum posts for anything you purchase from mobiles to socks. We all differ and it comes down to what your needs are rather than what you want or others suggest.
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Ciao Ryland
Sure, I don't purchase note 9nkr hauwei depending of. The forum. Review, I already found this 2 device after personal. Consideration, also I have already the galaxy note 8, so I know the device.
Because are 2 really interesting phone, and because I use for job and personal use the camera, I just ask the opinion of the other person of the forum, because for example test the camera is impossible and I can only as ask a feedback from somebody that already tried both.
For this reason after some consideration read here in this thread I take the decision to buy the note 9 and I wrote this comment... Because some users told me a feedback regarding a feature that I can't test myself.. Sure I must believe to this person.. But I think also this is the spirit of the forums, no?
huawei's software is trash (and with that locked bootloader stuff u cant even flash custom roms lol), that alone is enough for me to not buy a huawei phone
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huawei's software is trash (and with that locked bootloader stuff u cant even flash custom roms lol), that alone is enough for me to not buy a huawei phone
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Rooting is a waste of time in this day and age. If you need to root a phone you are a million miles from a typical user.
The P20 pro is not as good as the Note 9 I would agree, but the software is fine, as is the Note software.
If you need to root then get a Nexus 5 or something.
With regards to the rest of this thread, for me the pros and cons are:
Note : Faster, Slightly better screen, Headphone Jack
P20 Pro : Better/ Louder sounding speakers, Much better camera in ALL scenarios barring indoor low light. Less noise, better zoom, better overall quality, much better low light.
I have both phones right now, and honestly if the P20 pro had better video recording and was a little less laggy on graphics intensive stuff, I would use it as my main phone. BUT the note 9 is a more polished phone and is better in almost all ways barring speakers and photos.
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Rooting is a waste of time in this day and age. If you need to root a phone you are a million miles from a typical user.
The P20 pro is not as good as the Note 9 I would agree, but the software is fine, as is the Note software.
If you need to root then get a Nexus 5 or something.
With regards to the rest of this thread, for me the pros and cons are:
Note : Faster, Slightly better screen, Headphone Jack
P20 Pro : Better/ Louder sounding speakers, Much better camera in ALL scenarios barring indoor low light. Less noise, better zoom, better overall quality, much better low light.
I have both phones right now, and honestly if the P20 pro had better video recording and was a little less laggy on graphics intensive stuff, I would use it as my main phone. BUT the note 9 is a more polished phone and is better in almost all ways barring speakers and photos.
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im not talking about rooting at all, im just talking about ROM's in general. Huawei's stock rom is trash, while the samsung one has become very good over the years.

Mate 20 Pro returned for a Oneplus 6t....Sadness

Well my Mate 20 Pro started showing the green tint issue, which was tolerable at first, but because I imported it to the US I didn't want to take the risk of getting another green screen, or the one I had getting worse and then being outside of the return period.
My Oneplus 6T 8gb got here yesterday and is making me realize just how bad EMUI really is. Touchwiz to EMUI wasn't that bad of a shock, but stock android to EMUI is. Just the difference in getting notifications again is relieving. The Oneplus feels just as snappy as the Mate 20 Pro did also, no signs of lag or hesitation. Another benefit for me, because I am using T-Mobile US, is the optimization the Oneplus has for my network. I am getting much greater LTE speeds, WiFi Calling, and VoLTE again. Not deal breakers, but very nice to have them back.
I am going to miss the battery life; 6t doesn't seem bad, but the Mate was insane. Honestly the battery life was so good, the 40w charging ended up being a non-feature for me. I never need to top the phone off quickly as I never saw below 30% battery, even with 8 hours screen on time at one point. The camera on the Oneplus isn't horrible, but I will miss all of the options the Mate came with.
In the end the most important thing about a phone is that is does the core things well. Connectivity, calls, messaging and user experience trump all of the other features to me, and the Oneplus does do all of those things better. The UI is so much cleaner than EMUI, and Huawei could really benefit from offering a version of the phone with pure android.
When the price on the Mate 20 Pro drops and the issues have been worked out, I really do think I will revisit the phone and consider purchasing it again.
I forgot to mention...The fingerprint scanner on the Oneplus 6t is worlds better than the Mate 20 Pro. It hasn't missed a scan yet, is just as fast, and positioned much better. All of this with the factory applied screen protector.
I’m essentially in the same boat as you I just haven’t pulled the trigger on the 6t. However that thunder purple is tempting.. My Mate is gone as I couldn’t handle the green, however I miss the phone so much. Are you happy with the 6t or is it just a stop gap for you? And how is the camera is noticeably worse or would you say it’s marginal. That was a key reason for getting the mate I take a lot of photos for work and having a good camera really makes things easier for me.
I've ordered the mate 20 pro but I think I'm going to cancel. Today was the first time I got to test out a demo, while the build quality, and features of the phone are amazing, I really didn't like emui in that 10 min I spent with it. It reminded of the old TouchWiz.
Phone was very snappy but I can tell that the animations were much shorter than other phones and werent as fluid. A mate 20 pro one edition would have been perfect.
Be aware guys... RAM management on the OnePlus is terrible. I am returning it and getting a Mat 20 Pro.
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Just sold my Note 9 to buy the mate 20 pro (will be here tomorrow), although I do have the 6t with gcam installed and is a killer combo plus I paid 280 for it through Tmo
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I’m essentially in the same boat as you I just haven’t pulled the trigger on the 6t. However that thunder purple is tempting.. My Mate is gone as I couldn’t handle the green, however I miss the phone so much. Are you happy with the 6t or is it just a stop gap for you? And how is the camera is noticeably worse or would you say it’s marginal. That was a key reason for getting the mate I take a lot of photos for work and having a good camera really makes things easier for me.
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Haven't had a chance to take a lot of pictures with it, but I would say it's better than marginal. The ultra-wide and 3x/5x zoom on the mate 20 were killer though. I will definitely miss them. I will be ok giving them up though with everything else you get with Oneplus. I am already rooted with all the root apps I missed installed.
As far as ram management, it looks to be a Pie problem. The 3 phones with Pie, people are complaining about ram management. I just set the apps I don't want killed manually.
I would say the trade-offs from the Mate 20 Pro to the Oneplus side in favor of the Oneplus by just a little. The things you do everyday on your phone are just better on the Oneplus.
I have also replaced my Mate 20 Pro with the 6T due to screen bleeding. Obviously the camera is not as good but the 6T fingerprint scanner is far superior. This will do nicely before the big hitters of early 2019 are released. Hopefully lessons have been learned for the upcoming P30 Pro.
The OnePlus has many advantages over the M20P, with it being on Close to stock Android, better overall user experience, without annoying little things that comes with EMUI 9. The design on both are great and the new "Thunder Purple" on the 6T is stunning.
I just sold my OnePlus 6, will probably now test out the 6T or just wait until next year to see what that brings.
There are obvious issues for some with the M20P, it's most definitely not the best in terms of software and Huawei aren't the best with rolling out updates. (another plus point for OnePlus). However the camera for me is better on the M20P and battery life is just superb. I also appreciate the design and feel of the M20P. Fortunately I have not been affected with the green tint issue & hope it doesn't arise.
I'll hang in there and hope improvements to the UI are made and niggles sorted. As I am very much enjoying the M20P although as previously stated it's not as good as the 6T from a software perspective .
Enjoy your 6T it's a great all round device :good:
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Just sold my Note 9 to buy the mate 20 pro (will be here tomorrow), although I do have the 6t with gcam installed and is a killer combo plus I paid 280 for it through Tmo
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Can u pls confirm where did u order your mate 20pro from. My note 9 is coming today but I will return it even before opening the box.Thanks
6t finger print scanner is slower than mate 20 pro, the sensor is also much larger, they are using the highest speced sensor compared to oneplus mid tier sensor (check teardown)
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6t finger print scanner is slower than mate 20 pro, the sensor is also much larger, they are using the highest speced sensor compared to oneplus mid tier sensor (check teardown)
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You are incorrect. Side by side the Oneplus is faster and 10x more accurate. I have been trying them both all night.
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You are incorrect. Side by side the Oneplus is faster and 10x more accurate. I have been trying them both all night.
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okay well in my opinion its faster, the animation is just quicker on the oneplus. having removed the animations on the m20p its faster. But nether the less, i am also having doubts about the M20 pro but i dont want to go back to oneplus, its too boring but i know purist like pure android
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You are incorrect. Side by side the Oneplus is faster and 10x more accurate. I have been trying them both all night.
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No sorry I am afraid this is nonsense. The Oneplus 6T scanner is a "TINY" but faster, but I get 100% accurate scan every single time on the Mate 20 Pro. If you don't then you have a screen issue on the Mate or you haven't registered your print properly. And yes, I have also used them side by side.
Thing is, the secure face unlock on the Mate 20 pro is 10x faster than the 6t fingerprint and works with google pay and banking apps so blows it away.
Add to the fact the Mate is a LOT faster and smoother than the 6t with cameras and batter life that destroy it, I could never go for a oneplus.
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Thanks for the photo comparison. To me it looks like the Mate 20 pro did a nicer job with the truck. Looking at the letters RAM you can see that they have less glare around them (unless that is a reflection that is actually there)
I thought the default camera did a nicer job with the backyard shot. Leaves look a bit sharper than other cameras but I wonder if it is over saturated. Maybe you can comment on that. Over all I might still go for Mate 20 pro but all are quite good.
I also got rid of the mate 20 pro and purchased the OnePlus 6t 8gb 256.
Yes ultimately the mate 20 pro is better but OnePlus 6t is a nice device.
I hope also to purchased a mate 20 pro in the future as it's such a great device minus the screen obviously lol.
For now I'm happy I guess but could of been happier if I had a fully working Mate 20 pro but after replacements it was time to make a decision
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Can u pls confirm where did u order your mate 20pro from. My note 9 is coming today but I will return it even before opening the box.Thanks
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From ebay nevermsrp
mscion said:
Thanks for the photo comparison. To me it looks like the Mate 20 pro did a nicer job with the truck. Looking at the letters RAM you can see that they have less glare around them (unless that is a reflection that is actually there)
I thought the default camera did a nicer job with the backyard shot. Leaves look a bit sharper than other cameras but I wonder if it is over saturated. Maybe you can comment on that. Over all I might still go for Mate 20 pro but all are quite good.
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I think the Oneplus app is taking better pictures overall so far. Seems to have better range than the Gcam app. There are like 3 versions I have tried so far and none of them have been mind blowingly better so far.
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It's worse on the mate 20 pro... I have a OnePlus 6 as well and the ram management is much more predictable on that.
Although this is just software and may change
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No sorry I am afraid this is nonsense. The Oneplus 6T scanner is a "TINY" but faster, but I get 100% accurate scan every single time on the Mate 20 Pro. If you don't then you have a screen issue on the Mate or you haven't registered your print properly. And yes, I have also used them side by side.
Thing is, the secure face unlock on the Mate 20 pro is 10x faster than the 6t fingerprint and works with google pay and banking apps so blows it away.
Add to the fact the Mate is a LOT faster and smoother than the 6t with cameras and batter life that destroy it, I could never go for a oneplus.
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If you could be really never go for a OnePlus what is your basis for comparison? YouTube reviews?
I had an entire night side by side with both phones and the OnePlus is just as smooth, unlocks very quickly and still hasn't missed once on the finger print scanner (I registered my fingerprint at least a dozen different times on the Mate 20), and best of all it has root and no crap bloatware installed.
Without question the mate 20 camera is better just because of how many options you have with it.
Battery life I can't really comment on yet as I haven't had it long enough, but 85% left with 1.5 sot seems pretty decent so far.

S10 Plus or P30 Pro

After a 30 days im still thinking which phone to get.
I have now Mate 20 Pro and I can give my phone and 200EUR for S10 Plus or P30 Pro.
Yes I know difference between them on paper. But how is in really life? I read here on XDA they are so many people who used P30 Pro and S10 Plus.
So please what are you think of this two phones? What at end is better to choose for you?
P. S. Im heavy usere, and I love camera. I know that they said P30 Pro is better in photos and S10plus in video, but they are post by people who wrote that P30 Pro video is not far behind S10 Plus and etc...
I am grateful to everyone who helps. And please tell your honest answers if you used both phones. Without Huavei or Samsung fans.
P30 Pro much better I have sell my S10 plus
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P30 Pro much better I have sell my S10 plus
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I bought p30 pro 3 days ago. Amazing phone but I don't like video so much and Samsung's oneui seems way better as I see on videos.
U wqs thinking to switch to s10 plus.
Tell us cons and pros for both phone and why u sold s10 plus.
Thank you.
P30 Pro 256gb Aurora Power
Battery
Performance
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Zoom
Night
Video with AI amazing
Is better on P30 Pro
Samsung have 4K 60fps better
Not have video with AI
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I currently have both the S10+ and P30 Pro. For my use, the P30 Pro battery life makes all the difference. Being able to use the phone all day and stilll have 30-40% battery available when I go to bed is is amazing. With the S10+ I would have battery anxiety starting around 8 pm. I'm not that concerned about the P30+ lackluster video performnace and still hope a software update will make it better.
So how much is bad P30 Pro video? (i see some videos comparisons but thats all was when P30 Pro have pre-release software).
What about photos?
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So how much is bad P30 Pro video? (i see some videos comparisons but thats all was when P30 Pro have pre-release software).
What about photos?
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Its not all bad... just doesn't have 4K 60FPS & a true slow motion mode at high resolution... I don't video a lot and 1080p usually meets my needs...
As someone put it, it's about the whole package... Battery, photo camera, design, etc.
Does the phone do some things exceptional and other stuff not so much, yes...
Overall, at least IMO and my use case, best phone on market currently...
Its subjective and if you have never had a Huawei device, going from Samsung or other, it maybe a bit jarring especially EMUI because you have to do a lot of settings changes to get it to do everything at times the way you want it to... I however enjoy the ability to change some much.... Most of the changes relate to the phone keeping the best in class battery performance, so if I want to make a change at the cost of battery life, I like being the one making that decision and not the other way around.
Other minor annoyances have a purpose behind them... but they are only annoyances if it bothers you for your use case and not understanding the reasoning (which most times is actually well thought out)
I haven't enjoyed an Android phone so much that it has me looking for the next thing.... I really could care less about the OnePlus release already knowing it won't top the P30 pro's camera... Same possibly with the Note 10... that means until the new Pixel phone come into more focus or the new iPhone, I won't be changing... for myself to keep a phone for that long is unheard of in this disposal android market...
I had S10+ nice phone but battery was terrible. Very happy with p30 pro
Considering you already have the mate 20 pro, I would wait for the mate 30 pro as the change from mate 20 pro to p30 pro is a minor upgrade.
P30 Pro is very nice Phone and fast look this vs SD855
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Considering you already have the mate 20 pro, I would wait for the mate 30 pro as the change from mate 20 pro to p30 pro is a minor upgrade.
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Not worth the upgrade coming from a Mate 20 pro. I'd definitely recommend waiting for the Mate 30 pro
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After a 30 days im still thinking which phone to get.
I have now Mate 20 Pro and I can give my phone and 200EUR for S10 Plus or P30 Pro.
Yes I know difference between them on paper. But how is in really life? I read here on XDA they are so many people who used P30 Pro and S10 Plus.
So please what are you think of this two phones? What at end is better to choose for you?
P. S. Im heavy usere, and I love camera. I know that they said P30 Pro is better in photos and S10plus in video, but they are post by people who wrote that P30 Pro video is not far behind S10 Plus and etc...
I am grateful to everyone who helps. And please tell your honest answers if you used both phones. Without Huavei or Samsung fans.
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I prefer my S10+ over my P30 Pro.
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I prefer my S10+ over my P30 Pro.
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Why? What is difference in really life using?
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Why? What is difference in really life using?
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Better build quality, better screen, better video recording (4K 60fps/HDR), stereo speakers, Samsung Pay, MicroSD expansion, better UI, better front cameras, headphone jack, etc.
Three things I like more about the p30 pro...
Battery life, low light performance and the zoom capabilities.
Did someone have both phones, so he can take same several photos in day light and x5 and x10 zoom.
So we can compare it.
Thx a lot
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Did someone have both phones, so he can take same several photos in day light and x5 and x10 zoom.
So we can compare it.
Thx a lot
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And while they're at it, can they compare the stereo speakers, the QHD displays, the headphone jacks and the micro SD slots?
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And while they're at it, can they compare the stereo speakers, the QHD displays, the headphone jacks and the micro SD slots?
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All that is not big deal to me. And if you need more memory you can buy it online.
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All that is not big deal to me. And if you need more memory you can buy it online.
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What was your point, out of interest?
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What was your point, out of interest?
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Don't get me wrong, all that is good to have it. And to bad that phone in 2019 don't have all of that.
I know the P30 Pro have good battery, better then S10Plus. Im interested in camera now.
When you watch on YT there's so much paid youtubers. I need to know from people who have bout phones.
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Don't get me wrong, all that is good to have it. An hid to bad that phone in 2019 don't have all of that.
I know the P30 Pro have good battery, better then S10Plus. Im interested in camera now.
When you watch on YT there's so much paid youtubers. I need to know from people who have bout phones.
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I do actually have both - an Aurora Blue single SIM P30 Pro and a Prism White dual SIM S10+.
No point comparing the zoom though, as the S10 only has 2X and anything else is just basic digital cropping. The 5X zoom in the P30 Pro is fairly poor quality in my personal opinion - you can get decent enough shots in bright light but the dynamic range is a lot poorer than the main lens, there's a lot more fringing and it just isn't as sharp. The 10-50X zoom is fun, but ultimately the pictures are unusable but for anything other than the gimmick factor. The wide angle lens is better on the S10 than the P30 Pro, and in my opinion you get a much more reliable 'snapshot' front he S10+ when you don't want to think too much. Things like focus speed and overall ability to grab an action shot are just (IMO) better on the S10+
Battery life is almost identical for me but I switch off Huawei's power management for most apps via Settings, Battery, App Launch. If I don't do this then apps like Google Photos and my security camera software simply don't work properly - even apps that use audio playback (for videos) when the screen is off get switched off by default after a few minutes in EMUI. This brutal battery management is why Huaweis have such good stamina out of the box, but once you disable it and ensure all your apps work properly then the difference becomes negligible. Remember that there's only 100mAh more capacity in the P30 Pro.
The software is in my opinion much nicer on the Samsung - yes you can hide some things with Nova Launcher, but the little touches like the slicker notification popups, the more user-friendly lockscreen, the more slickly designed notification area, Edge Lighting etc make for a nicer day-to-day experience to my mind. I even like the fact that you can turn off the fingerprint unlock indicator on the S10+; on the P30 Pro the indicator lights up every time you move the phone, as well as every time you unlock (and it's *very* bright at night). I've run a display test and I find that a small patch where the fingerprint scanner resides is slightly shifting in tone compared to the rest of the display, and I'm concerned that this is screen burn caused by regular unlocking.
My S10+ has also had April security for a couple of weeks. My P30 Pro is still on March, despite being released in April (!). I'm not all that happy with Huawei's update reliability, and even to get this March update I had to use a PC.
I will say that Night Mode on the P30 Pro is really good, I like the overall feel-in-hand and it is nice and smooth to use. I still like the P30 Pro but between the two I think the S10+ has the edge - not just for the things I listed earlier.

This phone is dead as far as roms go

I did a lot to unlock my mate 10 pro and it has been such a waste of time that I am back on stock again.
I think the mate 10 pro is by far the best smartphones available today it doesn't overheat like new gen snapdragons where they start to lag like s22 ultra or Xperia 1 mkiv and it still holds a record in battery life, I've tested all new phones and no phone gets to 9 hours sot as the mate 10 pro on Max manual brightness it has a very capable camera and ir blaster not to mention square flat oled display which is impossible today, performance is good enough for me I am considering swapping the display to give it new life.
This phone is incredible and noone seems to care even openkirin is gone the website is basically parked
This phone is dead but it really shouldn't be
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I did a lot to unlock my mate 10 pro and it has been such a waste of time that I am back on stock again.
I think the mate 10 pro is by far the best smartphones available today it doesn't overheat like new gen snapdragons where they start to lag like s22 ultra or Xperia 1 mkiv and it still holds a record in battery life, I've tested all new phones and no phone gets to 9 hours sot as the mate 10 pro on Max manual brightness it has a very capable camera and ir blaster not to mention square flat oled display which is impossible today, performance is good enough for me I am considering swapping the display to give it new life.
This phone is incredible and noone seems to care even openkirin is gone the website is basically parked
This phone is dead but it really shouldn't be
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Huawei devices suck when it comes to custom roms, I unlock the bootloader of my P10 Lite only for me to go back to stock as well and lock it again. Most GSI Roms I used either don't boot or boot but work horrifically and the only ones that works kinda well is OpenKirin AOSP roms but those are semi-outdated and would be useless if your phone still receiving updates

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