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I didn't use the note much, but it needs to charge each day. This is bad than tablet. Any software to save battery? I tried 'air plane mode' sofeware, but it also turns off phone after sleep.
truelies1 said:
I didn't use the note much, but it needs to charge each day. This is bad than tablet. Any software to save battery? I tried 'air plane mode' sofeware, but it also turns off phone after sleep.
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What apps and widgets are you running? Have you gone through 2 or 3 full discharge/recharge cycles? There are apps out there that can detect if any app is consuming your battery but you will have to search the forums as I don't know of any first hand.
Also, which ROM are you using? When I was using Rocket Rom v22 with AbyssKernel 4.1, my Note would last more than a day on the same charge even with moderate use. Give that a try as it also really boosts performance.
I'm currently on Team Rocket Rom (ICS based) v5 but have not used it extensively to comment on battery yet. So far with 3 activesync email accounts (all push), some widgets running (weather, clock, etc.) and the Note sitting idle consume about 2-3% battery per hour. Will monitor this.
most smartphones ned to be charged every day, what battery life are you expecting to get ?
battery depends on the usage and applications you installed on the phone.
have you tried rooting already? usually custom roms have the best alternatives of extending your phone's battery and giving it an optimal performance.
Try to stop some bloatwares that your phone's loading up everytime it starts up(from rebooting)
FreakPrism said:
What apps and widgets are you running? Have you gone through 2 or 3 full discharge/recharge cycles? There are apps out there that can detect if any app is consuming your battery but you will have to search the forums as I don't know of any first hand.
Also, which ROM are you using? When I was using Rocket Rom v22 with AbyssKernel 4.1, my Note would last more than a day on the same charge even with moderate use. Give that a try as it also really boosts performance.
I'm currently on Team Rocket Rom (ICS based) v5 but have not used it extensively to comment on battery yet. So far with 3 activesync email accounts (all push), some widgets running (weather, clock, etc.) and the Note sitting idle consume about 2-3% battery per hour. Will monitor this.
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I am using la2 rom. Here i attached an picture.
Geez... i personally feel that one day charge is reasonable especially with the juice required to drive the big display.
Anyway, Juice Defender premium is one app that has helped me, and may help you too.
Since you got Activesync, with the premium version of JD, you can customize app to be excluded from 'power saving', so that the inbox is up to date.
+1 for juicedefender.
Other tips that may not be obvious to first-time smartphone owners are:
1. Set your screen brightness to auto. You don't need the brightness cranked right up all the time.
2. Disable bluetooth and GPS if you're not using them. Juicedefender will do a pretty good job of managing your other radios.
3. If you've got email syncing set up on your phone, set it to check as rarely as you can put up with. Push email uses a LOT of battery life, and even a scheduled check can blaze through your battery if it's happening often enough.
4. If you've put on a custom ROM your phone may be reporting inaccurate battery stats. Give it a full charge, boot into clockwork recovery and wipe your battery stats. You'll find a few days after that your phone will start reporting more accurately.
Good luck, and if any of this was unclear feel free to ask further questions.
j.wong said:
Geez... i personally feel that one day charge is reasonable especially with the juice required to drive the big display.
Anyway, Juice Defender premium is one app that has helped me, and may help you too.
Since you got Activesync, with the premium version of JD, you can customize app to be excluded from 'power saving', so that the inbox is up to date.
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I only got one phone call for one min., so i think 1 day is too short.
truelies1 said:
I am using la2 rom. Here i attached an picture.
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Try a later ROM to see if the same issue exists. I think you should instal rocket rom v22 - you'll be happy with performance and battery life based on your usage.
try to calibrate your battery as well... there are many apps out there that offers better battery calibration or you can do a manual calibration as well.
Give it some time and upgrade your ROM
I am getting great battery life. It runs for full day (24 hrs) with 30% of battery usage. though in a day i dont use it much, just 5 to 10 calls of around half an hour to 40 minutes.. data and gps always on.. screen brightness on auto...
My note running the OEM battery last me about 6 hrs.
Averages about 45mins talk time/day
About 50 SMS/day
Screen brightness set to 100
Checks email every 5 mins
Using a live wallpaper
Refreshes the daily weather using Accuweather every hr
Bluetooth always turned on
Battery Widget
Fancy Widget
ESPN scoreboard ticker widget refreshes
Twitter running all day
Facebook Widget syncing all day
and more...
sideways86 said:
+1 for juicedefender.
Other tips that may not be obvious to first-time smartphone owners are:
1. Set your screen brightness to auto. You don't need the brightness cranked right up all the time.
2. Disable bluetooth and GPS if you're not using them. Juicedefender will do a pretty good job of managing your other radios.
3. If you've got email syncing set up on your phone, set it to check as rarely as you can put up with. Push email uses a LOT of battery life, and even a scheduled check can blaze through your battery if it's happening often enough.
4. If you've put on a custom ROM your phone may be reporting inaccurate battery stats. Give it a full charge, boot into clockwork recovery and wipe your battery stats. You'll find a few days after that your phone will start reporting more accurately.
Good luck, and if any of this was unclear feel free to ask further questions.
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^ This. Or better yet, just always set your brightness to the lowest brightness setting, 50% afaik. And use black/dark wallpapers and always turn on night mode (if applicable, especially when using your browser)
If in case you need to adjust the brightness, you don't have to go through the jungle of settings, just click notification bar and slide horizontally to change to your preferred brightness.
Jd is hit n miss will actually helping out. If your phone sleeps a lot jd is nice at keeping cell or wifi off if your like me and on it every 10 minutes then toggling data and other things can consume more juice. .... I have tried with and without on my tablets and phones and see no big difference depending on use.
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I was pretty happy with my battery until two days ago. I use my note very little, for e-mail checking (which I pull manually) a few times a day, and to make two or three phone calls per day. I also text my kids occasionally. GPS and Bluetooth are off most of the time. Battery used to last me about two and a half days under these conditions, which seemed reasonable to me. All of a sudden, two days ago, I charged my battery, and after a full charge it drained 60% overnight. Thought that it was a fluke, so rebooted my phone, fully charged again, and the same thing (over half of the juice gone overnight) happened again. Battery stats tell me that Android OS were 100% responsible for overnight drainage. Any clues? I am on stock ROM, by the way.
Thank you.
Flaco05 said:
I was pretty happy with my battery until two days ago. I use my note very little, for e-mail checking (which I pull manually) a few times a day, and to make two or three phone calls per day. I also text my kids occasionally. GPS and Bluetooth are off most of the time. Battery used to last me about two and a half days under these conditions, which seemed reasonable to me. All of a sudden, two days ago, I charged my battery, and after a full charge it drained 60% overnight. Thought that it was a fluke, so rebooted my phone, fully charged again, and the same thing (over half of the juice gone overnight) happened again. Battery stats tell me that Android OS were 100% responsible for overnight drainage. Any clues? I am on stock ROM, by the way.
Thank you.
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Get a good app to check what is using the battery or keeping the phone awake. This last is the most likely.
Baddass Battery Monitor is my recommendation.
Not a single phone call, only used about 10 mins. after 21 hours only 11% left. Install Jd with 'balanced' option.
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Get a good app to check what is using the battery or keeping the phone awake. This last is the most likely.
Baddass Battery Monitor is my recommendation.
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Thank you. I will give that a try.
Badass, got to love that name....
Ok, I used the Badass monitor to see what's going on. Once again, no phone usage, quick overnight battery drainage. Android OS 100% responsible, and the main power sucker is the Kernel (96%). Why is this happening? And, is there a remedy? I have changed nothing that would trigger this! My Note is still within the return window, so if there is anything wrong with it, I will return it.
Thanks again.
Flaco05 said:
Ok, I used the Badass monitor to see what's going on. Once again, no phone usage, quick overnight battery drainage. Android OS 100% responsible, and the main power sucker is the Kernel (96%). Why is this happening? And, is there a remedy? I have changed nothing that would trigger this! My Note is still within the return window, so if there is anything wrong with it, I will return it.
Thanks again.
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Badass Monitor is very useful, my note was drained by Dolphin Browser, it used 38% of battery. Seems like for this browser, if I only press home key to exit, It will keep running?
I think the reason the battery drain fast is we press 'home' key to return to main menu, that will keep a lot of apps run in the background.
I love the phone but battery performance is poor. I installed BBS. Enclosed a screenshot. I'm not rooted so can't look into alarm details. Makes me sad. LTE speed amazing but how can you enjoy phone if recharging once during day? Any advice greatly appreciated. I have disabled anything extraneous that I could
I'm using 2x.battery pro right now. Tried all the others too.
The same app set on my Xperia U has none of these battery issues.
Just charge in overnight, I don't see the problem in that. Then you won't have any problems.
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I do
I do charge every night. But most of time charging in evening as well
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I do charge every night. But most of time charging in evening as well
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charging continuously over extended periods can cause battery failure also heavy use of the phone whilst charging can damage the battery and as the T is a solid phone (cannot change battery) id recommend having it turned off whilst charging that way it will fully charge and you wont damage the battery more .... also try turning data connection 3g wifi etc etc off when your not using it as they can drain the battery a lot checking for facebook ,gmail and almost all your other apps , also listening to music and using bluetooth use more battery too
AW: [Q] Xperia T battery just not there, advice?
1. is that avast installed? Remove it. Useless anyway if you'd ever need it and only uses resources if yu dont need it.
2. battery surveillance crap? Remove it. Known to be very prone to cause wakeup.
3. Update your system, .3.195 is not the latest available.
4. About 5000 wakeups by what looks to me a failing google backup. A wakeup multiplied by 3-6 seconds on-time equals 15000-30000 seconds. Thats 5-8 hours. Thats like what the battery can give. Something is ****ed up, I suggest a fullwipe and start over from scratch.
Oh, and never mind that crap about turning all services off and totally rendering your device useless. Correctly setup the T (TL...?) lasts for a whole day with quite some abuse. And I simply dont trust the minimally booted kernel not enough to correctly regulate charging current and keep the voltages and temperatures in check. I trust the fully booted and full fledged kernel more in that regard. And turning off your device to make it use MORE battery after turning it on in the morning because it needs to go and sync all services again, check all data and find out if anything in the cloud got updated in the meantime and most importantly, needs to run the media scanner again, a very battery hungry process...? No thanks. I'll leave it on. And if that would make me feel bad, I'd use the flightmode as a maximum measure. Still better than killing the device alltogether.
Seems like to me that you might be using loads of craps that you don't need mate.
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Hello guys I'm a newbie here so please do explain to me some of the stuff if you need to
so recently (about 2 weeks ago) I used this guide to root my Incredible S and did everything except the Blackrose part
and since then
I've noticed that my phone has drained its battery a lot quicker than usual
I lost 11% of battery when I woke up, fully charging it the night before
I usually do not use it much, only a call every 2 days or so, and I do not have internet connection
so I cannot understand how I have to charge it every day now, when it used to last 4 days (on Sense)
here's a pic from betterybatterystats
thanks everyone
------- 4/10 edit
ok
back to stock rom
it has the SAME problem
"No data connection" and "No or Unknown Signal" on Betterbatterystats
with steep drops in battery whenever there is "Mobile network signal"
and next to no drop whatsoever when there isn't
PLEASE HELP ><
new attachments down there with stock rom
tell me if you need a translation
THANKS
davidchuyaya said:
Hello guys I'm a newbie here so please do explain to me some of the stuff if you need to
so recently (about 2 weeks ago) I used this guide to root my Incredible S and did everything except the Blackrose part
and since then
I've noticed that my phone has drained its battery a lot quicker than usual
I lost 11% of battery when I woke up, fully charging it the night before
I usually do not use it much, only a call every 2 days or so, and I do not have internet connection
so I cannot understand how I have to charge it every day now, when it used to last 4 days (on Sense)
here's a pic from betterybatterystats
thanks everyone
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Battery drain has already been discussed much in the CM10.1 thread. Its been discussed in practically every AOSP thread really.
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Battery drain has already been discussed much in the CM10.1 thread. Its been discussed in practically every AOSP thread really.
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I know and I've tried to look around for answers for quite a few days
but for most people
it's either the same as Sense or something else (too many apps, not charging fully...)
and for those with similar conditions
I can't find solutions for
and the problem got worse today
in the 7 hours I slept yesterday
the battery drained from more than 50% to nothing
so the alarm didn't ring because it shut itself off
davidchuyaya said:
I know and I've tried to look around for answers for quite a few days
but for most people
it's either the same as Sense or something else (too many apps, not charging fully...)
and for those with similar conditions
I can't find solutions for
and the problem got worse today
in the 7 hours I slept yesterday
the battery drained from more than 50% to nothing
so the alarm didn't ring because it shut itself off
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The standard charging time isnt what it says on the box or anything. It should be roughly 6 hours from 0% to 100% and thats providing you plug it into an AC outlet. I would suggest trying an app called Greenify. It hibernates certain apps/ services that may not be in use thus saving battery. I would also regularly check the Running Apps in settings and clear out anything unecessary.
072665995 said:
The standard charging time isnt what it says on the box or anything. It should be roughly 6 hours from 0% to 100% and thats providing you plug it into an AC outlet. I would suggest trying an app called Greenify. It hibernates certain apps/ services that may not be in use thus saving battery. I would also regularly check the Running Apps in settings and clear out anything unecessary.
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nonono
I don't have a charging problem
it's a drainage problem
and about Greenify
I already installed that when I looked over the battery saving guide (which didn't help)
I literally have 5 apps in the Running Apps section
the part I don't get is
why does Cyanogenmod 10.1 use battery so much quicker than Sense
when I have 1/4 the apps I originally did?
it's the "No Data Connection" and "No or Unknown Signal" part really bothers me.
oh and thanks for the time btw
davidchuyaya said:
nonono
I don't have a charging problem
it's a drainage problem
and about Greenify
I already installed that when I looked over the battery saving guide (which didn't help)
I literally have 5 apps in the Running Apps section
the part I don't get is
why does Cyanogenmod 10.1 use battery so much quicker than Sense
when I have 1/4 the apps I originally did?
it's the "No Data Connection" and "No or Unknown Signal" part really bothers me.
oh and thanks for the time btw
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Hmm then this battery drainage is strange. Try making a full backup in recovery. Then clean flash the ROM again. If the problem still persists, then I have absolutely no idea whats wrong lol
072665995 said:
Hmm then this battery drainage is strange. Try making a full backup in recovery. Then clean flash the ROM again. If the problem still persists, then I have absolutely no idea whats wrong lol
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Actually
I tried that...
on Sunday afternoon I reflashed it
my exact steps:
1. ClockworkMod backup
2. Install from zip
3. Advanced restore - data (I restored the whole thing too once before that, but thought that just restoring the data might actually change something)
and that's when it went from 50% to 0 overnight
not looking too good -.-
davidchuyaya said:
Actually
I tried that...
on Sunday afternoon I reflashed it
my exact steps:
1. ClockworkMod backup
2. Install from zip
3. Advanced restore - data (I restored the whole thing too once before that, but thought that just restoring the data might actually change something)
and that's when it went from 50% to 0 overnight
not looking too good -.-
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Well then sit tight. Szezso is gonna release a CM10.1 for us as soon as he gets his new USB port.
oh well then
thanks for the help anyways
I'll just keep waiting
might want to go back to Sense though...
and more pics from BetterBatteryStats
just in case anyone knows what they mean
Drained 56% of my battery while I was asleep yesterday (for about 7 hours)
only 6% in the time I was at school, because of Airplane mode (I even listened to music and played a little Doodle Jump)
but I obviously want a phone to CALL PEOPLE
so I'm reverting to stock Rom
OK
so that didn't work out
I edited the main article
hope someone can help!!
meanwhile I'll look for more articles online since I know it's not (really) CM's problem anymore
thanks
Ensure to charge your mobile fully and after a NORMAL usage (calls, WiFi, Mobile Data on).
Just share the dump file from betterbatterystats. It would help to analyse better.
Edit:
Could notice you are using some widgets in the home screen. Usually widgets with high refresh rate drains your battery.
2. Facebook app is causing the partial wakelock. Even when the screen is off, the app is using your CPU. Try to disable autosync if it's enabled
3. Audio_out3 wakelock is due to phone vibrator is enabled. May be during call or keyboard haptic feature.
Power manager service wakelock is common and its in good level.
Try to check your CPU freq n governor.
And adjust accordingly. One more, Li-on battery should not be charged fully. Just charge till 85-90%. The battery will drain little lower compared to fully charged device. And you need to charge your device only when battery is low. Frequent charging n discharging will affect the battery life. Consistent Charge and discharge cycle is encouraged.
Try to share your fresh dump here or in batter battery status thread. There are many folks to help you with.
sent from CyberMachine
Cyb0rgz said:
Ensure to charge your mobile fully and after a NORMAL usage (calls, WiFi, Mobile Data on).
Just share the dump file from betterbatterystats. It would help to analyse better.
Edit:
Could notice you are using some widgets in the home screen. Usually widgets with high refresh rate drains your battery.
2. Facebook app is causing the partial wakelock. Even when the screen is off, the app is using your CPU. Try to disable autosync if it's enabled
3. Audio_out3 wakelock is due to phone vibrator is enabled. May be during call or keyboard haptic feature.
Power manager service wakelock is common and its in good level.
Try to check your CPU freq n governor.
And adjust accordingly. One more, Li-on battery should not be charged fully. Just charge till 85-90%. The battery will drain little lower compared to fully charged device. And you need to charge your device only when battery is low. Frequent charging n discharging will affect the battery life. Consistent Charge and discharge cycle is encouraged.
Try to share your fresh dump here or in batter battery status thread. There are many folks to help you with.
sent from CyberMachine
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Thanks for the detailed reply sir
My widgets (aka weather & tasks) only refresh manually, and nothing is on Autosync (in the auto sync menu, anyways)
originally had only vibration for calls, turned that off too now
and what is "CPU freq n governor"?
didn't know that about the batteries
I'll do that next time
and I just reinstalled betterbatterystats, so I'll post the Dump File after a few hours
Thanks again!!
davidchuyaya said:
Thanks for the detailed reply sir.
and what is "CPU freq n governor"?
didn't know that about the batteries
I'll do that next time
and I just reinstalled betterbatterystats, so I'll post the Dump File
Thanks again!!
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I mean CPU frequency steps and CPU governor. It's a kernel thing. Just search xda, you will lot of info regarding that.
Sure, post your dump with normal usage.
It's easy to click thanks rather than expressing in words
sent from CyberMachine
Cyb0rgz said:
I mean CPU frequency steps and CPU governor. It's a kernel thing. Just search xda, you will lot of info regarding that.
Sure, post your dump with normal usage.
It's easy to click thanks rather than expressing in words
sent from CyberMachine
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got it then
I'm going to install SetCPU
but because the RUU unrooted my phone, I'm going to have to root it again
meanwhile
the Dump File
***4/12 8:20PM edit
finished rooting, reinstalled stuff
I installed No-frills CPU Control instead
since it's free
but I have no idea what I'm supposed to do with it
am I suppose to just record the data and post it here?
Um...
guys?
General tips I can think of are:
Use black theme on display settings,
greenify doze setting using adb.
Any suggestions just post below.
beache said:
General tips I can think of are:
Use black theme on display settings,
greenify doze setting using adb.
Any suggestions just post below.
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I take it you mean non-root?
- Brightness!!!!
- Apps running in the background and preventing phone from sleeping permission; Downlaod Shizuku Manager and App Ops from the Play Store, run the script via adb and limit the apps you don't want to have those permissions. Instant messaging: Don't limit run in background
- Did I mention brightness!?!?
- I don't do this one, but don't charge your phone past 80%. This is more of a long term battery saver, as it will cause less damage to the battery. Also don't keep your phone plugged in overnight. (I don't leave mine in)
- Disable radios while not in use. I never use NFC or nearby device scanning, I turn those off. Wi-Fi and Bluetooth are never on while not in use. You'll get in the habit of turning them off it you start.
Craz Basics said:
I take it you mean non-root?
- Brightness!!!!
- Apps running in the background and preventing phone from sleeping permission; Downlaod Shizuku Manager and App Ops from the Play Store, run the script via adb and limit the apps you don't want to have those permissions. Instant messaging: Don't limit run in background
- Did I mention brightness!?!?
- I don't do this one, but don't charge your phone past 80%. This is more of a long term battery saver, as it will cause less damage to the battery. Also don't keep your phone plugged in overnight. (I don't leave mine in)
- Disable radios while not in use. I never use NFC or nearby device scanning, I turn those off. Wi-Fi and Bluetooth are never on while not in use. You'll get in the habit of turning them off it you start.
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Leaving the phone plugged in all night wont do any damage to the battery. Once charged the current to the battery is cut off except for when it needs trickle charging throughout the night, the power used by the phone will then come from the wall adapter. But if you dont want to charge your phone all of the way, then thats when you dont leave it plugged in all night unless you have a circuit to disconnect power at a certain battery percentage. Oh man that gives me an idea.
I should make a small circuit thats linked via bluetooth to an app, so pretty much a power adapter that you plug your phone into, but once you reach a certain percentage, the phone tells the adapter to cut power and only turn on to get it back up to that certain percentage.
Okay that was really side tracked.
Back to the post.
Like Craz said, brightness and radios.
If you are rooted, download KA or EXKM and underclock your cpu, thatll help out a bit, also if rooted you could try a custom kernel
Root:
Force Doze
Naptime
Greenify
Custom kernel
CPU underclock
Use tasker to limit cpu speed when screen off or in certain apps
Non Root:
Dark themes
Lower brightness
Make sure apps arent running in the background that use a lot of power
Disable location services
Disable radios unless in use (tasker helps especially with root)
If you plan to have your phone for over a year or two, then the charge limits, but capacity wont change much within the first few hundred cycles
Use Wifi as much as possible (cell uses more power)
Disable screen off gestures
Make sure doze and advanced optimizations are enabled
Tips for better battery life.
And a lot of common sense.
tuncan said:
Tips for better battery life.
And a lot of common sense.
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very helpful thanks
chewingum16 said:
very helpful thanks
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Tnx. :good:
Zombie said:
Leaving the phone plugged in all night wont do any damage to the battery. Once charged the current to the battery is cut off except for when it needs trickle charging throughout the night, the power used by the phone will then come from the wall adapter. But if you dont want to charge your phone all of the way, then thats when you dont leave it plugged in all night unless you have a circuit to disconnect power at a certain battery percentage. Oh man that gives me an idea.
I should make a small circuit thats linked via bluetooth to an app, so pretty much a power adapter that you plug your phone into, but once you reach a certain percentage, the phone tells the adapter to cut power and only turn on to get it back up to that certain percentage.
Okay that was really side tracked.
Back to the post.
Like Craz said, brightness and radios.
If you are rooted, download KA or EXKM and underclock your cpu, thatll help out a bit, also if rooted you could try a custom kernel
Root:
Force Doze
Naptime
Greenify
Custom kernel
CPU underclock
Use tasker to limit cpu speed when screen off or in certain apps
Non Root:
Dark themes
Lower brightness
Make sure apps arent running in the background that use a lot of power
Disable location services
Disable radios unless in use (tasker helps especially with root)
If you plan to have your phone for over a year or two, then the charge limits, but capacity wont change much within the first few hundred cycles
Use Wifi as much as possible (cell uses more power)
Disable screen off gestures
Make sure doze and advanced optimizations are enabled
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yes it will on many cases, but I can't tell with the OP5. Is the circuit will cut-off the battery from the phone to avoid drain? If yes, in that case, it won't hurt significantly the battery.
In general , what can hurt li based batteries : time, heat and numbers of time of electrons changing direction.
Having the phone plugged in, every X time the % will drop, and the charging circuit will trigger the battery.
As I said, can't tell how op5 is working, and it probably be minimal anyway. But technically it will reduce the capacity : http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
Heat : 20W charger, even if its a vooc, at one point the battery will get a high current load = heat, and chemical li-po arrangement changes.
Time : cant do nothing here, chemical arrangement will degrade, its a normal process for most battery, specially li based one.
But at the end, not much people would see any difference, since nowadays people changing their phone every 1-2 years, fck ridiculous...
Back to topic :
Pixel off apps , many of them on the play strore, can't tell which one is good or not.
Basically, it will turn off pixels on the screen.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.anrapps.pixelbatterysaver&hl=fr
i find if i turn off the wifi always scanning feature and also turn off keep wifi on during sleep saves battery. actually i keep all wifi off unless i'm currently using it. as already mentioned, location services off, since i keep phone on all the time i get data through that. i've experienced battery times up to 6 days if calls in&out are 10 or lower each day and each call no more than 3 min, i'm a firm believer in hello, just facts, goodbye. i know people that live life via a phone find that strange but they will die of brain cancer not me. my neighbor is on phone no less than 7 hours a day just bullsh*tting and he talks real funny, i think his brain is rotting already. check to see which apps run all the time and kill those you do not need. as mentioned, lower screen brightness. 90% of the time mine is a couple clicks from as low as it can be and it is fine. i'd do the dark thing but it f*cks with my eyes. keep all apps closed you are not presently using instead of loaded in background.
dkryder said:
i find if i turn off the wifi always scanning feature and also turn off keep wifi on during sleep saves battery. actually i keep all wifi off unless i'm currently using it. as already mentioned, location services off, since i keep phone on all the time i get data through that. i've experienced battery times up to 6 days if calls in&out are 10 or lower each day and each call no more than 3 min, i'm a firm believer in hello, just facts, goodbye. i know people that live life via a phone find that strange but they will die of brain cancer not me. my neighbor is on phone no less than 7 hours a day just bullsh*tting and he talks real funny, i think his brain is rotting already. check to see which apps run all the time and kill those you do not need. as mentioned, lower screen brightness. 90% of the time mine is a couple clicks from as low as it can be and it is fine. i'd do the dark thing but it f*cks with my eyes. keep all apps closed you are not presently using instead of loaded in background.
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I can't really tell if you are joking about the brain cancer part or not. Some people might take you seriously
shangxor said:
I can't really tell if you are joking about the brain cancer part or not. Some people might take you seriously
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oh, sorry about that.
https://www.jrselectrohealth.com/in...ween-1985-and-2015-in-the-u-k/?c=cf13ce20305c
dkryder said:
oh, sorry about that.
https://www.jrselectrohealth.com/in...ween-1985-and-2015-in-the-u-k/?c=cf13ce20305c
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"While the new plots in themselves say nothing about any possible links between cell phones and brain tumors, they go a long way toward puncturing the argument offered by numerous public health officials and media outlets that such an association is highly unlikely because the overall incidence of brain tumors has remained relatively stable over the last number of years."
http://microwavenews.com/short-takes-archive/changing-mix-uk-bts
He had based part of his study on incorrect data also.
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shangxor said:
"While the new plots in themselves say nothing about any possible links between cell phones and brain tumors, they go a long way toward puncturing the argument offered by numerous public health officials and media outlets that such an association is highly unlikely because the overall incidence of brain tumors has remained relatively stable over the last number of years."
http://microwavenews.com/short-takes-archive/changing-mix-uk-bts
He had based part of his study on incorrect data also.
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yes, i offered the link as a punchline to your comment about joking. however i do have a question about your comment,
"He had based part of his study on incorrect data also"
why didn't you include the part of the study and the incorrect data? because, when statement like this is made it is left to the reader to determine the part of the study and the incorrect data which may lead to misunderstandings.
Anyone found a consistent way to limit battery charge % on Android 11? The custom settings I used with Battery Charge Limit app on 10 work intermittently on 11. Often times I'd wake up to 100% charge.
Currently I'm using Advanced Charging Controller magisk module with it's accompanying AccA app but often AccA gets killed in the background even after not optimizing it in battery optimization. The only workaround I've found is to create a macro that opens AccA every time I plug in the charger. With that step it's consistent but I'd like to find something not so hacky.
I've been running A11 for about a week and did not encounter any issues with Battery Charge Limit. Maybe make sure that it's not battery optimized? I have it "not optimized" because I'm paranoid about it, rather than having direct problems.
jljtgr said:
I've been running A11 for about a week and did not encounter any issues with Battery Charge Limit. Maybe make sure that it's not battery optimized? I have it "not optimized" because I'm paranoid about it, rather than having direct problems.
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I made sure battery charge limit wasn't optimized. You're using the same custom setting from android 10? Maybe I'll try it again
This the settings you have?
Path Data: /sys/class/power_supply/charger/charge_disable
Enable Value: 0
Disabled Value: 1
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I made sure battery charge limit wasn't optimized. You're using the same custom setting from android 10? Maybe I'll try it again
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I didn't change anything at all... and honestly with all of the other A11 problems I've been having... I didn't even think to check that it was working. It just has been. I also double-checked with AccuBattery and the history never shows above my limit.
This is my control file settings as seen on the main screen:
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/sys/class/power_supply/charger/charge_disable, 0, 1
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I didn't change anything at all... and honestly with all of the other A11 problems I've been having... I didn't even think to check that it was working. It just has been. I also double-checked with AccuBattery and the history never shows above my limit.
This is my control file settings as seen on the main screen:
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/sys/class/power_supply/charger/charge_disable, 0, 1
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I think that's the custom setting probably restored from your Google backup. Same one I was using. I'm gonna try it again though, thanks
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Anyone found a consistent way to limit battery charge % on Android 11? The custom settings I used with Battery Charge Limit app on 10 work intermittently on 11. Often times I'd wake up to 100% charge. Currently I'm using Advanced Charging Controller magisk module with it's accompanying AccA app but often AccA gets killed in the background even after not optimizing it in battery optimization. The only workaround I've found is to create a macro that opens AccA every time I plug in the charger. With that step it's consistent but I'd like to find something not so hacky.
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Have you tried Accubattery? Along with charge limiting it has other useful features, including reporting battery capacity vs. new (under health).
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Have you tried Accubattery? Along with charge limiting it has other useful features, including reporting battery capacity vs. new (under health).
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Accubattery is fine and all for reporting and giving an idea of where you want to stop charging... but it has no ability to limit charging. The only thing it can do is nag you to take the phone off the charger. This thread is about root applications actually blocking the phone from charging past a certain level without making the user do anything or even notifying the user about what's being done.
I realize this is a couple of months old. but I just got a new OnePlus 8T, now rooted, and I'm trying to use Battery Charge Limit on it. I can't quite figure out the settings to have it work consistently. Let's say the phone is already at 100% when I plug it in. Battery Charge Limit starts, but then it flip-flops between Charging and Not Charging, starting and restarting. The phone woke me up last night because it was making a ding every time Battery Charge Limit flipped between charging and not charging. One would think that if the phone was at 100% Battery Charge Limit would turn off charging and let it drop down to my 85% limit and then back up to 91%, but never got above 91%. Thoughts? Thanks.
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I realize this is a couple of months old. but I just got a new OnePlus 8T, now rooted, and I'm trying to use Battery Charge Limit on it. I can't quite figure out the settings to have it work consistently. Let's say the phone is already at 100% when I plug it in. Battery Charge Limit starts, but then it flip-flops between Charging and Not Charging, starting and restarting. The phone woke me up last night because it was making a ding every time Battery Charge Limit flipped between charging and not charging. One would think that if the phone was at 100% Battery Charge Limit would turn off charging and let it drop down to my 85% limit and then back up to 91%, but never got above 91%. Thoughts? Thanks.
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It's possible it's not configured correctly for your phone. You can also just disable that notification channel, since mostly it's just annoying. It constantly fliping might mean that there's more than one control file for your phone type and it's using an ineffectual one that the OS is overriding immediately. For example, the default one it detects for Pixel 4's is not the one it should use.
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It's possible it's not configured correctly for your phone. You can also just disable that notification channel, since mostly it's just annoying. It constantly fliping might mean that there's more than one control file for your phone type and it's using an ineffectual one that the OS is overriding immediately. For example, the default one it detects for Pixel 4's is not the one it should use.
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Thanks for the reply. The problem is that I use the notification to trigger Tasker profiles, so I was hoping to figure out a way to get it to stop flipping back and forth while also retaining the notification. I think it's just the standard control file since it's a OnePlus phone, but I'm not sure I can figure out otherwise. When I first start using BCL, I found the control file and was able to manipulate it with a SQL editor and Shell commands in Tasker, but I haven't poked around the OnePlus 8T that much yet.
Just as a PSA, I think Adaptive Charging from the January update can conflict with this. On days where I set a morning alarm, I found that my battery was more full than it should be. I suspect that Adaptive Charging does something that Battery Charge Limit cannot block. I won't know for a few days if turning this off in settings fixes things 100% or the January update just really screws with this.
Battery Charge Limit settings for pixel 3
Hi all, I like the app, Battery Charge Limit (root required), but was wondering how to set the control file. I works fine with Xperia (with/without Lineage), but doesn't work with Pixel 3 stock firmware (Android 10). And finally found how to...
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Well, as a root method it does seem to work. Depending on your taste, it might be cleaner than an app toggling a different variable. Of course you need an app to set the file back to 100 when you want it. Some Tasker widgets work for my purposes... could probably make it a QuickSettings toggle in the shade, actually.
Bottom of that thread, I was wondering specifically if there might be way to force an unrooted device to think it met one of these conditions, so it only charges to 80%.
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Battery Charge Limit settings for pixel 3
Hi all, I like the app, Battery Charge Limit (root required), but was wondering how to set the control file. I works fine with Xperia (with/without Lineage), but doesn't work with Pixel 3 stock firmware (Android 10). And finally found how to...
forum.xda-developers.com
i.e.
... your phone automatically limits charging to about 80% under certain conditions:
Continuous charging under high battery drain conditions, like game play.
Continuous charging for four days or more.
I've done very little research on this, but I expect the ways to fool the phone into thinking those things are happening is even more complicated than using that root file control. Meaning also requiring root but manipulating other control files.
I suppose you could have a case and a ribbon USBC connector that fools the charging logic into thinking it is constantly connected to a hardware charger even though it's still at a net negative power. After 4 days of having the case on, it might work. I don't know why anyone would have already built something like that, however.
I would root my phone but, as my daily driver, I need things like banking apps to work. They (at least some) detect rooted phones and refuse to load as a security measure (which is probably a good thing) :-(
Banking apps are usually just a frontend to their website used API. They have no problem with you using a browser on a rooted phone or Linux PC, etc. Any app that stores sensitive data on your phone and relies 100% on the filesystem being locked down was created wrong and lazily. The only thing about banking apps that might be legitimate is when things like unique CC info is stored for NFC and using a TPM can't be assured. Most banking apps, however, do not store anything sensitive on your phone aside from a login token which all websites also do. (it's called a cookie)
My personal preference is that no app is better for me than being able to root my phone. I don't play mobile games that want to keep you from cheating and I don't even care about Google Pay, which I'm not sure has legitimate need to block root either... they just do it to keep banks happy, which as I suggested, I think they're full of BS.
The only thing more BS than this no-root nonsense from app companies is when carriers do it by locking bootloaders. I try to re-use my phones for as long as possible and without the ability to limit battery charge, the batteries swell and die quickly, every time. It's good news that Google added code where phones plugged in constantly will limit charge automatically... but I doubt there is a way to trick it from the outside. (without root)
Hmmm. Maybe lazy programming, but I'm not ready to change my Bank so I can root my phone
Back to the topic... I don't think I'm ready to trust the /sys/devices/platform/soc/soc:google,charger/charge_stop_level method. Several times I found my phone at low battery and not pulling any current from the USB port, but not losing charge either. It had put itself into a stalemate where it was stuck below 10% for hours. Resetting the value from 60 to 100 allowed charging again. The battery charge limit app never really caused this. So I guess I'm going back to the full app method.
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Back to the topic... I don't think I'm ready to trust the /sys/devices/platform/soc/soc:google,charger/charge_stop_level method. Several times I found my phone at low battery and not pulling any current from the USB port, but not losing charge either. It had put itself into a stalemate where it was stuck below 10% for hours. Resetting the value from 60 to 100 allowed charging again. The battery charge limit app never really caused this. So I guess I'm going back to the full app method.
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I would like to definitely solve this problem I have been struggling with for years. What did you do, can you please help me? It seems extremely similar to what you wrote here.
I have been using battery charge limit on my Xiaomi Mi Mix (1st model) since android 7.1 (lineageos) (and I might have messed with a couple files, not sure, can't remember). When updating to android 9 (lineageos) couple years ago I started having the problem you described. Also I notice sometimes I plug the phone at safe levels such as 35% or 60% and it doesn't charge same thing. Also it only charges with certain chargers and not others.
Earlier today it was 11% battery, could not boot android, didn't charge. I got the idea for the first time to try booting in TWRP (on+volume up buttons) and it immediately started charging at full speed. So there's obviously nothing wrong in the hardware, it's software or just config.
I would like to definitely solve this problem, but I don't understand exactly what you did on your side to fix it. Please reply or message me if you have any suggestion Thank you!