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Hello everybody,
I am using Note 9 for few months (was forced to upgrade from Note 4 what suddenly died ) and I have noticed very irritating thing.
My phone is connecting on mobile data even they are turned off 2 - 3 times per month.
First few months I thought that I somehow turned them on, but my phone is always fingerprint locked so that is not possible. Last time it happened when I was walking in the forest and once while I was sleeping in the bus... So it really is NOT some kind of accidental user mistake.
Problem is that I dont need mobile data all the time so I have them switched off almost always and use them only when required for email and etc just few times. I have offline GPS navigation and everything I need for work always works offline. Data plan was never economical for me.
Anybody noticed this?
I am trying to diagnose this issue and turn that off because I am paying on connection basis.
It is really irritating that phone is doing something on its own and doesnt care what user set up... I really think that user app cannot enable mobile data on its own, so I suspect OS itself...
This suggestion isn't exactly what you're looking for, but, one I find helps somewhat.
Go to SETTINGS > APPS & on each app, go to MOBILE DATA & turn off background data.
Not only does it curb unwanted data usage, but, may also offer a marginal improvement in battery life.
As for the issue you're experiencing, I haven't had that issue.
The only thing that I can imagine is possibly you have an app that has the ability/permission to turn on data, even if you have data turned off in the phones settings.
I've never heard of it being triggered by external means either, definitely an unusual issue.
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KOLIOSIS said:
This suggestion isn't exactly what you're looking for, but, one I find helps somewhat.
Go to SETTINGS > APPS & on each app, go to MOBILE DATA & turn off background data.
Not only does it curb unwanted data usage, but, may also offer a marginal improvement in battery life.
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Thank you for inspiration . This may be good starting point.
I have checked mobile data usage statistics. Sad that you can see only one month statistics and not like last week or last 24 hours. This week I had 2 unwanted connections again (today again happened during trip when phone wasnt even in my hands).
In last month there are few apps that are system installed, I have disabled mobile data on background on each of them:
- Samsung Experience Service
- Samsung Push Service
- Media
I will see if it will make any changes and report here in another days.
I will check maybe on stackexchange if its even possible for user application to enable mobile data withouth users approval. Is far as I know, even system administrator apps like Cerbersu cant do that...
HeliumX10 said:
Thank you for inspiration . This may be good starting point.
I have checked mobile data usage statistics. Sad that you can see only one month statistics and not like last week or last 24 hours. This week I had 2 unwanted connections again (today again happened during trip when phone wasnt even in my hands).
In last month there are few apps that are system installed, I have disabled mobile data on background on each of them:
- Samsung Experience Service
- Samsung Push Service
- Media
I will see if it will make any changes and report here in another days.
I will check maybe on stackexchange if its even possible for user application to enable mobile data withouth users approval. Is far as I know, even system administrator apps like Cerbersu cant do that...
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Please keep us posted on your progress.
I'm not rooted, so, any system apps that I know that I won't use, I disable them, either via ADB commands, or, using the app Package Disabler Pro.
If you are rooted, I strongly recommend using SD Maid Pro. It's good not only for disabling apps, but, you can stop individual processes from starting up on boot on a per-app basis. (Among other several uses).
If you're interested & need links to either/all, let me know......
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I wonder if data is turned on either by samsung to maybe location service or remote lock service?
Im not sure but does Note 9 has "aGPS"? Doesn't it connect to cell towers for faster position lock?
Do you have any anti theft software installed what pinging server once a while?
darekz said:
I wonder if data is turned on either by samsung to maybe location service or remote lock service?
Im not sure but does Note 9 has "aGPS"? Doesn't it connect to cell towers for faster position lock?
Do you have any anti theft software installed what pinging server once a while?
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I have installed Cerberus as anti theft service. I doubt thats culprit of this because I had it installed previously on Note 2 and Note 4 fo about 6 years in total and never had this issue before. Maybe this is something different in new app version, but I am very suspicious about Samsung preinstalled stuff.
AGPS is of course present, like on any phone since around 2012. But you really dont need internet connection for using that. It should use coordinates from BTS mobile stations and those data should be obtained without internet. As far as I know...
Now its 2 days without data enabled issue. Few more days and we will know if disabling background data for those 3 services helped.
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What apn settings are you using for At&t? You had to manually put them in? I have the chinese version also on at&t and my data seems slow at times...
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Awesome write up as I am considering using this phone as my daily driver if it is that good as I'm not really a fan of Samsung these days. Cant decide to get the Chinese version or wait for the global version but reading this and you are using AT&T as well it seems the Chinese version might be the way to go anyway. You have any issues setting up the phone or just pop in sim and go?
For the google pay problem go to NFC setting and set to HCE Wallet
sc954rr said:
Awesome write up as I am considering using this phone as my daily driver if it is that good as I'm not really a fan of Samsung these days. Cant decide to get the Chinese version or wait for the global version but reading this and you are using AT&T as well it seems the Chinese version might be the way to go anyway. You have any issues setting up the phone or just pop in sim and go?
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Nope, literally just popped the sim in and boom. Service.
jirka607 said:
For the google pay problem go to NFC setting and set to HCE Wallet
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Thanks for the reply, is there anyway you can send me a link or a copy of those apn settings? When I find them online and enter them, I save them and then they just disappear... Thanks!
ajschill77 said:
Thanks for the reply, is there anyway you can send me a link or a copy of those apn settings? When I find them online and enter them, I save them and then they just disappear... Thanks!
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Such a nice thread man !
Which color u picked?
avetny said:
Such a nice thread man !
Which color u picked?
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I got the white due to the black looking like a finger print magnet.
Forgot to ask do you get volte and or calls over WiFi? Did you have manually enter the codes thru dialer to enable these options?
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Forgot to ask do you get volte and or calls over WiFi? Did you have manually enter the codes thru dialer to enable these options?
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I do get VoLTE but it's not HD Voice. I don't think wifi calling will work but I also haven't tried. From what I read last year about the mi 10 ultra CN model on ATT it didn't work.
I'd like to add. This phone is the the first time wireless charging has ever made sense to me. I got the 80w Xiaomi charger on Trading Shenzhen.
It's s complete game changer knowing you can just slap your phone down quickly and top off at anytime the same speed the wired charging would be.
What internet speeds you having with the device comparing with other global devices?
5G you got normally?
Jinthegodstyle said:
What internet speeds you having with the device comparing with other global devices?
5G you got normally?
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I don't have 5G in my area. But my LTE speeds are 50-150 mpbs with this device which is great.
Anybody managed to change the default launcher while keeping the gestures instead of on screen buttons?
boober78 said:
Anybody managed to change the default launcher while keeping the gestures instead of on screen buttons?
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That doesn't work on China nor global.
It's also bugged to hell on every other OEM including Samsung
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That doesn't work on China nor global.
It's also bugged to hell on every other OEM including Samsung
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Samsung bugged? I have t really noticed. You can customize Samsung as much as you want. Default launcher bothers me though. It's crappy we need to wait a week and all the personalization goes to drain as it's better to set up from scratch on xiaomi eu. And the missing notifications...
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Here is my first update a little under 24 hours later with the China Mi 11 Ultra on ATT in the US.
1. This is a freaking beast of a phone. Completely worth the hype.
2. The China ROM is extremely usable. So much so I am considering using it full time. However, I did go ahead and start the 165 hour or whatever bootloader unlock process to unlock and flash .EU or Global if needed.
3.Basically all google services work flawlessly. Google Assistant triggers via hot word, opens up whatever is needed, etc. YouTube, YouTube music, etc.
4. Service with ATT has been shockingly good despite not having LTE band 66. ATT has no 5G in my market so I cannot speak to that. However, LTE has been fast. I live in a more rural part of the US than many of you could imagine, and I travel through some extremely rural areas. (I am talking driving past a field of 400 cows). I pull 50-150 mpbs download speed everywhere I check. While driving through that mega rural area I was on a phone call the whole time, and the quality was fine and did not drop at all.
5. If you are new to MIUI you need to know a few things. Go into every app that you care about's settings. Enable auto start and turn off MiUI battery saver. Then go into the security app, settings button at the top right. Click boost speed. ADD EVERY APP you want notifications from, along with the steps I mentioned above. MIUI is like a splash of cold water on your face if you are not used to a Chinese OEM. However, once you LEARN to play by its rules, and tweak. Basically, all of your quirky problems can be resolved. Just give it some time. Google problems, look them up on reddit. Most likely there is a way to tweak MIUI to stop doing something annoying you don't want it to do (such as virus scanning new apps). Be prepared to spend a good bit of time de-chinafying your ROM. The western and eastern market have vastly different taste in how Android should function.
6. The camera is amazing. Took some amazing photos of my kids. The shutter isn't quite as fast as my Pixel 4 xl, so there is some chance of motion blur. HOWEVER, its NOWHERE near as bad as Samsung's shutter lag and motion blur on moving objects. I would say with my s21 ultra and every Samsung before 3/5 photos of kids were unusable due to motion blur. On the Mi 11 Ultra is maybe 1/8-9 photos is a bit blurry if my kids are really moving.
7. All my banking apps work without issue. Specifically American Express.
8. It charges BLAZING fast. I went from 1% to fully charged in under an hour. Although I did not time it. The battery lasts a much longer time than the Global Mi 11 I tried a month ago. I have 2.5 hours of SOT today and still have 70% battery.
Here are some issues I have run into within 24 hours. None of them are major, but I figured I would note them.
1. I cannot get visual voicemail to work. Either through the Google Dialer app on Beta (Which literally works on every single phone on ATT that I have tried with) nor the ATT visual voicemail app. I am not giving up on this one as I think I can still fix it.
2. Google Pay fired up without a hitch, let me add cards flawlessly. However, when I went to use it at the grocery store. The NFC would scan, the phone would say "leave network connected while paying"(or something similar) and then the terminal would say transaction failed. I did this a few times and it happened every time. I'm not ready to say it doesn't work but I was done holding up the line. I just paid with my physical card and moved on. I will update if I can fix it.
3. Bluetooth behavior to my car, while making calls with audio output has been extremely buggy. It doesn't seem to matter if I toggle it from Bluetooth, to speaker to earpiece. It's like the audio gets lost. It doesn't happen every time either. It's just a buggy mess when it does. I'm wondering if it's some kind of output bug with my car and my Bluetooth Samsung watch and the phone doesn't know where to output the audio. Will update this with more troubleshooting.
I will update this thread as I spend more time with the device. AMA.
EDIT: Also to save some headaches. If you have a Samsung Watch. You need to change settings on all three apps. The wear app, the "watch(insert model) plug in app" and the samsung accessory app. Turn autostart on for all of them. Turn off battery optimization. Then go into security > Settings > Speed boost. Add all three to your speed boost. If you don't, every time you clear your recent apps the watch will disconnect.
Edit 2: Gpay is now working thanks to a tip from user: jirka607. Switch default wallet to HCE.
Edit 3: I've given up on visual voicemail. Just set missed calls to forward to Google Voice where I can check voicemail "visually" via the app.
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Question for you. I bought the global version of the Mi 11 Ultra. Am waiting for delivery. I also have the Samsung S21 Ultra Exynos version. I have not been impressed with the camera of the s21 ultra especially indoor pics. A lot of noise in indoor pics. Do you think Mi 11 Ultra has a better camera?
Hey all,
In case you don't know what WhatsApp Web is, basically you can use an existing WhatsApp account via browser on your pc, same as you would from your phone. This requires the phone internet connection to be alive.
So I've got my Xiaomi Redmi Note 10S for about 2 weeks and I noticed that when I'm using WhatsApp Web and my phone screen is locked, I keep getting 'Phone not connected' notification. It goes away when I unlock the phone.
It happens quite randomly though, not always, I can't seem to determine any regularity. This did not happen on my previous phone, I also tried with 2 different laptops and different networks and it still occurs. I've also disabled all battery saving possible, WhatsApp set up to no restrictions in the background.
Any idea on what else I can do to fix it?
kurdemol94 said:
Hey all,
In case you don't know what WhatsApp Web is, basically you can use an existing WhatsApp account via browser on your pc, same as you would from your phone. This requires the phone internet connection to be alive.
So I've got my Xiaomi Redmi Note 10S for about 2 weeks and I noticed that when I'm using WhatsApp Web and my phone screen is locked, I keep getting 'Phone not connected' notification. It goes away when I unlock the phone.
It happens quite randomly though, not always, I can't seem to determine any regularity. This did not happen on my previous phone, I also tried with 2 different laptops and different networks and it still occurs. I've also disabled all battery saving possible, WhatsApp set up to no restrictions in the background.
Any idea on what else I can do to fix it?
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Hay, you might want to try this. Enable Developer mode-> disable miui optimization (its at the bottom)
pravin_pran said:
Hay, you might want to try this. Enable Developer mode-> disable miui optimization (its at the bottom)
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thanks for the suggestion, I had it disabled already and it wasn't helping. In the end I gave up the vpn, I had it only for ad blocking and I switched to using adguard dns
For anyone finding this thread in the future - the vpn I was using was Blokada, there are many reports in the web about miui 12 killing the background process despite disabling all optimizations.
There's a response from Blokada team on reddit that suggest some other workarounds but I haven't tried them and can't confirm if they work
https://www.reddit.com/r/blokada/comments/hri0sc
exclude from battery optimization -> check
enable Keep alive -> check
pin in recents
activate Blokada through QuickSettingsTile
enable Always-on-VPN for Blokada
set up a Widget for Blokada
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First sorry for my english, I'm using a translator. Well, my cell phone is a Poco M3 Pro 5g with 64gb of storage, but some time ago I noticed that in some applications it only shows 48gb, also the same thing when I connect it to the pc,MiuiBetachina"
Only 48GB is available for use, rest is reserved for system that's why it's not shown in there. There is no problem, it's normal.
sajalkmr said:
Only 48GB is available for use, rest is reserved for system that's why it's not shown in there. There is no problem, it's normal.
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now I understand, thank you very much
Hi everyone,
so my issue is simple, yet I don't know what to actually do.
After a recent update via Google Play of some applications (i think that's the main problem), my draw pattern (a correct one) is not recognized by the phone anymore. Whatever I do, my Lock Screen doesn't recognize my correct pattern and lock itself from 10 seconds to 5 minutes depending on how many times I've tried to open it. Even my fingerprint is not recognized (altough as far as I remember, it never is when my phone boots for the 1st time, as pattern must be validated first).
My phone becomes unusable, as it can't unlock. The only 2 options I have are "Emergency call" or "Forgotten password". The latter option just says I have to Wipe Data Format which is not an option for me, as I have important things on my phone.
What solution could I apply, so I can unlock my phone WITHOUT having to delete my data :/
Important to note:
- It's not a problem from screen protector (I've removed it..)
- Generally I was using the option for invisible draw pattern, thus no one sees what I draw as extra protection (maybe it could be part of the problem now after some updates of random apps).. but obviously is working
- My SIM code is still accepted and it's fine, so not everything was Reset for whatever reason, as it's not 0000..
- My phone is updated to the absolute latest version available via OTA and nothing else was added or done
- I didn't use 3rd party Lock Screen other than the one included with the Xiaomi 11T Pro from the system
- I was using Bitdefender (which was not updated when the problem occured), which has the option to randomize pin for applications only (not pattern)
- I've also made the battery drop and the phone to turn-off and left it like that for 2 days to see if it will somehow reset/remember my pattern, but nothing..
I read so many guides online from Google and all seem are promoting some sketchy software which I dont want to risk with unless it's 100%.
Model: Xiaomi 11T Pro 5G 256GB 8GB RAM with Miui 14 (European version)
Thank you Xiaomi friends!
Weird that updates on the playstore have created this problem.
Not much to do, security issue.
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Weird that updates on the playstore have created this problem.
Not much to do, security issue.
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Well, I see no other reason for this to happen. Doubt someone hacked me, altough at that time I was using Public wifi in a hotel. It can't be Bitdefender as well I think to scramble my pattern and I've remotely removed it. I've read that maybe if in my pocket the wrong pattern was entered by accident many times, that it will reset, but it makes no sense to me. I'm using latest versions of MIUI and standard apps (not using any unknown ones), everything is from Play Store, as I really can't imagine what issue could be, but for sure I would like to enter without deleting my data :/
Never seen or had this problem and it may be Bitdefender that caused this problem.
No solution without deleting your data.
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Never seen or had this problem and it may be Bitdefender that caused this problem.
No solution without deleting your data.
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I was thinking the same, but remembered that LockScreen for Bitdefender was disabled way before that. It was not working for the official Xiaomi LockScreen to scramble anything (especially pattern) as I choose which apps to lock and it was not working on it. It does it only for applications which I've selected and with pin numbers :/ Also I've remotely removed the app support via their Center which means that even if that was the problem (for some unknown reason turned ON lets say), it should not be valid now. Also it was not updated via the last moment I had it working , so for sure it's not this the problem unless someone hacked Bitdefender via my profile, which should be valid also for my 2nd Xiaomi phone, but there I have no problem and it seems very unrealistic scenario for me :/ Also if it was true, they can't change my pattern or pin via website. Problem is somewhere else, as I remember, most were some Google and Xiaomi apps that got updated which I even usually don't use like Auto. I really look for some way to unlock it or somehow make my phone "remember" the correct invisible pattern :/ of course to delete everything would be most easy but that should be last last resort for me :/
Try here to see if the password or account is still the same and works.
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Try here to see if the password or account is still the same and works.
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I didn't register Xiaomi Account when I took my phone, neither it has such, I don't have Xiaomi Cloud or account, I just have Google account in order to use Google Play :/
Is your bootloader unlocked? If yes, try boot a twrp a12/a13 for 11t pro, see if you can retrieve your data using that.
If you're not unlocked, wipe/format data is your only option. Either from recovery or your google account
x3r0.13urn said:
Is your bootloader unlocked? If yes, try boot a twrp a12/a13 for 11t pro, see if you can retrieve your data using that.
If you're not unlocked, wipe/format data is your only option. Either from recovery or your google account
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As far as I know it's not unlocked/rooted or anything as it's brand new phone I bought in November. So in such case, whatever I do or read from sketchy apps/websites/videos, I should not trust and it's 100% impossible to unlock it or recover my data in any way? In general I can open the notification to turn Wifi on/off, etc, but I can't view messages for example, so just very basic things
Hackera93 said:
I didn't register Xiaomi Account when I took my phone, neither it has such, I don't have Xiaomi Cloud or account, I just have Google account in order to use Google Play :/
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Interest to have a Xiaomi account:
Ability to locate the phone and erase data in case of theft or loss.
Cloud Backup:
Sms, Calls, Mms, apps, password, bluetooth, etc..
NOSS8 said:
Interest to have a Xiaomi account:
Ability to locate the phone and erase data in case of theft or loss.
Cloud Backup:
Sms, Calls, Mms, apps, password, bluetooth, etc..
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I am privacy concerned about Xiaomi in general, so that's why I try to minimize services used by it. I have the ability to locate and erase data with BitDefender and Google as well, but that's not an issue at the moment. I can do it, but won't do me any favor. Also Xiaomi Cloud is the last place probably someone would want his private information stored from the hundreds available free alternatives, also is limited to just 2 GB as far as I remember by before, which indeed is useful for SMS, but nothing else. I dont see a reason to use it , neither why would my phone do unnatural things. I worry that this issue will repeat, so yes, backup is always worth to have, but I couldn't imagine I will need it so soon and that it will be for such unlogical reason which none of us seem to know what's the problem which really frustrates me and makes me rethink in general the use of Xiaomi, as such random events happening should be a red flag
Hackera93 said:
Hi everyone,
so my issue is simple, yet I don't know what to actually do.
After a recent update via Google Play of some applications (i think that's the main problem), my draw pattern (a correct one) is not recognized by the phone anymore. Whatever I do, my Lock Screen doesn't recognize my correct pattern and lock itself from 10 seconds to 5 minutes depending on how many times I've tried to open it. Even my fingerprint is not recognized (altough as far as I remember, it never is when my phone boots for the 1st time, as pattern must be validated first).
My phone becomes unusable, as it can't unlock. The only 2 options I have are "Emergency call" or "Forgotten password". The latter option just says I have to Wipe Data Format which is not an option for me, as I have important things on my phone.
What solution could I apply, so I can unlock my phone WITHOUT having to delete my data :/
Important to note:
- It's not a problem from screen protector (I've removed it..)
- Generally I was using the option for invisible draw pattern, thus no one sees what I draw as extra protection (maybe it could be part of the problem now after some updates of random apps).. but obviously is working
- My SIM code is still accepted and it's fine, so not everything was Reset for whatever reason, as it's not 0000..
- My phone is updated to the absolute latest version available via OTA and nothing else was added or done
- I didn't use 3rd party Lock Screen other than the one included with the Xiaomi 11T Pro from the system
- I was using Bitdefender (which was not updated when the problem occured), which has the option to randomize pin for applications only (not pattern)
- I've also made the battery drop and the phone to turn-off and left it like that for 2 days to see if it will somehow reset/remember my pattern, but nothing..
I read so many guides online from Google and all seem are promoting some sketchy software which I dont want to risk with unless it's 100%.
Model: Xiaomi 11T Pro 5G 256GB 8GB RAM with Miui 14 (European version)
Thank you Xiaomi friends!
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Weird!! It even happened to me today, all of sudden my daily unlock pattern isn't working. Even I need the data in it
prithvi9679 said:
Weird!! It even happened to me today, all of sudden my daily unlock pattern isn't working. Even I need the data in it
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Hey, also on 11T Pro? And after update?? Do you remember last things that happened before it "forgot" the pattern? And was it also the invisible type of it? Tell more details, maybe we can get some common points and maybe some solution could be found hopefully :/
Yes on Xiaomi 11T Pro, received miui 14 a week ago. It just randomly happened yesterday as my fingerprint is not detected it asked me to draw the pattern. When I drew it doesn't allow me into phone even though the pattern is correct. For me the pattern is VISIBLE.
did you activate usb debugging? and at least once connected with your pc?
then you can get your files with XIAOMIADBFASTBOOTTOOLS.jar
that's the only option you have left before deleting everything on your phone.
ricos1995 said:
did you activate usb debugging? and at least once connected with your pc?
then you can get your files with XIAOMIADBFASTBOOTTOOLS.jar
that's the only option you have left before deleting everything on your phone.
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Indeed, it is necessary to have activated the USB debugging and to have already used this program so that the authorization is granted.
Anyway, nothing about this program will remove security or be able to recover data.
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Indeed, it is necessary to have activated the USB debugging and to have already used this program so that the authorization is granted.
Anyway, nothing about this program will remove security or be able to recover data.
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yes it can "recover data" but not reset or change the passcode
ricos1995 said:
yes it can "recover data" but not reset or change the passcode
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Nope, there is no such option and even if it existed, this data is encrypted.
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Nope, there is no such option and even if it existed, this data is encrypted.
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forgot it was encrypted
Guys, do you think it's worth to wait for some "miracle" to happen? It seems it's some bug that happens to other people too and hopefully Xiaomi takes action. Maybe if I can get update in background, might get fixed without the need to Wipe data?
PS: I did use before USB Debugging, but from the Settings. I dont know how to turn it remotely from the computer. I also have installed ADB, but I'm not sure how to debug it as it doesn't detect my phone now :/ The XIAOMIADBFASTBOOTTOOLS.jar I havent used.