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Why AT&T users should boycott this device

1. The number one smartphone maker, Samsung, provides AT&T users with the ability to flash custom roms. Not HTC. And the VIVID is locked does tight on AT&T.
2. "There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC, May 26, 2011 - http://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10150307320018084
3. #2 was a boldfaced LIE on the part of Peter Chou, CEO of HTC. Since then, HTC has selectively unlocked bootloaders - blaming carriers when their competitors are providing devices that are pretty much wide open. This same device on another carrier is unlockable. That promise has clearly been broken.
4. The common denominator is HTC, not AT&T. Either HTC is gutless or lying, either way, it's THEIR devices that are not unlocked and not the #1 Android supplier.
Don't buy these devices if you want a typical Android experience where you have a choice of firmwares to run. Even if you chose to stay stock with an unlockable bootloader, that choice would be YOURS. Do you really want to give it up?
Join me in boycotting this device. If you already bought one, bring it back to AT&T (You can still choose something else) and tell them WHY.
Personally, I am done buying ANY HTC devices until this policy changes. This BS is getting OLD.

Hey attn1, thats not the only reason I would bring it back. I'm having horrible data connections if any at all.
I didnt like the sgs2, so would you recommend the motorola atrix 2?

I cannot believe I traded my Galaxy S2 for this phone.

SysAdmNj said:
Hey attn1, thats not the only reason I would bring it back. I'm having horrible data connections if any at all.
I didnt like the sgs2, so would you recommend the motorola atrix 2?
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Right now, I think only Samsung and LG are getting it right.

CEaton said:
I cannot believe I traded my Galaxy S2 for this phone.
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attn1 said:
Right now, I think only Samsung and LG are getting it right.
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I would try the samsung galaxy skyrocket but they are having the same lte data connection issues for non lte areas apparently.

attn1 said:
1. The number one smartphone maker, Samsung, provides AT&T users with the ability to flash custom roms. Not HTC. And the VIVID is locked does tight on AT&T.
2. "There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC, May 26, 2011 - http://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10150307320018084
3. #2 was a boldfaced LIE on the part of Peter Chou, CEO of HTC. Since then, HTC has selectively unlocked bootloaders - blaming carriers when their competitors are providing devices that are pretty much wide open. This same device on another carrier is unlockable. That promise has clearly been broken.
4. The common denominator is HTC, not AT&T. Either HTC is gutless or lying, either way, it's THEIR devices that are not unlocked and not the #1 Android supplier.
Don't buy these devices if you want a typical Android experience where you have a choice of firmwares to run. Even if you chose to stay stock with an unlockable bootloader, that choice would be YOURS. Do you really want to give it up?
Join me in boycotting this device. If you already bought one, bring it back to AT&T (You can still choose something else) and tell them WHY.
Personally, I am done buying ANY HTC devices until this policy changes. This BS is getting OLD.
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What??? Why is the HTC Raider's bootloader unlockable on the htcdev site then?
edit: You're a smart guy and I'm sure you can understand the inherent risks of allowing an unlocked bootloader and custom roms (would you download a version of Windows from some torrent site and just trust it). That said HTC is merely making you accept responsibility if you do unlock that bootloader. It seems to me as if ATT is the one not allowing that since The HTC Holiday on Rogers (Raider) is able to be unlocked via their tool, but ATT's (Vivid) isn't.

I will join you in this boycott.
I currently have an unlocked i9100 I'm using, and I was SERIOUSLY considering picking up one of these because a) I want to get on an unlimited LTE plan asap as I assume ATT being the douche-nozzles they are will surely take it away soon and b) for use as an LTE modem essentially since I have such a hard time getting data service in downtown chicago. Not anymore! (unfortunately, I also can't justify buying the skyrocket when I already have the gsII, would have been fun to have something different to play with)
I agree, this bootloader locking is BS. Samsung has phones on every carrier, none of them with locked bootloaders. Even my mom's Charge on Verizon (gag) is unlocked.

Well crap! This isn't what I'd like to have seen from you attn1, but at the same time, I'm sure you're tired of holding ppl's hand to try and root/s-off their phones w/your tool.
Le sigh, I was lookin forward to this and hopefully using another fine piece of attn1 software.

rquinn19 said:
What??? Why is the HTC Raider's bootloader unlockable on the htcdev site then?
edit: You're a smart guy and I'm sure you can understand the inherent risks of allowing an unlocked bootloader and custom roms (would you download a version of Windows from some torrent site and just trust it). That said HTC is merely making you accept responsibility if you do unlock that bootloader. It seems to me as if ATT is the one not allowing that since The HTC Holiday on Rogers (Raider) is able to be unlocked via their tool, but ATT's (Vivid) isn't.
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No, Samsung and LG devices are open on AT&T. HTC and Motorola are not. There is no option "to accept responsibility" - which would be fine by me. Please go back and re-read the OP. HTC is not delivering what they can - or what they promised.
SysAdmNj said:
I would try the samsung galaxy skyrocket but they are having the same lte data connection issues for non lte areas apparently.
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I would not use LTE until it is more fully deployed anyway.

SysAdmNj said:
I would try the samsung galaxy skyrocket but they are having the same lte data connection issues for non lte areas apparently.
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I'm not sure what connection issues you are referring to. This is the first I've heard anyone mention that.
I live in an LTE area but work in an HSPA area. No connection issues anywhere, regardless of LTE or not.
I have the SkyRocket though.

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No, Samsung and LG devices are open on AT&T. HTC and Motorola are not. There is no option "to accept responsibility" - which would be fine by me. Please go back and re-read the OP. HTC is not delivering what they can - or what they promised.
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I read your post. I understand what you're saying. Apparently you don't understand what I'm saying. I know what HTC promised and realize they haven't lived up to that promise. They are offering a means to unlocking it though. Carriers have to agree though and you have to accept some agreement as well.
HTC's Bootloader Unlock Site
This site works for the Raider, not for our Vivid. Gives a CID (carrier) error.

rquinn19 said:
I read your post. I understand what you're saying. Apparently you don't understand what I'm saying. I know what HTC promised and realize they haven't lived up to that promise. They are offering a means to unlocking it though. Carriers have to agree though and you have to accept some agreement as well.
HTC's Bootloader Unlock Site
This site works for the Raider, not for our Vivid. Gives a CID (carrier) error.
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No, carriers do NOT have to agree, as evidenced by current offerings from Samsung, LG and Sony. HTC is using carriers as a excuse to do what they want anyway. Their competition is not. Regardless of who's issue it is, not buying such a device is the best course of action, and if sales are down significantly, will drive change. Even if it doesn't, anyone lurking around on XDA developers would be infinitely better off with a more open device.

I agree somewhat with you, however things to keep in mind.
1. Accessing the bootloader voids the warranty, so why should AT&T care?
2. Have you contacted HTC as of yet? I have and they said Bootloader shouldn't be locked and if it is ALL devices get an unlock code. I tried to Unlock, and given the device launched on Sunday I am not surprised.
3. HTC is not the only one locking bootloaders, Motorola is FAR WORSE.
Personally I like the phone. I do place custom roms on my devices. As a previous owner of the Droid X and Atrix, I have experienced locked bootloaders.
This phone for me is better than the SGS2. Quirks of the SGS2 Rom with Touch Wiz and not a fully functioning CM yet it wasn't good.

I'l just start off by saying I am not a developer and don't know much about bootloaders and such.. going from a Captivate to the Vivid, I already see a difference in support of development. Is it really this bad?
I'm loving the Vivid as it is, and I HATE stock ROMs, all of them. I just hope that things may change for current Vivid owners.. after all, it's only been two days.

I'm really disappointed with what I'm reading. The Vivid is my first Android device that I've purchased on AT&T, and so far it seems like a great phone. But if devs are saying the device should be boycotted, that doesn't seem like a good sign for future development support.

I don't see what's bad about this device. I'm still going to get this device regardless of what a Dev says .
Edit: And this phone JUST CAME OUT. I do not expect anything within the first week or two. But if it remains like this, i may have to jump on this boycott with you. And i sure as hell don't want to buy another Samsung device
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I had a Vibrant, and when I switched to AT&T, the Infuse was the only good phone on AT&T (I mainly did not want to give up SAMOLED).
I do not want to get another samsung phone, but if I have to get the skyrocket because of HTC's lies, I will.
Sent from my phone. :3

trell959 said:
I don't see what's bad about this device. I'm still going to get this device regardless of what a Dev says .
Edit: And this phone JUST CAME OUT. I do not expect anything within the first week or two. But if it remains like this, i may have to jump on this boycott with you. And i sure as hell don't want to buy another Samsung device
Sent from my Desire HD using xda premium
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Yeah. I mean so what if they may have been hypocritical in promising things they have yet to follow up on. At least give it some time. Something is better than nothing.

Ok for 1 I know for a FACT not ALL LG Devices have Unlocked bootloader's considering I Have one so don't go saying that unless you can 100% back that up. Second, I am more than willing to bet AT&T forced HTC to lock the bootloader and I would not be in the least suprised that the new Samsung would be locked down as well considering they are the 1st LTE Devices to be available on AT&T. Regardless though like people said this thing has only been out for less than a freaking week. I am also willing to bet given a month or so HTC will have an Unlock for this device regardless as to what AT&T wants to do.

Big Dawg 23 said:
1. Accessing the bootloader voids the warranty, so why should AT&T care?
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Not true - it may or may not void the warranty, depending on the nature of the problem. That gray area is what HTC fears will cost money. I didn't say AT&T would care about warranty. I said HTC would.
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Ok for 1 I know for a FACT not ALL LG Devices have Unlocked bootloader's considering I Have one so don't go saying that unless you can 100% back that up. Second, I am more than willing to bet AT&T forced HTC to lock the bootloader and I would not be in the least suprised that the new Samsung would be locked down as well considering they are the 1st LTE Devices to be available on AT&T. Regardless though like people said this thing has only been out for less than a freaking week. I am also willing to bet given a month or so HTC will have an Unlock for this device regardless as to what AT&T wants to do.
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Recent phones from LG like the Thrill and the 2GS have been unlockable.
All the recent Samsungs are easily unlockable.
HTC already has an unlock for this device - (on Rogers) and excluded AT&T - one of their largest markets.

Bounty: Unlock the P880G (Canadian 4X)

I'd really like to see the P880G get an unlocked bootloader like every other 4X variant in the world has. But since I don't have enough time and technical expertise, I'm going to try setting up a bounty for someone who may be able to do it instead. Although I expect I'll be the only one willing to contribute.
LG has pretty much admitted they'll never release another update for the P880G (anyone who's gotten a reply from them gets either "we have no plans to release an update" or "there is currently no info on future updates"). So it looks like a solution will have to be hacked. It's unfortunate that Kholk's unlocking efforts ended once V20a was released.
So if you would be willing to chip in, or have info on who might be willing to work on this or how to find someone, please post here.

I hate to be a negative nelly about this but there are a number of complicating factors.
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I'd really like to see the P880G get an unlocked bootloader like every other 4X variant in the world has.
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First off, there *are* no other 4X variants. The roms have been localized to carriers, for sure, but our P880g is the only 4X that's warranted a different model number. Is the hardware actually different? We don't know. It might be. This is the heart of a greater issue.
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It's unfortunate that Kholk's unlocking efforts ended once V20a was released.
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It's my understanding that Kholk did what he could and came to the conclusion that there were no exploitable flaws--before the release of LG's bootloader unlock. That ended up not being a huge deal because V20a was around the corner and so most users got the unlock they wanted anyways.
Given Kholk's experience with the P880 bootloader, I think trying to directly unlock the P880g bootloader is a fool's errand. That's not to say there isn't hope. What currently prevents us from installing V20a (or any other P880 rom) is a model check. If the model on the phone can be altered/spoofed, then it may be possible to install the unlockable bootloader/ROM. HOWEVER there is no guarantee that those ROMs would actually work on the P880g. So even if you get an unlocked bootloader, you may just end up with a phone that doesn't work.
Now, that's an empirical question. In a best case scenario, the hardware is actually identical and the radio/modems are interchangable and work just fine on 1700 without any manual tweaking. In a worst case scenario, you unlock your P880g and brick it with the first non-P880g rom you try to install.
I've resigned myself to the idea that my P880g will never receive an upgrade. I did the research on the 4X HD and didn't notice that our model had a different model number--else I wouldn't have bought it, because I saw how much of a difference flashing made in the lifecycle of my previous phones. That said I'm not too pissed, because I feel our stock ROM's pretty usable. In the long run, I may stick to Nexus devices in the future, despite their individual shortcomings.
Improbable as it is, I'd pitch in $30 for an upgrade path from stock P880g to a (working) cyanogenmod/custom ROM.

good luck. i think however p880g's bootloader with ICS is non-unlockable, unfortunately. good luck either way, hope something good comes from this for canadian users :good:

nemesishaven said:
First off, there *are* no other 4X variants. The roms have been localized to carriers, for sure, but our P880g is the only 4X that's warranted a different model number.
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You're right, bad wording on my point. There were a number of regions that received an update that didn't seem to comply with the unlocking, but the community came together to clear those up.
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Given Kholk's experience with the P880 bootloader, I think trying to directly unlock the P880g bootloader is a fool's errand. That's not to say there isn't hope. What currently prevents us from installing V20a (or any other P880 rom) is a model check. If the model on the phone can be altered/spoofed, then it may be possible to install the unlockable bootloader/ROM. HOWEVER there is no guarantee that those ROMs would actually work on the P880g. So even if you get an unlocked bootloader, you may just end up with a phone that doesn't work.
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Well, at this point I'm open to paying someone to try. Heck, I'll do it to my own 4X, if it bricks I'll be forced to get a more reliable phone anyway.
As for the bounty, I figured I'd start at $50 myself. I'm almost more interested in sticking it to LG Canada than getting Jellybean on my phone.

So in total, you guys are willing to pay 80$ for an unlock.

Camawn said:
So in total, you guys are willing to pay 80$ for an unlock.
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Hey, obviously this never took off. Ultimately I spent $200 on a used Nexus 4, and it was worth far more than an unlocked Optimus 4X. I'm done with that phone forever.

jphillip said:
Hey, obviously this never took off. Ultimately I spent $200 on a used Nexus 4, and it was worth far more than an unlocked Optimus 4X. I'm done with that phone forever.
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Damn man. This is pissing me off. I wish this would take off.

[PETITION] [SAMSUNG] Unlocking the bootloader on the SM-j327T & SM-J327T1

Attention samsung we know you spy on us here on xda. We have a major complaint and wish for you to allow our devices to have it's bootloader unlocked. I have checked your company's code in sboot.bin and it has this code in it: "get_oem_unlock_val" and theres hidden jpg files in param.bin (you can open the file as an archive in 7 zip) It has a file named unlock_L.jpg which will show an unlock icon and the word custom. Why would you waste time putting this in the bootloader if you wasn't intending to let us (your customers) use it. We demand an update to allow us to unlock the bootloader. We will not set here and watch our rights as consumers to use our device as we choose be thrown out the window. There's a reason us android fans hate IOS and iphones and that is because it is all proprietary bull crap and we want freedom. Here is the link to a petition i made weeks ago to samsung on change.org: https://www.change.org/p/samsung-unlock-the-bootloader-on-the-j3-prime?recruiter=69539793&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition&utm_content=nafta_copylink_shortlink_1%3Acontrol
Update: Samsung has not responded to our demands. and they have decided to randomly stop making the android oreo update. I was told by samsung themselves that the j3 prime from metropcs and tmobile will get android oreo. I feel lied to. Everyone should keep contacting the customer care center of your carrier and samsung both. We should not rest until our demands are met. I refuse to let my efforts of over a year trying to get root go out the window.

Remember this quote: "those who sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither."

Signed and shared

I have added a poll to the thread so everyone can vote. this is another way to show samsung how much we care.

watch this samsung!: https://youtu.be/Q07uesnjuPg & https://youtu.be/gpVocvREboo

Signed and shared with all 6 Facebook accounts

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singed and share

I made a post in the offical samsung forums: [Url deleted since post was deleted on samsungs site.]

No matter how much you beg or how many people sign this petition I can pretty much guarantee Samsung will not respond.
The simple fact is, people wanting root or an unlocked bootloader are a minority as far as Samsung are concerned.
The majority of people who use bootloader locked devices are unaware of what root even is or a locked bootloader.
Unfortunately those who require Admin access to their devices are insignificant in the big picture.

ashyx said:
No matter how much you beg or how many people sign this petition I can pretty much guarantee Samsung will not respond.
The simple fact is, people wanting root or an unlocked bootloader are a minority as far as Samsung are concerned.
The majority of people who use bootloader locked devices are unaware of what root even is or a locked bootloader.
Unfortunately those who require Admin access to their devices are insignificant in the big picture.
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You do have a good point. I am guessing samsung is just looking at the needs of the many vs the needs of the few but at this point this is our only option unless someone finds an exploit which could take a year or more to find. If i could get a bootloader unlocked device lg is the way to go but it will be years before i get a new device.

thepcwiz101 said:
You do have a good point. I am guessing samsung is just looking at the needs of the many vs the needs of the few but at this point this is our only option unless someone finds an exploit which could take a year or more to find. If i could get a bootloader unlocked device lg is the way to go but it will be years before i get a new device.
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Me too, I'm totally out of luck at this point

ashyx said:
No matter how much you beg or how many people sign this petition I can pretty much guarantee Samsung will not respond.
The simple fact is, people wanting root or an unlocked bootloader are a minority as far as Samsung are concerned.
The majority of people who use bootloader locked devices are unaware of what root even is or a locked bootloader.
Unfortunately those who require Admin access to their devices are insignificant in the big picture.
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I found a solution to our locked bootloader issue. it will require ordering from samsungs website. The model of the unlocked variant of the j3 prime is: SM-J327U it is has oem unlock in developer options, it is unlocked for all carriers, and the bootloader is unlocked completely. looks like twrp can be built for this device. and also i confirm that the device is rooted with the j327t cf autoroot. another guy in another thread has stated he has root.

Attention samsung i have found that you are in violation of federal law which allows us consumers to root or flash a custom rom or recovery. Also you cannot void warranty for rooting or flashing custom firmware according to an article i read made in 2016. On behalf of the community we demand our bootloaders to be able to be unlocked. We are getting sick of relying on exploits which can be really bad to use as hackers use it to get control of our phones. All phones from 2017 onward need to be unlocked regardless of carrier. We do not live in north korea so stop treating us like we are slaves!!!

thepcwiz101 said:
Attention samsung i have found that you are in violation of federal law which allows us consumers to root or flash a custom rom or recovery. Also you cannot void warranty for rooting or flashing custom firmware according to an article i read made in 2016. On behalf of the community we demand our bootloaders to be able to be unlocked. We are getting sick of relying on exploits which can be really bad to use as hackers use it to get control of our phones. All phones from 2017 onward need to be unlocked regardless of carrier. We do not live in north korea so stop treating us like we are slaves!!!
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Not trying to defend anyone, but Samsung has it's reasons for this. They are trying to protect subsidy. So say for example Samsung makes different 737 models to different carriers such as T-mobile or ATT. T-mobile or ATT want the customers to be using their plan. If the phone's could be unlocked, you could simply buy the cheapest model and use it for any carrier. As for unlocking the bootloader or rooting, any android phone with Android 7.0 or higher is difficult to root. All the one click root methods i've tried such as Kingroot for multiple different phones such as Samsung, ZTE, LG.. all failed. All we can do is wait for a master hacker to find a work around.

mohhaxs said:
Not trying to defend anyone, but Samsung has it's reasons for this. They are trying to protect subsidy. So say for example Samsung makes different 737 models to different carriers such as T-mobile or ATT. T-mobile or ATT want the customers to be using their plan. If the phone's could be unlocked, you could simply buy the cheapest model and use it for any carrier. As for unlocking the bootloader or rooting, any android phone with Android 7.0 or higher is difficult to root. All the one click root methods i've tried such as Kingroot for multiple different phones such as Samsung, ZTE, LG.. all failed. All we can do is wait for a master hacker to find a work around.
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Well that is a valid reason. But i think people should check this out: https://www.xda-developers.com/bootloader-unlock-root-pixel-2-skipsoft-toolkit/

thepcwiz101 said:
Well that is a valid reason. But i think people should check this out: https://www.xda-developers.com/bootloader-unlock-root-pixel-2-skipsoft-toolkit/
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Not sure what angle your aiming at, but it won't have any use for this device?

mohhaxs said:
Not trying to defend anyone, but Samsung has it's reasons for this. They are trying to protect subsidy. So say for example Samsung makes different 737 models to different carriers such as T-mobile or ATT. T-mobile or ATT want the customers to be using their plan. If the phone's could be unlocked, you could simply buy the cheapest model and use it for any carrier. As for unlocking the bootloader or rooting, any android phone with Android 7.0 or higher is difficult to root. All the one click root methods i've tried such as Kingroot for multiple different phones such as Samsung, ZTE, LG.. all failed. All we can do is wait for a master hacker to find a work around.
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I think they should allow it, and only make one model of each phone!

Relyt2012 said:
I think they should allow it, and only make one model of each phone!
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Well that would require all cell phone companies to program the device for their market when it is shipped to the company which is inefficient. Cell phone companies request a device catered to how their network works. If you have verizon and you try to get a phone with a GSM radio to work on it you will be wasting time because it wont work. Maybe if all companies switch to cdma or gsm it will be practical to make one model for all carriers.

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Well that would require all cell phone companies to program the device for their market when it is shipped to the company which is inefficient. Cell phone companies request a device catered to how their network works. If you have verizon and you try to get a phone with a GSM radio to work on it you will be wasting time because it wont work. Maybe if all companies switch to cdma or gsm it will be practical to make one model for all carriers.
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That's untrue of the S7 edge, same modems and all as unlocked variant!!

SM-J327T & SM-J327T1 forgotten by Samsung

Samsung has screwed us over yet again. First they patch the only root method (even though unstable as it was) and Second they cancel the oreo update while releasing oreo for the j7 prime. Samsung could have atleast unlocked the bootloader and allowed developers from xda to create a rom that would be even better than samsung's own rom but sadly nope this was too much to ask. I am disappointed having to announce this and i am disappointed in you samsung. Both for expecting android oreo to come to this device and for spending countless late nights trying to root this device. To me this is the greatest disrespect and i am certain that if i buy a device i own it and should be able to do what i want with it. Locking a bootloader is basically infringing on everyone's liberty and because of this i call for anyone to call for action and even boycott samsung if you have to. This also means keeping your current phone as long as possible and buying from carriers you support (ones that leave the bootloader unlocked) if you need to. This is simply inexcusable for samsung and sad to say it but samsung has lost my support.
Update: US variant of the J327U received oreo and this may re-open the possibility of oreo for the tmobile and metropcs variant in the future.

How many time have to repeat that this wasnt samsung fault, its carrier, if you want an unlock bootlooder try get another company phone which is same price, or grind up your price for another samsung device.

qvnsq said:
How many time have to repeat that this wasnt samsung fault, its carrier, if you want an unlock bootlooder try get another company phone which is same price, or grind up your price for another samsung device.
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Pretty sure i can disprove that by stating that other devices on metro and tmobile that are newer like the lg aristo and lg aristo 2 have the ability to unlock their bootloader and they even have root and twrp recovery. But you tell me the carrier would only request samsung to lock their bootloader and not lg or any other? I call bs.

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Pretty sure i can disprove that by stating that other devices on metro and tmobile that are newer like the lg aristo and lg aristo 2 have the ability to unlock their bootloader and they even have root and twrp recovery. But you tell me the carrier would only request samsung to lock their bootloader and not lg or any other? I call bs.
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This is a bussiness that how they do, they are on market ranking, they have more then its product, if lg wasnt lock their bootlader mean they need more tech/or peoples like you and us here to use the phone more, i did mentioned about price range for its product, if you spend ( grind up ) your price a little then u will have an unlocked bootlader or even easy way to unlock it, and this is low price and low end phone, what are you expect, i mean its carrier because they need to either request samsung for an unlock product before they deal with, and yet since samsung already reach their point, they wont careless about it, lg is on other point, since you are an developer or patcher/cracker or whatever, you should have known by compared it to samsung s/s2. Its just my 2cents anyway, ofc im frusted too since its locked, i do have an lg artiso and artiso 2 with unlocked bootloader. Also i did have spended and chase on international version on samsung for so long, i know how it work.

Just bought a samsung galaxy s10 SM-G973U model, anything for it here?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/164057105750
Just bought this today but now i see there ain't much for this model here, all i see is for the SM-G973F model but can the SM-G973U be rooted and use the roms for the G973F?

Replicatorz said:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/164057105750
Just bought this today but now i see there ain't much for this model here, all i see is for the SM-G973F model but can the SM-G973U be rooted and use the roms for the G973F?
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Nope, you cannot cross firmwares. Your phone is also bootloader locked with no way to unlock it. There's no root method yet either and probably won't be. I have the G975U (U.S. Galaxy S10+), so I am in the same boat as far as root and bootloader goes.

StoneyJSG said:
Nope, you cannot cross firmwares. Your phone is also bootloader locked with no way to unlock it. There's no root method yet either and probably won't be. I have the G975U (U.S. Galaxy S10+), so I am in the same boat as far as root and bootloader goes.
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I should of checked the model number to see what was available for it before i bought it but i guess i will have to deal unless by chance something is done about it which won't happen as everybody is gonna work on the s20 now. I wish phones were more like computers in which you can use whatever the hell you want on them, idk why carriers have such a issue with it since people will still pay for their services all the same.

Replicatorz said:
I should of checked the model number to see what was available for it before i bought it but i guess i will have to deal unless by chance something is done about it which won't happen as everybody is gonna work on the s20 now. I wish phones were more like computers in which you can use whatever the hell you want on them, idk why carriers have such a issue with it since people will still pay for their services all the same.
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The S9 just got root like a month or 2 ago. The S10 and up have greater security measures to overcome, which has been a dead end to people trying to find a root method.
Carriers argue that root "takes away from the user experience." What that means to me is they don't want people who know nothing about how these phones work poking around and messing crap up and then returning the phone or claiming insurance or warranty or whatever. Some phones can be bootloader unlocked via the manufacturer like HTC (they used to offer OEM bootloader unlocks, they may have stopped I don't know). I think the One Plus phones come rooted (not sure though) and I believe the Pixel phone line are easily rooted (again not sure, so don't quote me).

StoneyJSG said:
The S9 just got root like a month or 2 ago. The S10 and up have greater security measures to overcome, which has been a dead end to people trying to find a root method.
Carriers argue that root "takes away from the user experience." What that means to me is they don't want people who know nothing about how these phones work poking around and messing crap up and then returning the phone or claiming insurance or warranty or whatever. Some phones can be bootloader unlocked via the manufacturer like HTC (they used to offer OEM bootloader unlocks, they may have stopped I don't know). I think the One Plus phones come rooted (not sure though) and I believe the Pixel phone line are easily rooted (again not sure, so don't quote me).
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My first smartphone was a HTC One Vx i do believe and that was where i learned to root phones on, then i had a galaxy s6 which i rooted aswell, then a LG Stylo 3 but LG doesn't seem to be friendly to rooting either. I was thinking of getting a HTC u12 instead of the s10 but went with the s10 cause of price, now i wish i would of just got the htc u12, i think htc's are comparable to galaxy's myself, but galaxies are more mainstram choice cause of high quality materials.
Edit: This is most likely bs? https://www.recovery-mode.com/andro...amsung-galaxy-s10-sm-g973u-android-9-pie.html

Replicatorz said:
My first smartphone was a HTC One Vx i do believe and that was where i learned to root phones on, then i had a galaxy s6 which i rooted aswell, then a LG Stylo 3 but LG doesn't seem to be friendly to rooting either. I was thinking of getting a HTC u12 instead of the s10 but went with the s10 cause of price, now i wish i would of just got the htc u12, i think htc's are comparable to galaxy's myself, but galaxies are more mainstram choice cause of high quality materials.
Edit: This is most likely bs? https://www.recovery-mode.com/andro...amsung-galaxy-s10-sm-g973u-android-9-pie.html
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Yeah only the exynos variants can be rooted with the exception of the Hong Kong variant which has a snapdragon and can be rooted. The Sprint 5G version can also be rooted. That link you posted is probably BS given nobody here in the forums in talking about it. It could be real though, but as far as I know the OEM unlock option is either not present on the G973U or is present and just does nothing when activated. Someone else with more knowledge of it might chime in, hopefully they do because now I am curious.

Replicatorz said:
I should of checked the model number to see what was available for it before i bought it but i guess i will have to deal unless by chance something is done about it which won't happen as everybody is gonna work on the s20 now. I wish phones were more like computers in which you can use whatever the hell you want on them, idk why carriers have such a issue with it since people will still pay for their services all the same.
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LOL, or just Googled it. It's pretty old news that's been out since the phone was released.